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drew hempel
Well just to help you guys out at http://unexplained-mysteries.com on the whole Einstein Relativity debacle that has happened on this website -- gee he got the Nobel for the photoelectric effect so maybe?

THE REASON THE PHOTON IS WRONG and the SECRET OF ALCHEMY (anti-copyright)

by drew hempel, MA

Here goes. Where the hell does amplitude go anyway when Einstein created the photon particle for light? I mean the amplitude squared for the quanta has brought endless interminal debates on whether quantum mechanics involves an observer or not and what the hell it all means.

In point of fact the real issue is logarithmic science in general because it all comes from Pythagoras and how the sine-wave creates asymmetric time reversal!

Just read "Stalking the Riemann Hypothesis" 2006 for how natural numbers turn into quantum chaos that violates the commutative principle.

Or consider that in basic music theory G to C is 2:3 while C to G is 3:4 and western music "averages" this off into a circle of fifths when in fact the Law of Pythagoras, proven empirically, states it's INFINITE RESONANCE OF 2:3 as alchemical complimentary opposites.

So... as professor Bart Kosko points out in his new book "NOISE" unless the sine-wave is tempered or turned into a logarithmic measurement with frequency then there can be no overcoming the time-frequency uncertainty principle that is crucial to quantum chaos.

Well the problem with this whole creation of frequency to "square the circle" (FREEMASONRY) for AMPLITUDE is that

as demonstrated in the photoelectric effect -- intensity or energy is actually created from frequency (not amplitude which just gives us the number of photons -- according to the new statistical interpretation).

In otherwords there was a DEEP DISHARMONY created when the true Law of Pythagoras was ignored for the purposes of increased amplitude (or technological power better known as logarithmic magnitude as density or intensity).

I should point out that intensity comes from water measurements which are an inherent macro quantum molecule and in fact were running out of water due to this whole Freemasonic amplitude-magnitude-intensity crisis!!

So you can't separate power or amplitude from WAVEFORM which has to be the asymmetrical sinewave that resonates into...

the fourth dimension of space as nonlocal consciousness (yes the PSI WAVE is not just some statistical abstraction but refers to the real ether).

In fact Einstein did return to the ETHER concept for his unified field research but of course he failed for the same reason that everyone else fails.

You can get to the ether through pure logic as inference -- what's the source of the I-thought, as Kurt Godel did (Einstein's best buddy).

Or you can get to the ether through Pythagorean harmonics (as Plato, Ficino, Kepler, Buckyfuller, Tesla, John Keely, Schauberger and others have).

This means that the blackbody spectrum giving the intensity of rainbow light based on logarithmic statistics is really wrong (hence the big problem with astronomy, as Charles Fort points out so well in his book LO!)

Anyway the answer to the photoelectric effect is that frequency is an asymmetrical sinewave so time slows down as the intensity or power is increased.

This is why Newton was against the equal-tempered music scale!! He was also against Galileo's interpretation of Pythagoras because Newton knew that the blacksmith myth covered up the true meaning of mass as INTENSITY.

In otherwords, as professor James Bunn details, it was discovered in the 1960s that Newton got his gravity concept directly from the fact that if you stretch a string with weights to 4 times its length you get twice the frequency. While Galileo claimed that Pythagoras thought the weight of a hammer increased the frequency -- the old blacksmith myth was just a cover story according to Newton -- hiding the deeper alchemical truth. Bournelli then built on Galileo's misunderstanding to create logarithmic statistics which brought us to the ultraviolet catastrophe (supposedly solved by Einstein).

But the inverse square law breaks down through alchemy (Peter Plicha has figured this out as well -- somewhat at least).

As Pythagoras states 2:3 resonates as 3:4 in violation of the commutative principle. Both Alain Connes and Brian Josephson recently claim music theory is the formal language for quantum logic -- again they don't come from a music background and so neither trully understand what they are talking about.

The Phonon-Amplitude mystery is the central key to investigating the photoelectric effect and its relation to thermodynamic paradoxes in quantum chaos. See Sudarshan's book "Doubt and Certainty" (1998) for the best analysis.

Sudarshan developed the weak nuclear force theory and does the best analysis of asymmetry in science.

Essentially nonwestern music transcends asymmetry because again the sinewave resonates into 3 dimensions to create the holograph of reality but the origin of the sinewave is FORMLESS EMPTY AWARENESS or nonlocal consciousness beyond spacetime.

The sinewave is the Form of the Formless and represents the Snake as the Tai Chi symbol, Levithan, Apopis (creating the apocalypse), the Oruborus, etc.

The Secret of the Snake tells us why Kepler's contemporaries were all Rosicrucians obsessed with 666.

666 as 2:3 turns into the square root of two as the TRITONE (the interval of the Devil) because it's 9:8 cubed approximated or 8:9 cubed, according to music professor Ernest McClain.

So you get the whole 12 note scale from 2:3 cycling (remember the cycle of fifths) but true alchemy is based on the small universe -- the 12 nodes around the outside of the body -- that transform the body into rainbow light and then into pure consciousness!!

