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Vavelva
I watched a program on the discovery channel about death metal and black metal. "Songs" of all that is negative. What most of them have in common is the violent lyrics. I became very interested in this and on what messages are hidden inside the songs. Thats when my instincts guided me to a website. The name of the website is http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/deathmetal.htm
I have copyed and pasted the rather disturbing things that has been connected with death metal. I apologize if this thread may offend someone. If this occures, please tell a mod to remove it.






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The Norwegian group Mayhem, which was formed in 1984, is considered the father of Black Metal in Europe. The founder of Mayhem, Oystein Aarseth (1967-1993) (who originally called himself "Destructor" but changed later to "Euronymous," allegedly meaning "the prince of death"), was stabbed to death in 1993. He was murdered by another Death Metal rocker, Varg Vikernes, of the group Burzum. Aarseth was 26 years old. Other band members were called "Necro Butcher," "Dead," and "Hellhammer." One of the trademarks of Mayhem and other Norwegian Black Metal groups is the wearing of "corpsepaint," which is black and white makeup designed to create a morbid appearance. Aarseth operated an occultic bookstore/record shop in Oslo that was very influential upon young people. It was called "Helvete," which is the Norse word for Hell. The vocalist for Mayhem, Per Yngve Ohlin (whose alias was "Dead"), blew his brains out (literally) in April 1991 with a shotgun. His body was found by Oystein Aarseth. Before the police arrived, Aarseth took pictures of Ohlinâs shattered body and collected pieces of his brain and skull. Describing the death of his fellow band member, Aarseth replied with complete lack of concern, "Yeah, Dead killed himself." Aarseth made necklaces with the skull pieces and cooked some of the brain and "ate it so he could claim himself to be a cannibal" (Michael Moynihan, Lords of Chaos, p. 59). Ohlin had once stabbed Aarseth with a knife. Ohlin also hated cats and tried to cut them with knives. Ohlin, who saw himself "as a creature from another world," had an obsession with snuff films that depict real deaths by horrible torture.

Death Metal in Scandinavia has been connected with the burning of many churches. Since 1992 there have been at least 45 to 60 church fires, near-fires, and attempted arson attacks in Norway alone. Roughly a third have a documented connection to the Black Metal scene (Lords of Chaos, p. 79). In every case that has been solved, the Kripos (Norwegian national investigation department) found that the arsonists were Black Metal "Satanists." A fire fighter was killed while battling one of the blazes. Black Metal rocker Varg Vikernes (1973- ), who is strongly suspected of setting the first fire in 1992, of an ancient church building in Fantoft, Norway, is in prison for 21 years for the murder of Oystein Aarseth and for setting other church fires. There were roughly a dozen church fires in Germany from late 1993 to early 1997. Most have a proven link to Black Metal and Satanism.

Death Metalist drummer Bard Eithun of the group Emperor is in prison for brutally murdering a homosexual with a knife for no reason other than the lust of killing. That was in August 1992. He stabbed the man 37 times. A fellow band member of the Death Metal group Emperor said Eithun had been fascinated with serial killers for a long time. The day after the murder, Eithun participated in a church burning.

The members of the German Death Metal group Absurd, composed of three high school students (Hendrik Mobus, Sebastian Schauscheill, and Andreas K.), murdered a 15-year-old classmate in April 1993. The group also called themselves "Children of Satan." Band leader Hendrik Mobus stated in an interview that we are at "the dawn of the New Aeon, when Christendom will perish and a neo-heathen state will arise" (Lords of Chaos, p. 260).

A member of the Swedish Death Metal band band Dissection was imprisoned for desecrating 250 graves.

In 1992 at a Halloween celebration attended by members of the Swedish Death Metal groups Dissection and Abruptum, an elderly man was stabbed repeatedly in the neck by an 18-year-old who had been instructed to prove that he could kill without compunction (Lords of Chaos, p. 268). Another member of Dissection, Jon Nodtveidt, was charged in 1997 with another Satanist in connection with assaulting people.

