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Hafis
I mean where is he, there has been no nice clues for months now, no nice pics no vids no hair or footprints , nothing:) i miss him, he is nice

And just wanna SAY HI TO ALL here:) i been reading the forum for long i love it:)
sadistic jellyfish of doom
QUOTE(Hafis @ Aug 23 2006, 11:30 AM) [snapback]1318826[/snapback]

I mean where is he, there has been no nice clues for months now, no nice pics no vids no hair or footprints , nothing:) i miss him, he is nice

And just wanna SAY HI TO ALL here:) i been reading the forum for long i love it:)

you mean yowie, right?
frogfish
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I mean where is he, there has been no nice clues for months now, no nice pics no vids no hair or footprints , nothing:) i miss him, he is nice

And just wanna SAY HI TO ALL here:) i been reading the forum for long i love it:)

Never existed in the first place...
Hafis
Yeah Yowie:P he exixts i believe:)
frogfish
Do you believe in the toothfairy also?

Give me some rock hard evidence...
sadistic jellyfish of doom
QUOTE(frogfish @ Aug 23 2006, 11:40 AM) [snapback]1318851[/snapback]

Do you believe in the toothfairy also?

Give me some rock hard evidence...

Give me some rock hard evidence that you arent the tooth fairy and work for the goverment. wink2.gif
frogfish
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Give me some rock hard evidence that you arent the tooth fairy and work for the goverment.

Well, there is no proof the toothfairy exists...back on topic tongue.gif

We were talking about how the Yowie doesn't exist, except in Native American Lore..
sadistic jellyfish of doom
QUOTE(frogfish @ Aug 23 2006, 11:44 AM) [snapback]1318857[/snapback]

Well, there is no proof the toothfairy exists...back on topic tongue.gif

We were talking about how the Yowie doesn't exist, except in Native American Lore..

the yowies from austrailia fishboy laugh.gif
frogfish
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the yowies from austrailia fishboy

Sheesh, I meant Aboriginies.
sadistic jellyfish of doom
QUOTE(frogfish @ Aug 23 2006, 11:57 AM) [snapback]1318886[/snapback]

Sheesh, I meant Aboriginies.

sure ya did happy.gif
coldethyl
What is the OP after with this thread anyway??
sadistic jellyfish of doom
QUOTE(coldethyl @ Aug 23 2006, 12:26 PM) [snapback]1318928[/snapback]

What is the OP after with this thread anyway??

unsure.gif *whispers* I have no freaking idea.
Agent. Mulder
QUOTE(sadistic jellyfish of doom @ Aug 23 2006, 06:37 PM) [snapback]1318840[/snapback]


well whether the yowie does exist or not, that was an interesting vid. hard to make out wat it was. coulda been any sort of wild animal.
still a good find
sadistic jellyfish of doom
QUOTE(Agent. Mulder @ Aug 23 2006, 03:01 PM) [snapback]1319173[/snapback]

well whether the yowie does exist or not, that was an interesting vid. hard to make out wat it was. coulda been any sort of wild animal.
still a good find

actually, I had no idea it existed untill I read a thread on it.
TheEssenceofExcellence
Hmm....

An animal that exists both in Native American legend, as well as Australian legend, not to mention many other cultures......with thousands of eye witnesses seeing it, some people filming the rare good videos, and some people actually recording noises from the animal, as well as many reporting a strange smell.....

Hmm...... It's been seen (1 sense), smelt (2nd sense), heard (3rd sense which actually correlates with taste making a 4th sense), along with people observing it affecting its' enviornment with touch (5th sense). Hmm..........well, it appears to me that the evidence covers ALL five sense. As well as the 6th sense of feel, since the animal has inspired the feeling of fear by those that encountered it.....

Seems to me that by scientific analysis of our human senses that it has been proven to exist...........unless everyone (including ancient people) who seen it were/are all pathological liars, which from a scientific standpoint would be near statistically impossible.


If you went by the skeptcis definition of proving somethings existence (which is only done by them staring at a dead body or live captive)....Then the opossom didn't exist either during the time America was being explored by Europeans, because all the Europeans had were eye witness accounts from explorers of its' existence.
frogfish
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Seems to me that by scientific analysis of our human senses that it has been proven to exists..........unless everyone (including ancient people) who seen it were/are all pathological liars, which from a scientific standpoint would be near statistically impossible.

2 words...Mass hysteria and pareidolia...
TheEssenceofExcellence
Hmm....

Interesting thought.

But the only thing known to induce mass histeria and panic is the threat of war or unpredictable nuclear or terrorist attack (and the occasional big storm). The reason being that the life and lives of loved ones is in jepordy on a global scale.

