Chokmah
Aug 14 2006, 01:54 PM
Everyone knows hot dogs aren't exactly healthy for you, but in a new study chemists find they may contain DNA-mutating compounds that might boost one's risk for cancer.
Scientists note there is an up to 240-fold variation in levels of these chemicals across different brands.
"One could try and find out what the difference in manufacturing techniques are between the brands, and if it's decided these things are a hazard, one could change the manufacturing methods," researcher Sidney Mirvish, a chemist at the University of Nebraska Medical Center in Omaha, told LiveScience.
Mirvish and his colleagues examined hot dogs because past research had linked them with colon cancer. Hot dogs are preserved with sodium nitrite, which can help form chemicals known as N-nitroso compounds, most of which cause cancer in lab animals.
Extracts from hot dogs bought from the supermarket, when mixed with nitrites, resulted in what appeared to be these DNA-mutating compounds. When added to Salmonella bacteria, hot dog extracts treated with nitrites doubled to quadrupled their normal DNA mutation levels. Triggering DNA mutations in the gut might boost the risk for colon cancer, the researchers explained.
"I won't say you shouldn't eat hot dogs," Mirvish said. Future research will feed hot dog meat to mice to see if they develop colon cancer or precancerous conditions, he explained.
James Hodges, president of the American Meat Institute Foundation in Washington, noted this study is "a preliminary report that the author concedes requires further investigation. The carcinogenic risk to humans of the compounds studied has not been determined."
The possible hazard presented here is not just limited to hot dogs. Salted dried fish and seasonings such as soy sauce may contain similar levels of these chemicals, Mirvish said. hmm... I was watching 'bulletproof monk' last night, and hotdogs were used as an enlightenment proverb
Saint
Aug 14 2006, 01:59 PM
Ag!! What next - it's always something or the other with these scientists. I think they're creating a world where we live in fearof everything we do, everything we eat, everything we drink. It's pathetic, really.
But we swallow it. Excuse the pun.
Celumnaz
Aug 14 2006, 03:20 PM
a radio entertainer I listen to has a routine called "Bad Living Magazine"... this would go perfect in it hehe...
Cause... Peanut Butter causes cancer.
I don't have a link, but typing off of what I'm hearing:
QUOTE
*calm music in background*
Concerned Man: "I rode with my kid in the front seat to soccer practice. Does that make me a bad parent?"
Announcer: Yes, it does. And you would have known if you read "Bad Living Magazine".
Concerned Man: "There's a new study that shows that people who eat red meat from cows that inhaled second hand smoke are 3% more likely to get sick, than people who don't! Should I be scared?"
Announcer: Yes. And that's the point of Bad Living.
When you subscribe to Bad Living, you'll be reminded of all the ways you put yourself and those around you in danger every day.
Concerned Man: "I didn't realize that my SUV was endangering other drivers And destroying the ozone hole And increasing our chances of getting hit by a giant asteroid. But since I subscribed to Bad Living, I'm afraid of almost everything and I want everyone around me to be too!"
Announcer: Call Now and receive the Bonus Pamphlet: The Top 15 Things You Should Be Terrified About
Concerned Man: "I called and I'm glad I did. The first issue told me how to get rid of all the sharp objects in my home."
Announcer: Call 1-800-PARANOID and receive our latest issue of Bad Living Magazine, featuring 10 reasons you should be afraid to leave your home.
Concerned Man: "Thanks Bad Living!"
Mr. Fahrenheit
Aug 14 2006, 11:40 PM
I
knew it!
I hate the nasty things.
RamboIII
Aug 14 2006, 11:41 PM
I feel bad for the guys in the hot dog eating competition!
AtlantisRises
Aug 15 2006, 04:07 AM
Now days everything is alleged to cause cancer, Hotdogs, burgers, greens, sleep.
I think that scientists have to much time on their hands and are just making stuff up.
Probably have a giant wheel which they use to decide what stupid thing they will say today
Jok3r
Aug 15 2006, 04:29 AM
Damn and I'm a fan of hot dogs. No more hotdogs for me....anymore. Ok maybe one every once in a while. lol.
distortedpandy
Aug 15 2006, 01:28 PM
...
Glad I don't eat them.
zukie&jim
Aug 15 2006, 01:40 PM
hot-dogs the best catfish bait ever--right along with ivory-soap--lol
Ned Tunacao
Aug 16 2006, 01:05 AM
Plah...everything causes cancer.
If I ever get cancer I'm gonna take like 30+ Omega-3 pills and eat broccoli and cauiliflower and prune juice and all other vegetables and fruits in a juicy cocktail! I ain't afraid of no +3% cancer chance! Bring it on!
Dezmond
Aug 16 2006, 04:09 PM
...And it only counts for people who daily eat hot dogs.
Kryso
Aug 16 2006, 06:52 PM
When I was living in Mexico, the Government was always telling this to pregnant women, to not eat Hotdogs because they are bad for them while carrying!
starlitkate
Aug 17 2006, 03:40 PM
Ummm I just went grocery shopping and bought like 4 packs of hotdogs.

