There is a great to-do currently popular concerning whether or not the Apollo moon missions actually took place or not. There are scads of people claiming foul due to evidence not being real, and scads of others claiming the evidence is true and represents precisely what it claims to.

This thread is going to look at things from an alternative point of view. While all critical thinkers understand that the burden of proof is on the side of those making the claim, there is a certain disagreement as to who is making the claim. In this thread, that will be made clear.

In this thread, we are going to assume that humans vanished from the face of the Earth. Alien archeologists, having studied the languages of our planet and dug through our detrius, have made a stunning conclusion: It is entirely possible that these primitive man-apes may have actually succeded in leaving the planet and landing on the moon.

Here is the challenge: In this thread, I would like to see the Pro-Apollo side present its case, along with supporting evidence, as if we were the alien archeologists trying to present to our skeptical academia that there is credible evidence that the legends of the Apollo moon missions are not merely primitive legends, but an actual occurrance.

Good luck, alien archeologists.

I'm guessing by this time, Nasa has/did? find the magnetic-video-strip they lost?

Couldn't I just take my alien spaceship on a lunar cruise and look for clues on the moon, like when Clementine spotted the perturbations left by the Apollo 15 lunar module?

This subject has been done to death - if you use the search function, all the evidence you need can be found there.

As this thread was started by this forums Forum Leader I suspect he is well aware of how to use the search function and what subjects are present here.

I wasn't suggesting he didn't know how - I suggested that he and anybody else who is interested in this topic should do so.

I actually think this is an awesome idea, I'll prepare my speech for the high council :cool:

Quick clarification, can these Aliens goto the moon and check for the presense of Flag etc?

The spirit of the thread is to present empirical evidence that the Apollo missions factually occurred and can be proven to have occurred, so no, we can't assume aliens will have some futuristic dohickey that can scan the entire surface of the moon and find a tiny little flag.

Think of this as being the address that you are giving the grant committee in order to get funding to conduct a moon and space search.

Actually they wouldn't need any technology that isn't available to us now to image the landing sites. If a modern spy satellite was put into orbit around the moon it would easily photograph all the evidence needed. Even the up coming Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (due for launch in October 2008) may be able to image the Lunar Module decent stage which remained on the moon and served as a launch pad for the ascent stage.

The problem for the aliens would be finding the sites (this would be a problem whether they intend to image from orbit or land). It's a big moon and the six Apollo landing sites are tiny (I'm assuming that mankind has disappeared within the next few years, before man has returned to the moon). We know where man landed, they might not. How easy it would be for them to find the landing sites would depend on how much evidence is left on Earth. If these alien archeologists discover the remains of a human library they will be able to find books which will show them where man landed. That would greatly reduce the time taken to find the landing sites.

Counsel members, priests, fellow scientists,

I'm here today to present to you an eccentric idea. We've recently started digging around the country previously known as 'America', and we've recovered some unbelievable data, that we felt we had to present to this counsel. Ladies and gentleman, Zoggs and Ziggers, I hereby present to you evidence that the puny race known as man, has landed on it's satellite the moon! Now now, ladies and gentleman. No need for the commotion, we've actually discovered quite a lot of proof that suggests this actually happened. The bulk of information was found at numerous buildings, seemingly owned by a company called 'NASA'. We have recovered binary data of a primitive device known as a hard drive, and discovered quite a few amazing facts. In the century known as the 20th century on earth, at 2:56 UTC on July 21st 1969 a biped known as Neil Armstrong stepped on the moon. This mission was part of a number of other missions collectively named Apollo. The first mission to land was called Apollo 11. We found stored in archives and within the data device known as the internet, quite a lot of material proving this to be so. Firstly we have recovered huge image libraries of the astronauts on the surface of the moon, we are talking literally thousands upon thousands of images of humans on the moon. We recovered the mission audio for each mission, spanning into tens of thousands of minutes worth of audio as they Apollo missions flew the trans lunar trajectory to the moon, and back. This ties in perfectly with all the typed mission audio, written word for word in the logs which are publicly available. We also uncovered:

# Technical Debriefings
# Mission Reports
# Preliminary Science Reports
# Press Kits
# EASEP Press Backgrounder
# Crew Training Summaries
# LM-5 Structures
# Flight Plans
# Flight Mission Rules
# Final Lunar Surface Procedures
# LM Checklists
# Sample Catalog
# Neil Armstrong 2001 Oral History Interview
# Congressional Addresses, 16 September 1969
# Hasselblad Cameras
# Bill Wood - Apollo TV Essay
# TV and Communications Documentation
# Photography Reference
# LM Descent and Ascent Trajectories
# Descent and Ascent Photomaps
# Tec. and PAO Transcripts

All of these it seems were available publicly, and accessible from any biped who had access to the internet. Also to bear in mind that all of this evidence is available for each of the six missions that landed on the moon. Intricate training plans, blueprints, detailed checklists and flight plans and trajectories. Terrabytes of information available suggesting that this primitive race landed on the moon, and terrabytes of information for the ones that didn't. We also uncovered from the agency called NASA a numerous amount of rocks which appear to have come from the Lunar surface, the command module, replicas of the lunar excursion module, built to perfect scale. While digging around America we also found information regarding these missions from countless many sub contractors, contractors and loads more from people who developed parts for these missions. In short ladies and gentleman, I'm perfectly convinced men walked on the moon.

ALL HAIL ZOGG

**Assumes role of Grand High Muckety Muck**

You make bold claims. Before we bother the great Zogg, Keeper of the Pursestrings, Defender of the Budget, we surely must have something a bit more tangible than your conviction on the matter, ferverant as it may be.

You have much documentations here, but truly, the man-apes are reknowing for creating incredibly complex mythologies. We have stories of young children riding magical trains to schools of witchcraft, we have legends of man-ape space truckers encountering Alien parasites that burst from their bellies. We even have silly stories about some white wizard obsessed with controlling the "Internet" you mention with his fascination for jewelry.

What makes any of these documents different?