Arhat

The above link is to a website I wrote about my encounter with a Ouija Board and then the subsequent events that went on for 10 years until God found me.

Although certain concepts may seem really 'far out' please try to keep an open mind. As every experience indeed happened to me.





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I think i suffered more than you by just playing that board.
I considered myself dead a long time ago.
Devine intervention is the only proper word that i'm still here on earth.
I wanted to write my stories too but it's too f...long and english is not my language.
-you're not alone~

Wow, i really don't know what to say after reading that. I don't know if fascinating is the right word. I've never experienced anything on the level you are speaking of and it's really hard for me to understand what you must have went throu.

I'm often very confused and don't know what to believe in anymore. At times i feel there in no God because it seems as if all i see is pain and suffering on Earth. I chose not to confide in the devil but i'm very confused and i feel lost most of the time and i'm afraid of death and confused of the after life.

I guess i've been trying to find enlightment but don't know where to turn.

My life by no means has been bad but i have made alot of mistakes that plague my consciousness now and i just feel very alone and not sure where my life is headed because it feels like a dead end to me.

I've never had any experiences with the paranormal and the demon world really terrorfies me so i hope to never come in contact with it although i believe fully in all that you've encountered in your writings.

It sounds like to me an unrequited teenage crush that got way out of control. Your way of dealing with it or living the fantasy was to transfer those feelings and fuel it by using the ouija board. Total obession....

I doubt very much you were talking to demons, this has the hallmarks of classic navieness and gullabilty. I'm not meaning to come across as harsh because there's no doubt you suffered and had a terrible time but I am just giving my opinion here.

I would say that you got fooled by a low level conehead spirit, you were easy prey because you so desperately wanted to hear what you were feeling.

Your story however is a great example and warning of the psychological damage that Ouija Boards can cause in naive hands. While I do believe that ouija boards can work, they should never be relyed on for life descions or such. It should be treated as nothing more than light entertainment.

Excellent answer, as usual.

Thanks for your input.

However, regarding Demons i believe i would know a little more than you, seeing as I have had to almost study how they work in order to exorcise myself with Jesus Christ as my saviour

They are basically a force of lies, an anti life. They seek a host they can manipulate into turning away from the light and God so they can exist within you comfortably. They will use any means necessary to gain a host, and they will always seek out your weakest point to manipulate you with. Every 'visionary' experience I had at a point was brutal, ugly and blasphemous. The delusions i experienced were the Demonic lies I was being fed from the start of my Ouija experience as has been revealed to me by Christ.

I have done nothing but seek enlightenment in this phase of my life. Any and every man has the right to be saved by God should he choose. If my Divine experiences of the present were delusional it would mean, for me, that Jesus Christ is the biggest liar of them all

If you are suggesting that I am obsessed or psychologically damaged in writing my experiences down then you really have not read or understood hardly any of my writing. I can understand some concepts are very advanced, but Jesus himself has shown me and, for my souls sake, I have had no choice but to accept.



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I believe you 100% Buzz. Not a doubt in my mind. By the way i sent you a PM. Demons use weaknesses to basically take hold of your soul. Trust me when I say I have said stuff God won't ever forgive. Please guys, go to church, love god and jesus with all your heart and try to be a good person. Live like Jesus wants you to live. Through HIM!.

I think it is wonderful that he was eventually open enough to see what was going on and made that difficult choice for a difficult but rewarding journey into the light.

Not trying to be rude or anything here, but it sounds like a bout with OCD to me.

You got my vote.

Sounds like someone that try's to promote their religion.

Thats funny really, seeing as I am not promoting any religion at all.

I have no religious beliefs. In fact im completely against it

Im simply sharing the experinces in my spiritual life. I did expect this sort of attitude towards it. Ignorance and presumption to be honest

Anyway, peace.....





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I think you misunderstood what I ment by that. I ment going back to the time when you were experiencing/living through what you were. It just sounded to me like the ouija board took over your life as well as the feelings you had for this girl. The two combined fueled each other, rather than getting to know or find out from the girl herself, it sounded like you 'admired' from a distance and used the ouija board to find out.

When I talked about the psychological danger of ouija boards, this seemd a pretty good example. They can be addicitve and people can get caught up in using them for every life desicion and turn. The truth is such tools can never replace the process of actually finding out for yourself or actually living the experience. The way you described and method of using the ouija board also came across as naive, I think you were fooled by a mischievous low level spirit, you believed to readily in what it was saying.

To put it this way, say you are in a chatroom and someone called 'Satan' and 'Bob Marely' comes in and tells you they are infact these people, would you believe them?

So why should it be any different with something like a ouija board? You asked if 'anyone' was there, classic mistake to make and never underestimate the power of such an open invitation to the spirit world. You had no use or concept of protection either or what to do if something low level was to come along. I hope you see where I'm comming from a little clearer now....

The whole talk about um religion...blah blah hoopity hoop blah

Very good point Anvil.

Hey Buzzsaw...

What a great story! There are some things I don't understand, and I know you did warn readers that it would be advanced, but can I ask a question? At first, it seems like you were head over heels for a girl in your school named Annaliese. Then, after you are revealed the truth in your meditation with Jesus, you say that Annaliese had fallen in love with you in her heaven. What? The same one? Please explain this so I can understand.

As far as whether or not you were talking to demons or not, I am not going to try to determine. Perception is reality, I think, so if you believe you were being controlled by demons, then you were. But, you mentioned that you were in a care home. Were you ever diagnosed with a form of schizophrenia? The signs are there for a diagnoses; the delusions, the fixation, the delusion of grandiosity...I am not being sarcastic or judgmental. Like I said, it was your reality.

