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Lionel
user posted imageAstronomers have compiled the largest, most detailed map of the Universe so far and believe that it shows beyond doubt the presence of an all-pervading "dark energy" throughout the cosmos. The three-dimensional map contains 200,000 galaxies and covers six per cent of the sky. The furthest galaxies in the map are two billion light years away. Such maps are invaluable because the large-scale structure of the Universe reveals the interplay of cosmic forces during the last 13 billion years. The new map comes from the Sloan Digital Sky Survey (SDSS), an international collaboration of over 200 astronomers at 13 institutes around the world. To build the map, astronomers first identified individual galaxies on wide-angle pictures taken by the SDSS's 2.5-metre telescope at Apache Point Observatory, New Mexico.

Next, they used the telescope's special fibre optic system to record the spectra of up to 608 galaxies at a time, allowing them to calculate each galaxy's distance and fix its position within the 3D map.

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TheLight
I have to react to this one. The says the map shows the presence of a dark energy, some also refer to it as dark matter. Can't they simply say that the current cosmological model can't account for the rotation speed of the galaxies ? They just try to put dark matter here and there such that the current model still fits observations... A theory is true until proven wrong and our current understanding of the universe is soon going to be proven wrong.
von brandenberg
Dark Matter and dark energy are two distinct things. This 3d map would seem to suggest that the universe is 5% atoms, 25% dark matter and 75% dark energy.
(see http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap031028.html)
TheLight
Matter is energy, E=mc2. Anyway that's two ways of explaining that the current model is inadequate.
Sirius
Please do your homework before making such comments as that E=MC2 explains why this model is inaccurate. Yes, it is correct that theories are CONSIDERED true until proven wrong but note the usage of the word 'THEORY'. Maybe you need to brush up on your knowledge of dark energy/matter AND Einsteins THEORY of Relativity. To do this I have included a link to a site where it has been explained a little more simply than you might be used to.

http://astron.berkeley.edu/~mwhite/darkmatter/dm.html
hyperactivemode02
its possible that our universe has another life forms besides to us bcoz how can only US be the only beings living in this universe?Im pretty sure their is other beings out there maybe even 2 or 1 theirs got to be one for sure...
TheLight
QUOTE (Sirius @ Nov 4 2003, 07:08 AM)
Please do your homework before making such comments as that E=MC2 explains why this model is inaccurate. Yes, it is correct that theories are CONSIDERED true until proven wrong but note the usage of the word 'THEORY'. Maybe you need to brush up on your knowledge of dark energy/matter AND Einsteins THEORY of Relativity. To do this I have included a link to a site where it has been explained a little more simply than you might be used to.

http://astron.berkeley.edu/~mwhite/darkmatter/dm.html

Don't worry about my homework ! lol ! I just put E=mc2 to explain the equivalence energy-mass to respond to the difference dark matter/dark energy.
On the dark matter side, we use dark matter to skew our universe model to account for the rotation speed of galaxies. So basically it can be either the model that is false or either dark matter exists and the model is right. What I don't like in dark matter is its lack of prediction, basically when astronomers find a galaxy rotating too fast, they just put some dark matter here and there to account for the rotation speed. The same holds for gravitational lense effects. Dark matter is to cosmology what string theory is to quatuum physics, in other words a philosophy that needs to predict something before being called a theory.

So based on what facts do you think I need to brush on my knowledge of dark matter or Einstein theory of relativity ?

TheLight
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