Ok, so, I've been sitting on this one for about 2 weeks. It has to do with a house my girlfriend and I were looking at recently.

We had just started to think about buying a house, looking at options within the area (both our families are nearby). We had looked at a number, but none of them fit our requirements (gardens are a deal breaker, I was raised in farm country and she's a horticultarist).

So finally we find one that we really like, at least from outside appearances. Stunning house, beautiful gardens, inground pool, the works. Early 1800s brick federal, I mean gorgeous. I looked at her as we drove up and asked how this was possibly in our price range. Normally in this area a house such as this would be in the 600-800 range, waaay out of our range. This one was only 300. I said it must be a disaster on the inside, or have some serious problems. I was right, just not in the way I thought.

So, she met the realtor and started walking around the gardens, taking the tour. I lagged behind, looking at the outside of the house. Once i looked up, they were quite a ways off, talking about something or another, so I stepped inside, thinking I could find the problem I mentioned before.

The inside was immaculate. High cielings, molding, the whole nine. Long central hallway, crystal fixtures, just stunning. I decided I would buy the house and started walking out towards the front door. This is where things get strange.

As I was walking, I heard heavy footsteps on the second floor, right above my head. I stopped, thinking that someone else was in the house looking at it as well. The footsteps continued, increasing in speed towards the back of the house. Then they stopped and began again, like they were in a loop. They kept running towards the back of the house then starting over, but you didn't hear the footsteps return to the start, just a pause. Like you were hitting rewind and play over and over.

Now, that made me nervous to start. But I, being a dumbass, decided to go check it out. As I started walking up the stairs, I began to feel sicker and sicker. I mentally decided I should turn back, but I couldn't make my body turn around. I just kept walking up the stairs. The footsteps got louder and louder, until I reached the landing, then, they just stopped. But my sick feeling didn't and I kept walking down the hallway to a room.

Then nausea straight hit me- hard. I felt like vomiting, but couldn't make myself go into the room to the bathroom that was attached. Finally, I walked towards it (not wanting to puke on the floor of a strange house). The bathroom door was open, but as I came up to it, the footsteps suddenly returned, running towards the door. The bathroom door then promptly slammed. Just before it slammed, I felt like something ran through me. The nausea hit at an even harder level, causing me to promptly vomit. I'm terribly embarssed to relate this aspect, but I think it is pertinent to the story.

I freaked, completely. Normally, I can keep my cool with this stuff, but this was the most intense one I had felt. Period.

I turned and ran out, near hysterical. I found my girlfriend and the realtor and explained what had happened (much to my deep embarassment). I thought I had finally lost the train, so to speak. My girlfriend was horrified (she'd never seen me like this, hell, I"D never seen me like this). But the realtor just went white, nodded her head, and said, you're the fifth person to have that happen in the house.

Then she told me the back story. Apparently, 10 years ago, a lawyer's wife was killed in the upstairs bathroom by the gardener. She was evicerated, but only after he used garden chemicals to poison her... causing mass vomiting on her part. It was a really brutal murder. Apparently her children came home from school to find her. Perhaps the most dramatic part being that the gardener tripped and fell down the back stairs, and was killed by the fall since he was running so fast towards the back of the house.

I guess that's why the house was so marked down...

This one was by far the most intense haunting I've experienced. There were no visuals (but that makes sense with my empath tendencies).

Let me know what you all think-

Marty

A traumatic emotional event can leave that negative energy behind...not sure what the best plan of action would be...a haunting with something ghostly..an entity... might be persuaded to "go into the light" or wherever it is they go... this seems different. Might need some kind of spiritual cleansing...

Cool story! So are you buying it?

sounded like the begining of Amityville Horror! But then ended better because you didnt buy the house...did you?

I would film the entire experience! Show it to people at parties!

And I'm being serious.

Wow! that gave me chill bumps reading it....what is odd, is i would have still bought the house, and had it blessed, and cleansed, and lived there, with the cheap buying price, couldn't have let that one pass.

Marty...This was clearly another example of your receptiveness, The residual energy of this trauma obviously still very much lingers and possibly her spirit is still grounded there.

I don't know what you have decided on the house but I would consider going for it, you now know why its marked down and this to your advantage if they are having trouble selling.

However...

Do not commit yourself to this house unless you are prepared to get a good medium to cleanse the energy and move the woman on (that's if she still resides) Alot of healing is needed done here and it would be unwise to think you could just put up with it. If that's truely the only problem then it sounds like a good investment.

If you go back, don't go back beaming wide open, remember to use protection ( the bubble of light excersise)

Holy cow. I wonder if it's residual or active.

I can understand why someone normal wouldn't want to buy a house that appears to be so intensely haunted, but I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

I remember having expereiences where heavy nausea set in to the point of almost making me vomit but those experiences usually had something to do with the offending entity being evil, or demonic.

There are several things you might try if you want the house such as a spiritual cleansing, or a blessing, or maybe you could even get a priest to chase away the bad.

