Apearently the British Terrorist plot to blow up airliners over the Atlanitc was totally staged. The leader of the group was linked to the Pakistans ISI intelligence service which is a known CIA front. It's the same old story. Just like the leader of the supposed teror cell in florida turned out to be FBI. In this case the supposed bombers didn't even have passports so how are they going to blow up a plane if they couldn't get on one in the first place. Even the former British Ambassedor to Uzbekistan is saying that this is all propaganda.

Check out the articles I've linked to below

http://www.infowars.com/articles/terror/br..._propaganda.htm
http://www.craigmurray.co.uk/archives/2006...k_terror_p.html
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/08/16/D8JHGUN80.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/terrorism/story/0,,1851078,00.html
http://www.infowars.com/articles/terror/li...ought_cakes.htm

These video clips prove that the terrorist plot in Florida was staged.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8a4z9N3eYc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Su2GaxvRLYE...06patsies%2Ehtm

Here's a clip from MSNBC's Countdown where they talk about how Bush uses terror alerts to cover his ass when he's in political trouble.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=az7yl-UnsQQ

I can't help but think, Every Single One of these plots that have been in the news as kinda big stories have something pointing out that they were staged. Every Singe One so far I can think of.

Does absolutely Nobody out there hate the West enough to try something like these things? Is the world actually a Garden where everyone's peace happy roses? Why else the need for these hoaxes?

Or does it really happen now and then? The Real thing where someone's Really caught that wanted to do something bad? If so, why not use those for the image boost instead of these hoaxes?

Somehow I think things get lost in the translation of English to English... translation of "Idea of the word" from person to person, purposefully and accidentally, and it makes deciphering truth difficult to say the least.

I think it is pretty clear that there are those here in this forum who are clearly on the other side. Could be an effort to put our guards down.

*sigh* another conspiracy thread.....

Mind you I can't stand Bush... but frustrated as hell where everything is leading to and giving GOD a bad name. *sigh*

You know, it really bothers me to read articles like this too found here called:
Banned group tried to rent hall near suspects' homes
http://www.guardian.co.uk/terrorism/story/0,,1851116,00.html

I mean WTH is this world coming to anyway??!! this is BS! I am sooooo sick of it!

Maybe the EASY solution is to BAN religion AROUND THE WORLD all together since some out there twist it to "SUIT THEIR REASONS" for BS! - it just makes me sick!

** Off topic, but I wonder if ever a "Islamic Extremist" ever TRULY had a NDE (near death experiance) .... and did he come back a changed man??

I know of some people that have and they see the world differently - but none that I know were of a Muslim religion.. .. I'm just curious..

Normally, such wild conspiracy-like claims could be easily written off as lunacy. The problem is, Bush-Cheney have been trumping up wafer-thin terrorist threats so often, it now becomes difficult what to believe and what not to beieve.

I wouldn't put it out of the realm of possibility that the Govt. might stage an "event" for political purposes.

Which part of the government, like who?

Don't know, which is why I say its withing the realm of possibility

Cool, this got moved and appropriately as well.

Here is a portion a bit from a video I've been watching called "The Cult of the Suicide Bomber" by Robert Baer (came out in 2005) that I have been "trying to watch" (I grit my teeth and have to often pause the video and walk away to cool off then try to watch it again..)

Baer asks one of them in this video :



The guy being interviewed in this video, (a prisonor for life in an Israeli prison that plotted and killed 21 Israeli citizens) says this: " We didn't say it was suicide. YOU call it suicide. In the language of the occupiers it is called suicide, but in our language it is called Martyrdom."

He went on with more BS on with his so-called twisted belief and reasoning for doing this - it's just all CRAZY NUT JOB religous EXTREMIST BS!

Is this ACTUAL word of "martyrdom" even in the Qu'ran? (I don't recall seeing it in there) Or is it represented as that, but "twisted" as something else to "suit their needs"?!

I guess it bothers me more so because when I watched this video, they bring up VERY young children to think this as well. The children I saw in this video are so YOUNG in this.. no older than 5-8 years old! Some not old enough to read! Jeez!