Members of British Death Metal band Necropolis assaulted churches and cemeteries in 1994.

A member of the French Death Metal band Funeral, Anthony Mignoni (who uses the pseudonym "Hades"), says he created the group "to spread my ideas based on the destruction of the Jewish, Christian, and Muslim religions, and on the purity and supremacy of the true Aryan race" (Lords of Chaos, p. 275). He was convicted of desecrating a grave in 1996. He and three others exhumed the body of Yvonne Foin, who had been dead 20 years, and placed a cross in the cadaverâs heart area. Another youth police believe to be associated with Mignoni, David Oberdorf, murdered a priest by stabbing him 33 times with a dagger. He then carved on the body after the man was dead. He had confronted the priest with the words, "I am possessed by the demon÷I must annihilate men of religion!" Investigators found a collection of death metal CDs in the teenâs room, and neighbors testified that they had heard "gnawing music, hard and stressful" blaring from his room.

Violence has been committed by young people intimately connected with the music of the popular Tampa, Florida, Death Metal group Deicide. In January 1993, two 15-year-old boys mulilated a neighborâs dog, Princess. They later told police that their fascination with Deicide led them to commit the atrocity. In April 1994, a female employee of a convenience store was brutally murdered and another woman nearly murdered in Eugene, Oregon, by teenagers. The families of the dead woman sued, claiming the youth were heavily influenced by the music of Deicide and Cannibal Corpse. The killer told police, "I did it in essence of Glen Benton and Chris Barnes [lead singer of Cannibal Corpse]." The youths had allegedly been listening to Deicide music in a church parking lot shortly before the bloodbath (Lords of Chaos, p. 290). The cases were settled out of court, with the record labels paying substantial sums while "expressly not admitting guilt" (Ibid.).

In July 1995, three teenagers in California, who were members of a Death Metal band called Hatred and who were "fanatical Slayer fans," murdered 15-year-old Elyse Pahler as a Satanic sacrifice. The three were Royce Casey, Jacob Delashmutt, and Joseph Fiorella. As Pahler prayed to God and called out for her mother, they stabbed her at least 12 times and left her to bleed to death. They chose Pahler because "her blond hair and blue eyes and virginity made her a perfect sacrifice to the devil" (Scripps-McClatchy Western Service, San Luis Obispo Telegram-Tribune, Feb. 21, 1997). When the chief investigator asked one of the teens why they committed such a deed, he replied that "it was to receive power from the devil to help them play the guitar better" so they could be able to "play crazier and harder" and "go professional." Two other teens associated with these three were convicted of murdering a 75-year-old woman. The murder of Elyse Pahler was unsolved for months until Casey came forward to the police and guided them to the body. He said he had "new found religious beliefs" and that he was afraid that the others would kill him if he distanced himself from them. Casey told the police that a lyric from the band Slayer warned, "If youâre not with us, you may no longer exist."

A Wisconsin Death Metal band, The Electric Hellfire Club, titled their 1993 debut album, Burn, Baby, Burn!, the cover of which depicted a church in flames. The lyrics to their song "Age of Fire" state: "Synagogues and churches burning/ Canât you see the tide is turning?/ How many fires will it take?/ Before you realize your god is dead?" This vicious, blasphemous song is a crowd-pleaser at their concerts. A fan of The Electric Hellfire Club, Caleb Fairley, of King of Prussia, Pennsylvania, murdered a woman and her young daughter and violated their corpses in 1995.

In April 1996, a group of young people with intimate connection with Death Metal, who called themselves the Lords of Chaos, went on a crime, arson, and murder spree in Fort Myers, Florida. They burned a Baptist church and a large tropical aviary containing a collection of exotic birds. They burned down a former Coca-Cola bottling plant. They then murdered the director of their high school marching band, blasting him in the face at close range with a shotgun, because he had stopped them from vandalizing the school the day before. The leader of the group, 18-year-old Kevin Foster, was referred to by the others as "God." Before they were caught by police, the group was making plans to dress up in costumes and walk through Disney World shooting tourists with silencer-equipped guns.

