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michael581
Has anyone seen any attractive ghost with nice body or face. I've always wondered about the beauty in the afterlife... If a fat person died would they turn up as fat etc??? huh.gif
YesThey'reReal
hmmmm...never thought about that...interesting concept
ShaunZero
I've always wondered this too. Are fat people's spirits fat? XD No offense to anyone, but it's true... And what about people with deformalities?
Caesar
From what I noticed from many ghosts encounters that I've read, is that they tend to look like what they did in real life and some apper as they looked in there 30's, for some reason.

JMHO
Jaguat
All of the literature that i've read and personal experiences i've had point to the apparition being the same in life as they are in death to those they appear to. Several 'white' or 'grey' lady apparitions have been noted to be young and attractive, though this is usually attributed to them dying young anyway.
Hope this helps.
Lonecat
QUOTE(Jaguat @ Sep 17 2006, 09:07 AM) [snapback]1353475[/snapback]

All of the literature that i've read and personal experiences i've had point to the apparition being the same in life as they are in death to those they appear to. Several 'white' or 'grey' lady apparitions have been noted to be young and attractive, though this is usually attributed to them dying young anyway.
Hope this helps.


If the ghost seems fat and unhappy, then you can be sure that it is the spirit of someone closely tied to Earth and who has not yet wanted, or been able, to move on. Apparitions and visions of people who have passed over to the other side are likely to look much younger and healthier than they did at the time of death. This is because, on the other side, everything is based on the energy of spirit through thought. When you arrive there after the physical thing we call death, the only thing you take with you is: yourself;your character: your soul if you like. You are the same person as on Earth with all your likes and dislikes, thoughts and memories and you find yourself surrounded by the ideal environment for you, personally. You also find yourself at the age that you would like to be, and in perfect health. If, in life on Earth, you had to suffer amputations of limbs, then on the other side you are whole again because your spirit body, while seeming just as solid and tangible as it did on Earth is formed out of thought energy. On the other side there are thousands of people who concern themselves with meeting new arrivals to help them adjust to the new conditions of Spirit and there are also thousands of others who come back to Earth in their now ideal form to help Earth-bound souls break with this side and to lead them on to the other side, where they can spiritually develop further. All this explains why deceased loved ones who appear to us in dreams, always seem to be at their finest age, say in their twenties to thirties - because that is the form they adopt "over there". Souls who just cannot break away from Earth, either because they love it too much and cannot conceive of anything better than material things, need to be "rescued" by spirits from the hereafter, who come to help them leave this world and progress to the next. The headless ghost who cannot find his way out of this world after a traumatic death, when finally rescued and led to the other side, will find himself whole again and in what, for him, would be ideal surroundings and in the company of many, many other people who are willing to guide him and care for him until he finds his own way to spiritual enlightenment. Lonecat
Ashiene
QUOTE(michael581 @ Sep 17 2006, 02:07 PM) [snapback]1353401[/snapback]

Has anyone seen any attractive ghost with nice body or face. I've always wondered about the beauty in the afterlife... If a fat person died would they turn up as fat etc??? huh.gif


you can check my thread titled 'Pontianak - Beautiful, Seductive, Deadly' for more information. thumbsup.gif
juejue
QUOTE(michael581 @ Sep 17 2006, 07:07 AM) [snapback]1353401[/snapback]

Has anyone seen any attractive ghost with nice body or face. I've always wondered about the beauty in the afterlife... If a fat person died would they turn up as fat etc??? huh.gif

i think in the afterlife you are how you want to be, how you were the time when you were young and lively
Daniella2310
QUOTE(michael581 @ Sep 17 2006, 02:07 AM) [snapback]1353401[/snapback]

Has anyone seen any attractive ghost with nice body or face. I've always wondered about the beauty in the afterlife... If a fat person died would they turn up as fat etc??? huh.gif

