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SAS3000
After about 50000 years when we will be going to the other planets, then we will be called the aliens and then the residents of that planet will be as curious to know about us as we are today about the ALIENS (high level or advanced scientists) that come to our HOME! alien.gif
coldethyl
huh.gif What are you trying to say?
CryptoRay
Could happen, but do you really think we will ever have the technology to travel hundreds of millions of lightyears away from Earth? We will die before we get there, unless we travel faster than the speed of light, which is impossible.
DEBUNKER
QUOTE(CryptoRay @ Aug 24 2006, 05:09 AM) [snapback]1319749[/snapback]

We will die before we get there, unless we travel faster than the speed of light, which is impossible.


I agree,Faster-Than-Light travel is problematic in a universe that is consistent with Einstein's theory of relativity. Only in a hypothetical universe could it be possible to travel at that speed,and even then it would take us about 4,5 years to our closest star.

Alpha Centauri. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_Centaur...lanet_formation
SAS3000
QUOTE(CryptoRay @ Aug 24 2006, 05:09 AM) [snapback]1319749[/snapback]

Could happen, but do you really think we will ever have the technology to travel hundreds of millions of lightyears away from Earth? We will die before we get there, unless we travel faster than the speed of light, which is impossible.

I think tha t nothing is impossible. who in the past before 4000 years ie2000bc would have thought that one day man would be able to fly in the air , and today we know that how easily it is possible and not one or two but more than hundreds of us travell in this magic device(ie Aeroplane) from one place to the other.
Can you tell that ,at that time if thought to travell from USA to China , then was it possibe? First of all it might have seemed not to have been possible, and even if possible would have very easily taken about 40-50 yrs. But today we know that we can very easily do that by giving even less than 10 hours of our life's time.

So what ever seems im-possible Today , becomes the reality of Tomorrow original.gif thumbsup.gif yes.gif cool.gif .
Pax Unum
QUOTE(SAS3000 @ Aug 24 2006, 08:16 AM) [snapback]1319960[/snapback]

I think tha t nothing is impossible. who in the past before 4000 years ie2000bc would have thought that one day man would be able to fly in the air , and today we know that how easily it is possible and not one or two but more than hundreds of us travell in this magic device(ie Aeroplane) from one place to the other.
Can you tell that ,at that time if thought to travell from USA to China , then was it possibe? First of all it might have seemed not to have been possible, and even if possible would have very easily taken about 40-50 yrs. But today we know that we can very easily do that by giving even less than 10 hours of our life's time.

So what ever seems im-possible Today , becomes the reality of Tomorrow original.gif thumbsup.gif yes.gif cool.gif .

Humans have imagined flight for centurys, ever hear of Icarus? or Vimana's? Leonardo da Vinci produced plans for several flying machines, including a helicopter and a hang glider...

so you think there will be some way around relativity, like hyperspace or wormholes?
supercar
Einstein also came up ith the theory of bending space. Wormholes.

This is from www.popsci.com :

A spacecraft that travels at faster-than-light speeds by distorting, or “warping,” the fabric of spacetime. Instead of trying to move through space, the warp drive moves space itself. The ship sits inside a bubble of spacetime bound by a negative energy field that races across the cosmos.

http://www.popsci.com/popsci/aviationspace...ecbccdrcrd.html
Daniella2310
QUOTE(SAS3000 @ Aug 23 2006, 01:07 PM) [snapback]1318664[/snapback]

After about 50000 years when we will be going to the other planets, then we will be called the aliens and then the residents of that planet will be as curious to know about us as we are today about the ALIENS (high level or advanced scientists) that come to our HOME! alien.gif

LOL somehow I pictured Chong(from Cheech and Chong) saying this rofl.gif
Neerazan
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''Dude, like in about 5000 years from now, when we will be going to the other planets, then we will be called the aliens and then the residents of that planet will be as curious to know about us as we are today about the ALIENS that come to our HOME!
Startraveler
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Only in a hypothetical universe could it be possible to travel at that speed,and even then it would take us about 4,5 years to our closest star.


Technically that's not true; it is possible to get there in less than 4 years. The key lies in the fact that when you're moving close to the speed of light you experience a phenomenon called length contractions--distances actually get smaller. If you were moving at 90% of the speed of light the distance to Alpha Centauri would only be about 44% of what it seems to us right now or something like 1.9 light years.
ChupaCabra_researcher
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Could happen, but do you really think we will ever have the technology to travel hundreds of millions of lightyears away from Earth? We will die before we get there, unless we travel faster than the speed of light, which is impossible.


No, G-waves(gravitation waves)are much faster than lightspeed so there is a possibility to travel in that speed.
Also i believe if that G-waves isnt the fastest, i heard there where some object that travelled faster than anything in the universe. i think that the speed is infinite.
Startraveler
Gravitational waves are thought to travel at exactly the speed of light. There aren't any physical theories that have waves going faster than light (you might be thinking of something like Bohm's pilot waves which come out of an interpretation of quantum mechanics--but that's a whole different can of worms).
chadster
QUOTE(CryptoRay @ Aug 24 2006, 05:09 AM) [snapback]1319749[/snapback]

Could happen, but do you really think we will ever have the technology to travel hundreds of millions of lightyears away from Earth? We will die before we get there, unless we travel faster than the speed of light, which is impossible.



