Anyone with any knowledge of the port arthur massacre read this article and then tell me it does not make you feel sick. Some person actually went to the effort to write something trying to exonerate probably the worst murderer in Australias history.

Whoever wrote this deserves to be beaten for every tear shed by the victims of this evil, madman.

Martin Bryant is the worst human being that Australia has ever seen and no twisting and distortion of the truth can change that

Bryant

A friend had a small book on the Port Arthur Massacre which was a conspiracy theory,that Martyn Bryant was not physically able to do what he did in the certain time frame with such accuracy. The conspiracy theory was that it was a setup to change gun laws, to disarm Australia so we would be less resistant to the Chinese in a future World War or something along those lines. You are always going to get believers and disbelievers with anything i wouldn't take to much offence to it.

The person that wrote that writes like a conspiracy nut if you ask me.

BIG time conspiracy nut....

Nothing quite like a mother's love, is there?

Yeah but in this case there IS no conspiracy, people say that it was to allow new gun laws in but there wasn't REALLY a push for new gun laws anyway, they weren't really an issue until after Port Arthur.

I don't use the word evil very often but i think that of all people it applies to Bryant. I personally think a bullet in the head would be a great benifit to the world in this case, hell i will even provide the bullet

Yeah i know what you mean.
I can't understand how he was able to kill so many people so easliy. You'd think someone would have ran him over or something while he was on his rampage throughout the town.

I do believe I've read worse...

Seems like a conspiracy to me as well. *shrugs*

I just mean that the guy who wrote it was looking for a conspiracy, not that there was necessarily one there. The author sounds like a fruit loop.

I suppose some people like to be different.... but jeeze... that was sick. Being an Australian, I concurr with AtlantisRises... I would happily shoot Bryant in the head.

I'll hold him still for you.

What would you like to know about Port Arthur, i can supply you with FACTS from the official documents to show that Bryant could not have possibly done all or perhaps any of what was attributed to him on the day.

For example, the first volleys of shots in the vicinity were at Seascape at 10:40am on the morning of the massacre, while Bryant was still enroute and some 75 odd kilometres from arrival!

I dont understand how you cant of forgiven him by now though. I mean... he was insane.. and he did a crazy thing... but he is still someones son you know.

Anyway I mainly wanted to say that its a great place to wander around by yourself at night. I dare ya! Like I jumped the fence after the last ghost tour had finished(i went in alone around midnight).. and it really was very very freaky. So if anyone goes there, try going in alone around midnight and you'll see what I mean. Head towards the seperate prison.

Are you crazy? How can you reccomend this? I went there with my family last year, and we too went on the Ghost Tour. We had this nut with us who thought it was funny to jump out behind me in the solitary confinement units (I didn't know him, and was only 15 at the time. My god, did my Mum rip into him) Anyway, we were staying at the units at the top of the port, meaning we had to walk by the church. I swear that place is haunted, it was like glowing in the middle of the night!

Very good ghost tour, though. Still get chills about it.

It's like a dare. To see if anyone else can make it to the Seperate Prison, because it sure took me awhile. That place was amazing hey... you should see it when they lock the doors/gates after the tour.. it takes on a whole different feel. Like there was no way I was putting my hand through the bars hey.. lol. And I sure didnt want to make a sound. I also took my video camera in for some blair witch kinda action. Its pretty cool because it captured the vibe of the place quite well.


Yeah its not the best place to jump out on someone hey.. especially in the seperate prison(solitary with a twist). I went there about two years ago now and I think we stayed in the same units because we were very close. But yeah.. I didnt really believe in ghosts much until going there. An ex girlfriend took some pictures too, which were showing smoke where none should be, which was a trip.

Anyway... thats my plug for tourism.

What right has he for "Forgiveness" he committed his crime, were he sane or not, such a crime can NEVER be forgiven.

While a single person grieves for those people he slew, while a single person feels the pain of his crimes he can NOT be forgiven.

He slew men, women and children. How can you he be forgiven for this.

Such a person as he should burn in hell for ever.

I dont think the mentally ill(especially)should burn forever for their moments and mistakes in their insanity in this world. For that would be insane.