Supposedly "Resurrection Mary" is very pretty, and all those ghosts that stop you when you are on the road too.
Jaguat
QUOTE(Lonecat @ Sep 17 2006, 08:47 PM) [snapback]1353512[/snapback]

If the ghost seems fat and unhappy, then you can be sure that it is the spirit of someone closely tied to Earth and who has not yet wanted, or been able, to move on. Apparitions and visions of people who have passed over to the other side are likely to look much younger and healthier than they did at the time of death. This is because, on the other side, everything is based on the energy of spirit through thought. When you arrive there after the physical thing we call death, the only thing you take with you is: yourself;your character: your soul if you like. You are the same person as on Earth with all your likes and dislikes, thoughts and memories and you find yourself surrounded by the ideal environment for you, personally. You also find yourself at the age that you would like to be, and in perfect health. If, in life on Earth, you had to suffer amputations of limbs, then on the other side you are whole again because your spirit body, while seeming just as solid and tangible as it did on Earth is formed out of thought energy. On the other side there are thousands of people who concern themselves with meeting new arrivals to help them adjust to the new conditions of Spirit and there are also thousands of others who come back to Earth in their now ideal form to help Earth-bound souls break with this side and to lead them on to the other side, where they can spiritually develop further. All this explains why deceased loved ones who appear to us in dreams, always seem to be at their finest age, say in their twenties to thirties - because that is the form they adopt "over there". Souls who just cannot break away from Earth, either because they love it too much and cannot conceive of anything better than material things, need to be "rescued" by spirits from the hereafter, who come to help them leave this world and progress to the next. The headless ghost who cannot find his way out of this world after a traumatic death, when finally rescued and led to the other side, will find himself whole again and in what, for him, would be ideal surroundings and in the company of many, many other people who are willing to guide him and care for him until he finds his own way to spiritual enlightenment. Lonecat

I must disagree to a point here because a lot of apparitions that are sighted are in the final moments of their life and therefore any and all of their ' abnormalities' are on full view. As a couple of examples let me put to you the cases of A. the girl who fetched the doctor. This happened in19th century Philadelphia. When the doctor, who was summoned by a "thin shivering girl pulling a threadbare shawl around her shoulders' mentioned to his patient who it was who brought him around to her house she immediately identified her as her daughter who had died a month before these events. The doctor even found the shawl, dry and put away in a cupboard!
B The Case of Admiral Sir George Tryon, who appeared to his wife and her guests the exact moment he died as he had appeared in real life.
And what abouth the 'white' and 'grey' ladies who suffered horrific deaths but still look as they did before they died?
I hope this may help.
Cheers
coldethyl
Energy has no shape really. I don't think we look anything like our bodies when we die.
_Nyx_
If I can't come back good looking, then I don't wanna come back at all.. tongue.gif
coldethyl
QUOTE(_Nyx_ @ Sep 18 2006, 10:58 AM) [snapback]1355036[/snapback]

If I can't come back good looking, then I don't wanna come back at all.. tongue.gif


w00t.gif Ah, you know you'll be a stunner in the afterlife!!
143
I am really slow today, more than usual so I will try to get this out as best as possible. I am on the fence about all this, I've heard we go to the other side and become 30 again. (Not exactly 30 but around that age.) This is a nice concept but when someone channeled my Grandma they described her the exact way she looked when she was buried. Except this person said she was wearing her glasses but was not burried with them. ?? I dunno.
Celumnaz
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Daniella2310
QUOTE(Becca L 143 @ Sep 18 2006, 04:01 PM) [snapback]1355281[/snapback]

I am really slow today, more than usual so I will try to get this out as best as possible. I am on the fence about all this, I've heard we go to the other side and become 30 again. (Not exactly 30 but around that age.) This is a nice concept but when someone channeled my Grandma they described her the exact way she looked when she was buried. Except this person said she was wearing her glasses but was not burried with them. ?? I dunno.

What if the person who dies was younger than 30?

Decapitated
Imagine having the ghost of Chris Farley who steals your food rather than haunt?

QUOTE
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.