Seriously, if we can't BAN religion because of the "nut jobs" twisting the religion out there ruining it for the rest of us, then maybe they should be required to TAKE VALIUM or Paxil!

H#ll, I'd even give up the Christmas holiday if the nut jobs out there would give up their SUICIDAL NUT JOB BS!

Personally, I say that THEY can stick their " so-called martyrdom" up their dumb @sses!!

Many now AROUND THE WORLD are even growing numb and very tired of their pointless tactics that really no longer REPRESENTS a "true" CAUSE !! (as it did somewhat back in the 70's and 80's)

But now ALL it does it does is SPREAD HATE even amongst those of the same religion!! They really have NO TRUE CAUSE or reason other than TO JUST HATE others around the world or others that DO not convert to their religion! It is so rediculous!

It's really a no win situation with all this.. btw, IRAN started all this suicide BS into Iraq, then spread to Lebanon, then to Hamas in Gaza.. and Brits now doing this in Israel and in their own country .. my God!

All it's doing now is PISSING off people around the world. People are NOT really scared so much any more - They are just getting really tired and pissed off at this Suicidal idiotic BS!

But going to WAR (as in Bush's idea) is NOT an answer either. All that does it give these stupid nut jobs a so-called "suicidal" reason.. and they just breed more suicidal nut jobs! A continuous cycle of hate and idiotic BS!

I think a MASS dose of valium or paxil for those nut jobs, or banning religion OUTSIDE your own home might be the way to go. LOL

They staged 9/11 for political purposes. If you don't believe me just go to http://www.seeloosechange.com.

They? Who is they?

Haha, that's very interesting. Good find and I'll be sure to read everything in those links. Thanks.

The UK terrorist plot to blow up airliners was a complete hoax. Even the Former British Ambassador to Uzbekistan has come out and said that the whole thing is propaganda. Check it out for youself and tell me what you think

http://www.craigmurray.co.uk/archives/2006...k_terror_p.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/arti...in_page_id=1770
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-2310645,00.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/terrorism/story/0,,1851078,00.html
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/08/16/D8JHGUN80.html
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article1219492.ece


staged terror bust in Florida

The Daily Show Deconstructs Fed’s Miami Terrorists Hype
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8a4z9N3eYc

CNN's Anderson Cooper: Are Sears Tower Terrorists Patsies?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Su2GaxvRLYE...06patsies%2Ehtm


Bush uses Terrorism for political gain

MSNBC Countdown: New Downing Street Memo Bush wanted to stage false flag operations to invade Iraq
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4D5MRkzPYA

MSNBC Countdown Bush uses Terrorism for political gain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=az7yl-UnsQQ

Renaming the title of your moved thread isn't going to work, buddy. You're not fooling anybody that this belongs in here rather then the conspiracy section.

Topics merged.

I'm going to take into account you're a new member, and perhaps you could not find your post. Posting the same topic in a section when its been moved is not only rude, its pointless. Keep it up and you'll hear from us about spamming. No one likes a spammer.
Brush up on the forum rules linked at the top of any forum page.

Not a hoax but a situation conveniently exaggerated by scotland yard to boost its image.

What Does A Terrorist Preparing To Bomb 10 Airliners Do Beforehand? Buys Cakes



Behavior of liquid bomb suspects mirrors 7/7 patsies - no evidence of terror planning

Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet.com | August 16 2006
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/a...06buyscakes.htm


The characters and behavior of the few known liquid bomb suspects are completely inconsistent with any notion that they were preparing to kill themselves in acts of mass terror - mirroring the pre-attack demeanor of the 7/7 patsies.

A CCTV image (top) shows one of the suspects, Tayib Rauf, entering a bulk order supermarket in Birmingham just two hours before anti-terror police swooped in to grab him for his alleged role in a plot to bomb ten transatlantic airliners. What were the tools of terror Rauf was acquiring before his kamikaze death mission? Knives? Peroxide to make the deadly liquid bomb? Cameras to detonate the bombs?

