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Henzwang
For sure mutations like the X-Men would be near impossible without very very advanced technology, but what about other mutants? What about from nuclear testing, like in the hills have eyes?
MySummerJob
QUOTE(Henzwang @ Aug 15 2006, 08:40 PM) [snapback]1309291[/snapback]

For sure mutations like the X-Men would be near impossible without very very advanced technology, but what about other mutants? What about from nuclear testing, like in the hills have eyes?

its already happening >_> except with new born babies hmm.gif
Daniella2310
QUOTE(Henzwang @ Aug 15 2006, 03:40 PM) [snapback]1309291[/snapback]

For sure mutations like the X-Men would be near impossible without very very advanced technology, but what about other mutants? What about from nuclear testing, like in the hills have eyes?

Ahhhh I just saw that movie yesterday! It was HORRIBLE! I also wonder if there are places here in the US were people like the ones in the movie exist. no.gif
luminousphoenix
Forget about the nuclear testing theory, we already know what exposure to nuclear radiation does to people. Read up on the people of Nagasaki and Hiroshima Japan after the effects of the WWII bombings. I don't think you'll see any kind of superhuman mutations there, just human suffering and pain. What those people went thru was just beyond horrible.. no.gif
its me
there is things like that


ill post some photos




It is not appropriate to put disturbing images like what you just added so that they pop up when people visit the thread. If appropriate to the topic and within the forum rules you can link to them, but do not just insert the images to your posts.
Henzwang
i've been to a museum in china where they had a whole bunch of mutated fetuses and stuff. it was kind of like the mutter museum in philly.
Lizard_King
I think that its completely possible that mutants are possible but since radiation tends to destroy and not ALTER genes so it would (at least in my opinion) take several generations to get a mutation and even then I really dont think that it would truely be anything BENEFICIAL and not life threatening to the Mutant itself. But it IS possible.
LizFL
mutants are very possible. But radiation, random genetic weirdness etc, does not give super powers. sorry.
(31oha2a121)
we are already mutating, theres theories that we will be completely bald by 2100, as we simply do not need hair, depending on what region of the world youre on.
coldethyl
QUOTE((31oha2a121) @ Aug 16 2006, 01:21 PM) [snapback]1310575[/snapback]

we are already mutating, theres theories that we will be completely bald by 2100, as we simply do not need hair, depending on what region of the world youre on.


Nooo!! I don't want to lose my beautiful, beautiful hair! crying.gif
Daniella2310
QUOTE((31oha2a121) @ Aug 16 2006, 02:21 PM) [snapback]1310575[/snapback]

we are already mutating, theres theories that we will be completely bald by 2100, as we simply do not need hair, depending on what region of the world youre on.

Why it depends in the region? Like, I would imagine if we are going to lose hair, the first ones would be the people with thin hair.
In that case I'm save, cause my hair is thick thumbsup.gif
MySummerJob
QUOTE(Daniella2310 @ Aug 17 2006, 10:16 PM) [snapback]1311995[/snapback]

Why it depends in the region? Like, I would imagine if we are going to lose hair, the first ones would be the people with thin hair.
In that case I'm save, cause my hair is thick thumbsup.gif

mine too mine is so thick and curly even though its supposed to be wavy >_>
LizFL
QUOTE((31oha2a121) @ Aug 16 2006, 01:21 PM) [snapback]1310575[/snapback]

we are already mutating, theres theories that we will be completely bald by 2100, as we simply do not need hair, depending on what region of the world youre on.



but we lose 80% of our body heat through our heads... doesnt hair help with that?
Pappzy
Ripley's niagra falls,canada has loads of mutant animals. grin2.gif
coldethyl
I think it would have more to do with climate. If you live in a hotter climate your hair will be first to go because you won't need it as much as someone in a colder climate. That makes the most sense.
(31oha2a121)
QUOTE(Frank'n'Liz @ Aug 18 2006, 09:58 AM) [snapback]1312628[/snapback]

but we lose 80% of our body heat through our heads... doesnt hair help with that?


thats the point, becasue of global warming ad becasue we dont live outside, we re losing our hair, we simply have noi use for it.
Raptor
QUOTE((31oha2a121) @ Aug 18 2006, 07:52 PM) [snapback]1313311[/snapback]

thats the point, becasue of global warming ad becasue we dont live outside, we re losing our hair, we simply have noi use for it.