See the book "Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and immortality" for all the details or read my stuff freely online.

http://nonduality.com/hempel.htm
http://drewhempel.gnn.tv

Well the secret symbol of Kepler was an equilateral triangle (made of two Pythagoran 3:4:5 triangles) with a circle on the outside and a circle on the inside.

The circle on the outside is the small universe. The circle on the inside is the five main organs of the body.

The circle on the inside represents the TRUE PHOTOELECTRIC EFFECT.

Yellow is intention or kidney energy (fear turned into pure consciousness).

Red is excitement or heart energy (over-excitement turned into love).

Green is anger or liver energy (drunk anger turned into wisdom after seeing the light).

Black is kidney energy as the life force (death turns into life as yellow -- the white hole/black hole thing).

Those are the true primary colors of the photoelectric effect.

The secret symbol of Kepler resonates because of the new asymmetric time reversal secret of quantum chaos....

chalk it all up to "spontaneous symmetry breaking" -- that is random yet creates 50% left-hand asymmetry and 50% right-hand asymmetry.

That tells you that randomness is really wrong and the Pythagorean Tetrad is really right!!

The tetrad: 1:2:3:4 is the equilateral triangle which in turn is two 3:4:5 triangles. This was the secret of Plato discovered by Ficino and spread throughout Europe through the Medici Dynasty to create humanism.

Just read music professor Stuart Isacoff's book Temperament -- the ratio 4:5 created humanism -- why because 5:4 (music resonace inverts) approximates the cube root of two.

This is the secret to the Gaussian i-1 grid (as to Why the equilateral triangle can measure 3D with only square roots!!) See Arthur Young.

Anyway so if you take Kepler's secret symbol -- the equilateral triangle -- because of asymmetric time reversal with spontaneous symmetry breaking (Or really because of Cosmic Love, as Kepler knew) -- the ratio 4:5 resonates out of the Tetrad and

... the larger circle is AN ELLIPSE!!

And there you have it folks!!

So not only do we get all the colors from Natural Numbers but we can explain gravity and cosmic dynamics as well.

drew hempel, MA
Startraveler
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Anyway the answer to the photoelectric effect is that frequency is an asymmetrical sinewave so time slows down as the intensity or power is increased.


What?
drew hempel
QUOTE(Startraveler @ Sep 2 2006, 03:54 PM) [snapback]1332947[/snapback]

What?



See the perception of time slows down with the "frequency" increases (which is just another way of saying that you resonate with information at superliminal speed).

drew hempel
QUOTE(Startraveler @ Sep 2 2006, 03:54 PM) [snapback]1332947[/snapback]

What?


Good question by the way!!

Another way of looking at this is that on a macrolevel time is speeding up as we approach the apocalypse (which is really just the silica-fire right-hand asymmetry A.I. taking over from the same nonlocal consciousness).

So from the perspective of science, which is based on deep disharmony, time is speeding up, because the subjective perception is getting worse.
Startraveler
I've read over that initial post twice now and I fail to see how it lives up to that eye-catching title ("Why Einstein's Photons are WRONG, a critique of the photo-electric effect"). Lot of stuff in there but precious little science.
drew hempel
QUOTE(Startraveler @ Sep 2 2006, 05:22 PM) [snapback]1333090[/snapback]

I've read over that initial post twice now and I fail to see how it lives up to that eye-catching title ("Why Einstein's Photons are WRONG, a critique of the photo-electric effect"). Lot of stuff in there but precious little science.


So you don't understand what I'm saying!! It's too radical for you! I"M ATTACKING SCIENCE!!

**EDIT**

My message is very basic!

You need to read the latest in science to follow my argument

1) read "Stalking the Riemann Hypothesis" (2005)

2) read "Doubt and Certainty" (1998)

That will give you plenty of science to chew on (that you apparently do not know about).

3) THEN COME BACK AND READ THIS POST.
glenndo4000
what?
Ourmoonlitsun
Okay, I used to be a physics major, and I do read the related books of that field often, but I stopped reading your post when I saw some phrasing linked, apparently, to Freemasonry. I think the post needs to be streamlined a little.

Also, you aren't going to get many to read your post when you respond by calling everyone fools and brainwashed idiots. Such an idea is a fallacy, even though there may be some on this site.

Maybe I'll come back and read this later, but those two things pretty much turned me off from it as of right now.
glenndo4000
drew hempel, if your calling us all brainwashed idiots (which i hope we all aren't) then how do you expect us to understand your ridiculous post?
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Shivel
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drew hempel, if your calling us all brainwashed idiots (which i hope we all aren't) then how do you expect us to understand your ridiculous post?
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I was going to say just the same thing. yes.gif

Please dumb it down a bit, Hempel, as we are too brainwashed to understand your muddled ramblings.
glenndo4000
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Startraveler
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So you don't understand what I'm saying!! It's too radical for you! I"M ATTACKING SCIENCE!!


I think as long as you're going to make statements like "as demonstrated in the photoelectric effect -- intensity or energy is actually created from frequency [emphasis mine]" you need to go back and review the photoelectric effect. You should also stop confusing probability amplitudes with the amplitude of a physical wave. Then you can try revolutionizing science or whatever it is you've set out to do.