No - he was buying cakes.

"Does this look like the kind of person planning such a plot? He doesn't look like he's about to blow himself up," the owner of the store told the London Mirror.

Rauf chatted with the owner, who said he was more concerned about his father's confectionary business than the fact that he was about to aid in the mid-air slaughter of 3,000 people.

Any two-bit psychologist can tell you that this individual's behavior completely belies the notion that his life is about to come to an end. That in itself exposes the alleged plot for the monumental fraud it is.

Again we hear the same story over and over - they had young families, they were not political, they were active members of the community, everyone liked them whatever race, they loved football, they planned to be doctors, they had future prospects.

Is this an inside joke? MI5 can't even find some angry Muslim loners with criminal records to at least make it appear as if they would have any motive to carry out these attacks? It's such a blatant ruse you wonder if they are doing it on purpose to send a message - that everyone should live in fear of a dawn raid from the terror cops.

The evidence that the London bombers knew they were about to die was so flimsy that newspapers and even the London Metropolitan Police concluded that they were unwitting dupes.



"A Metropolitan Police counter terrorist expert told a seminar that the four terrorists - Mohammad Sidique Khan, 30, Shehzad Tanweer, 22, Germaine Lindsay, 19, and Hasib Hussain, 18, - did not fit the preconceived terrorist profile."

The bombers purchased return tickets, played cricket, ate Big Macs, and had arguments with members of the public in the hours before the attacks took place. They left no suicide notes.

"I've seen the CCTV footage of these people. They do not appear to be on their way to commit any crime at all. The Russell Square bomber [Hasib Hussain] is actually seen going into shops and bumping into people [prior to his attack]," the expert said.

The bombers were described by friends as as four "nice lads", "normal kids who played basketball and kicked a ball around."

A week after the liquid bomb alert and we still have no motive and no evidence that suggests these individuals are anything other than unfortunate fall guys for Blair's latest act of psychological warfare against the British people.

But it's a battle of information that is increasingly swinging away from baseless fearmongering and in favor of the truth. BBC and British newspaper website forums have been swamped with people expressing their incredulousness about the reality of the latest so-called threat.

A London Guardian journalist in an article today highlights how he traveled the country and found widespread skepticism about the real nature of the alert amongst British citizens - with only tourists wholeheartedly trusting the government.

Assertions that the alert is nothing more than political propaganda have also been echoed by commentators and journalists themselves as well as the former British Ambassador to Uzbekistan Craig Murray.

Another example of how CTs twist the truth to imply something which isn't there.

The fact that Rauf bought a cake before he was arrested means zilch. There is no evidence that the plot was intended to take place on the day of the arrests and this fact has been made clear all along. The security restrictions imposed on the day were in case there was anyone else involved in the plot whom the police were unaware of and who, on hearing of the arrests of their colleagues, might decide to initiate the plot there and then.

Persoanlly I think the security clampdown was OTT and more to do with Reid stamping his authority on the country than any real concern over air safety.

The fact the PM remained on holiday is further evidence that this was a routine arrest of terror suspects involved in planning an attack at some futre conjuncture, not the last minute stopping of an imminent attack.

All in all pretty boring. Except for all the air passengers inconvienced by it. Though why anyone would want to fly in the first place beats me

Uzbekistan? where? Oh yeah that Uzbekistan! I always make sure I tune into uzbekistan's tv news channel to get the truth on current affairs.
And a British ambassador made this statement.. well must be true then..
His opinion must've been highly valued for the UK Government to place him as the ambassador to Uzbekistan.

this theory has been in my mind since i heard the news but yesterday i was watching bbc news( wich by the way i would not trust) but yesterday they called it an alleged terriost attack... tells me even they are not sure enough to say it was a terriost attack...
the english and american govt aree ruling us by our fears, and this is exactly how they want to keep us. threats like these.