In contrast, an animal that is rarely seen and many believe doesn't even exist doesn't produce a life threatening mass histeria or panic.....especially since there has been no reports of any deaths caused by any crpytozological animals other then the sauropod dinos in africa, and even if that was true it wouldn't have been caused by a crypto because we already know dino's existed at one point or another.

And I don't think it could be any kind of peronoia dellusional thing either because we're still talking about an animal (just an animal) that only very few people have come in contact with.
frogfish
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And I don't think it could be any kind of peronoia dellusional thing either because we're still talking about an animal (just an animal) that only very few people have come in contact with.

I think you miss the point of pareidolia...When someone sees a bear in the forest...they scream out bigfoot. When a brown leaf in a photo looks homonid, they scream out bigfoot...The thing is, this creature doesn't exist...except in the minds of believers.
Allfather of Valhalla
QUOTE(frogfish @ Aug 23 2006, 08:04 PM) [snapback]1319276[/snapback]

2 words...Mass hysteria and pareidolia...


3 words not 2.....mass, hysteria, paranoia.
frogfish
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3 words not 2

tongue.gif You know what I mean..Its not paranoia, its pareidolia

4 words actually...mass, hysteria, and, pareidolia.
Allfather of Valhalla
QUOTE(frogfish @ Aug 23 2006, 09:20 PM) [snapback]1319401[/snapback]

tongue.gif You know what I mean..Its not paranoia, its pareidolia

4 words actually...mass, hysteria, and, pareidolia.


Count with your fingers, not yer brain cells.
sadistic jellyfish of doom
QUOTE(TheEssenceofExcellence @ Aug 23 2006, 04:01 PM) [snapback]1319271[/snapback]

Hmm....

An animal that exists both in Native American legend, as well as Australian legend, not to mention many other cultures......with thousands of eye witnesses seeing it, some people filming the rare good videos, and some people actually recording noises from the animal, as well as many reporting a strange smell.....

Hmm...... It's been seen (1 sense), smelt (2nd sense), heard (3rd sense which actually correlates with taste making a 4th sense), along with people observing it affecting its' enviornment with touch (5th sense). Hmm..........well, it appears to me that the evidence covers ALL five sense. As well as the 6th sense of feel, since the animal has inspired the feeling of fear by those that encountered it.....

Seems to me that by scientific analysis of our human senses that it has been proven to exist...........unless everyone (including ancient people) who seen it were/are all pathological liars, which from a scientific standpoint would be near statistically impossible.
If you went by the skeptcis definition of proving somethings existence (which is only done by them staring at a dead body or live captive)....Then the opossom didn't exist either during the time America was being explored by Europeans, because all the Europeans had were eye witness accounts from explorers of its' existence.

I like you alot more than fishboy.
CaitSith
I'm so sick of pareidolia! Everything that you can't debunk you fall back on this. I guess it's an easier stance than finding facts.
No, no, I believe you, everyones hallucinating. tongue.gif
frogfish
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I'm so sick of pareidolia! Everything that you can't debunk you fall back on this. I guess it's an easier stance than finding facts.
No, no, I believe you, everyones hallucinating

Pareidolia is not hallucination...It accounts for a lot of sightings...Can't stand up to science? Face it, giant homonids don't exist.
sadistic jellyfish of doom
QUOTE(frogfish @ Aug 23 2006, 06:16 PM) [snapback]1319474[/snapback]

Pareidolia is not hallucination...It accounts for a lot of sightings...Can't stand up to science? Face it, giant homonids don't exist.

Honestly frogfish. Find another name for Pareidolia.
frogfish
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Honestly frogfish. Find another name for Pareidolia.

That's the only word for it...that I know of.
CaitSith
Theres nothing to back up that it even accounts for a fraction of sightings
sadistic jellyfish of doom
QUOTE(frogfish @ Aug 23 2006, 07:45 PM) [snapback]1319612[/snapback]

That's the only word for it...that I know of.

Go get your Thesaurus.
AtlantisRises
QUOTE(sadistic jellyfish of doom @ Aug 24 2006, 04:07 AM) [snapback]1318840[/snapback]



Well if thats the best videos available then its fair to say that it is a bit of a joke.

That particular vid could be anything from a bear to a person in a camojacket or even the easter bunny,

As to Pareidolia of course it is important in all sightings be they Bigfoot, yeti etc or UFOs and ghosts, the power of suggestion is extreme and to think otherwise is to be wrong.
sadistic jellyfish of doom
QUOTE(AtlantisRises @ Aug 23 2006, 10:00 PM) [snapback]1319743[/snapback]

Well if thats the best videos available then its fair to say that it is a bit of a joke.

That particular vid could be anything from a bear to a person in a camojacket or even the easter bunny,

As to Pareidolia of course it is important in all sightings be they Bigfoot, yeti etc or UFOs and ghosts, the power of suggestion is extreme and to think otherwise is to be wrong.