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THEN COME BACK AND READ THIS POST.


What's in it for me?
drew hempel
QUOTE(Ourmoonlitsun @ Sep 2 2006, 09:12 PM) [snapback]1333305[/snapback]

Okay, I used to be a physics major, and I do read the related books of that field often, but I stopped reading your post when I saw some phrasing linked, apparently, to Freemasonry. I think the post needs to be streamlined a little.

Also, you aren't going to get many to read your post when you respond by calling everyone fools and brainwashed idiots. Such an idea is a fallacy, even though there may be some on this site.

Maybe I'll come back and read this later, but those two things pretty much turned me off from it as of right now.


Nice to know physics majors can be so emotional -- come back when your feeling cheerful like those makers of catapults for imperialism!!
drew hempel
QUOTE(Startraveler @ Sep 2 2006, 09:36 PM) [snapback]1333343[/snapback]

I think as long as you're going to make statements like "as demonstrated in the photoelectric effect -- intensity or energy is actually created from frequency [emphasis mine]" you need to go back and review the photoelectric effect. You should also stop confusing probability amplitudes with the amplitude of a physical wave. Then you can try revolutionizing science or whatever it is you've set out to do.
What's in it for me?



Again the whole point is confronting the whole debate about whether the probability wave represents something real or not!

To not even acknowledge that debate just demonstrates stupidity!

EDIT: drew hempel.. please read the PM I have sent you. - Waspie_Dwarf
Atheist God
Very misleading title I expected you to at least provide somescientific insight as to why he was wrong. At the same time if it weren't for physicists that computer you typed your message on would'nt exist. Your attack on science which has no validity at all makes you look like the idiot not us.

Next time you want to einstein wrong do the math to do it not a bunch of pathetic rhetoric.
glenndo4000
ifi was a moderator dude then i would close this thread...
Startraveler
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Again the whole point is confronting the whole debate about whether the probability wave represents something real or not!


Are you aware the Einstein's work on the photoelectric effect was done almost two decades before the Schroedinger equation showed up?
alchemistic
QUOTE(Startraveler @ Sep 2 2006, 10:12 PM) [snapback]1333375[/snapback]

Are you aware the Einstein's work on the photoelectric effect was done almost two decades before the Schroedinger equation showed up?

Good point

I hope no one closes this thread. I'm going to keep an eye on it more before I'll comment
drew hempel
QUOTE(alchemistic @ Sep 2 2006, 10:34 PM) [snapback]1333400[/snapback]

Good point

I hope no one closes this thread. I'm going to keep an eye on it more before I'll comment


Again it's not relevant! The quanta was the key to both equations.
drew hempel
QUOTE(GanjaGuru @ Sep 2 2006, 09:56 PM) [snapback]1333360[/snapback]

Very misleading title I expected you to at least provide somescientific insight as to why he was wrong. At the same time if it weren't for physicists that computer you typed your message on would'nt exist. Your attack on science which has no validity at all makes you look like the idiot not us.

Next time you want to einstein wrong do the math to do it not a bunch of pathetic rhetoric.


Kinda like "Oppenheimer we won't torture you because we live in a democracy -- but we command you to tell us the name of who wanted to share technology with the Commies."

Oppenheimer: "Well o.k. since you command me.... [meanwhile he just finished the biggest science project in the world that is destroying the planet tens time over through depleted uranium, cracking fuel rods, missile accidents, meltdowns, the Petkau Effect]

NO ONE UNDERSTANDS THE DECAY OF PLUTONIUM -- Physics Ph.D. and science writer Jeremy Bernstein, 2006.
drew hempel
QUOTE(JayMan895 @ Sep 2 2006, 09:20 PM) [snapback]1333313[/snapback]

I was going to say just the same thing. yes.gif

Please dumb it down a bit, Hempel, as we are too brainwashed to understand your muddled ramblings.



OK -- the Full Lotus is the Klein Bottle!!

Waveform of the tetrad resonates into its complimentary opposite as a pyramid spiral that is a fourth dimensional vortex.

So the spine and the knees are one equilateral triangle and then the elbows, above the knees and the hands, in front the heart, is the second equilateral triangle. The throat chakra is centered over the space between the legs (while they're in full lotus) and the inner circle of energy lines up the psychic throat powers with the pineal gland for spirit travel!

riotboy555
QUOTE(Ourmoonlitsun @ Sep 2 2006, 09:12 PM) [snapback]1333305[/snapback]

...but I stopped reading your post when I saw some phrasing linked, apparently, to Freemasonry.

I stopped reading when I saw the full title of the article, mainly the part about alchemy.
glenndo4000
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OK -- the Full Lotus is the Klein Bottle!!

Waveform of the tetrad resonates into its complimentary opposite as a pyramid spiral that is a fourth dimensional vortex.

