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Thozzman
I have no idea if this is authentic or not but it freaked me out really good.
It may have been posted before and if it has I apoligize.
Three teens joyriding in Portugal pick up a hitchiking ghost girl.
Towards the end you'll see her pointing at the spot where she says:
translated: "That's the spot over there where I was killed."

Also notice how the camera screws up when ever it's pointed in her direction.
The driver and passenger in the car were killed, the camera guy survived.

Parts of this clip were used on the evening news in Portugal.

Fake or real, it's very freaky.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgtaUxudv44
DelVal Paranormal
QUOTE(Thozzman @ Aug 29 2006, 06:21 AM) [snapback]1326316[/snapback]

I have no idea if this is authentic or not but it freaked me out really good.
It may have been posted before and if it has I apoligize.
Three teens joyriding in Portugal pick up a hitchiking ghost girl.
Towards the end you'll see her pointing at the spot where she says:
translated: "That's the spot over there where I was killed."

Also notice how the camera screws up when ever it's pointed in her direction.
The driver and passenger in the car were killed, the camera guy survived.

Parts of this clip were used on the evening news in Portugal.

Fake or real, it's very freaky.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgtaUxudv44


haha, well its almost 6:30am where i am and i just got off work... I'm def. not watching that video until this afternoon devil.gif
Samo
A very creepy video but it could very easily have been staged, I mean we all saw how good the Portuguise are at acting in the World cup! grin2.gif
Carla
Hmm seemed pretty fake to me. I don’t see why her face would jizz out like that every time the camera looked at her. The sound effects sounded like low budget horror movie. Although I don’t have a clue what they were saying or what the credits said, so ya know. Just my opinion.
samanthauk23
QUOTE(Carla @ Aug 29 2006, 12:59 PM) [snapback]1326359[/snapback]

Hmm seemed pretty fake to me. I don’t see why her face would jizz out like that every time the camera looked at her. The sound effects sounded like low budget horror movie. Although I don’t have a clue what they were saying or what the credits said, so ya know. Just my opinion.


Hmm, I found that a few days ago on youtube, but didn't post it for fear of being laughed off the forum.... you know, fake, staged, blah blah blink.gif

Where did you find out about it being on the news and the survivor etc??
distortedpandy
I also found this on youtube, and well...yes, I giggled. yes.gif
Barb
Hi.
That's video it's very scary.
Do you noticed that this girl at the end of video has a spot on the ace ? Just before the video end blink.gif

Pandy - why do you think it's fake ?
distortedpandy
QUOTE(Barb @ Aug 29 2006, 09:17 AM) [snapback]1326430[/snapback]

Pandy - why do you think it's fake ?


Read Carla's reply...thats pretty much is my reason as well thumbsup.gif
Barb
I found this with english subtitles:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=sF7mh1dgJ2k&...ted&search=

Bandersnatch
Isn't the ghost hitchhiker a fairly well known Urban Legand?
Carla
Barb thanks for posting that with the subtitles
Reading the subtitles It seems even more fake. It seems to me there trying to do a Texas chain saw massacre/supernatural/Blair witch project spin off. The storyline is very predictable to me and the sound effects are terrible. I don’t see how they would crash with such little screaming and the car goes completely silent. I mean the camera is still running perfect but two people died makes no sense to me.
Barb
QUOTE(Carla @ Aug 29 2006, 02:07 PM) [snapback]1326482[/snapback]

I mean the camera is still running perfect but two people died makes no sense to me.


I agree it's really strange. Why the camera didn't crash ?!
Қain
The credits said the cops discovered that in 1983 a girl by the name of Teresa Fidalgo did indeed have an accident and died in that same spot. But then again, to prove the validity of the video can't the cops look at the face of the hitchhiker and see if it matches up with that of the real Teresa Fidalgo?
Trinitrotoluene
Almost definitely a fake. The sound effect and camera effect used to distort are obviously filters and are not indicative of actual distortion on a camera. The camera work at the end is shady as well. If it killed all people in the car the camera would have been ejected through the windowscreen.
parsonjar
i wish i would have watched it without subtitles. that sucked.
amybutts
This just proves urban legends are universal.
Tell Them Willie Boy Is Here
Watched this video with and without subtitles. I feel it has a genuine flow to the conversation and event's. It would help to know the facts of the aftermath of the current accident and see photos of the car. Did it flip over or hit a tree or another car?? Did Teresa make the accident happen by being in the car???
Uncertain on my final opinion, yet feel no hoax with this video as presented.
Daniella2310
Fake. If they showed a pic of the real girl who died on 83 and then compared it with the girl in the car, I would believe it.