But what if the holder is Sally Struthers?
jedi_yarael_poof
But what about hair? Could I grow a beard or get rid of my sideburns?
_Nyx_
Well, your hair does continue to grow for a time after you die.... tongue.gif
Jaguat
So do your fingernails.....
LizFL
QUOTE(Celumnaz @ Sep 18 2006, 02:18 PM) [snapback]1355312[/snapback]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.



I was always told that beauty is in the eye of the BEER holder....

Sorry...
I think it is possible to come back however you want, but since some spirits dont know they are dead, they project an image of how they looked when they died. Just my opinion tongue.gif
coldethyl
QUOTE(LizFL @ Sep 21 2006, 06:14 AM) [snapback]1359247[/snapback]

I think it is possible to come back however you want, but since some spirits dont know they are dead, they project an image of how they looked when they died. Just my opinion tongue.gif


I agree with that. That makes sense to me.
143
QUOTE(Daniella2310 @ Sep 18 2006, 06:40 PM) [snapback]1355487[/snapback]

What if the person who dies was younger than 30?


I really have no clue, I guess if when those who die are way way over 30, and have experienced many ages and times in their lives that could possibly have been the best memories, than 30 might be a general choice for most. LOL BUHH I dunno.

Edit: With response to your question maybe they just stay young I guess since they can't skip forward, theyve never been older than when they died, but if they reached the average age limit when the elderly pass on, they can go back to pick and choose. ????
Jaguat
QUOTE(LizFL @ Sep 21 2006, 09:14 PM) [snapback]1359247[/snapback]

I was always told that beauty is in the eye of the BEER holder....

Sorry...
I think it is possible to come back however you want, but since some spirits dont know they are dead, they project an image of how they looked when they died. Just my opinion tongue.gif

Good point.
Lady_Anvilabeel
Yeah, I would say the ones that are seen with missing body parts are either using there visual identity as a clue/message to there passing or they are spirits/ghosts unaware of their passing. I mention ghosts because ghosts commonly appear in the final moments before they died, the ghost of that person is imprinted in the residual energy. The spirit may be elsewhere.

I think that we have free will in spirit and can revert back to our happiest 'vibe' in life be it as the 80 year old or the young 21 year old..... Appearence is superfical anyway, in most cases a spirit would at least want to be recognizable to those that matter.....
Urisk
QUOTE(coldethyl @ Sep 18 2006, 04:43 PM) [snapback]1355006[/snapback]

Energy has no shape really. I don't think we look anything like our bodies when we die.


Yeah ditto, only I reckon since you're just pure energy, providing you can manifest, I reckon you can manifest as however you see fit. At least I hope so ohmy.gif I don't wanna lose my lovely locks and my 'burns!! no.gif

RKD
Jaguat
QUOTE(Roadkill Demon @ Sep 23 2006, 08:18 AM) [snapback]1361335[/snapback]

Yeah ditto, only I reckon since you're just pure energy, providing you can manifest, I reckon you can manifest as however you see fit. At least I hope so ohmy.gif I don't wanna lose my lovely locks and my 'burns!! no.gif

RKD

It's not a matter of what you want or don't want to appear to others' it's they way you died that is shown to the people you appear to............
Lonecat
QUOTE(Jaguat @ Sep 18 2006, 08:00 AM) [snapback]1354565[/snapback]

I must disagree to a point here because a lot of apparitions that are sighted are in the final moments of their life and therefore any and all of their ' abnormalities' are on full view. As a couple of examples let me put to you the cases of A. the girl who fetched the doctor. This happened in19th century Philadelphia. When the doctor, who was summoned by a "thin shivering girl pulling a threadbare shawl around her shoulders' mentioned to his patient who it was who brought him around to her house she immediately identified her as her daughter who had died a month before these events. The doctor even found the shawl, dry and put away in a cupboard!
B The Case of Admiral Sir George Tryon, who appeared to his wife and her guests the exact moment he died as he had appeared in real life.
And what abouth the 'white' and 'grey' ladies who suffered horrific deaths but still look as they did before they died?
I hope this may help.
Cheers