So the spine and the knees are one equilateral triangle and then the elbows, above the knees and the hands, in front the heart, is the second equilateral triangle. The throat chakra is centered over the space between the legs (while they're in full lotus) and the inner circle of energy lines up the psychic throat powers with the pineal gland for spirit travel!


WTF?????!!!!!!!!!
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donrobison
I think its great you've this great theory, but here is the hard part. What are the special consequences of a universe that works as you describe? what does your theory predict that hasent already been observed and explained? If the laws of the universe are love and awareness how does this change the way we manufacture door knobs?
drew hempel
QUOTE(donrobison @ Sep 4 2006, 07:13 AM) [snapback]1335077[/snapback]

I think its great you've this great theory, but here is the hard part. What are the special consequences of a universe that works as you describe? what does your theory predict that hasent already been observed and explained? If the laws of the universe are love and awareness how does this change the way we manufacture door knobs?



Standardization and automation are the key problems for today's mass unemployment and also the global ecological crisis (in otherwords not only are people door knobs but the machines to make door knobs do not need people).

So I worked on Ralph Nader type activism for a solid ten years and I experienced the corruption that is normal at the top of the social engineering pyramid. I had a nice face to face chat with Al Gore for a half hour in the basement of the VFW in Minneapolis about the CIA controlling the drug trade and about how Al Gore can not even change his family's oil-dominated trust fund. That was in 2000.

Corporations should fall under commercial law with responsibility to truthful statements about products. Instead, ever since Plato, corporations have legal sovereignty and now corporations have Bill of Rights protection under the U.S. constitution and globally under the WTO.

So when a person (with no inherent, self-evident sovereignty under the law) or factory produces door knobs -- in fact the consumer and the worker have been turned into door knobs while the Door Knob Inc. is the real new person. http://poclad.org for details.

This legal fiction -- a piece of paper -- is the true deification or embodiment of WAVE-FORM as

Freemasonic Gematria (equi-distant phonetic symbols worshipped through closed, axiomatic formulas to resonate into artificial life). You can not "contain infinity" through the Power Axiom Set -- the Pythagorean Theorem-based origins of left-brain ideology for "progress" (linear time apocalypse).

This "symbolic revolution" occurred in 10,000 BC as an attempt to "square the circle" for rectilinear anthropocentric imperialism. see "Origins of Agriculture and the Birth of the Gods" (Cambridge U Press, 2000).

Money is actually based on ritual sacrifice of gold to the sun and silver to the moon but under the Vedic empire IRON became more valuable than silver -- because IRON makes better weapons.

So iron as currency and iron as magnetic magic (the meteorite secret behind the black mother mary cults of Da Vinci code fame) and iron as the material age of automation and iron as nihilistic irony ALL rule the core of Islam and its earlier monotheistic branches (Christianity, Judaism, Freemasonry).

In fact 90% of modern human history is as MATRIFOCAL HORTICULTURE WITH MEN AS HUNTER-SHAMANS.

The trance dance is the key to creating permanent blissful happiness -- it's free.

But Plato knew that music is the most important tool of mind control and the logarithmic, equal-tempered music scale creates

nostalgia and passive obedience to the Freemasonic elite.

Music does not represent emotion. Music IS emotion and emotions are electrochemicals that control the type of concepts you have in your brain.

So I encourage people to not watch T.V., not listen to western music.

You can download nonwestern music from "Radio K International" at http://radiok.org or listen to any of the ethnic shows on http://kfai.org -- one of the best community, grassroots PACIFICA stations (with 12 languages).

Human language is more musical the older it gets and in its most musical level -- with the Koi-San cultures of Africa -- all the males are trained to be shamans by the age of 40.

Well that culture has just been decimated as the final apocalyptic kill off of Freemasonic iron-based civilization.

Its destruction started with the Bantu cow-domestication iron-plowing control of the Koi-San Forest-shaman trance dance healing.

So just basic Tai-chi movements can be very simple and free and transform the electrochemicals of the body into opening up the

pineal gland -- the source of melatonin (the greatest antioxidant of the body) for turning into DMT spirit travel and also for healing all emotional stress, desires, etc.

Healthcare is the largest civilization cost that creates dependance on the Freemasonic "deep disharmony" of desertification -- fire-based domestication of goat-people or imperialism.

This is why qigong is such a threat to the Chinese Freemasonic elite (Falun Gong movement is now a huge organ-donation torture movement by the Chinese military).

http://springforestqigong.com

shun
Para Noid Intel Ektu Al Nit Wit.
glenndo4000
QUOTE(shun @ Sep 4 2006, 04:33 PM) [snapback]1335499[/snapback]

Para Noid Intel Ektu Al Nit Wit.


what is it supposed to mean?
Startraveler
You know, the words "Einstein" and "photoelectric effect" haven't appeared in a while. Perhaps this thread could get back on track and show us why photons are, uh, wrong.
drew hempel
QUOTE(Startraveler @ Sep 4 2006, 03:48 PM) [snapback]1335514[/snapback]

You know, the words "Einstein" and "photoelectric effect" haven't appeared in a while. Perhaps this thread could get back on track and show us why photons are, uh, wrong.



