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War on terror is a scam!!

"In January of 2003 FBI and CIA whistleblowers told Capitol Hill Blue that the White House was scripting phony terror alerts to maintain hysteria, upkeep President Bushs approval ratings and milk extra defense funding. The report that five Pakistani men had entered the States via Canada and were planning on carrying out a dirty bomb or biological attack was completely conjured up by the Bush administrations black propaganda office. New York Harbor was shut down to visibly pump up the fear. One of the named suspects, Mohammed Asghar (pictured left), was tracked down to Pakistan by the Associated Press. He was a fat guy running a jewellers shop and had never even been to America.


http://infowars.com/articles/sept11/red_al...rror_attack.htm

I am going to give reasons proving The U.S. Govt did it, how they did it, and at the end I am going to give reasons why they did it.

1. Operation Northwoods, "N E W Y O R K, May 1, 2001 In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba.":
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&am...2662&page=1

2. Alex Jones Predicts Attack (Mentioned on FOX news): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8...ttack&hl=en

3. God Help Us: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=20...ction&hl=en

4. At least 4 hijackers turned up alive, but i heard as many as 9

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1559151.stm

5. The melting Point of Steel is 3000F and Fire is around 500-700F with burning Jet fuel around 1200-1400F. Skeptics have claimed, Steel doesnt Have to melt, but only weaken to collpase, This May be true, HOWEVER, It would not make a 1/4 Mile High Skyscraper, Collapse in 9-10 Seconds.

6. An increase of 400% increase in put options on 9-6-01 and 9-7-01 on serveral airline stocks. An increase of 1100% Increase an in increase of put options on airline stocks on 9-10-01

7. FBI confinscated tapes at a nearby hotel and gas station minutes after the "plane" hit the pentagon.

8. Debris from the building was taken and illegally sold to china before anybody could really investigate.

9. If you watch the video of the towers coming down, You can notice bombs going off in the building.

10. Larry Silverstein Admitted blowing up WTC7 On a PBS Documentary. Skeptics Have Claimed He meant He was Pulling the Firefighters From the Building. Thats Funny, I thought When you call a person or persons "him" "them" or "em" not "it". Meanwhile The firefighters Were already Pulled from the Building 7 Houes before it Collpased. Skeptics Have Claimed, Well Maybe he did hit the Dynamite, But It takes severals weeks for them to carefully place explosives in a building. Call any Demolition Company.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7...ll+it&hl=en

11. Larry Silverstein got High Insurance on WTC7 Including terrosm insurance.

12. 6 Months Before 9/11 They passed laws saying No pilots can carry guns, when pilots were allowed to carry guns for 40 years. (I am not sure this is 100% Accurate, I need to look into this more. Please Let me know if you find anything.)

13. As Charlie Sheen said, How can a plane make a 270 degree turn and drop 7000 feet in attitude in less then 2 minutes?

14. I heard it is impossible for cell phones to work on planes moving at 500mph and at 30000 Feet.

15. The "hijackers" said the wrong islamic message when approaching death. Who was

16. Survivors and Eye witnesses Reporting seeing, hearing explosions.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=20...HTERS&hl=en Laugh at the Firefighters!!

17. Thermite was found at the scene. BYU Professor Steve E. Jones Have tested Postive some substance for Thermite, It was later Proven to cut the Main Pillars in the World Trade Center. It was the yellow goowy substance Dripping From the towers as CNN, FOX, Etc reported on 9/11/01.

http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,635198488,00.html

18. Janitor was offered Millions of dallors to shut up and he refused, or so he said. See Video #6

19. Science Says Buildings Collasping CAN NOT fall at the speed of gravity unless Dynimite.

20. In the New American Century Dick Cheney Said We need a new Pearl Harbor. "Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event — like a new Pearl Harbor."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_t...merican_Century

21. Less then 15 Million Was spend Investigating 9-11 and more then 45 Million on Clintons Sex Life. (Appox)

22. How can a 757 That is 129' Wide Make a 16' Hole?

23. Between Both Engines on Flight 77 Or a 757, Its combined weight is 10-12 Tons. It is made of Steel And Titnium. Its melting Point is around 2600F. The Fire didnt get anywhre near that tempurature at the Pentagon. Yet No Engines Were Found.

