I dunno the teasing has an appeal

Not in the slightest, what I'm saying is: Someone sees an Oarfish in the Loch(I think we all know of which Loch I speak) and has no idea of what an Oarfish is.....POOF.....You have the Loch Ness Monster!!! Someone sees a bear walking upright(they have been known to do so) from behind and.........POOF...you have my pal 'Ol Footy.....which lends to the mass-hysteria that Frogfish was eluding to earlier. Now, understand me, I am IN NO WAY saying that what you saw was ANYTHING other than what you saw, all I'm saying is that without that concrete proof that NOBODY seems to have readily available, how can ANYONE be expected to buy-into the "Legend" of Bigfoot when there is sooooooooo much hoaxed and inconclusive footage circulating by word-of-mouth and The Net?

Have you ever been back to the same places that you first witnessed the "creature" in question?

Totally agreed on just passed on reports on the net, for my research in the spot give or take 200 hrs
Yeah about 6 months of study

Is I said before their is no "proof" thought I made that clear


For the 3rd time mass-hysteria of what animal? what animal can the aborigines first up confuse? think I asked that about 2 pages ago

I have absolutely no idea(and have no problem saying it) what animal indigenous to that neck-o-the-woods could be mistaken for The Yowie...or any other "Bigfoot-like" creature....I was simply trying to use the "mass-hysteria" theory that Frogfish eluded to earlier to illustrate how these types of so-called Cryptids are born.........again, I am in no way trying to refute what you say you witnessed, if you have seen enough of that creature for it to be "the gospel truth" TO YOU, and you have no problem with that.....then so be it.

Believe it or not i agree with you more than you know, just out of everything on this board ive seen it with my own eyes

Never stop asking the hard questions

Is this what you saw?

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I find it interesting that generally large bi-peds are referenced all over the planet at all historical times in the modern industrial age era from so many varied cultures with nothing in common. Simply because simpletons have perpetrated hoaxes does not discount ALL incidents. It's very easy for anyone with zoological training to differentiate inflexible wood foot attachments made for producing fake tracks. When tracks with clear dermal ridges are found and the toes in the footptints have moved from step to step as they do in humans then its obvious even to the most prejudiced that they are not faked with wooded casts.

After all when the searchers go into the bush and haven't told anyone where they're going because they haven't decided until when they're turning off the road it's more than likeky hoaxers aren't in front of them. When tracks begin 8 miles off the nearest road and continue for 2/3rds of a mile who but the lamest idiot would fake them just hoping that in the vastness of the continent observers would choose that exact area to search.

And as for "proof," when found hair samples repeatedly do not match ANY other catalogued zoological species in the world how would naysayers explain it, an ongoing glitch in the databases?

Hair unidentifiable by DNA testing?......and this occured.....when?

Ah, Andre....where for art thou Andre....burried 6' deep in a piano-case that's where.

It's been occuring for the past decade or more! The samples come out as 'unknown.' So what animals do we not know or have data on?

Yeah the DNA thing has occured many times, they show it on just about every National Geographic or Discovery Channel special about Big Foot.

People who said they've seen a big foot, go and set tree branch traps..... In other words they brake small tree branches so there's just a pointy edge left sticking out, and they do this where they've seen a big foot on multiple occassions.........eventually the Big foot walks by and part of his fur gets stuck to the pointy broken branches, then the person who made the traps takes the hair and reports it as a possible big foot hair............. Then they take it for DNA testing and find out that the DNA is from and unknown animal species that doesn't match any of their records!

No, proof my eye!

News to me...

Frogfish, a twig snaps.....so what. Another twig snaps you listen closer hear rustling of the ground it's a lyre bird.

No dingos around these parts.

You hear a thump in the bush, you listen... more thumps in a certain pattern bounding away and the dogs choking at the collar wanting to follow you know it's a wallaby.

Please if you live in the bush and take the time to listen you soon learn the normal sounds of our creatures.

Vocalisation of 2 primate types to each other, wood being knocked together in a proper pattern and dogs scared crapless dragging you out of there......... yes it just must be a possum.

Yet people still confuse floating logs for Nessie, a Rhino for Mokele-Mbembe, a howl of a wolf for the Wedingo, etc.

And don't get me started about pictures..

yowie its more realistic than loon scientist

I know people get confused, when I first moved into the mountains and heard my first wallaby moving around I was scared. Once I heard it bound off I worked out what it was.

My kids were screaming there was a yowie under the deck and they could see it's hair. It was just a big tuft of possum hair (from a fight) caught in the deck planks and blowing in the breeze creating movement. It happened not long after we moved here and I admit it took me a while to go investigate because the kids would scream everytime I'd go to venture outside.


We're now talking 7yrs later, I know my bush now and what's normal and what's not. Indeed has also spent a couple of years out in the bush. We're not talking about city slickers on their first bush walk making sightings.

But would you not respectfully agree that, given the present knowledge of your surroundings, if there were to be something rustling in the bush...and causing your dogs to cower in fear...and making noises that you have never before heard or can explain/account for, wouldn't it make sense to go and discover what the origins of those anomolies may be? rather than speculating? THIS is what burns my hindquarters...you don't know what it is..so rather than saying "I have NO damn idea what it could be", people just attach any label they possibly can to it, and succeed in accomplishing nothing but propagating a myth. The fact of the matter is.....we don't know WHAT the hell it is....or even what the hell it MAY be.....so why don't we go and find-out? and if we sit-out all night and STILL don't know what it is, or haven't gotten a glimpse of ANYTHING...don't speculate...there is too much of that going on as it is!!!!

Onyxdk, have you ever been to Australia? Have you been in our National Parks? You can't even see 5 metres in front of you in some parts the shrub is so thick.

Tell me if you had outgoing dogs, one of whom has proven she is extremely game and aggressive to other animals and yet she cowers you'd go and check it out? That would be similar to someone in the USA in bear territory. If all indications pointed to a large grizzly being near you, would you just walk up and say 'hi Mr Grizzly can I have a cuddle'?

We don't know how a yowie will react, there's been reports of some aggressive ones but also some that seem more willing to interact.

I know where I live the yowie comes and goes, we've been in a drought here and the drier it gets the longer between encounters. Like any animal he'd be following a water and food source.

I've never been to Australia, but I have been in areas of the woods were the visual is about zero, and if I encounter something that would even scare my hunting dogs, I would take no chances, of course, and I understand what your trying to say, but I also need to know what I'm up against, and if I..as you say...know every sound and scent of my surrounding area, and STILL have no idea of what might be in the surrounding area, I would go back "prepared" and find-out EXACTLY what I'm dealing with....grizzly bear or Yowie...we're going to have a heart-to-heart, that's just the way I am, and if it's something that I can't handle....that's just an a**-kicking I'm going to have to take..

An ass kicking isn't something I'm prepared to risk. I have children, on one encounter I had one of my kids with me.

There are groups of people out here who do go out to hot-spots, I've never really had a chance with the kids and living in different states to go along. It would be interesting as I feel the yowies we've had around here are more interested in the kids and women. My husband walked the dogs a couple of days after I'd had a more playful encounter and he was shown an aggressive presence. Lots of thumping and shaking of large bushes in front of him. He's 6ft tall and still took off.

Tee-hee. I can't help but giggle. Mods please forgive me. If I didn't laugh at that I couldn't really live with myself, could I?

I'm NOT with her, we just walked-in together...

In THAT regard I fully understand and sympathize..