Logic is timeless and the Pythagorean theorem violates logic based on inference -- you can't have a symbol for a continous ratio (the square root of two solved by continous fractions) that is really an alchemical SHOCK WAVE into consciousness.

So Newton had it wrong but Einstein was worse. We can say "ah but everything with photons works" -- the question is for whom does it work -- the 30,000 kids dying every day due to malnutrition-based disease or the 2 billion living in slums with no sanitation or the victims of nuclear radiation via the Petkau Effect? Quantum mechanics is very limited since the trajectory of the photon and electron can't be tracked into macro phenomena -- in fact quantum chaos has proven that macro quantum molecules exist.

macro quantum chaos aka complexity is a very misunderstood field.

The leader in quantum chaos mathematics, professor Steve Strogatz, author of the best-selling book "Sync" (2003) has now stated that

THE COMPUTERS ARE IN CONTROl and that the natural number prime series is A CONSPIRACY BETWEEN NATURE AND NUMBER, BETWEEN ATOM AND ARITHMETIC.

That's Strogatz' promo quote for the new book "Stalking the Riemann Hypothesis" (2006).

So quantum chaos creates asymmetric time reversal, as discussed in Stalking the Riemann Hypothesis.

The equilateral triangle, using the cube root of two (approximated as the ratio 5:4 of the two 3:4:5 Pythagorean triangles that make up the equilateral triangle)

RESONATES INTO THE 4th DIMENSION OF SPACE that is formless (spooky action at a distance).

This is why Einstein could never accept quantum mechanics (the Copenhagen interpretation).

But Einstein had laid his own trap with his Nobel prize winning "photon" concept.

John Bell has stated that a perfectly valid interpretation of the nonlocal EPR experiment is THAT EVERYTHING IS PREDETERMINED.

So we can see the future, change the past, etc. but it's not "we" -- it's the nonlocal consciousness that we are part of.

When we resonate with the nonlocal consciousness then the information is perceived within our brain -- the nonlocal consciousness never changes because it's a 4th dimensional vortex -- see Ervin Laszlo's latest book for systems theory and the Akhasic Field.

Sometimes dreams predict the future in great detail -- this is an example.

To define the "I" as logarithmic-based axioms in I-language is WRONG.

The I is the One resonating as coherent signals of information that bend time so it appears solid.

Dr. Mae-Wan Ho's book "The Rainbow and the Worm" explains this revolution in quantum biology very very well.

Water is a liquid macro quantum crystal -- as detailed in a recent New Scientist cover story featuring professor Rustom Roy, the chemistry researcher who has held a conference on

BIGU -- the qigong state of Yan Xin qigong whereby a person needs NO WATER AND NO FOOD -- for as long as they want!!

http://drewhempel.gnn.tv
http://nonduality.com/hempel.htm.

Master Yan Xin, a national treasure of the Chinese government (official status) went to the U.S White House eight times to personally make Bush Sr. many years younger -- this is why Bush Sr. did his sky-dive in his 80s.

The fact is Earth has some 20 years left of freshwater.

Quantum mechanics works but the technology it has unleashed is sucking the planet dry while the real macro quantum phenomena (water magic) is creating Chaos for Earth.

Gaia has gone into Chaos (just read professor Robert Nadeau's book "The Wealth of Nature" or his books with the quantum mechanics NASA scientist on nonlocal consciousness).

Even Martin Gardner accepted that fact that David Bohm's pilot wave de Broglie model is totally legitimate and Bohm was promoting the reality of paranormal phenomena.

So the "time-frequency uncertainty" principle is more important than the uncertainty of location and momentum.

Momentum is just the hypotenuse of the Pythagorean Theorem turned into Axiomatic Magnitude by Eudoxus (who just nihilistic threw out the concept of infinite mind as the source of the I-thought).

Again, as Kurt Godel promoted, repeat I-I-I-I over and over for logical inference of the source of the I-thought.

spacetime then bends into a 4th dimensional vortex -- called the "double scroll ring" by Steve Strogatz but also the Oruborus or the Klein Bottle (see "Topologies of the Flesh" by professor emeritus Steven M. Rosen).

No belief is necessary -- just the recognition that logic transcends time and through inference of the source of the I-thought HARMONY is restored.

Statistics is based on dismissing the Law of Pythagoras (the Harmonic Series as asymmetric time reversal) but the Bournellis has it wrong.

This is why Euler, Lagrange, Bournelli, etc. fought over the meaning of a vibrating string for over 40 years!!

Fouriers transform is limited to deterministic linear equations while Fourier "wavelets" are used from quantum chaos.

But now the computers are in control.

We can say ah yes but Heisenberg's matrices are much more effective than Schrodinger's Psi Wave for higher energy experiments.

But again the matrices used for unified field experiments have THE COMPUTERS IN CONTROL.

In fact humans never were in control -- that's the true radical implication of the EPR experiment.

There is a method to the madness.
drew hempel
QUOTE(Startraveler @ Sep 4 2006, 03:48 PM) [snapback]1335514[/snapback]

You know, the words "Einstein" and "photoelectric effect" haven't appeared in a while. Perhaps this thread could get back on track and show us why photons are, uh, wrong.