There's also no need to lose it.
coldethyl
You guys are freaking me out with the hair thing. My skull is funky I must keep my hair!!!
Daniella2310
Then if we lose the hair in our head, would that also mean we would lose our eyebrows and eyelashes? What's next, nails?? :'( We'll end up looking like an et! alien.gif
Raptor
QUOTE(Daniella2310 @ Aug 18 2006, 10:05 PM) [snapback]1313493[/snapback]

Then if we lose the hair in our head, would that also mean we would lose our eyebrows and eyelashes? What's next, nails?? :'( We'll end up looking like an et! alien.gif


I doubt that we will lose hair from our scalp at all. Eyebrows and eyelashes are useful for shading the eyes and preventing dirt from entering. Not that that matters really anyway now, as long as humans remain as advanced as we are now, evolution will continue to be guided by culture much moreso than survival of the fittest.
(31oha2a121)
actually nails are the next thing to go.
Raptor
QUOTE((31oha2a121) @ Aug 18 2006, 10:27 PM) [snapback]1313520[/snapback]

actually nails are the next thing to go.


I doubt that.
Daniella2310
QUOTE((31oha2a121) @ Aug 18 2006, 05:27 PM) [snapback]1313520[/snapback]

actually nails are the next thing to go.

nooooooooo!

Yeah Raptor, that was my point. Like you know how when something evolves, it just "sheds away" what they don't need anymore? Well now we don't need eyelashes to prevent dirt from getting into our eyes because everything is paved plus there are sunglasses, and then we don't need nails anymore either because we don't eat with our hands anymore, and so on no.gif
Raptor
QUOTE(Daniella2310 @ Aug 19 2006, 06:30 PM) [snapback]1314313[/snapback]

nooooooooo!

Yeah Raptor, that was my point. Like you know how when something evolves, it just "sheds away" what they don't need anymore?


That's pretty much right; but remember that different things are 'shedded away' once they offer no benefit because only the organisms with the best suited features survive, (and having something which isn't needed won't help them to survive).

However with humans, because of our technology, almost every single human will live to pass on their genes to the next generation, meaning unnecessary features such as fingernails and hair won't be lost, because having fingernails or not isn't really going to effect the chances of having children.

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Silentom
I figure in the future we will eventually evolve into something more along the lines of how the world has changed! But how we evolve or what we evolve into will be pretty interesting!
The Dark Knight 77
you know the government is making super soldiers, they are using advanced tech, perfecting armor and weapons and also studying on how to perfect the genetic make up of the human body, much stronger, faster, quicker reflexes, perfect vision and sight, intense training in different combat skills and different levels of mind development and use, remote viewing usually a job of military psychics, and cloning and gene studies are helping. Looks like comic book captain america might not be so far away from reality. Theres alot going on we dont know about, i mean people were never so strong and muscular before steroids came out, it gave an incredible boost of strength to weight lifters and also added a freakishly comic book superhero look to them, that type of body was never able to acheive before roids came out, dont get me wrong you could get huge without them also depending on how your genes are, people are built different than others, but steroids gives everyone that uses and abuses them a major change, so if science brought about steroids which adds strength and speed for athletes or anyone who wants to use them, then the whole idea of the government perfecting soldiers and bodies for war alongw ith top of the line tech especially now that terrorism is out and wars dont seem like they are going to be stoping any time soon, i believe that we arent far away from mutated super humans, could be 20 years 40 years or maybe more i dont know how long, but im sure it wont be too long before science and technology come up with a different breed of human soldiers.
Moro
QUOTE(The Dark Knight 77 @ Aug 19 2006, 04:13 PM) [snapback]1314421[/snapback]

