http://nwo.media.xs2.net/tape/SalemWBAI.mp3

Phone was tapped by Emad Salem while he was talking to the FBI agent John Michael Anticev from the FBI's New York office.

Fast forward to 3:30 seconds....



Now, tell me the government wasn't involved.





Anticev: It's not questionable, it's like a little out of the ordinary.

Salem: Okay. Alright. I don't think it was. If that's what you think guys, fine, but I don't think that because we was start already building the bomb which is went off in the World Trade Center. It was built by supervising supervision from the Bureau and the D.A. and we was all informed about it and we know that the bomb start to be built. By who? By your confidential informant. What a wonderful, great case!

Anticev: Well.

Salem: And then he put his head in the sand and said "Oh, no, no, that's not true, he is son of a b****." [Deep breath.] Okay. It's built with a different way in another place and that's it.

Anticev: No, don't make any rash decisions. I'm just trying to be as honest with you as I can.





BTW, to prove to you John Michael Anticev is the FBI agent, go here...

http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/03/07/moussaoui.trial/

nothing to say eh?


cool...

OK, now what? You want to file your case?

Spoken like a true American..

OK, what do you suggest should be done with this hard proof of yours?
No one really is buying into it, I say keep digging.

I agree

Keep digging........... I for one believe that there is still alot to uncover, when is the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth ?? when the official report tells you so?? Always question the goverment ! It's your right to do so !

When the goverment decides it's not your right to question, then here be the right to bare arms comes into effect.

ugh...

Thats amazing, The guy is talking about building the bomb to blow up the world trade center to the FBI agent and was talking about the FBI and DA supvising it.......

and I'm suppose to keep digging?




What more proof do you want?


I mean will it take the president coming on T.V. and just saying f*** you all. before you will do anything? Or believe ?

Well, it's nothing, a fake, doesn't prove anything.
Why do you think it is only you who is excited about it?

A Fake?


Dude....it was admitted into court....

So, if it was admitted in court, obviously court decided it was nothing.

No, it was dismissed later on due to "reasons of national security"

Says who? The court? So, the court said never mind the government killed 3,000 of our citizen for it was for national security?

This was the first WTC bombing.....not 9/11

OK, same thing court said it's was OK to bomb any establishment for National Security?

no... National security is the excuse always used. Not saying this is real, but If they "decide" it is a risk to National Security It will not be disclosed. Simple as that.

YUP, some things can't be disclosed to the public because of sensitive matters. Like information we have about the enemy that they don't know we have. Or sensitive informations that can harm current operations in combating the threat.
I think that is very understandable, right?

You mean like the way the CIA smuggles in drugs?

Yes, sensitive material that could harm their operations.

CIA smuggles drugs? Where? For profit?

That is very understandable... I am not crazy . I was pointing out that they also abuse the system in some cases.

-Muddy

There are always those who would abuse, not only in the government.
The important thing is to clean up the abuses and make sure the ones who abuse suffers consequence and face punishment.

Yeah....Like thats going to happen.

It's up to the people to demand that from their government, vote for what will bring peace and order. Not for the ones who will bring the most entitlement to you.
Wining in this forum certainly won't get it done.

Uh....


It doesnt matter who you vote for anymore. They all suck.

And why is it only right wing and left wing?

Why not a forward wing?

Its like i choose, give up my money, or give up my mind.... which do i give up hmmm

Well if im democrat, I get told where my money goes, but I can believe and do whatever I want.

But if I go republican, I need to be a certain way and I get to keep my money....

hmmm...

so many choices.

Now we are getting somewhere...

So, lets say that the presidents lose power in some situation... lets say they lose control of the UFO thing. Lets say that the people who were put in charge of keeping it secret decided to start keeping it secret from the elected officials, including the president...

In this case we have no power as we the people...

This is what is being said.
By people in this thread.
That you can't tell the truth.
or you will wind up dead.

bad poem errgg I suck

and no winning in this thread will do nothing except for the individual and his reputation, so don't try to "win." Be honest and everyone wins.

-Muddy

Whoever told you that life is perfect? You can't have everything you want in any political party. So, you just do with which you think is better.

Who are these people you are so worried about keeping secrets??? Like Sandy Berger the former National Security adviser of Clinton caught stealing and destroying documents?
You know of anyone who told the truth and was killed?

I'm just curious.. What's your basis for your opinion that it's a fake?

If you have no reason, then you have no proof that it is a fake. If he supplies you with this audio tape, and you claim it's fake, in my opinion it is now on you to prove it is fake.



I can't say it's real... But I can't say it's fake either.

Isn't it a bit more complex than that? I mean its just an excerpt of a one sided conversation.
By that I mean One party knew it was being recorded and could have consciously painted a picture that could be interpreted one way. From what I've read he and the FBI were having conflicts at the time. The plan was to offer fake explosives as real. The guy is a dirtbag working for whoever gives him the best deal. He could have actually been working for the terrorists and actually used real explosives. The FBI could be set up with a contrived tape and he covers his ass from both sides.
I have no idea if this is accurate but its more than likely its not as clearcut as he wants it to look.
Why was he making the recording? What was his motivation?