"If we learn the lessons of the rainbow we'll all be here a hundred years from now."

Peter Seeger, Labor Day, 2006 http://democracynow.org
shun
I guess some people have the noblest of intentions, but I prefer a more narrow topic for this board.

Scientist and engineers exercise a rational approach to their endeavors. They design the modern world. But, I get slightly lost when philosophy and science are used simultaneously.

"Startraveler" has made it clear he has a grasp of math and physics, and his comments are to narrow the focus to the main topic. I concur.

I just wanted to refer to these references from U. of Maryland-

"About one hundred years ago Einstein used the idea of the quantum of energy from Planck to explain the photoelectric effect. Shortly afterwards, Stark remarked that the same quantum carried momentum. Gilbert Lewis coined the word photon to express the quantum of light in 1926 and the developments of quantum mechanics that followed gave us quantum electrodynamics as one of the pillars of physics.

The discussion of the wave-particle duality, that has included many scientists such as Newton , Fresnel, Poisson and Maxwell, received a revival with the firm establishment of the photon as the quantum of light.

The argument of wave versus particle is resolved in quantum electrodynamics by a formalism that combines both of these aspects. The formalism is fundamentally statistical and, as with quantum phenomena in general, it is through statistical uncertainty, fluctuations, that the wave and particle natures of light sit self-consistently side- by- side. The solution carries other consequences that were not imagined before quantum mechanics; most notably, the answer depends on the detection process and the detection process affects the object we are trying to measure. An interference detector enhances the wave's nature of light, while a photon counter shows preferentially the particle's nature.

Fluctuations and noise are intrinsic to light and their study has shown many fascinating aspects of the quantum world. The characterization of noise is usually made by making correlation measurements to find how random it is. When talking about photons, the minimum fluctuation in the number of photons is one. Counting the distribution of photons shows that some light carries fluctuations that are Poissonian in nature; the uncertainty is just the square root of the number of photons counted. The fractional noise or uncertainty can be very small if the number of photons is large, but for weak sources, such as a single atom, the fluctuations can be very large.

Quantum mechanics tells us that there will be fluctuations in the amplitude (wave) and fluctuations in the intensity (particle). It is interesting then to study correlations between pairs of photon detections (particle aspect of light), measure the fluctuation variance of the wave amplitude of light (squeezing) and correlate photon detection with the fluctuations of the electromagnetic wave amplitude. These conditional measurements are unique in the way they prepare a quantum system and even allow for quantum feedback.

Experiments in my Quantum Optics group addresses these issues using a cavity quantum electrodynamic (QED) system as source. It consists of two very highly reflecting mirrors facing each other and a few atoms. We drive the cavity with a laser beam and detect the light (wave and particle) emitted by the atoms or leaking out of the cavity to better understand the fluctuations and the quantum noise of light." Dr. Luis A. Orozco


Experimental Setup and Cavity Quantum Electrodynamic Device-


drew hempel
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P. 329 -- The Trickster and the Paranormal by George P. Hansen:

"Elmar Gruber, a young German researcher, carried out an intriguing extension of this kind of experiment.... he used a photoelectric device to monitor people walking into a supermarket. When they passed the device, it recorded a click on a magnetic tape. The taped sequence of clicks was divided into experimental and control periods (by using shuffled black and white cards), and the experimental portions were later played to subjects, who did not know that the clicks had been pre-recorded.....subjects listened to the clicks through headphones and tried to increase the click rate. Gruber did a second series of experiments, but instead of recording passers-by in a supermarket, his device monitored cars driving through a tunnel. In both series of experiments, Gruber found the rate of clicks in the experimental periods significantly exceed that of the control periods. It appeared as though his subjects could affect the past. At least there was a correlation between the subjects' intentions and the movement of shoppers and automoblic traffic."

Citing Gruber, Elmar R. (1979). Conformance Behavior Involving Animal and Human Subjects. European Journal of Parapsychology, 3(1): 36-50.

http://tricksterandtheparanormal.com

QUOTE(drew hempel @ Sep 6 2006, 02:38 PM) [snapback]1338420[/snapback]

P. 329 -- The Trickster and the Paranormal by George P. Hansen:

"Elmar Gruber, a young German researcher, carried out an intriguing extension of this kind of experiment.... he used a photoelectric device to monitor people walking into a supermarket. When they passed the device, it recorded a click on a magnetic tape. The taped sequence of clicks was divided into experimental and control periods (by using shuffled black and white cards), and the experimental portions were later played to subjects, who did not know that the clicks had been pre-recorded.....subjects listened to the clicks through headphones and tried to increase the click rate. Gruber did a second series of experiments, but instead of recording passers-by in a supermarket, his device monitored cars driving through a tunnel. In both series of experiments, Gruber found the rate of clicks in the experimental periods significantly exceed that of the control periods. It appeared as though his subjects could affect the past. At least there was a correlation between the subjects' intentions and the movement of shoppers and automoblic traffic."