If nothing else, I personally would go back with some equipment such as thermal and nightvision cameras, maybe an emf meter, cassette recorder, so forth and so on and try and collect evidence.

But that's me...

the gardener, allways the gardener!!!

Maybe the realtor should offer complimentary exorcisms or cleansings with sale of the house.

It's interesting that the energy is still around. I would think since the gardener got his due, it's more residual than active. Otherwise, why would the wife continue hanging around the house if there wasn't anything unfinished. I'd think she'd want to hang around her children or at least be away from there. Unless someone else killed her...

Well, we decided against it. She's not one for the paranormal. Plus, it mildly freaks me out to be living in a former crime scene. Worth it monetarily, but not emotionally.

Plus, apparently, they have had two priests in, AND a medium before. None were able to pick up on anything, nor did the blessings work apparently. I found that very odd, as normally I would be the first one to bring in a priest. So, who knows whats really going on there.

It only effects some people (I think 5 of us so far) right off the bat, other times (according to the realtor) people buy the house and move in, only to have these haunting type things begin after they have bought the house. She wouldn't tell me how many times the house has flipped in the past 10 years, but her exact words were "A lot".

As for returning with equipment, I highly doubt the realtor would like that. Plus I'm not a field researcher, just book teached here (obvious joke).

--Marty

Any chance the realtor could move the house out to here? My fiance and I are house hunting and it sounds perfect. Besides, with all the chaos that the cats cause, we'd probably not notice any ghostly activity.

Thats a very interesting concept Ivy. That would explain the failure of blessings and the continuation of a active haunting.

Apparently there wasn't much of an investigation either, they just assumed it was the gardener.

Odd.

Though, it probably was the gardener.

I think I would have bought the house anyway. Removing the spirit is cheaper.
Blessing will not always work either.

I dunno, cost is not something I usually consider when talking about cleansing a house.

A proper cleansing and spirit rescue by a proper medium would work through getting in touch with the residual energy and spirit. Obviously the ones that have tryed before didn't as they couldn't pick anything up, so no suprise it didn't work...

I dunno, I personally go with the religion route myself, but that's just me. I was surprised to hear of the ineffectual results.

With an investment like a house...it's better to go with what's more practical... if it makes you feel uncomfortable..then there's probably nothing that will make that feeling go away... it'll always be there in the back of your mind... best to just keep looking... even though it does sound like the deal of a lifetime..

Yes, quite frustrating, trust me. Plus now there is trouble in paradise with this woman... She was pretty freaked out by the whole thing.

You'd best find her a lovely cottage in the country then... preferably non-haunted..

Gosh ,I don't know what to say. All I can say is;thats Awesome and probably terryfying if I were you.

This has residual haunting written all over it. Unfortunately, they're a bit of a sticky wicket, as it were. Having no intelligence to reason with, one finds ones self having to either be able to ignore it, or somehow banish(clear the air, if you will) the emotional energy responsible for the haunting. That being said, an appropriately strong act of Magick would need to be enacted to solve your particular problem. The religious rite of your choice, with the proper level of gnosis, should sofice.

You can a afford $300.000 house? Damn.

If having a Preist bless a house ran off ghosts everytime then, there would be no haunted houses left! Also, why would someone sell a house for half, or less than half, of what it's worth when a simple blessing or clensing would do the trick?

If a ghost is more active with certain families and less active with others, that might explain it but, that would be called a Poltergeist. Once again, if a simple blessing would do the trick...

If it were a poltergiest, the happenings would go with the person(s) associated with them. If that's the case, when they moved to a new house, they would know that the first house is not itself haunted because the happenings moved with them. Why sell the UN-haunted house so much less than market value?

Anyhow, I'm Jewish. I say buy the house and call a Rabbi. If that doesn't do it, charge the little "Momzer" rent!

Well that is a creepy story. I would not personaly bother bying the house, its seems to much of a hassel for the big possiblity of cleansing not to work. One idea is that it could not be residual energy at all. It for all we could guess be happening in real time like the future being able to see the past like a flaw in the flow of time. that would take a little more then a priest to fix. Even the residual energy aspect would I think would be a tough one to since you would need some one or some thing to be able to find the right frequency of energy if that makes any sense. if you cant find that right spot you will not be able to remove it. you said that they has mediums come in that could not sense a damn thing but you can, so the mediums are not able to hit that right enery spot. they might vibrate diffferently.

go back and take a big douce in the bathroom. Thatll scare the ghosts off.

Yep, didn't buy the house. Actually, the girl got so freaked by the whole thing that we split up. Oh well, lol. Good thing I didn't put a downpaymet, lol.

Regardless, I agree, there is something with a little more tenacity going on there. Interesting none the less.

Evicerated? OUCH!!

I would imagine there is more going on there- the mere thought of someone be done that way (disemboweled), and the rest to boot, who would/ could rest at peace-?-

I hope that most sales people in real estate would be honest enough to tell folks that, seems like that would be an absolute deterrent from a sale... imo.