Wormholes my friend
Atheist God
QUOTE(DEBUNKER @ Aug 24 2006, 07:49 AM) [snapback]1319950[/snapback]

I agree,Faster-Than-Light travel is problematic in a universe that is consistent with Einstein's theory of relativity. Only in a hypothetical universe could it be possible to travel at that speed,and even then it would take us about 4,5 years to our closest star.


Still you don't have to break universal laws to acheive interstellar travel. When it comes to faster then light travel several theories have popped up.

1: Wormholes
Many people think that the shortest distance between 2 points is a line. Well this may not be true a worm hole is essentially folding space and time then ripping a hole that connects the 2 points. theoretically a type 3 civilization could do this or maybe even a type 2.

2: Warp Drive
Warp does not involve faster then light travel. What it essentially does is shrinks space in front of you and expands it behind you. However the power for such a craft to have this ability is nearly unimaginable even for type 3 civilizations.

3: Hyper Space
Theoretically entering hyperspace would allow us to travel at limitless speeds. It is said by physicists that our universe is but one bubble in an ocean of universes surrounded by hyperspace where the laws of physics break down. Physicists beleive that we live in a multi-verse. Essentially if we can jump into hyperspace we can move faster then light.
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In regards to what we will be like in let's say 100k years or so...

Comparing an intersteller civilization to us currently is like comparing us to insects as in terms of how far ahead we would be of a culture with our current capabilities. When you encounter a fly do you try communicating with it or do you simply ignor it or squash as if it were nothing. Well no one really talks to a fly they can't understand us. The same with a civilization that far ahead of us. They would simply not regard us as intellegent and simply ignore us.

SOUL-DRIFTER
This could be what ALAN C. HOLT was thinking when he proposed field dependent propulsion. propulsion, way back in the 70s.
He suggested a type of photon drive to get a ship as close to the speed of light as possible, then switching to gravitational drive( using the gravitational attraction of a star to pull it into a fourth dimension or hyperspace.
Einstein's theory is not violated as just as you begin to speed past light you would leave, normal space/time.
Chantilas
The topic starter's views partially matches with a scientist's(forgot his name) statement which said:-

"Man came from outer space."
dmurdock36
QUOTE(CryptoRay @ Aug 23 2006, 10:09 PM) [snapback]1319749[/snapback]

Could happen, but do you really think we will ever have the technology to travel hundreds of millions of lightyears away from Earth? We will die before we get there, unless we travel faster than the speed of light, which is impossible.

nothing is impossible we just havent figure it out yet just look at what we have done in a few hundred years, in another thousand years we will probably just bring the planet we want to visit to us
ivytheplant
QUOTE(SAS3000 @ Aug 23 2006, 11:07 AM) [snapback]1318664[/snapback]

After about 50000 years when we will be going to the other planets, then we will be called the aliens


My brother's called me an alien for years now. But I didn't get a spaceship for graduation. Now I'm stuck on this rock with you humans. tongue.gif

As much as I'd like to contemplate the idea of FTL travel, I just don't have the background for it. I do know that I would like it to be possible and I'm nerdy enough to wish I was born in a different era. Too late to explore new continents, too early to explore new planets. Here's hoping for reincarnation as a crew member on the Enterprise wink2.gif
CryptoRay
QUOTE(dmurdock36 @ Aug 25 2006, 04:08 PM) [snapback]1321964[/snapback]

nothing is impossible we just havent figure it out yet just look at what we have done in a few hundred years, in another thousand years we will probably just bring the planet we want to visit to us

It's taken us over 10,000 years and the farthest we've gone is the moon. At this rate it will be millions of years before we can even leave the milky way. But some day in the far off future when the sun dies, and the Earth becomes inhabitable, the human race will be forced to leave the Earth and search for a new planet to live on. Hopefully we would have mastered space flight by then.
sky..
QUOTE(CryptoRay @ Aug 26 2006, 06:33 PM) [snapback]1323399[/snapback]

It's taken us over 10,000 years and the farthest we've gone is the moon. At this rate it will be millions of years before we can even leave the milky way. But some day in the far off future when the sun dies, and the Earth becomes inhabitable, the human race will be forced to leave the Earth and search for a new planet to live on. Hopefully we would have mastered space flight by then.



not really. don't you notice that for the past hundred years, technology has progressed a lot faster than before.
mouse888
i think sky right i mean fifty years ago who would thought of people having pc or portable ones and hundred years ago who would thought of travelling the other of the world by flight.
the next fifty or hundred years is going to be interesting if we live that long!
ivytheplant
Oh come on. You're telling me that cro-magnon didn't have FTL travel?
Warmachine5000
What about in 2012 when thought as we know it changes completely? What about that?
ivytheplant
QUOTE(Warmachine5000 @ Aug 26 2006, 10:53 PM) [snapback]1323618[/snapback]

What about in 2012 when thought as we know it changes completely? What about that?


Bunk.
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