Citing Gruber, Elmar R. (1979). Conformance Behavior Involving Animal and Human Subjects. European Journal of Parapsychology, 3(1): 36-50.

http://tricksterandtheparanormal.com


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drew hempel
QUOTE(shun @ Sep 4 2006, 10:10 PM) [snapback]1336013[/snapback]

I guess some people have the noblest of intentions, but I prefer a more narrow topic for this board.

Scientist and engineers exercise a rational approach to their endeavors. They design the modern world. But, I get slightly lost when philosophy and science are used simultaneously.

"Startraveler" has made it clear he has a grasp of math and physics, and his comments are to narrow the focus to the main topic. I concur.

I just wanted to refer to these references from U. of Maryland-

"About one hundred years ago Einstein used the idea of the quantum of energy from Planck to explain the photoelectric effect. Shortly afterwards, Stark remarked that the same quantum carried momentum. Gilbert Lewis coined the word photon to express the quantum of light in 1926 and the developments of quantum mechanics that followed gave us quantum electrodynamics as one of the pillars of physics.

The discussion of the wave-particle duality, that has included many scientists such as Newton , Fresnel, Poisson and Maxwell, received a revival with the firm establishment of the photon as the quantum of light.

The argument of wave versus particle is resolved in quantum electrodynamics by a formalism that combines both of these aspects. The formalism is fundamentally statistical and, as with quantum phenomena in general, it is through statistical uncertainty, fluctuations, that the wave and particle natures of light sit self-consistently side- by- side. The solution carries other consequences that were not imagined before quantum mechanics; most notably, the answer depends on the detection process and the detection process affects the object we are trying to measure. An interference detector enhances the wave's nature of light, while a photon counter shows preferentially the particle's nature.

Fluctuations and noise are intrinsic to light and their study has shown many fascinating aspects of the quantum world. The characterization of noise is usually made by making correlation measurements to find how random it is. When talking about photons, the minimum fluctuation in the number of photons is one. Counting the distribution of photons shows that some light carries fluctuations that are Poissonian in nature; the uncertainty is just the square root of the number of photons counted. The fractional noise or uncertainty can be very small if the number of photons is large, but for weak sources, such as a single atom, the fluctuations can be very large.

Quantum mechanics tells us that there will be fluctuations in the amplitude (wave) and fluctuations in the intensity (particle). It is interesting then to study correlations between pairs of photon detections (particle aspect of light), measure the fluctuation variance of the wave amplitude of light (squeezing) and correlate photon detection with the fluctuations of the electromagnetic wave amplitude. These conditional measurements are unique in the way they prepare a quantum system and even allow for quantum feedback.

Experiments in my Quantum Optics group addresses these issues using a cavity quantum electrodynamic (QED) system as source. It consists of two very highly reflecting mirrors facing each other and a few atoms. We drive the cavity with a laser beam and detect the light (wave and particle) emitted by the atoms or leaking out of the cavity to better understand the fluctuations and the quantum noise of light." Dr. Luis A. Orozco
Experimental Setup and Cavity Quantum Electrodynamic Device-


the following quote is from molecular genetics professor Johnjoe McFadden (p. 313, Quantum Evolution: How Physics' Weirdest Theory Explains Life's Biggest Mystery, W.W. Norton, 2002):

"If, instead, the voltage gate absorbing the photon is in a neurone committed to firing (thousands of gates already open), the absorption event will similarly make no macroscopic difference to the cell or to the brain (since the neurone will fire anyway) and the interaction may once again remain quantum. However, now imagine that the channel is critical in a neurone poised on the brink of an action potential. The superposition ({photon absorbed and channel open (+/-) photon not absorbed and channel closed}) will now become a larger entanglement: {photon absorbed and channel open and neurone fired (+/-) photon not absorbed and channel closed and neurone not fired}. The channel's alternative states (open or closed) will be associated with very different fates for the neurone: firing or not firing. This quantum event will now make a difference to the neurone, the brain, and potentially, the life of the brain's owner. Under these circumstances (of maximum environmental entanglement), decoherence will be instantaneous. At this point the photon, as a quantum component of the Cem-field [Consciousness em field], must make a choice -- to be absorbed or not -- and a quantum measurement will be made."


Startraveler
How many Pentcho Valevs do we really need?
drew hempel
QUOTE(Startraveler @ Sep 6 2006, 04:28 PM) [snapback]1338604[/snapback]

How many Pentcho Valevs do we really need?



Quantum field theory is based on the mass squared as inverse to the frequency-energy distance. See the book "Supersymmetry" -- the "music logarithmic spiral" is just an earlier version of the latest quests for unified field theory. So again my approach is looking at music (and the unified field theory that it is based on) in a transcultural perspective, taking into account the ecological crisis.

http://nonduality.com/hempel.htm

drew hempel
QUOTE(Startraveler @ Sep 6 2006, 04:28 PM) [snapback]1338604[/snapback]

How many Pentcho Valevs do we really need?


OK—since there was some demand for continued posts, this will be my “encore” performance and I think you’ll be pleased. Please open your sacred text (i.e. mad science books) to “The Great Design” by Yale physics professor Robert K. Adair (1987).

