I'm tired of people saying that some sea and lake monsters don't exist. So here's my personal theories on some monsters.

Nessie: This is a little hard, but I put a lot of thought into it. Of course everyone says Nessie is a plesiosaurus that became trapped in the lake millions of years ago and is a relative of many generations of nessie. This may be true, but people are always saying that the lake cannot support organisms that large. But what I think is, there is some sort of underwater tunnel that leads from there to another source of water, or even the ocean. It may travel to find food. Loch Ness is so deep, that not all of it hasn't been explored yet. Who knows what's down there. I think this theory could be correct with other lake monsters.

Sea Serpents: Now this is very easy, The ocean takes up 75% of the Earth's surface. We know more about space then our own ocean. We have know idea what's down there. Plus there are trenches that are miles deep, take the Marianna Trench for example. Any creature big or small can hide down there. Plus most of us heard about how some scientists think there are megalodons down there. Who knows what else is down there. I mean, we didn't even photograph a live giant squid 'til last year.


Please comment my theories. Plus I want to hear your own personal theories. This is an important discussion I think we need to discuss.

I have a theory but it's very...strange

I think seaserpents could be overturned whales exposing their um... 'soilder' Lol this would explain the necka nd the tail soo to follow.



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Man, words can't even express what I'm thinking.

Excellent theory.

I think that the existence of living plesiosaurs a possible thing.

Remember the Celacant discovery.

It could be possible that they still live, but i think it's a very slim possability because there are HUGE trenches in the ocean and scientists belive the megalodon couls still live down there.


P.s. thank you coldethyl!
not bad for a 15 year old

The deeper down you are in the ocean, two things happen. The amount of energy decreases (energy from the sun is absorbed and doesn't reach), and the water pressure increases. Both of these things prevent organisms growing large. Almost all life found deep in the ocean is very small.



Such as? I've never known of any credible marine biologists who have suggested that megalodons still exist.

About the sea serpent thing, it does sound logical. But maybe they're like sperm whales, they dive deep for food and comes back up for air. And the megalodon thing, it wasn't very famous scientists, but I read on one of these posts that some japanese scientists saw what they thought to be a very large shark. Some people think it's a megalodon but it could just be a new species of shark.

About the sea serpent thing, it does sound logical. But maybe they're like sperm whales, they dive deep for food and comes back up for air. And the megalodon thing, it wasn't very famous scientists, but I read on one of these posts that some japanese scientists saw what they thought to be a very large shark. Some people think it's a megalodon but it could just be a new species of shark.

sorry, didn't mean to post it twice

I tend to agree that the possibility of huge sea creatures is a very real one. 75% water is a *lot* of water... even in explored regions creatures may have moved into them after they were explored... But I also agree that eventually we would have to come across a body or something along those lines... (sorry for my inability to properly express, crypto isn't my field, lol)

Exaaactly! That's what I always say! Nessie can also fall into this category.

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...showtopic=19412

thats wer the megoladon in the trench was talked about 1st on this site

But we knew that they were there for a lot longer.

No they don't. Please give me a list of legit scientists that believe this.
The inital article was from Pravda. Which is like a World Weekly news. In other words, a bunch of crap.

Inever said they were legit famous scientists

They don't need to be famous. Just real and not made up. List them. That was said by crypto kid. Not you, unless you are one in the same.

Myself, I'm open to all kinds of cryptobeasts, but I have to say that there's just no way Loch Ness is connected to the ocean. Such a connection, if it existed, would be all too obvious even assuming no mingling of sal****er with the freshwater in the Loch. Consider what would happen to Loch Ness four times a day (two high and two low tides.)

Harte

Well there's still no evidence. No carcasses washing up on beaches, no unknown creatures in the stomachs of other sea life etc.

ceolacanth, You mean.

i think sea serpents could be anacondas. i know u think its crazy, but back then, they couldve confused it with a sea serpent. they also couldve been freakishly giant snakes or beaked whales, sea cows, or a unknown animal.

not true, the 1937 naden harbour carcass i think couldve been a cadborosaurus. it didnt resemble any other decomposed carcasses

Oh you mean the mean the picture of a boot lol.

Ive heard that theory and no i dont think youre crazy.


You do know cadborosaurus isnt a... real animal, as of now.

That was not a cadborosaurus carcasses, that was a basking shark carcasses. I know it sounds funny or am I ignorant. But how come a sea serpents considered anaconda or anaconda was considered sea seprents? Anaconda is a freshwater snake. I'm not sure (and maybe I would want to) if anaconda can swim on the ocean. If that truly happened, then we would see this things more often. Otherwise, reports of sea serpents usually have a record of the witnesses seeing the upright head or the serpents, standing just like a cobra would before it strikes. Now, can they do that on the sea? Unless they're miles long, they won't be able to keep the head upright. And if they're miles long, we would've all SEEN IT!