24. You think fire can cause this?:

http://www.proliberty.com/observer/20060820.htm

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles...on.com+%2F+News

25. Bush say the First Plane hit the First Tower! LOL!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F6kouXg40Q...ated&search

26. Jimmy Walter Is offering $100,000 To Anybody Who can Prove 9/11 Was NOT An Inside Job. Even PM Couldnt Stand Up.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article....RTICLE_ID=41957

For more evidence watch these films:

1. http://www.loosechange911.com

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=78...hange&hl=en

2. 9/11 The Greatest Lie ever sold: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=69...+SOLD&hl=en

3. 9/11 the Road to Tyranny: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6...ranny&hl=en

4. Masters of Terror: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=77...STERS+OF+TERROR

5. Martial Law: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6...OF+POLICE+STATE

6. C-SPAN conference: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5...AMERICAN+C+SPAN

7. TerrorStorm: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5...storm&hl=en



Now I am going to give you why they did it, then i will share some links.

1. Patriot act

2. Patriot act 2

3. Eliminate the Consitution

4. Bring forth the NWO

5. Bankrupt the USA to bring forth a NWO

6. Scare americans to give up there right in exchange for "security" when you will just get tyranny and a police state.

7. Justify an Iraq War.

8. Bring forth a Real ID Act, which was passed on 5-11-05, and then the "mark of the beast"

9. To Pretty Much Allow Bush to do anything He wants. Look at this:

http://mathaba.net/0_index.shtml?x=504353

Now if you want links goto http://www.911blogger.com/ and check that out and there are 50 links on the right hand side.

Also check out http://www.infowars.com http://prisonplanet.com http://www.jonesreport.com

Last But not Least:

[url=http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils######in######Government/911######Cover-up/truth_about_911.htm[/url]

http://www.prisonplanet.com/911.html

Hitler Once Said, The Bigger the Lie, The easier it is Believed.

Thank You for reading, We must fight this and expose this and resist The New World Order, and Resist the cashless society.

Why not? It's identical to pretty much all the others.

I used this post on several Forums, Some Pull it.

Brilliant post Sleepy2k16 Been looking at it for about an hour, saved a lot of stuff to go back and have a look at.

Be sure to check out this site when you're done to see how incredibly wrong nearly all these points are.

Thanks TK0001 i will read this too, I try to keep my mind as open as possible.

sleepy2k16,

May I suggest that you take the point from your list that you feel lends to most credance to your claim and spin it off to a seperate thread for discussion. I fear by listing so many points in this one thread it will devolve as many others into massives posts attempting to address all points and nothing really gets resolved.

Another 911 thread.

Ok, If ANYONE here actually believes this could be remotely possible.....then I honestly feel sorry for you:

TITLE:

All the people who would have to be involved in order to pull this massive conspiracy off.

-The Bush Administration, who failed at everything they ever did. Yet all of them and the people below are helping him cover up the largest mass murder in US history...

-The NYC Fire fighters who know more about building collapses than most if not all of them. Many of these men and women come from the military yet we are to believe they are so afraid they rather die in the governments next mass murder than come out and expose this.

-The courts for imposing a gag rule

-The NYC Police department who lost over 20 lives. They didn't ask for an investigation. Motive? None...

-The NYC port Authority who lost personnel. Motive?

-All the people in the pentagon who have not called for an investigation. Many who are liberal and centrist. They did or said nothing while people supposedly truck in airplane parts to cover the crime. Why? again, no answer...

-The more than 1,600 widows and widowers of 9/11 who rather have investigations of the decisions which lead to the terrorist getting away with this. They don't want to waste time investigating the mass murder of their loved ones. Even the Jersey Girls. Why? They say it's the money... [note: Whenever killing someone, pay off the relative. They wont say anything.]

-The media (This one I almost believe) who doesn't follow up on the biggest mass murder and conspiracy in American history. It seems no one wants a Nobel prize for journalism. Not only the American media but foreign press like like the BBC and Al Jeezera. Why? No answer here either...

-The photographers from around the world who took pictures of the towers which clearly show bowing of the perimeter columns. These photos support the NIST hypothesis that the sagging trusses lead to the collapse. Some photos also show the core intact shortly after collapse which also not only support the NIST hypothesis but discredits the "Controlled demolition" account.

-Popular Mechanics who debunked these sites are also helping Bush commit the biggest mass murder in history.

-PBS Nova since they created a documentary explaining in detail how and why the buildings fell. None of it said bomb.

-Everyone in the NIST who covers up the largest mass murder in US history. This independent org doesn't have a moral person in hundreds of employees because not one has come out exposing this so called "Conspiracy". In fact the hundreds of scientist who signed onto the report are willing to not only lie for Bush but cover up the largest mass murder in American history. Some suggest only a hand full can do the job but that's simply impossible. The team in charge of the computer modeling has to be in sync with the team in structural engineers and so on. There are hundreds involved in this investigation and every team has to work other teams using the same evidence and specifications.

-NY Governor Pataki because he sold steel to from the WTC for the construction of the USS New York. If the argument is the government sold the steel in order to cover up the crime then Pataki is one of the criminals.