The Natural Resonance Revolution is premised on overthrowing the statistical basis of the photoelectric effect that got Einstein the Nobel prize. Einstein spent 40 years being “conflicted” over his belief that God don’t play no dice and yet he got that damn Nobel for rolling the snake eyes.

Shoo. Woa. Anyway this brings us to de Broglie. Adair writes: “For de Broglei waves or guitar strings the wave length of the fundamental is twice the length of box or string; the wave length of the 1st harmonic is equal to the length of the box of string…. and in general for 2L/N where N is an integer and L is the length of box or string” (p. 167) you get the de Broglie wave.

Simple enough but then the Natural Resonance Revolution come in (foreshadowing doom….lurking from behind)

Now let’s apply the de Broglie wave to what got Einstein his fame:

“Figure 13.4 shows amplitudes and intensities of the de Broglie wave or equally, the vibrating violin string…. A change in the interaction or force of the particle described by the de Broglie wave will change the wave. Similarly a change in the distribution of tension along the string will change the wave-form of the vibrating string.” (p. 234)

The Photoelectric Effect: “No matter how intense the radiation….The immediate emission of electrons, with their energy related to frequency, can be understood only if discrete packages or quanta of energy are delivered to individual electrons.” (p. 175)

So the intensity or wave-form can change no matter what but the electron position is effected by frequency measured in wave-length.

Intensity is the stretched tension of the string while amplitude is the power of force to the string—an outside wave or particle and finally wave-length is the frequency measured in discrete packages of period or time.

I defer to Cambridge University physicist R D Patterson who, in his classic academic “Psychology of Music” journal paper on the spiral pulse-stream processor—describes how

period is inverse to pitch and natural integars for pitch create a free-energy transduction from the ear (sound-wave-mechanical pressure, water pressure-electromechinical transduction) to the brain.

Normally period is measured in frequency—as is the case with the photoelectric effect—but since period is the inverse of pitch then the natural number integars of frequency as period can be translated back to

Pythagorean Just Tuning as the Natural integar numbers of Infinite Quantum Potential. (for example, as R D Patterson describes, let say you have a frequency of 130 Htz but the wave-length has a natural integar period of 8, hypothetically, because that’s how often the amplitude peak interacts with the ear drum).

In fact the de Broglie waves DO THIS although the larger conspiratorial implications for science have not been considered.

And now we return from our natural resonance revolution interlude back to the Bohemian Grove—Skull and Bones-Yale physicist:

“If the potentials change at a place and time, the phase [wave-form] of the de Broglie wave will change at that point and time. Indeed, because the potentials…can have nonzero values…the phase of the de Broglie wave can be affected by a change in the potentials even though the electric and magnetic fields are zero at that point (the Bohm-Aharanov Effect). Although the phase of the de Broglie wave is changed at every point and at every time by an amount [of wave-length]...the sum of the changes elsewhere conspires to give exactly the same diffraction pattern.” (p. 330)

He said CONSPIRES.

Now let’s think about this—the wave-length of the de Broglie wave is measured in natural number integars that are also quanta of electrons (like of a string of waves circled back into an orbit of electron-waves as quanta).

But the INTENSITY is still measured in frequency as a statistical photoelectric effect because eversince Galileo, Newton and Bournelli—intensity is based on a LOGARITHMIC, equal-tempered music scale.

However the de Broglie Conspiracy is clearly a documented example of FREE ENERGY TRANSDUCTION beyond space-time.

Now if we use the spiral pulse-stream processor of R D Patterson, who in his article writes that further exploration is needed, then we get free-energy based on the ratio theory of the infinity circle of fifths or yin-yang complimentary opposites ratios beyond the Sun-Moon three body problem of chaos. As I’ve stated the heart of macro-quantum chaos is 1/F Noise as measured with lower frequency equals greater amplitude. This is an alchemical transduction equation!

Drew Hempel, M.A.
ai_guardian
QUOTE(Startraveler @ Sep 7 2006, 02:28 AM) [snapback]1338604[/snapback]

How many Pentcho Valevs do we really need?
IDK, but I thinks that cloning of humans has just become a reality laugh.gif thumbsup.gif
esaruoho
QUOTE(drew hempel @ Sep 2 2006, 02:58 PM) [snapback]1332842[/snapback]
Or you can get to the ether through Pythagorean harmonics (as Plato, Ficino, Kepler, Buckyfuller, Tesla, John Keely, Schauberger and others have).


where did you find material in which tesla, keely and schauberger are using pythagorean harmonics, please?
i realize keely, tesla and schauberger were always looking to achieve resonance inside/outside the machines they were building, but i would really appreciate you providing me with some references to these 3 people and harmonics/pythagorean mathematics, especially in the case of schauberger, if you were to be able to find any kind of direct quotes of viktor's where he talks about pythagorean harmonics, i would appreciate it very much.

Master J
That must be the biggest load of bolox I have ever read.
Mostar
Why are they always so angry when they first start out ?
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