But bascially, in the end you either forgive or you dont.... and one will bring you more happiness. And its not by holding a grudge against another for his sins that happiness is found, imo.

Geez no one seems to want to know anything from me about the FACTS that prove the public has been fed a load of nonsense about Port Arthur...

Does it not concern you that an innocent man is in Gaol for something he never confessed to, never got a trial, never proved he was at the Historic Site, or that 35 Inquests were waived contrare to the Coroners Act

Or that eyewitnesses described another person, or that James Laycock stated emphatically it was NOT Martin Bryant.

And who was the dark haired man running naked at Seascape as soon as the gunman arrived, damn sure it was not fair haired Bryant......... it was the shooter who had just disposed of the Bryant disguise in the burning BMW

But if no one wants to know, fine, you can discuss nonsense about night tours all you like!

Ok tell us all the facts then. Sorry if you were waiting to be asked.

Personally I havent followed the story that much, so I cant really comment on any of that. And I didnt follow the trial that much either. But what youve said sounds interesting, because at the time the public was so angry that it wouldnt surprise me that he didnt get a fair trial.


Hey dont bag the ghost tour! What kind of Australian are you!? And there was only a few posts about that, so I dont understand why you wanna jump on it. Well I kinda do.

But anyway.

So, Kazahel, did you hear the story about the rat in the surgery? ....



I honestly think that he did get a fair trial. And while he be mentally unstable, I dont think that this is any excuse to take away so many people's lives.
It made me sick to hear about it...some family friends where actually ther during the shooting - they say that it will haunt them forever (as you would expect!)

waste of time posting here when someone posts trash like this ........"I honestly think that he did get a fair trial. And while he be mentally unstable, I dont think that this is any excuse to take away so many people's lives.
It made me sick to hear about it...some family friends where actually ther during the shooting - they say that it will haunt them forever (as you would expect!)"

read the posts before you make yourself look silly............i told you there was NO trial ..sheesh

Yeah.. that was pretty cool hey.. it kinda made me jump!

Martin Bryant pled guilty at the hearing therefore there was no reason for a trial.
Easy as that
I find it very hard to believe that there could be a conspiracy or whatever in regards to the whole thing. Martin Bryant was an unstable person who went on a killing spree. And thats all.

In fact it was Bryants second lawyer John Avery took many visits to Risdon Prison to make Bryant change his plea.
Avery was NOT acting for his client, but for the DPP
He was well rewarded for his treachery.

Noelozzy, I believe that it was not Martin Bryant too. Maybe these people who don't believe it just are not informed enough. The sheep will get eaten by the wolves. But maybe when I can extract our gun from the steel gun safe bolted to the floor and then get the bolt back in the gun in time and then find the ammo in a seperate locked area and load it, maybe I will be able to protect myself from the wolves...gun reform laws were in place way before the Port Arthur massacre, don't you doubt it, be alert, be alarmed, be armed.

More concerned with restrictive gun laws than with dead gun victims?
Does Robert Edwards agree with you?

I think anyone who actually seriously thinks that Martin bryant actually commited the port arther massacre is just silly and uninformed.

Port Arthur Cover Up

NO INQUIRY


It has been suggested that a full inquiry into the Port Arthur
massacre has taken place. This is not true. There was not even a Coronial
Inquiry although there should have been one. A Coronial Inquiry is required


(a) When foreign nationals are killed


( When there are deaths by fire


Thus there was at least a double reason to hold a Coronial
Inquiry. So why was the law broken to prohibit the inquiry?



MARTIN BRYANT - GENIUS


If one accepts the official Tasmanian Police and DPP line
Martin Bryant can only be regarded as a GENIUS - displaying the skill and
cunning of a criminal mastermind unparalleled in world history.


Martin Bryant had such intelligence information and timed
things so well as to wait until a whole series of things were in place
just before, on, or slightly after the 28th April.


1. He got the Tasmanian authorities to have a 22-body morgue truck
available for his handiwork.


2. He organised for senior Port Arthur staff to go away on a Work Seminar
so they wouldn't get hurt.


3. He managed to get Royal Hobart Hospital to have their Emergency Plan in
place two days before the massacre so things would run smoothly.