you know the government is making super soldiers, they are using advanced tech, perfecting armor and weapons and also studying on how to perfect the genetic make up of the human body, much stronger, faster, quicker reflexes, perfect vision and sight, intense training in different combat skills and different levels of mind development and use, remote viewing usually a job of military psychics, and cloning and gene studies are helping. Looks like comic book captain america might not be so far away from reality. Theres alot going on we dont know about, i mean people were never so strong and muscular before steroids came out, it gave an incredible boost of strength to weight lifters and also added a freakishly comic book superhero look to them, that type of body was never able to acheive before roids came out, dont get me wrong you could get huge without them also depending on how your genes are, people are built different than others, but steroids gives everyone that uses and abuses them a major change, so if science brought about steroids which adds strength and speed for athletes or anyone who wants to use them, then the whole idea of the government perfecting soldiers and bodies for war alongw ith top of the line tech especially now that terrorism is out and wars dont seem like they are going to be stoping any time soon, i believe that we arent far away from mutated super humans, could be 20 years 40 years or maybe more i dont know how long, but im sure it wont be too long before science and technology come up with a different breed of human soldiers.


Very interesting insight! And i am sur that this could be very possible with the technology we have today! I will have to agree with you on this!
coldethyl
QUOTE(Raptor X7 @ Aug 19 2006, 12:49 PM) [snapback]1314332[/snapback]

However with humans, because of our technology, almost every single human will live to pass on their genes to the next generation, meaning unnecessary features such as fingernails and hair won't be lost, because having fingernails or not isn't really going to effect the chances of having children.


thumbsup.gif *wipes brow in relief*
boorite
Humans are evolving into this:

user posted image

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coldethyl
QUOTE(boorite @ Aug 21 2006, 12:20 PM) [snapback]1316266[/snapback]

Humans are evolving into this:

user posted image

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blink.gif w00t.gif

I want my momeeeee!!!
Kaknelson
One of my old friends was a mutant.

He was Polish, and moved to Canada at a age of 8. He was also born in 1986, the year Chernobyl exploded and polluted for miles. His family told me that a virus went around and, hence, sickened mothers whom were pregant with a child. He has a scar on both of his ears in the exact same spot. And, he always got a redface if we were kickin' it with our friends, and he got asked what superpowers he has because of it. He denied having any.

He was always a little different. laugh.gif

It's all good though, judge not.

I tried researching it, but with little luck. If anyone has any details on this, tell me grin2.gif.


Chernobyl
Iceman15
well in my experience i have no upper or lower wisdom teeth is that a mutation or merely evoultion taking place?
Silentom
Some people are born with tails is that evolution or are some of us actually regessing?
Raptor
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well in my experience i have no upper or lower wisdom teeth is that a mutation or merely evoultion taking place?


Just chance, due to the genetics of your parents. Some people have wisdom teeth and some don't.

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Some people are born with tails is that evolution or are some of us actually regessing?


Neither. I don't know for sure but I'd guess that it's also just down to having the right combination of genes.
Silentom
Yeah I was just teasing actually!
It is the same genes that give you your eye color hair color height Etc. it just depends on the parents!
Raptor
QUOTE(§ileиtoм @ Aug 23 2006, 10:49 PM) [snapback]1319156[/snapback]

Yeah I was just teasing actually!
It is the same genes that give you your eye color hair color height Etc. it just depends on the parents!


My bad, it's hard to tell from just text. tongue.gif

Oh, and welcome to the forum. I like your signature. thumbsup.gif
frogfish
Mutations are always happening. SNP (single-nucleotide polymorphisms) are one of the driving forces of evolution...But, a SNP alone does nothing thumbsup.gif
Silentom
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Oh, and welcome to the forum. I like your signature.


Thanks Raptor! thumbsup.gif

But yeah evolution has to occur or we wouldnt be what we are today!
frogfish
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Some people are born with tails is that evolution or are some of us actually regessing

That is just a genetic disorder...no evolution.

Evolution cannot regress. It is constantly moving forward.
(31oha2a121)
QUOTE(The Dark Knight 77 @ Aug 19 2006, 09:13 PM) [snapback]1314421[/snapback]