Yes I see what you mean but I think you have missed my point which was that the ghosts which appear in tragic state or injured as they were in - say - a car crash, are the ones who have not yet been able to leave Earth. "The thin, shivering little girl" would not yet have broken free of Earth-side. These are the ones that the "rescuers" try to help and guide them to the other-Life-side. Lonecat yes.gif
Lonecat
QUOTE(Daniella2310 @ Sep 18 2006, 10:40 PM) [snapback]1355487[/snapback]

What if the person who dies was younger than 30?


People who die at an early age, pass over to the other side and are cared for by other people already there, until the youngsters have grown to maturity. There is an interesting case on record of a man named Sid Hopkins who died and, when he passed over to the other side (which is just like Earth but without the negative elements), he was met by an unknown young man who addressed him as "Dad". The new arrival said "I'm not your father" and the young man replied, "Yes your are. Remember the baby son who died shortly after he was born? That was me and now am grown up". For the exact words listen to the recording Sid Hopkins. We are told this by Mr. Hopkins during a session of Live Voice Communication. You can download a fascinating selection of people's voices from the Hereafter which is available at the link below. I am currently passing these recordings onto CDs. Many people, on first hearing these recordings, will of course claim that they are fake. I suggest you listen to as many of them as possible and hear what they have to say. I, myself, have tried to work out how one would fake them as they are done over a period of years and the characters of those recorded so widely varied that I accept them, at least as a working hypothesis, as bona fide recordings of messages from the next world or dimension. Even supposing them to be "faked", the very content of their messages ring true and are so filled with sensible ideas that they could well serve as a guide to any person's Earthly life. They stress the need for more spiruality in the life of Mankind and are anxious for all humans to know of the reality of the continuation of all life after the change of state which we call "Death". All of the people from the other side concurr that death is not to be feared but is a cause for rejoicing. You will have to study this website in great depth before coming to hasty conclusions. Below is the link to the Live Voice Recordings and a few suggestions of mine as examples of the "spirit" of these messages. Lonecat yes.gif thumbsup.gif

http://freewebs.com/afterlife/flint/flintrecordings.htm

Sid Hopkins - 4619K - 24 minutes
killed in a fall from a tree he meets a young man that calls him 'Dad' and finds it to be the son he had forgotten about having that died at infancy - and there was Timmy, his dog, wagging his tail - finds his old cronies can't see him because he is on a different vibration

Frederick Olsen - 5033K - 27 minutes - recorded 1967
the value of afterlife knowledge in making the transition

Father Bernard - 5170K - 27 minutes - recorded 1969
spiritual communication opening the eyes of those who dwell in darkness - the value of these tapes in transforming the thinking of the world

Mary Ivan - 3851K - 20 minutes - recorded 1966
came to consciousness in the spirit world in a hospital like room surrounded by 'dead' friends and relatives - Do you know, no one need fear dying because it's the most wonderful thing, it's the most exciting thing that could ever happen to anyone. No one need ever worry about it.

Dr. Cosmo Lang 3 - 9045K - 48 minutes - recorded 1967
man and all life is spirit - found his earth ignorance was appalling - all forms of life are indestructible - all spirit is the same animating force - the material life is only one little episode in the great cavalcade of spiritual progression





mike1
QUOTE(Roadkill Demon @ Sep 22 2006, 11:18 PM) [snapback]1361335[/snapback]

Yeah ditto, only I reckon since you're just pure energy, providing you can manifest, I reckon you can manifest as however you see fit. At least I hope so ohmy.gif I don't wanna lose my lovely locks and my 'burns!! no.gif

RKD



Can't wait to get there mate!! - Good opportunity to re-acquire some locks!! grin2.gif
Jaguat
QUOTE(LizFL @ Sep 21 2006, 09:14 PM) [snapback]1359247[/snapback]

I was always told that beauty is in the eye of the BEER holder....