Meh...
kenshinx
too many eyewitness. so i belive bigfoot exist tongue.gif
indeed
Im wondering which Australian animal is geting mistaken for a 8 to 10 foot hominid blink.gif blink.gif
kenshinx
QUOTE(indeed @ Aug 24 2006, 11:50 AM) [snapback]1319923[/snapback]

Im wondering which Australian animal is geting mistaken for a 8 to 10 foot hominid blink.gif blink.gif


yes.gif
AtlantisRises
QUOTE(indeed @ Aug 24 2006, 09:20 PM) [snapback]1319923[/snapback]

Im wondering which Australian animal is geting mistaken for a 8 to 10 foot hominid blink.gif blink.gif



I'm wondering which eight to ten foot hominid has never been documented properly, has never had any real evidence produced of it and has never shown any indicationm of existing other then uncorroborated testimony and low quality often faked videos and photos...


Oh wait acutally i am not wondering, its the Yeti, Bigfoot, Yowie creature.
Tia
"Im wondering which Australian animal is geting mistaken for a 8 to 10 foot hominid"

It's Dropbear Gigantis, Indeed. yes.gif

I use to laugh at my brother when he said he was going yowie hunting and I was a child. Now I've personally had numerous encounters without even going looking for them to do anything but believe.
indeed
QUOTE(AtlantisRises @ Aug 24 2006, 10:14 PM) [snapback]1319933[/snapback]

I'm wondering which eight to ten foot hominid has never been documented properly, has never had any real evidence produced of it and has never shown any indicationm of existing other then uncorroborated testimony and low quality often faked videos and photos...
Oh wait acutally i am not wondering, its the Yeti, Bigfoot, Yowie creature.



Your right their is no scientific "proof" as such as we wouldnt be talking about this here and now laugh.gif

As for "never shown any indicationm of existing" So it would shock you to find out that the fossil record shows a 10 foot primate/hominid (still being debated by science) lived in ASIA as little as 100,000 years ago ohmy.gif

uncorroborated testimony mellow.gif You mean like 15 people seeing the same thing at the same time mellow.gif

So can you answer my question ?, what is the animal thats getting confused by National park rangers, hunters, heck even a senator that commit political suicide standing up in parliment and saying what he saw when asked by the senate and not to meantion the aboriginals huh.gif


Tia it is quite funny and strange, 4 years ago I would of been one of the people ribbing the Yowie believers
~Onyx~
QUOTE(indeed @ Aug 24 2006, 09:17 AM) [snapback]1319961[/snapback]

So can you answer my question ?, what is the animal thats getting confused by National park rangers, hunters


I don't know for sure, and I think I can say with 100% certainty that neither do you. Do I believe that those people you specified are seeing something?......yes, but WHAT are they seeing? EVERY DAMN VIDEO or picture that has been "documented" has been blurry, dark, inconclusive, unrecognizable, and in all other respects PROOF of nothing. Noises are nice, but unless you can attach a sound with it's origin, your just speculating, AGAIN.

I have stated before, with the utmost sincerity, that I really DO wish that 'Ol Footy was real...I DO!!! but the evidence is close to overwhelming on the side of non-existence. Just think to yourself "If I had a chance to get clear-cut video or photographic proof of a Gigantipithicus....wouldn't I?" you already know what your answer is......OF COURSE!!!! So how do you account for all of the 20ft away, blurry, half-pics, inconclusiveness? And I don't even want to begin to discuss the ADMITTEDLY hoaxed material(you lie to me once, why should I EVER just blindly believe ANYTHING you say again?), it's frustrating to say the least.
indeed
QUOTE(Onyxdk @ Aug 25 2006, 12:13 AM) [snapback]1320001[/snapback]

I don't know for sure, and I think I can say with 100% certainty that neither do you. Do I believe that those people you specified are seeing something?......yes, but WHAT are they seeing?


thumbsup.gif I can only speculate but having seen "something" myself twice I can relate.

As my question states, what is roaming around australia now that can be mis-identified ? mellow.gif

As for "documented" evidance I think yourtube or infact the internet as a whole is the last place people should be looking for evidance of anything. The net is second to the real life world and so many forget that.

From what ive seen with the 'Ol Footy game is who dies with the most evidance wins, no one likes to share. I would guess 95% of videos, footprints .. everything ... will never see the light of day on the internet.

Hoaxes you got to live with them no matter if its the kid down the road claiming a top of the range bike to bigfoot. Always have to have your BS meter going.

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it's frustrating to say the least.
For you and me both yes.gif
~Onyx~
QUOTE(indeed @ Aug 24 2006, 10:51 AM) [snapback]1320034[/snapback]

thumbsup.gif I can only speculate but having seen "something" myself twice I can relate.