I tried to watch it without subtitles but the accent threw me off tongue.gif ( I know portuguese but the one from Brasil...I know its ALMOST the same but there are some different things, starting with the accent)
Wookie McFly
It's a fake. The camera distortions when the girl first gets into the car are not achieveable on a digital video recorder like they are using... See how it seems like each frame gets stuck or something along those lines? That's a filter that you can put on digital to make it look like film. Once they seperated the various pixelsations into frames, all they had to do was slow them down, while rendering the sound to remain constant. A rookie trick.

The way they pan to the girl right as she screams is also fake, along with the car flip itself. All they did was drop the camera and add sound effects.

This type of crash (which was depicted) is impossible without causing insane lateral pressures (10 and 20 times the force of gravity). In addition, notice how the camera stays on the floor? If they were rolling (which is what was implied) then it would have gone all over the place. In addition, the whole accident is too short. Even a full frontal impact would have lasted longer etc etc.

Scared the hell out of me though when it first happened... lol.

A good student film, nothing more, nothing less.
boorite
There's tons of point-of-view footage of rollover accidents on the net, and none of it looks like this. grin2.gif Good acting from everyone but ghost girl though.
NoahJaymes
I agree, with marty and boorite....they coulda left the filter out, it was like something off of the Ring or something. Im pretty sure the accident would have caused a lot more debrit and so on. Also, the accident would moreless caused the camera to either break, or some how messed up the image some how during impact.

Ghost girl was cute, except when she screamed with stuff on her face lol
Spunned
god, that's fake...
NME_locus
QUOTE(amybutts @ Aug 29 2006, 04:11 PM) [snapback]1326626[/snapback]

This just proves urban legends are universal.

LOL... agreed. I love how they added the sound effects everytime the camera went on the fritz. Classic spook sounds.
boorite
There is a "ghost girl" hitchhiker story that has more substance behind it than what you'd call an urban legend-- "Resurrection Mary," in the Chicago area.
_Nyx_
I will admit I jumped a bit...only because it was so long and my attention started to wane...I watched it again and I believe it's fake. I will, however, send it to a couple of people that will definitely shriek or at least jump out of their chairs... innocent.gif
Mysterious Molecules
A very very spooky fake though wink2.gif

Loved it grin2.gif
VonDäniken
Scared me...as these things usually do...looks fake though..but I dunno... blush.gif
The Dark Knight
I am gonna say fake but thats not 100%.Did anyone know what happened to the people they say died or anything?
Daniella2310
They said that to give a blair witch/mcpherson video feeling to it yes.gif
samanthauk23
QUOTE(amybutts @ Aug 29 2006, 05:11 PM) [snapback]1326626[/snapback]

This just proves urban legends are universal.


I object

(hehe)
Coraxx
haha. had me laughing tongue.gif
samanthauk23
Laaarf! Gotta amuse myself (and you) seeing as I can't sleep tonight! rofl.gif
NoahJaymes
QUOTE(The Dark Knight @ Aug 29 2006, 05:47 PM) [snapback]1327121[/snapback]

I am gonna say fake but thats not 100%.Did anyone know what happened to the people they say died or anything?


Supposedly, the two in the front died, the guy videotaping lived but couldnt explain the accident, and furthermore,

AWESOME SIG OF JOE "MR CLUTCH" CREDE, GO CHISOX!
Coraxx
vleh i cant sleep.


cause i laugh so hard rofl.gif rofl.gif
boorite
QUOTE(Marty Floyd @ Aug 29 2006, 05:31 PM) [snapback]1326703[/snapback]

This type of crash (which was depicted) is impossible without causing insane lateral pressures (10 and 20 times the force of gravity).


What lateral pressures?

Oh, you mean THESE lateral pressures.

Here's what the camera sees in a spinout/rollover crash. (If the camera's mounted on something.)

Can you tell the difference between those rollovers and this fake one?
Lizard_King
Real or fake that was pretty spooky. Though maybe a little Blair Witch Project-ish and melodramatic.

GHOST: Do you see that spot over there?
DRIVER: Yes
GHOST: Thats where I had an accident..........and DIED

Kinda B movie there

I can tell u this, that if that video is a fake then its one that someone took some time to produce because as someone that has knowledge of visual effects I can tell u that its not all that easy to get a video camera to do like it did everytime it looked at the "ghost" NOT IMPOSSIBLE but difficult and cant be done "on site" but would have to be done later with a computer or other kind of video editing and effects equipment.

As someone that has also seen "true" ghosts captured on video and several examples where the entities have caused some kind of disturbance with the picture and I have never seen anything like what is shown in this example.
With analog video (VHS) the effect was more of lines across the screen and a type of skipping, kinda like the trackings off. There are some really great examples of this happening when the entity gets closer to the camera.
With digital cameras the effect is (as most of us would naturally guess) the screen will pixalate, again how much sometimes depends on how close the entity is to the camera.