In October 1997, another teenage Death Metal lover, 16-year-old Luke Woodham of Pearl, Mississippi, killed his mother by beating her with a baseball bat, stabbing her repeatedly, and slitting her throat. He then went to his high school and calmly opened fire with a .30-30 rifle on fellow students. He killed two girls and wounded seven others. Woodham was part of a group of Death Metal fans who prayed to Satan, admired Hitler, tortured animals, and embraced the anti-Christian views of the German philosopher Nietzsche. The leader of the group was 18-year-old Grant Boyette, referred to by the others as "Father." Woodham was chosen as the assassin for the attack upon the school. Woodham and five other teens were charged with conspiracy to commit the attack upon the school. The group had also planned the murder of the father of one of the members, but they had failed to carry out the plan. Woodham had written out his blasphemy against God on a paper found by the police: "Hate the accursed god of Christianity. Hate him for making you! Hate him for flinging you into a monstrous life you did not ask for nor deserve! Fill your heart, mind, and soul with hatred; until itâs all you know ... hate until you can't anymore." The students allegedly had grander plans, including more killings, napalm fires, and ultimately taking over their high school and then disappearing ("Small Town Rocked by Bizarre Murder Case," CNN, Oct. 21, 1997).

In December 1997, 14-year-old Michael Carneal shot and killed three students and wounded five others at a high school in Paducah, Kentucky. One of the injured was paralyzed from the waist down. All of the targeted students were participating in a prayer meeting sponsored by a Christian club. Carneal was a member of a group of students who claimed not to believe in God and who heckled the prayer meetings. A lawsuit brought after the crime alleged that Carneal was influenced by violent movies, videos, and music.

In March 1998, 13-year-old Black Metal lover Mitchell Johnson, and his 11-year-old friend, Andrew Golden, killed four girls and a teacher and wounded 10 others at a school in Jonesboro, Arkansas,. Mitchell had become more aggressive after his parentsâ divorce in 1994, "talking back and pushing the limits." Many speculated that the violence in the music that Mitchell loved contributed to the slayings.

In April 1999, Death Metal lovers Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold walked onto the campus of their high school in Littleton, Colorado, and brutally murdered 12 fellow students and a teacher and wounded 20 others before taking their own lives. Some of those murdered were picked out because they were Christians. Before they shot 17-year-old Cassie Bernall to death, they asked, "Do you believe in God?" She replied, "Yes," and they shot her. They laughed as they destroyed and mangled their victims. Witnesses reported that "they were just hooting and hollering, having the time of their lives." Harris and Klebold loved the most wretched forms of rock music, particularly Marilyn Manson and German "techno" and Death Metal rock groups.

Marilyn Manson rips apart Bibles on stage and says: "Hopefully, Iâll be remembered as the one who brought an end to Christianity. · Each age must have at least one brave individual that tries to bring an end to Christianity. ... No one has managed to succeed yet; maybe through music we can finally do it" (Spin, August 1996, p. 34). We have news for Mr. Manson. True Christianity will never end. Of those who believe on Jesus Christ for salvation, Christ promised they "shall not perish, but have everlasting life" (John 3:16). Everlasting is a very long time. John Lennon once said Christianity will vanish and shrink; I neednât argue about that; Iâm right and will be proved right" (Newsweek, March 21, 1966). Lennon is gone. Church of Satan founder Anton Lavey, who exercised much influence upon rock & roll, said that Christianity would be finished if a representative of the Church of Satan could have just one hour on national TV (Lords of Chaos, p. 236), but LaVey is gone. Jimi Hendrix considered the laws of God a form of bondage and saw himself as a liberator of young people from Bible-believing Christianity (ÎScuse Me While I Kiss the Sky, pp. 214,215), but he is gone. Famous Satanist Aleister Crowley, who had a large influence upon modern rock music and who has been glorified by rock stars such as Ozzy Osbourne, David Bowie, Graham Bond, the Beatles, and Mick Jagger, once offered himself to the Russian authorities to help destroy Christianity (Steve Turner, Hungry for Heaven, p. 92). Crowley is gone, though. After Marilyn Manson is gone, biblical Christianity will continue forever.