Forgive my curiousity, but what did you see, exactly?
indeed
one 8 foot (measured from a surrounding tree later) and a 6 foot (something) tongue.gif

First one was with someone else, who we looked at eachother blink.gif and kept asking eachother if we where dreaming blink.gif

Second I was all alone so feel free to attack my credibility tongue.gif

Basicly a "something" with 2 forward facing eyes, covered in hair/fur and walks fluiently. Looked human like but wasnt huh.gif thumbsup.gif
~Onyx~
QUOTE(indeed @ Aug 24 2006, 11:10 AM) [snapback]1320062[/snapback]

one 8 foot (measured from a surrounding tree later) and a 6 foot (something) tongue.gif

First one was with someone else, who we looked at eachother blink.gif and kept asking eachother if we where dreaming blink.gif

Second I was all alone so feel free to attack my credibility tongue.gif

Basicly a "something" with 2 forward facing eyes, covered in hair/fur and walks fluiently. Looked human like but wasnt huh.gif thumbsup.gif


What I'm looking for are details, in terms of: Was it at night or during the day? were you just "taking a hike(literally)"? what did you, or more importantly, what did "it" do when you saw it? Did it look scary or fearsome(for lack of a better word) or just mundane?......forgive the multitude of questions, I'm just trying to get a handle on what goes through the mind of someone who has actually witnessed these "ceatures" first-hand.
indeed
thumbsup.gif no worries at all

first was at night (help of a 10 million candle power spotlight wink2.gif ) second was day


First was about 11 pm middle of a national park parked off the road. What it did basicly "charge down a hill" made enough noise to put spot light on it.

Stood their for a few seconds then moved to its left and glanced round a tree, blinked 4 times blink.gif looking at the spotty im guessing (retna killer it is) then turned around and went back the way it come


Day time i was "hiking" seen "something" walk across the trail 30 feet infront of me ph34r.gif


At the times was a blink.gif both time all I can say myself and other parties went into shock. Having to sit down and babbling unsure.gif blush.gif
frogfish
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what is roaming around australia now that can be mis-identified

Nothing is being misidentified...It's the power of suggestion. When a twig snaps, it's the Yowie....When a dingo calls, it's the Yowie, when a dingo or a kangaroo flees through the forest, it's a Yowie...

When a blurred leaf shapped like a homonid is photographed, its a Yowie.
indeed
sleepy.gif ill tell the aboriginal elder I know that, also the people that have seen a hominid animal that.

How about you dont dance around the question original.gif

huh.gif

PS im not talking about "When a twig snaps, it's the Yowie....When a dingo calls, it's the Yowie, when a dingo or a kangaroo flees through the forest, it's a Yowie..."

what is roaming around australia now that can be mis-identified ? huh.gif
~Onyx~
What tends to bother me the most when it comes to some of these sightings is the fact the people who ALREADY believe in these "creatures" become "petrified" and rooted to the spot when they FINALLY come-across one of them, ya know? I don't know about you, but I saw something like that, the LAST thing I would do is leave ANYTHING to speculation.........I "think" I saw something........but I'm to scared to say EXACTLY what I saw beacuse I only got a partial or far-off look at it...that defeats the whole purpose of being able to look a "skeptic" in the eye and say that you know FOR SURE and beyond a shadow of a doubt......scared to chase a legend?.....that would just be one a**-kickin' I would have to take!!!
indeed
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but I saw something like that, the LAST thing I would do is leave ANYTHING to speculation.........I "think" I saw something

And being open to sudgestion about what they saw and a normal explanation of a misidentification makes them totally wrong not and not thinking about evidance given to the opposit blink.gif


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that defeats the whole purpose of being able to look a "skeptic" in the eye and say that you know FOR SURE and beyond a shadow of a doubt......scared to chase a legend?.....that would just be one a**-kickin' I would have to take!!!


grin2.gif Guess you dont know my peers and friends sleepy.gif
~Onyx~
QUOTE(indeed @ Aug 24 2006, 01:14 PM) [snapback]1320239[/snapback]

And being open to sudgestion about what they saw and a normal explanation of a misidentification makes them totally wrong not and not thinking about evidance given to the opposit blink.gif


Sorry, I diddn't follow you here.
~Onyx~
QUOTE(indeed @ Aug 24 2006, 01:14 PM) [snapback]1320239[/snapback]

grin2.gif Guess you dont know my peers and friends sleepy.gif


Maybe it's just me....maybe it's just false bravado born of frustration....but to have the subject of soooooooo much speculation and conjecture RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME!!!!....to have the opportunity to end that speculation once and for all...that's just an opportunity that you cannot let go by.
indeed
Basiclly your saying that someone who said they saw something, that if their open to debate on what they saw is full of crap w00t.gif

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but I saw something like that, the LAST thing I would do is leave ANYTHING to speculation.........I "think" I saw something


Ive seen something twice. I think I know what it is .....
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