I don't think I want to eat any of them now. I know Marc won't if I tell him this.
justcallmefox
Aug 17 2006, 03:46 PM
Considering the 101 parts of animal that are in hot dogs, this really doesn't surprise me.
LostLittleGirl
Aug 17 2006, 07:23 PM
Do we even know what 101 animal parts are in hot dogs?
justcallmefox
Aug 17 2006, 07:44 PM
Nope- that's my point.
coldethyl
Aug 17 2006, 08:43 PM
I just buy the all beef kind. We all gotta go sometime. I'm going to go with cheese in my mouth.
AtlantisRises
Aug 18 2006, 03:28 AM
QUOTE(justcallmefox @ Aug 18 2006, 01:16 AM) [snapback]1311553[/snapback]
Considering the 101 parts of animal that are in hot dogs, this really doesn't surprise me.

QUOTE(LostLittleGirl @ Aug 18 2006, 04:53 AM) [snapback]1311845[/snapback]
Do we even know what 101 animal parts are in hot dogs?
Or the type of animal, because i never have seen beef that is as pink as a hotdog.
Personally i think its mashed up old people, but that is just a thought
RamboIII
Aug 18 2006, 03:33 AM
But hot dogs are the most American food you can find! Hmm... I better move to Canada and eat all that bacon they stole from us!
Shivel
Aug 18 2006, 03:53 AM
QUOTE(Dezmond @ Aug 16 2006, 12:09 PM) [snapback]1310408[/snapback]
...And it only counts for people who daily eat hot dogs.
Where did you hear this information?
riotboy555
Aug 18 2006, 03:58 AM
What doesn't cause cancer these days?
frogfish
Aug 18 2006, 06:53 PM

Cancer in a bun
coldethyl
Aug 18 2006, 07:33 PM
QUOTE(riotboy555 @ Aug 17 2006, 10:58 PM) [snapback]1312485[/snapback]
What doesn't cause cancer these days?
Sending me all your money.
Col. Kurtz
Sep 19 2006, 10:22 AM
I can see it now,,man gets colon cancer and sues oscar myer. What a joke next they`ll make it into a disease something like rectal hotdog syndrome,,which will fit right in with the other '' new '' diseases like restless leg syndrome or acid reflux disease. just another scare tactic ,,imo
angrycrustacean
Sep 19 2006, 09:22 PM
QUOTE(Col. Kurtz @ Sep 19 2006, 04:22 AM) [snapback]1356175[/snapback]
What a joke next they`ll make it into a disease something like rectal hotdog syndrome,,which will fit right in with the other '' new '' diseases like restless leg syndrome or acid reflux disease.
But those are actual occurrences. Most of my family (myself excluded) suffers from the restless legs thing, and I know someone who has recurring acid reflux. It's not like people just make these things up for the hell of it, and furthermore, restless legs and acid reflux are pretty minor compared to cancer.

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just another scare tactic ,,imo

A scare tactic by whom? The evil hamburger conglomerate? There's so much nasty stuff in hot dogs (although I don't agree with the 101 parts thing), that they're unhealthy for you to begin with, and everyone knows that. This study is just further proof that they are unhealthy.
Col. Kurtz
Sep 19 2006, 10:20 PM
Can you explain exactly how your family contracted RLS? Did you ever think that maybe your friend with recurring acid reflux might just have bad heartburn and that a simple change in diet would cure it? Tell him to lay off the pizza and sausage
angrycrustacean
Sep 19 2006, 10:28 PM
QUOTE(Col. Kurtz @ Sep 19 2006, 04:20 PM) [snapback]1357123[/snapback]
Can you explain exactly how your family contracted RLS?
They didn't "contract" it, it was just a symptom they described independantly on separate occasions. When the restless legs syndrome became more widely known and documented (largely after the Seinfeld episode), they were quite shocked to find out it was common, or even had a name. In this case they were describing the symptoms before they could possibly have known it was a syndrome.
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Did you ever think that maybe your friend with recurring acid reflux might just have bad heartburn and that a simple change in diet would cure it? Tell him to lay off the pizza and sausage

How is that relevant? Clearly some people are more prone to acid reflux. I can eat all the pizza and sausage I want and I never get heartburn. Clearly certain people have a predilection to acid reflux, which I think justifies claims of it being a disease.
Col. Kurtz
Sep 19 2006, 10:47 PM
Im sure the makers of Prilosec love your friend. And whats your take on penile erectile dysfunction? is it a disease or is just a condition that some men get with age?
RollingThunder06
Sep 20 2006, 03:08 AM
After years of hearing more and more things causing cancer, it can become a joke. The message maybe real but the effects after awhile are laughable.
coldethyl
Sep 20 2006, 09:12 PM
QUOTE(Col. Kurtz @ Sep 19 2006, 05:47 PM) [snapback]1357175[/snapback]
Im sure the makers of Prilosec love your friend. And whats your take on penile erectile dysfunction? is it a disease or is just a condition that some men get with age?
Usually there's more involved than just age.
I think you're looking for the conspiracies forums....
Annointer
Sep 29 2006, 04:27 AM
My dad who's a health nut has always warned about eating hot dogs. And it's actually been years since i've had one.
War-Junkie
Sep 29 2006, 08:24 PM
i dont really care when you die u die as a matter of fact im having one now and im gunna put bacon and other fixns on it.
coldethyl
Sep 29 2006, 09:25 PM
If I were to be told tomorrow that bacon causes cancer I'd go out with a strip hanging out of my mouth.
Bacon tastes good.
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