Hi Marty,

Very interesting stories you've shared as i came across your thread. Did you happened to have taken a photo of the house that you might be able to share with us? Anyhow a very tragedy story about the lady(lawyers wife) due to the brutal murder by the gardener.

Personally im a buddhist my self, and if you religiously believed in buddhism you might know the reality of the nature of human whether its death or survive. Im not quite sure if you believed in past life(karma, im not quite sure if its the english term for it), whether you become a human or an animal after death it really depends on how you act when you still live. Another words if you murder someone you made a sinful act and if do good things you might have a chance to become a human. Any how my knowledge about all of these thing is very elementary so i have to ask my dad, so do take full credits on my theory its only basic knowledge of it.

With the part where some member just pointed out or was it you i forgot it, where two priests had blessed the house and still no fruitful result. I think i can sort of answer that, after a death of a person caused by external force(murder by someone) the avengeful memory still retained with the spirit and i mean very intense revenge memory still retains with the spirit therefore no matter how many priests blessed it, still does not affect it at all.

Wookie, scary story. Might use it on a camping trip next year.

Whats the address? Lets see if we can do some research and maybe see some pics of the place.

Pretty creppy story. You should buy it and rent it out. Just have music playing inside when you show it.

Native Girl,
Hey there what's up? I just wanted to tell you that it is a scary thing? But even though that lady that own the house should have not try to sell it she should bured it or something not try to sell. Cause you never know what ghost's would do to other people Plus that lady should have been ashamed of herself for tring to sell that house But that would have been scary Well I really hope you didn't buy the house

Native Girl
So how scary are the stories or what ever you are talking about???????

Sorry NG - I have no idea what you are talking about. I was refering to the OP.

Location..location...location..........and no disembowelment.

That's all we girls want really. And a white picket fence.

Sheeeeeeeeeeeesh....give 'em an inch and they want a yard.....with a white picket fence.

lmao. Ya know, I didn't buy the house and the girl and I broke up over the 'incident' as she calls it, lol.

Yeah, no disembowlment would be preferrable.

Still laughing my a$$ off.

_wookie

I read somewhere that in California it's against the law to sell a house that's supposed to be haunted without letting the potential buyers know. Also, Wookie, when you became nauseous in the house was there a sickeningly sweet smell? The reason I ask is years ago, I woke up smelling something like roses, only really overpowering. It seemed to follow me around all day, even outside. Since then, I've read that this is often a sign of demonic activity. Take Care...

I smell roses just before a migraine headache starts. It's called a migraine aura.....some people see flashing lights, some smell certain odours. For me it's roses. The pain can seem demonic though!

Cleansings probly wouldn’t work here. This might be more of an energy problem then a spiritual problem. Theory’s of some hunting’s not actually being real hunting’s. Events like that one are more like Xeroxes of emotion and energy of the traumatic event not actual sprits. Because all those feels and emotion was left behind when you started going towards the point of even you would feel the emotions as they happened. The steps and the slamming of the door was the point of climax where the even ended. Leaving any other entity with emotion to feel and experience what happened when they reach that point. In this case you would need some one who deals in Chi and energy flow.

Well, no, there was no smell. In addition, I don't see how this could be related to demonic activity, doesn't fit the differential diagnosis at all. Be careful where you do your reading on such matters, there is a lot of misinformation floating around.

In addition, the house fit perfect qualifications as set up by IPR for a haunting, whether it is just energy as you postulate or either spirits or ghosts.

I highly doubt a Chi expert could do much with a probable residual haunting.

Personally I havent read or heard about roses being the smell of demonic activity. Do not know where you read or what you have researched, but whoever suggested that has their head in the sand

Can you say "Amityville"?

I agree that the smell of roses has no connection to demonic activity - I also propose that a energy cleansing could get rid of the bad energy be it residual or spiritual. If I had wanted to, I would have bought that house and cleansed it and lived in it quite alright!

You guys are yap yap yaping away about this "residual," "energy," and "spiritual," thingaroo..and it seems Im the only one asking what are ya'll talking about? OK, so i'm behind the terms in ghost and stuff.
But, someone let me in--
From my kindegarden ghost 101 class of experience...LOL, well, I would think if something so traumatic/ brutally evil happend to someone, unrestful, unfinished she would linger. Her spirit. So, this other, i'm confused. Maybe way off track, but wouldn't the emotion leave with the spirit if the spirit did leave?

This is where residual energy and 'ghosts' differ from active spirit acitivity.

The spirit can move on, be moved on, but the energy of the traumatic event remains imprinted in the astmosphere, this is known as residual energy. This can play out when conditions are right....It's possible IMO to cleanse the residual energy as well, the spirit and residual energy are 2 different things....Hope this helps

Sweet and to the point.. couldnt say it any beter my self

I have always thought of residual energy "hauntings" like this, the earth has a magnetic field, no question about that. When you used a tape recorder with tape (you know those ancient prehistoric things before the digital age ) the audio was "recorded" on the magnetic tape. To me a residual haunting is very easily explained as a magnetic "tape recording" of the very traumatic (hence high energy output) events that happened. Of course this is just my interpretation.