You also said in this thread that if you were to admit that the demons were not real, then Jesus Christ would have to be the biggest lie of all. Let's say for a moment that you did admit that ALL of it was a hallucination. Where would you be? Would you be overcome with sadness and despair again? Or could you believe that just because these experiences were manifested by your own consciousness and have shaped the last ten years of your life, they were made within you. The good and the evil that were demonstrated in your incredible story may have been the way that your particular mind worked out questions that most people begin to ask about their faith, their beliefs, and where they stand. It wouldn't mean that Jesus, God, demons, evil and good are not REAL, it would just mean that they aren't what was influencing you exactly how you perceived it.

Im not trying to change your mind, or prove you wrong, or give you some sort of revelation. I just felt so sad for you when you said that if you admitted that the evil (demons, satan, pain, despair, anger) were all in your head, then the good (God, Jesus, the love you felt for Annaliese) had to be a lie as well. I just don't think thats the way it has to be.

Bobby Darko:

I was right where you are not too long ago. I am not going to tell you that I have any answers for you, cause it's everyone's journey, but I can tell you what helped me to get a little bit of a clearer picture of what I believe.

The first thing is to figure out what you DONT believe. Its always easier to eliminate. When you have a handful of things left that you haven't ruled out, then research them!

Thats how I started off anyhow. I think that perception is reality, so as long as what you believe helps you in YOUR life, then it is correct.

Alot clearer, thanks for that.

Well, lets talk about a low level mischevious spirit then.. Remember, I am the only one who saw into my own consciousness at that time and therefore know it first hand. I lived with this thing inside my energy field, I actually watched it grow in its hate for me. As i fell further and further away from the 'light' (sanity, god, etc..) with its blasphemous suggestions Its torment of me grew hugely. The more ground it gained the darker my experience became. It got to the point were it wanted me not only spiritually dead but physically dead. I know this because at my weakest times it actually wanted me to be aware it was in me, because it would hurt basically. At the point where I would have commited suicide it had started to make me aware that it was watching me, ready to enjoy it.

Its 'intent' for me was my demise basically. "low level spirit"? It wanted me spiritually devoid and then dead. Quite simple, it was evil.

I appreciate that my story can be ripped to shreds and re-analysed over and over again. However, it would probably seem that the person who actually went through it would know their own experience better than an outsider, no offense

I was a spiritually niave kid, no doubt about it. If this can serve as a warning of naive use of the Ouija then I would be happy




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-double post-

Its hard to explain how it works.. Basically when you get to Heaven you have the choice of being able to 'view' your own life, and the lives of people you have known. If its the will of the Divine it seems you can even 'interact' as a 'spirit guide' say...

There was actually a documentary I saw that suggested this very strongly. Its a scientific theory that in the future we will become so advanced that we will be able to create replicas of the past. Like a computer simulation. Although it was suggested that this would be through the use of science, heaven already works that way through 'spiritual' power.

Example: When i had my dark experiences with the demon and my psychosis I had no-one who understood me. There are of course people who would want to understand what i was going through, and would choose from 'Heaven', like my family.

In a sense it would mean they were there with me, in a way

It is not Annalise in heaven that that is contact with you, nor is she communicating to you through another dimension.

Let it go.

The whole purpose of life is to love and be loved.
It is the purpose of having flesh and blood to be able to reach out to each other.
Clinging to spirits as your sole source of love is to deny the gift of life itself.

Well Said Bella.

Damn, that is probably the best advice i have heard...Awesome post bella

Thank you for giving me some advice.

For some reason I can't find the link to the story, it keeps telling me that it moved. If so, could someone help me out here?

That would actually be sound advice in a certain situation..

However, im dying

Passing on etc... so that would mean that I can believe whatever I want to about the after life

If Jesus himself has shown me then it would make sense wouldnt it?

Thanks for the lovely 'advice' but i think ill remain happy about the place im going to when i leave here

Im kinda interested in what gives nice people like you so much insight into other peoples very spiritual experiences.. hmmm.. especially since you do not even know me but can 'seem' to claim you are wiser.. at least to yourself... I suppose it may be that you have never experienced anything on that level so therefore try to pull me down to your level of faith? hmm...



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I don't think extreme sarcasm is valid here Buzz.

Also, the ironic aspect of your post attacking bella is that you are doing the very thing you accuse her of, namely assuming wisdom over others.

The main difference here is that you sound like a psychotic.

Whereas Bella sounds like she is giving well thought out advice which is strongly rooted not only in common sense, but also in most Major Religions.

If the whole world says the sky is blue and one person says it's green hazelnut frou frou, the sky is still blue.

Just my opinion.

My last post in this topic. Im not actually being sarcastic.. I have a terminal illness.

I just happen to know where im going. Its what God does when people come to this stage in their life and are open enough to accept.

Sorry if I came across as offensive.. I was just defending my faith


Peace..

Okay he's done then.

Can this be closed?

Im sorry to hear about your terminal illness, whatever you have experienced is what you have claimed all along, only yours. So with that, it's nice to hear you have a pleasant place awaiting for you, I also believe that there is nothing wrong with having faith in continuing unto a pleasant place after I, and those I love, are gone.

Cheers.

Everyone has the capacity for good and evil, Those that cannot control "evil" impulses commit crime..and the rest of us.. balance on the edge.

I was possessed once after a night on the town, I walked into my room and felt what can only be decribed as Pure Terror, wash over me for a second.
Something was in my body for a second but left, in the morning I had 2 lumps on my forhead(horns??). ...
People have always found me creepy..for some reason.