One other thing I would like to know is what are we looking at in the final frames of the video?

The reason I ask is because there is all of this talk about the car ROLLING. It looks to me as though the car possibly impacted something and then skidded into high ditch or culvert and landed on its side.
I completely agree that there was no rolling of the car. It was a crash undoubtedly, a staged one....very possible but there was no rolling.
This would also answer the question of why the camera didnt fly all over the place during the crash but thats why I would like to know what the camera is looking at after the crash, it doesnt answer why it looks like the camera didnt move at all.

Now lets just take it that the video is completely real and following the story that says the driver and the passinger were killed in the accident, could a simple crash into a deep ditch or a concrete culvert kill 2 people....U BET IT COULD....HOWEVER, it is also the EASIEST crash to STAGE.

The blurb at the end of the video said that this girl had an accident and died in that spot in 1983.
First off there needs to be some serious investigation as to whether there was even a crash that killed a young woman by that name in the first place.
IF (and thats a big IF in my opinion) the video is real then there would also have to be other stories about a phantom hitchhiker that would end in much the same results, meaning that there would be a lot of crashes along that stretch of road, wherever that is.




Mysterious Molecules
QUOTE(Lizard_King @ Aug 30 2006, 04:14 AM) [snapback]1327592[/snapback]


I can tell u this, that if that video is a fake then its one that someone took some time to produce because as someone that has knowledge of visual effects I can tell u that its not all that easy to get a video camera to do like it did everytime it looked at the "ghost" NOT IMPOSSIBLE but difficult and cant be done "on site" but would have to be done later with a computer or other kind of video editing and effects equipment.


Hmmm i wouldn't exactly call it difficult with todays editing programs all you need is money for the right software and the rest is pretty much cakes. But yes doing it realtime would both be difficult and pretty... Hehe ... Not smart tongue.gif

It sure didn't take no Wachowski to pull that simple filter off rofl.gif
Wookie McFly
OK, speaking as someone who has extensively edited films over my college career, the effects you talk about at astoundingly easy to do, even on site. The out of focus stuff just means they manually focused. I have already explained the frame effect.

And, as an EMT, who is well aware of the effects, physics, and damage a crash can cause (as I have been first on scene in over 30 of them), especially a fatal one, I can tell you the following realities.

As I have already stated an impact of that magnitude (which if it was fatal, is a pretty god damn large amount of force) would have caused the camera to go through the shield in the case of a frontal impact as you fell happens.

However, the rolling of the camera is meant to suggest that they flipped (a much easier accident to die from at lower speeds).

What about speed you ask? Well, if you pay attention, the fellow's speedometer rarely goes above 45 kil. pr. hr. They were not at terminal velocity at the time of the crash. Thus, a head on at 45 kil (total velocity, they didn't hit another moving object, thus, 45 kil) is not going to kill anyone, unless they have a prior injury or other condition.

In plain and simple terms, what we saw could not have been a double fatality accident.

In addition, the guy with the camera (the one who "lived" I believe) was not wearing his seatbelt, thus, in the event of a real and fatal crash, he would have been the first to die, he would have been flung through the wind.

It's a fake, don't know how to make it any more clear.

--Marty
Mysterious Molecules
QUOTE(Marty Floyd @ Aug 30 2006, 04:27 AM) [snapback]1327620[/snapback]

What about speed you ask? Well, if you pay attention, the fellow's speedometer rarely goes above 45 kil. pr. hr. They were not at terminal velocity at the time of the crash. Thus, a head on at 45 kil (total velocity, they didn't hit another moving object, thus, 45 kil) is not going to kill anyone, unless they have a prior injury or other condition.

--Marty



This is a bad argument, but a girl was actually killed by driving 40km/ph into a tree recently here in Denmark.

It was pretty extraordinary though since the car wasnt really damaged, but she died on the scene. It seems she serverly slammed her head into window and that killed her. :/

I still think the vids a fake i mean common it's too inspired from movies original.gif

Lady Warrior Ravynwynn
Sorry, but when I have seen actual, bodily spirits, that are fully manifesting, they move differently, kind of a wierd flow, and in slower motion. The "hair flip" and all after that made me know it was too fast, and human.
RollingThunder06
It was a great video to watch. Now that I have watched that one I see more that look interesting.
Lizard_King
QUOTE(Ykaedhi Aewee @ Aug 30 2006, 02:44 PM) [snapback]1327658[/snapback]

This is a bad argument, but a girl was actually killed by driving 40km/ph into a tree recently here in Denmark.