The plesiosaurus species are accepted to have long became extinct before Loch Ness was formed, so it is impossible that there was an extant breeding group of plesiosaurus living in Loch Ness. More likely, the plesiosaurus is a recent inhabitant, geographically speaking, the loch was formed after the ice age. The saying that we know more of space than our own ocean is simply false......

I didn;t realise that the full depth of Loch Ness has not been explored yet... very interesting.

I also like the theory about the whales showing off their 'johnsons'... as a fun theory but don't really think it carries much weight scientifically, cos I am sure that there haven;t only been sightings of the necks of these sea creatures but also of their bodies?

Don't Giant squid live in the deepest parts of the ocean?

Andaconda's live in South America...You won't find one in salt-water. The largest sea snakes are no more than 3 feet long.

Sea monsters are just miss-IDed animals, like oarfish. The other possibility is mass hysteria/pareidolia.

Just gonna back up the oarfish idea,

And also no way extinct marine reptiles or Meg still exist. They occupied large ecological niches, so when disaster struck, they were hit the hardest...thus they went extinct. "Smaller" (lower on the food chain) animals such as nautilius and coelecanths survived because they weren't hit as hard as marine reptiles...Even the great white survived while the Meg didn't.

Also, like RX7 said, the deeper you go, the smaller they get. Most fish there are no bigger than your hand, with the largest animals down there being tube worms. Giant squid are thought to be middle-level pelagic animals...feeding on mackerel, herring and tuna.

COELACANTH, you mean.....

But it's oh so much fun to read!

the caddy carcass isnt a basking shark. i know what basking sharks look like after decomposed, and the caddy had no resemblance whatsoever. its lost now and it wouldve been a great discovery. ive compared the caddy carcass with all other animal carcasses, and i came up with no match except that it bears resemblence to the sea cow

and the other possibility is there real unknown animals. what if i ruled out those explanations, i would have to conclude it mightve been real. these sailors sighted giant squid, and sea serpents

I'd agree with you that there are many creatures on the ocean that we haven't discovered it yet. But for me, as much as I want to truly see it, I'd say that sea serpents are simply misidentified animals, mostly based on witnesses only, never been truly photographed.
And mind you, I'm talking about sea serpents and not sea MONSTERS.

Well i guess the name is really difficult hehe

I was pretty lucky, I remember the Latin name of both species of living Coelacanth since I've seen it in our National History Museum,
it's Latimeria chalumnae for the Comoros species and Latimeria Menadoensis for the one in my country's waters.

Sea-monsters, I just can't drink the kool-aid on sea-monsters. There have been just too many "sightings" that turn-out to be Oarfish or some other semi-common sea creature....the whale "thing" was hilarious by the way, "thar she blowwwwwwwwwwwwsss".

As far as the "Giant Squiid" is concerned, they have been known to exist for some time now, there has just never been one captured on video or by picture before...until recently.

I wholeheartedly agree that until we have a chance to explore the deepest and most remote areas of the Earth's Oceans we may be missing something in terms of reclusive Oceanic life forms, but the criteria(until proven otherwise) for determining the size of these lifeforms(lack of sufficent light energy and oceanic pressure, and in turn, smaller size of prey) remains the same....and in keeping with that criteria, I do not believe that there is ANYTHING like a Megalodon living in the deep, deep Oceans.....oh, and if there ARE sea-monsters living in the deep Oceans, then they are the smallest "monsters" one could imagine.

The deepest point in the ocean is ~10km below sealevel, and I believe most Giant Squid live at depths of ~3km, but I don't doubt some may live a little deeper. Keeping that in mind, I think it's very unlikely there are any large unknown creatures living deeper; especially in the Mariana Trench.



How can you tell it bears no resemblance? The only images I've seen are in terrible quality, it's impossible to tell what it is or isn't. If you have any good quality images, could you post them?

Can we please see more pics of whale dooders?

This is a scientific discussion, NOT WHALE PORNO

No its not. It is just people discussing creatures that doesn't exist anymore. Did you get me a list of any scientists that believe a Megladon still exists? No. Thats what I thought.

Well there is no need to get hostile. Come on, you gotta think whale dooders sticking up out of the ocean is just a little bit funny...

Well I know I do.

I'm going to get in trouble.

So...where's the scientific evidence?

theres no evidence that the caddy carcass was a basking shark, so ha. im not saying ur wrong, but always consider my theory to be possible. u dont have to believe it. i agree with u its possible, but not probable. the caddy carcass couldve been the greatest discovery in zoology

I don't have my personal pics set-up yet............................what?

I new I was going to stir up trouble with that little comment....

rofl!!!

You have a personal photograph collection of whale pe...

YOU know what he meant.

You think it....I say it....it's a curse.