4. He managed to get Hobart Hospital to have a Trauma Seminar timed to end
at the exact moment he started shooting so they could patch up all the
wounded quickly.


5. He arranged for helicopter pilots - usually unavailable - to be
available that Sunday.


6. He managed to kill the Martins of Seascape with a firearm when he was
at a service station 57 kilometres away.


7. He decoyed the local police to be at the opposite end of the peninsula
at the exact moment the shooting began.


8. He managed to fool staff at the Historic Site into believing he
arrived at 1.15pm when in fact he was there at 12.45pm.


9. He managed not to look like himself - as if wearing a woman's wig -
when being filmed in the car park by tourists.


10. He wore a face mask making his face look pockmarked when shooting in
the cafe.


11. He arranged for a suspect black van to appear outside the Broad Arrow
Cafe afterwards so people wouldn't think it was him who did it.


12. He managed to get Sally Martin to run around Seascape naked that
afternoon and make it appear she had been killed that morning.


13. He managed to shoot a rifle from upstairs at Seascape when he was
downstairs talking to police on the phone.


14. He had infrared night vision eyes.


15. He managed to shoot from two Seascape buildings at once during the
night of the siege.


16. He managed to stay in a heavily burning building shooting and yelling
at police and get severe burns only on his back.


17. He managed to have the world press to have a convention in Hobart on
the 30th April so there were plenty of reporters on hand so he would get
better than usual media coverage.


18. He managed to make it appear ASIO was behind the incident.


19. He managed to make it appear Tasmania Police had fabricated and
tampered with evidence.


20. He managed to get the Tasmanian DPP lie to the Court about his
activities.


21. He arranged for the media nationwide to display his photo to
witnesses to influence them; and to print false stories about him and get
Channel Nine


To fabricate a video - all while in custody.


22. He fired two shots at 6.30pm at Port Arthur while he was under siege
by police at Seascape.


23. If you believe the official version, his marksmanship was fantastic -
twenty head shots, from the right hip, in 90 seconds! There are only
about 100 shooters that good (better than Olympians) in the world. They
are the SPOOKS who work for various governments.


THE CONFESSION


He managed to get himself convicted of murder and get life. He confessed
after being held in solitary confinement for at least ten times the
maximum allowable as punishment in war under the Geneva Convention. The
deal was that he got a TV set in his room. After that much solitary men
go mad or confess to anything. Bryant was mentally retarded.


WAS THERE A TRIAL


There was no trial. Just torture (28 days sensory deprivation
which is illegal) and the confession. There is enough material for
investigators to believe he is innocent.


MARTY WAS THE DUMMY CHOSEN TO TAKE THE RAP


When you add up all these things and a lot more not listed
above, it is impossible for a reasonable person to come to the conclusion
Bryant was behind this incident - that it was him doing the shooting and
that others weren't involved and that a setup and cover-up hasn't
occurred.


Those who were prepared to leave him to burn to death in
Seascape saw Martin Bryant as expendable.


WITNESSES SPEAK OUT


Wendy Scurr, the lady who called the police while under fire
has toured Australia pleading for a trial for Bryant. She held the phone
out the window so the police could better hear the shot to be convinced
that there was a massacre going on.


WITNESSES GAGGED


Scores of other witnesses can't understand why the media
reports differ greatly from what they saw and heard. The eye witnesses
can't understand why their testimony recorded by police was not used.
Even the police can see that the bulk of evidence points to others.


UNFIT TO EVEN PLEAD


Bryant is so retarded he might know what guilty means but he
would not have a clue as to the implications of a guilty plea. There are
grounds for a trial, a first trial with evidence presented to a jury.


CATCH 22 - SO NO APPEAL


Appeal is impossible now because even a QC can't get access to
Bryant because the prison officers say he doesn't want visitors. Even
Bryant's mother can't get to see him. We only have the prison officers'
word that he doesn't want visitors. From all other skullduggery - why
should they be believed?