It seems like a lot of grief to try blowing up planes mid flight,especially with the tight security post 911.
If these "Mad Muslims" want to create "terror" why not just walk into any club and detonate their bombs there?
The whole airport/security thing seems too convenient as it affects most of us and brings up questions of our security and how the Government can alegedly protect us.Please microchip me.
Getting us used to men with guns,telling us what we can carry,where we're going,analysing our identitys,etc.Maybe the likes of Alex Jones is right and Marshal Law is just around the corner?
The Government seems to be doing what the so called Terrorists want anyway - to take away our liberty and freedoms.
Scaring the hell outta us in the process.(is it a coincidence Snakes on Plane is released soon? )

British TV refers to all legal issues as "alleged" until after a trial and conviction(s).

I agree.

TERRORISTS WIN: DEODORANT BANNED FROM AIRPLANES
by Ann Coulter
August 16, 2006

Last week, British authorities arrested 24 members of a terrorist cell plotting to blow up about a dozen U.S.-bound planes simultaneously. As a result of those arrests, we learned:

1) Nothing being done by airport security since 9/11 would prevent a bomb from being brought onto an airplane; and

2) This terrorist plot — like all other terrorist plots — was stopped by ethnic profiling.

Last week marked the first official admission that everything government airport screeners have been doing until now is completely pointless — unless you're an airport security guard with a thing for women's undergarments, in which case it's been highly effective.

As we now know, all the ingredients necessary to blow up an airplane can be carried in small liquid containers. Airport security has not even been looking for small liquid containers. Judging from my personal experience, they seem to have been focusing on finding explosive devices inside women's brassieres.

After five years of submissively complying with bag checks, shoe checks and underwire bra checks, Americans have now been informed that the hell we've been going through at the airports (but which the president and members of Congress do not go through because they refuse to fly commercial air) has been a useless Kabuki theater.

The procedures that have wasted millions of hours of time cannot keep the most basic bomb materials off an airplane. This is like locking your windows to prevent burglaries, while leaving the front door wide open.

Airport security has been using metal detectors to confiscate sharp objects that could be turned into make-shift weapons, which could then be used by terrorists to commandeer control of a plane and fly it into a building.

Except the terrorists can't do that because we've seen that trick before.

After 9/11, airline passengers will never allow a half-dozen terrorists to take control of a plane again. Indeed, on 9/11, passengers on Flight 93 prevented terrorists who had already been given control of the plane from flying it into a building after hearing what had happened to the first three hijacked planes.

To pull off a 9/11-style attack now, literally half the passengers on the plane would have to be terrorists. (At least the airport screeners wouldn't have to worry about confiscating a lot of deodorants.)

I think a planeful of Arabs would attract attention — except from people who had recently completed a government training program teaching them not to notice anyone's appearance. Not even a group of liberal Democrats flying off to a Renaissance Weekend would stand for that.

The sole objective of airport security post-9/11 has been to accomplish the impossible — remove all sharp objects from a plane — in order to prevent an attack that won't ever happen again. (OK — well, that and finding out what color of lingerie Ann Coulter prefers.)

The plan seems to be to make flying so unpleasant that terrorists — like the people who write laws about airport security — will refuse to fly commercial air. On that theory, we could also keep terrorists off planes by forcing passengers to undergo root canal surgery before boarding, making them stand on their heads for an hour, or enacting an "all Whoopi Goldberg in-flight movie" policy.

What stopped last week's terrorist attack was ethnic profiling. We don't know the details of the British intelligence work that nabbed the 24 Muslims because The New York Times has not been able to obtain that classified information and publish it on its front page yet. But it is a fact that you could not catch 24 Muslim terrorists by surveilling everyone in Britain equally.

Without the ethnic profiling going on outside of airports, no security procedure currently permissible inside airports would have prevented a terrorist attack that would have left thousands dead.

Airplanes, ports, bridges, subways and shopping malls cannot ever be sanitized against every type of attack that can be dreamed up by fanatics engaged in asymmetrical warfare. We have to target the fanatics themselves. Baby formula doesn't kill people. Islamic fascists kill people.

http://www.anncoulter.com/cgi-local/welcome.cgi