Simple, it's out in the open this so called proof of government involvement and no one is really buying into it or paying any attention to it.
Means it has no credibility.

Proof - HERE

You call this proof??? A video made to convince people of a foul play a proof? A video proof does not need a commentator or a back ground music. This is clearly manufactured and the facts are selectively sorted and not presented fully to fit the objective.
It works though, look at all those who get suckered into it.

LOL what the f***? If you bothered to take your head out of your arse and watch the film or did some decent research, you'd realise there's alot of un answered question's! Can you explain them?

Dylan Avery (the maker of Loose Change), and his cohorts did almost no research whatsoever in making that film. He selectively ignored the testimony and expertise of eye witnesses, structural engineers, and controlled demolition experts and presented the most outlandish opinions of noted conspiracy theorists as fact.

Do a little research of your own.

LOL alright. That video is quite funny I agree.

Uh no, it just means that no one cares if the government is corrupt because people are selfish whores who like to bathe in their own ego and life.

They don't care about other people but themselves.

I talked to alot of people about 9/11 and they say "I just dont care about what happened, if the government did do it, oh well, so what"

Alot of people don't care if the government kills its own people anyways, as long as it doesn't effect them personally.

I don't know where you from, but in the civilization I'm in there is no such talk.
Tell me, why did you end up being surrounded by such character???

what eye witnesses?? please elaborate-- the truth may be more than you can handle but it has been conclusively established that prof of physics steven jones from BYU(brigham young university) isolated specific signature residues of "thermate" in the debri from wtc 1,2 AND 7-- president bush absolutely positively signed executive order w199i ordering the fbi to stop investigating alqueda under threat of arrest and the PNAC group consisting of cheney,rumsfeld,rove,wolfowitz,kristol and others clearly set their sights on the natural gas and oil reserves in the middle east-- who can deny what happened to the price of gas just as soon as they gained control??? the video of bldg 7 collapsing is going NOWHERE pal! we will forever be able to view it and gauge the reactions of those in denial as opposed to those activiely perpetrating a cover-up after being given all the facts and expose the latter for the utter lack of common sense and rational thought----
here is the best compilation of eye witness testimony from experts that are clear in their intention on clarifying exactly what they were describing--
9/11 REVISITED by DUSTIN MUGFORD-- i cant say it enogh but great work DM-- if you still frequent these pages
9/11 REVISITED by Dustin Mugford

Well, the several eyewitnesses who saw an airliner fly into the Pentagon immediately come to mind. He didn't bother trying to interview them.



Yeah, I think I can handle that truth.

How would a professor of physics know what a thermate signature looks like? You say this as though this is his expertise - it is not. He indicated that the remnants of sulfur indicated thermate. You know what else it indicates? Drywall.



Really? Please show evidence of this. And either way, how does this damn the government in 9/11?



This has nothing to do with 9/11.



Yipes.

While you're at it, why don't you take a look at images of the south side of WTC7 before it collapsed, in which you can see virtually every floor is engulfed. I could provide a link, but I want to see just how much of a "truth"seeker you really are. Go out and seek that actual truth, don't just go to sites that show the north side of WTC7 and half of the story.

And while you're doing that, check out the extensively documented conversations between the firefighters concerning WTC7 that day. Check out how they all knew it was going to come down. Go ahead, check that out.



I can't get to Google Video from here - is there a transcipt anywhere? I'd like to see it.

click the link or type google.com in your browser and search 9/11 revisited-- he never stated that he determined the thermate hypothesis through "visual" anaylsis-- if you would takethe time to read his paper he clearly details the process of testing the "samples" from the debri of the wtc-- just google "pnac rebuilding americas defenses new pearl harbor" and you will find all the information you need to determine the truth in our middle east "occupation"-- just look at the position of our bases in afgh in relation to the natural gas pipeline worth an est 7 "T"rillion dollars that the taliban opposed yet we built anyway as soon as we invaded-- youll never find the google video,or dmit it at least,due to the wealth of truth it contains as well as the common sense it invokes--9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB!!

Thanks for showing how to get to the video, again.



1. I didn't say that either.

2. Show me a peer-reviewed paper of Professor Jones', and I'll take the time to read it. Show me a paper that any structural engineer supports, and I'll gladly take a look.



So you're saying that these supremely intelligent people decided to publicly display their intentions? That's ridiculous. Truth is, "Rebuilding America's Defenses" was a document which state the need for more defense spending, which had been slashed during the Clinton years.



This doesn't come close to proving 9/11 was an inside job.



Common sense, huh? You mean like the common sense it would've taken to not publish the PNAC's agenda online?



We get it. Actually, it wasn't.



Care to address my commentary on WTC7? You seemed to excited about it before, but now you drop it? I thought WTC7 was "the smoking gun"???