EVIDENCE DESTROYED


All evidence of the shooting was removed from the building to
make it a sacred site. This is a standard procedure when the government
does a sting. Remember Waco, Oklahoma, Twin Towers 9-11 etc.


PLEASE DO SOMETHING


Send this everywhere. Give it to police, politicians, media
etc. Some will squirm - too gutless to think for themselves. We might
light a spark of integrity in some and perhaps get the boy a trial...


Lodge an official complaint that there is a Federal crime being committed.
Lodge an official complaint with the Tasmanian police that government
officials are party to a conspiracy to frame Bryant. Request a full
investigation by the Crime and Misconduct Commission into the BRIBING of
the states with promises of diesel subsidies and THREATS to cut state
funding It is a crime to offer inducements or threats to influence
representative in how to vote. I have a letter signed by a Tasmanian
Senator saying they were blackmailed into passing Howard's gun laws. This
I have passed on to the AFP. They are party to a conspiracy because, even
with irrefutable evidence that the states were blackmailed to would not
press charges. They must prtess charges. Then it is up to the courts to
decide guilt or innocence


When politicians appoint police you cane expect corrupt police and bent
screws.


Send this everywhere so all recipients can sent it everywhere - until
justice is done.


Tony Pitt


http://www.users.bigpond.com/tonypitt/id123.htm

Finally someone who at least tests the depth of the water before diving in.

Hardly........and thanks for opening my eyes as to who Robert Edwards is...now it makes more sense than ever. Free Martin Bryant! Thanks also brave new world for adding all the info so people can see how much of a set up this was. Ive been on the other Bryant forum and missed some of the info put up on this forum. Some people will never accept that is was not Martin Bryant but the more people we can inform the better.

I couldn't have said it any better Dahlia

I am happy to pay taxes to keep him locked up for the rest of his life

With all due respect B D & cheza,...are you sure it was Bryant who pleaded guilty or his weasel lawyer 'whispering' in his ear.(top link)
Funny how he(Bryant) protested his innocence right up until 'only two weeks' before his trial.
I want to see an end to this dark saga in Australia's history as much as the next guy, but if we start believing everything the 'mainstream media' flush out to us without at least questioning some of the 'suspect official stories' to this case then we may all just as well walk around with blindfolds and ear plugs an be led around on a leash.
Again i'm not saying Bryant is completely innocent.
I know i said i'd call it a day on this topic, but this time i'm sure...i think.


http://www.shootersnews.addr.com/MB%20guilty%20plea.htm

http://home.overflow.net.au/~nedwood/portarthur.html

http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/MartinBryant3.html

He actually pled Not Guilty at his first hearing and the court rejected his plea. He only changed it to guilty after months in solitary confinement, wonder what happened in there to make him change his mind, one can only imagine. He still to this day denies being at Port Arthur on that day of the massacre. Personally I don't care if you think he's innocent or not but when an actual eyewitness (Wendy Scurr) travels the country for years trying to get Martin Bryant a fair trial because she says as do most of the eyewitness that it was not him, it is cause for someone to look into it more. Have you done any research on this at all, I have and if you do you may be shocked at what you find out. And Rebel yeah I know I said over and out too but I can't help but try to make people more aware of the situation, it could be any one of us next. How many people thought Hurricane Carter or Lindy Chamberlain was guilty?

I hear exactly where ya coming from weareallsuckers...i just keep getting sucked in. lol!
You also made some very good solid points.

Thats it!... best wishes & take care all.

Rebel out.

Good post mate. My deepest sympathies to Martin Bryant. Amazes me how many people jump to the conclusion it was him simply because the media told them so. I basicaly believe nothing the media tell me these days i.e the global warming debate etc. A saying by Malcom X comes to mind when I see how people wrongly accuse Martin Bryant of being guilty: The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. Because they control the minds of the masses.

Good to see all this support for Martin Bryant though. I only wish people payed as much attention to him as they did Schapel Corby and David Hicks. Feel hopeless overall at the situation. I don't see Martin coming out any time soon. But I'll never be afraid to stick up for him in an argument in public or whereva.