It was pretty extraordinary though since the car wasnt really damaged, but she died on the scene. It seems she serverly slammed her head into window and that killed her. :/

I still think the vids a fake i mean common it's too inspired from movies original.gif


I agree.

45 KPH is around 30 MPH give or take. Now Marty, u might be the EMT but I have over 15 years working knowledge of human anatomy and I KNOW that a low speed-NON ROLLING-crash can be fatal.
I know of a case that a friend of mine (a Paramedic) responded to that had three deaths, it really surprised him because the car that was involved wasnt going any faster than 30 to 35 MPH.
Rare and unlikely but IT CAN happen.

As far as the video effects I'll let that one go because I have more experence in stills and animation rather than live action films but I do have knowledge in the effects that spiritual energy can have on both video and digital recordings and I have never seen anything like was on that video. MEANING that I think the effects were man made at the time or added later.
I am in no way saying that I think the video is real. In fact I thought I was making it pretty clear in my post that I thought it was a load of Horses|-||t.
I dont think that was a ghost or the crash was real, or that anyone actually died in that "crash"
Thozzman
Yeah, it's a fake.
I've been in several severe auto accidents and there would be much more screeching and crunching sounds.
It looks like the car merely hits a small bump and turns over!

Also, the dashboard looks completely unharmed and intact, as well as the windshield.
Thought it was fun and spooky though original.gif
Lizard_King
QUOTE(Thozzman @ Aug 30 2006, 04:09 PM) [snapback]1327850[/snapback]

Yeah, it's a fake.
I've been in several severe auto accidents and there would be much more screeching and crunching sounds.
It looks like the car merely hits a small bump and turns over!

Also, the dashboard looks completely unharmed and intact, as well as the windshield.
Thought it was fun and spooky though original.gif


Yeah it was spooky and really fun, thanks for the find Thozzman
Thozzman
QUOTE(Lizard_King @ Aug 30 2006, 12:18 AM) [snapback]1327870[/snapback]

Yeah it was spooky and really fun, thanks for the find Thozzman



You're welcome LK original.gif

I may post some more things in the future that are obviously fake but fun and spooky in the future just to get peoples reactions. w00t.gif


Barb
QUOTE(Lizard_King @ Aug 30 2006, 02:14 AM) [snapback]1327592[/snapback]

As someone that has also seen "true" ghosts captured on video and several examples where the entities have caused some kind of disturbance with the picture and I have never seen anything like what is shown in this example.
With analog video (VHS) the effect was more of lines across the screen and a type of skipping, kinda like the trackings off. There are some really great examples of this happening when the entity gets closer to the camera.
With digital cameras the effect is (as most of us would naturally guess) the screen will pixalate, again how much sometimes depends on how close the entity is to the camera.




Hi.

I'm interested to watch a video with a real ghost, do you have one ? w00t.gif
boggle
QUOTE(Barb @ Aug 30 2006, 07:00 AM) [snapback]1328059[/snapback]

Hi.

I'm interested to watch a video with a real ghost, do you have one ? w00t.gif


the vid seem way too amateurish and their humor within their conversations werent geared towards an "audience". Perhaps they should have stated some jokes more towards an audience at the beginning and middle to keep you from getting bored. There is too long of an intro before getting to the good parts to make this worthwhile as a hoaxed entertainment value vid.
Wookie McFly
All my comments about speed were made with the assumption (which is true from the vid) that they were wearing seatbelts. Of course if you hit something going that fast and you aren't secured then the kenetic energy gets transfered and you get flung into a windshield.

Of course it is possible for a person to die in this circumstance, even with a seatbelt. It's just really really unlikely. In addition, for it to be a double fatality... Virtually unheard of. In addition, 45 kil is the rough max speed, not ness. the impact speed (infact, it makes sense that it would drop drastically, as you can hear brakes being used with serious force). This impact is what we would call a walk away 99.9% of the time. (Unless prior conditions exist).

Read the whole post, I make the seatbelt point in there. Sorry I was not clear in my exact terminology. My whole point with this was not to get into physics of crashes, but just to point out that the damage done on the video could not equte to a double fatality (seatbelts) when the one guy who 'lived' would have been the first to die since he was unrestrained, thus, the video is fake.

And while you may have 15 years of anatomy experience, I had to pass (and did quite well) federal and state board exams on this stuff (a large portion of the test was completely on MOI and impact analysis). Guess who gave the exams? The DOT.

I know of what I speak.
majin nemesis
for some reason i can only see the fisrt 1 min of the entire movie hmm.gif
Mysterious Molecules
Also it's pretty rude to stick a camera in the face of a stranger like that.

It's just an unlikely or odd thing to do.
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