you know the government is making super soldiers, they are using advanced tech, perfecting armor and weapons and also studying on how to perfect the genetic make up of the human body, much stronger, faster, quicker reflexes, perfect vision and sight, intense training in different combat skills and different levels of mind development and use, remote viewing usually a job of military psychics, and cloning and gene studies are helping. Looks like comic book captain america might not be so far away from reality. Theres alot going on we dont know about, i mean people were never so strong and muscular before steroids came out, it gave an incredible boost of strength to weight lifters and also added a freakishly comic book superhero look to them, that type of body was never able to acheive before roids came out, dont get me wrong you could get huge without them also depending on how your genes are, people are built different than others, but steroids gives everyone that uses and abuses them a major change, so if science brought about steroids which adds strength and speed for athletes or anyone who wants to use them, then the whole idea of the government perfecting soldiers and bodies for war alongw ith top of the line tech especially now that terrorism is out and wars dont seem like they are going to be stoping any time soon, i believe that we arent far away from mutated super humans, could be 20 years 40 years or maybe more i dont know how long, but im sure it wont be too long before science and technology come up with a different breed of human soldiers.


in china they give pilots a drug, like steroids that actually has chemical formulea typical of cocaine, before they go out and fly. its meant to make theyre senses heightened, and the pilots report it 'slows down time' before their eyes.

Raptor, what ive said isnt true but they are thesis, from highly acclaimed scientists, instead of simply assuming im wrong, its up to YOU to go on the internet and find out, i cant be bothered to type all the technical mumbo jumbo here.
Raptor
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Raptor, what ive said isnt true but they are thesis, from highly acclaimed scientists, instead of simply assuming im wrong, its up to YOU to go on the internet and find out, i cant be bothered to type all the technical mumbo jumbo here.


I've read articles on it before, all of them have been based on the premise that our evolution would continue to be guided by survival of the fittest, which simply doesn't apply to humans as it once did.
boorite
QUOTE(Raptor X7 @ Aug 24 2006, 11:44 AM) [snapback]1319918[/snapback]

I've read articles on it before, all of them have been based on the premise that our evolution would continue to be guided by survival of the fittest, which simply doesn't apply to humans as it once did.


If any heritable trait in a current human population increases or decreases Reproductive Success (RS), then the distribution of variation in that trait is changing in that population, and thus we can say that selection is occurring and the population is evolving.

Daniella2310
QUOTE(Raptor X7 @ Aug 24 2006, 07:44 AM) [snapback]1319918[/snapback]

I've read articles on it before, all of them have been based on the premise that our evolution would continue to be guided by survival of the fittest, which simply doesn't apply to humans as it once did.

Well yeh I think that that's the case because "survival of the fittest' was once seen as the people/animals that were the "fittest" , and because of this, they could survive, but now with humans is more like "whoever is more intelligent can survive" yes.gif it's not about body and resistence anymore.
I know this sentence's grammar SUCKS, but I'm too tired, and after 9pm my brain doesn't work too well anymore
frogfish
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whoever is more intelligent can survive" it's not about body and resistence anymore.

That's still natural selection...If humans were wild...The weak and the dumb would die out before they could have kids...Nowadays...anyone can have kids.
Raptor
QUOTE(boorite @ Aug 24 2006, 06:38 PM) [snapback]1320275[/snapback]

If any heritable trait in a current human population increases or decreases Reproductive Success (RS), then the distribution of variation in that trait is changing in that population, and thus we can say that selection is occurring and the population is evolving.


Right, but the size of a persons fingernails will have an extremely insignificant effect on their RS, so there's no reason why we should lose our fingernails.
frogfish
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Right, but the size of a persons fingernails will have an extremely insignificant effect on their RS, so there's no reason why we should lose our fingernails.

Or our hair..
Copyright
i think there are many mutants among us.... but they are being covered up by the government.
Raptor
^What makes you believe that?
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(Copyright @ Aug 25 2006, 04:28 PM) [snapback]1322108[/snapback]

i think there are many mutants among us.... but they are being covered up by the government.

It would make life more interesting, but no. Comic book culture has influenced(not on purpose) the youth to believe in things that are not real.
ivytheplant
A mutant:
user posted image

Evolution doesn't mean organisms get better and shoot lasers from their eyes, it means they are more adapted to survive in their environment.

I hope fingernails don't go. Who's going to scratch my back?

Also, the remake of The Hills Have Eyes is nice if you like lots of graphic death, mutilation, and rape scenes, but it can't hold a candle to the original. Mainly because the original focused more on the suspense of the family not being alone and being picked off one by one by an enemy they couldn't see. Which is much more terrifying to me.
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