QUOTE(Fasteddy @ Aug 21 2006, 11:09 AM) [snapback]1316166[/snapback]
When you start a post with "Earth to Jackass" anything you write afterwards is going to sound stupid no matter how much you dress it up. Oh, and saying you finished college is a nice touch, as if having a degree makes you a expert on dystopian society and movie acting.
Now lets review the elitist crap you excreted earlier,
"Typical dystopian setting."
Well since the setting of the film is a dystopian soceity the traits of a dystopian soceity are going to be present. If the traits of the soceity were too far from that what a dystopian soceity is then it wouldnt be one therefore it wouldnt be a typical, it would be something diffrent.
"Too much preaching."
What is that supossed to mean?
As in it comments on what happening in the setting of the story. The intent of the film was meant to "preach" on the facets of the soceity in question. Your basically saying that the film is too involved with the film. As if the should talk about something diffrent then whats in the context of the film.
"Natalie Portman still cannot act."
Anybody sounds stupid when the spew out the crap that george lucas calls a script, but in this film "Padme" does a good job in my opinion, watch Garden State also if you still think she is a bad actress. Since neither of us are; actors or directors or producers or anyone who even has the slightest authority to comment on someones acting our opinions on this really doesnt matter to anyone, so you shouldnt have just kept that to yourself.
"Too little action."
Steven Segal wasn't starring in the movie what gave you the impression that it was all going to be action. It was your own assumtion that made you think that there was going to be alot of action, just cause your assumptions were wrong dont call it a bad film. Just from your short writings on this thread I can make the assumption that your an elitist prick face whose mother still washing his clothes. It that true? I dont know, its just an assumption therefore it is meaningless kinda like the assumption you had about there being alot of action in the film.
"Underdeveloped, or just plain dropped, plot lines."
This one just straight makes me wonder, the film tied together so well it was one of the things i liked most about it. Everthing in the film connected almost perfected, what films have you been watching that makes better plot connections or plot development. Really! Tell me a film. And I know you wanna say TOP GUN, again that is my assumption.
"Predictable."
As is the hero dying and saving the day, what did you want to happen V to take off his mask and show himself for what he really is. A horny space alien whos sole purpose in this whole adventure is to bang Natatlie Portman and go back into space in his spaceship cause he is a love um and leave um kinda space alien. See that wasnt predictable at all, but its a really lame story.
"If you've one dystopian novel in your life, nothing really new in this movie."
You know what I liked about this movie, no reading. Why even say novel, its a movie at least compare to another movie with a dystopian soceity like say Equillibrium starring Christian Bale. So now that we are comparing apples and apples i would say that "V" is a way better movie then "Equillibrium" in that "V's" potrayl of the dystopian soceity if more realistic and its take down more epic, again only my opinion. But propably an opinion more worthy then that of an elitist douch nozzle who dresses his writing trying to make himself sound smarter then the people he is writing to so he can in his own mind take an intellectial high ground so he can press his lame critizism of a good film.
Go ahead and flame my post.
No flaming, you took care of that. Just a simple, point-by-point, refuting of what you said.
"Earth to Jackass..." Excuse me for taking offense to someone with no basic understanding of the English language telling me that my opinion is an opinion. There is no universal standard for what makes media quality or not, it is inherently a matter of an individual's opinion.
Anyone who cannot understand that is, well a jackass.
"Elitist crap"? I'm an elitist because I hold my entertainment to my standards?
"Typical dystopian setting.." Typical as in: "Nothing new here."

I fully understand that it will have dystopian elements, but that doesn't mean it has to be a snap-together version of dystopia with no new insight or elements.
"Too much preaching..." Allow me to quote my reply to reincarnated: "
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the dialogue was repetitive, harping on the same theme. It was all summed up with the line: "People should not fear their governments; governments should fear their people." (A sentiment, I whole-heartedly agree with, by the way.) Once stated the point should have been left alone, maybe softly reminded, not repeated until a viewer is tired of hearing it. Hence, the term "preaching."
Say it, leave it, and move on.
I am never in favor of over-presented points.
"Natalie Portman still cannot act..."
Again, a matter of personal opinion. To me, she has always seemed less than talented. Just a pretty face for the 'I like my women built like coffee stirrers' crowd. And I have seen her in movies other than 'Star Wars' and 'V' and she has never exhibited the slightest bit of talent.
"Too little action." Action does not mean explosions and such. From dictionary.com: "The series of events and episodes that form the plot of a story or play." There is too much talking and not enough doing in this movie. It has nothing to do with explosions, or fight scenes, but simple movement. Too much of the movie seems to me a monologue by V.
"Underdeveloped, or just plain dropped, plot lines." This movie could have been so much deeper and richer. It is not a matter of how well it holds together, but another symptom of the problems caused when you spend too much time letting a single character rattle on instead of keeping the dialogue clean and concise.
"Predictable." Why would you assume just the climax was predictable? Most of the movie was easy to call, very few surprises, if any. I would actually have preferred to seen V killed off much earlier in the movie, and Evie left with more of a choice than whether or not to pull a lever. A choice in the manner of whether or not she believes in V's dream enough to keep his word after his death and set up the entire destruction during the climax rather than simply pulling a lever after he had done all the work.
"If you've read one dystopian novel in your life, nothing really new in this movie" No, to compare 'V' to written media is fair since it is based on a printed media, and it copies heavy elements from numerous dystopian novels, namely '1984' and 'Brave New World'.
I even saw a little of "Pink Floyd's The Wall" in there, oddly enough.
"You know what I liked about this movie, no reading."
Pitiful attitude.
And as for the end of your, I really haven't dressed anything up.
I was forced to explain an opinion by those that are so fixated on a movie that they cannot conceive anyone disliking it.
If that seems to be "dressing up" to you, I am sorry, but that says more about you than it does me.
Oh and the mods have been notified about certain elements of your post. Enjoy.