Some claim that no matter how vile, no matter how violent rock music is, it does not have a destructive influence upon its hearers. There are many who make light of those who find connections between such things as violent music and violent crime, or pornography and rape.

We believe this is strange and unreasonable÷yea, irresponsible÷thinking. The pounding beat of rock does have an influence. A visit to any rock concert will demonstrate that. And the rock lyrics also influence. Those who saturate themselves with rock are deeply effected by it. I know this by the sad experience of the years I spent immersed in the world of rock.

Countless others who have similar backgrounds testify the same thing. Why is it that it is rock music that is always connected with debachery and violence, and not classical music or "easy listening" or bluegrass or Christian hymns? The fact is that Rock corrupts. Rock injures. Rock maims. Rock kills.

Gladys Alarcon, a detective with the Hillsborough County Sheriffâs Department in Florida, testifies that "every teen she has interviewed in relation to a hate or occult crime has listened to Îblack metalâ music and used hallucinogenic drugs" ("Police Chiefs Warned Against Occult Crime," Charisma, January 1991, p. 26).

If there is such a thing as cause and effect÷and there is!÷it is clear that rock produces aberrant behavior. We believe the gruesome summary of Death Metal rock music is found in the title of another popular rock song: "Another one bites the dust." Rock destroys.

My friends, evil is rampant in this world, and we must diligently guard our own hearts and minds and those of our children. The Bible warns that "a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame" (Proverbs 29:15).

"Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world" (1 Peter 5:8,9).
__Kratos__
A christian site bashing death/black metal... That's rich. laugh.gif

I've been listening to death metal for quite some time now and you know what? I've yet to light up a church or commit some crime because of the music no matter how violent, sick, twisted or disburbing the music is. Shocking. wink2.gif

*turns on Children of Bodom* devil.gif

I think the true evil in this world is groups telling people what to think and how to act because they don't like other things. disgust.gif
girty1600
An interesting, if not long, read. I don't think these kids were driven to kill and maim due to the music they listened to but rather were driven to death metal because they wanted to kill and maim. If it hadn't been rock music it would have been something else. Sick people are drawn to the macabre because they have nothing else.
Poetic Reven
Waiting for super mega mod-slappage.

Great thanks to whoever gets this immature demoni-whatever kid away from here. thumbsup.gif

EDIT: Vav, if that demonikan or whats his name is you, you are gonna go down like there is no tommorow. But if not, I apologise 1000 times over. Thank you
girty1600
I like music just as much as anyone and I'm not saying Kratos is sick because he likes death metal. You, on the other hand, need to calm down.....
MyFavoriteStars
laugh.gif Laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame Go On and Keep pretending that believing in satan and listening to black/death metal makes you some type of badass. No one cares if you listen to the heaviest, darkest, sickist metal ...your ignorance makes you pathetic. Even if you try to prove your a so called " badass" by killing or doing horrible things to people.... you still in the end aren't a "badass". Give it up satanists, you in the end will be the ones who will feel the abyss. yes.gif wink2.gif
AtlantisRises
I don't think Metal has anything to do with violence. it is only an excuse for violence.

As Girty said these people probably had problems anyway.

For instance they might have been rude fools like Demoniken.

In any case it isnt the musics fault it was just an excuse.

Magikman
Vavelva,

This childish little stunt with the dual personalities has just gotten you banned, you and Demoniken have a nice life, twit.

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