Sorry...
I think it is possible to come back however you want, but since some spirits dont know they are dead, they project an image of how they looked when they died. Just my opinion tongue.gif

That's what I said! GOOD TO SEE I AM NOT ALONE......
Jaguat
QUOTE(Lonecat @ Sep 24 2006, 08:38 PM) [snapback]1362995[/snapback]

People who die at an early age, pass over to the other side and are cared for by other people already there, until the youngsters have grown to maturity. There is an interesting case on record of a man named Sid Hopkins who died and, when he passed over to the other side (which is just like Earth but without the negative elements), he was met by an unknown young man who addressed him as "Dad". The new arrival said "I'm not your father" and the young man replied, "Yes your are. Remember the baby son who died shortly after he was born? That was me and now am grown up". For the exact words listen to the recording Sid Hopkins. We are told this by Mr. Hopkins during a session of Live Voice Communication. You can download a fascinating selection of people's voices from the Hereafter which is available at the link below. I am currently passing these recordings onto CDs. Many people, on first hearing these recordings, will of course claim that they are fake. I suggest you listen to as many of them as possible and hear what they have to say. I, myself, have tried to work out how one would fake them as they are done over a period of years and the characters of those recorded so widely varied that I accept them, at least as a working hypothesis, as bona fide recordings of messages from the next world or dimension. Even supposing them to be "faked", the very content of their messages ring true and are so filled with sensible ideas that they could well serve as a guide to any person's Earthly life. They stress the need for more spiruality in the life of Mankind and are anxious for all humans to know of the reality of the continuation of all life after the change of state which we call "Death". All of the people from the other side concurr that death is not to be feared but is a cause for rejoicing. You will have to study this website in great depth before coming to hasty conclusions. Below is the link to the Live Voice Recordings and a few suggestions of mine as examples of the "spirit" of these messages. Lonecat yes.gif thumbsup.gif

http://freewebs.com/afterlife/flint/flintrecordings.htm

Sid Hopkins - 4619K - 24 minutes
killed in a fall from a tree he meets a young man that calls him 'Dad' and finds it to be the son he had forgotten about having that died at infancy - and there was Timmy, his dog, wagging his tail - finds his old cronies can't see him because he is on a different vibration

Frederick Olsen - 5033K - 27 minutes - recorded 1967
the value of afterlife knowledge in making the transition

Father Bernard - 5170K - 27 minutes - recorded 1969
spiritual communication opening the eyes of those who dwell in darkness - the value of these tapes in transforming the thinking of the world

Mary Ivan - 3851K - 20 minutes - recorded 1966
came to consciousness in the spirit world in a hospital like room surrounded by 'dead' friends and relatives - Do you know, no one need fear dying because it's the most wonderful thing, it's the most exciting thing that could ever happen to anyone. No one need ever worry about it.

Dr. Cosmo Lang 3 - 9045K - 48 minutes - recorded 1967
man and all life is spirit - found his earth ignorance was appalling - all forms of life are indestructible - all spirit is the same animating force - the material life is only one little episode in the great cavalcade of spiritual progression

Yeah, if you can believe their responses as being true........ huh.gif
Lone Ranger
QUOTE(OuijaBored @ Sep 17 2006, 06:21 AM) [snapback]1353404[/snapback]

hmmmm...never thought about that...interesting concept

I'm sure your ghost will be attractive as you are OuijBored cool.gif
evil_mika
well ghosts are ghosts because they haven't passed on to the other side, right? i mean, they're stuck here thinking that they're still alive, so why wouldn't they look how they did when they were living? maybe the fat ghosts don't have the energy to take human form, because they're so out of shape.
Ouija
QUOTE(OuijaBored @ Sep 16 2006, 11:21 PM) [snapback]1353404[/snapback]

hmmmm...never thought about that...interesting concept


LMAO!!!

shoot, i know when i die imma be fine as hell. cool.gif
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