-The NY city scrap yards because they also sold steel to china before all of it was tested. Bush would have needed to call them up and tell them to sell it before they could have investigated every beam. A task which would have taken years and years not to mention millions more. Ironically the republican Mayor Bloomberg could not be involved since he asked the scrap yards not to sell the steel on behalf of the fire fighters.

-EVERY STRUCTURAL ENGINEER IN THE WORLD who doesn't write a paper for a mainstream peer reviewed journal saying the towers were brought down and could not have fallen due to fire. If laymen can prove things just by looking at videos and reading interviews out of context then all those structural engineers MUST be working for Bush right? Even the ones in other countries. Why? The answer they give is the engineers don't know about Jones work. So in all this time no one has e-mailed Jones's work to any structural engineer?

-The liberals who don't believe the towers were brought down. They're helping a neo-con cover-up the largest mass murder in this nation’s history. Why" No clue...

-The CIA

-The FBI

-FEMA

-The American Society of Civil Engineers who have produced peer reviewed papers showing how what Conspiracy Theorist say is impossible is possible.

-NORAD

-The FAA who saw planes which conspiracy theorist never existed.

-The Silverstein Group who they say got together with Bush to blow up the building for insurance money.

-Silverstein's Insurance Company who didn't question the collapse and paid out over 2 billion to Silverstein. Why? Conspiracy Theorist say the insurance company just wants to pass on the bill to the public but they already fought Silverstein in a number of law suits concerning the amount.

-American Airlines (Pentagon)

-United Airlines (Pentagon)

-Logan, Newark and Dulles Airport for losing the planes

-Scientists and engineers who developed the remote control plane technology

-Installers of the remote control devices in the planes (Pentagon)

-Remote controllers of the planes (Pentagon)

-Scientists and engineers who developed the new demolition technology and carried out practical tests and computer models to make sure it would work.

-Installers of the demolitions devices in the three buildings

-People who worked at the company(s) the installers used as cover

-Airphone etc employees who said they got calls from passengers (Pentagon)

-Faux friends and relatives of the faux passengers or just the faux relatives who claim to have been called by their loved ones or just the psyops who fooled relatives into thinking they really were their loved ones. (Pentagon)

-People who detonated the buildings"

-anyone who thinks the conspiracy is a diversion to take liberal activist focus off of real crimes.

Even conspiracies with a few people are doomed, Look at Enron and Watergate. The more people you involved the more likely the conspiracy will fall apart. The amount of people needed for this conspiracy could fill one of the towers. It's absurd to think this many people could keep a mass murder for Bush secret for this long.



Controlled demolition!!!!!??

No planes?!

Perhaps someone should tell that to Stanley Praimnath who was on the 81st floor of WTC 2.

"What I see is a big plane coming towards me. This plane is coming, eye level towards me. Eye contact. I'm seeing a big gray plane, with a red stripe.

The plane impacts. I try to get up and then I realize that I'm covered up to my shoulder in debris. And when I'm digging through under all this rubble, I can see the bottom wing starting to burn, and that wing is wedged 20 feet in my office doorway. "


Sorry but I'll listen to the people that were there and actually saw the events occuring with their own eyes over someone who's entire claim is "Everyone else is lying to you." If a plane didn't hit the Pentagon explain how the wreakage got there, this was not a small amount either, it was quite a pile and included passanger luggage as well as pieces of fuselage, seats, glass from windows, the data flight recorders for Flight 77 and engine parts. How come all the passangers and the crew's remains (except for one small girl) were recovered from the Pentagon, or are you going to claim all the rescue services were in on it too?

How many people do you claim are in on this? Let's see so far as I can tell, all the survivors, all of those in Manhatten who saw the planes that morning. All of those in Washington DC that saw them. The check in staff at Logon and Boston who saw and identified the Hijackers (including one girl who commited suicide because of what she considered her part in not stopping them.) Every firefighter, ambulance worker and police officer who attended the three scene, including those that were killed. Every Structural Engineer, half the CT crowd, nearly everyone on boards that actually know what they are talking about.

So what's that? At least a 100,000 people? (probably more.) How exactly do you shut up that many people? You can't pay them all $10 million, that'd be $10 Trillion. The US GDP is only $11 Trillion. So how do you keep them from spilling the beans? How do you stop them taking the money and spilling the beans? By threatening to kill them? If so, what's to stop the same killers coming after you?

Even the conspiracy lovers would have to think -anyone who believes this needs to seek the nearest mental health professional.

Conspiracists in general, and 9/11 conspiracists in particular, will not criticize any claim, no matter how blatantly at odds with reality or with the the other conspiracy stories, as long as it "supports" the overall existence of the conspiracy.

This is because they are interested in lashing out at the perceived power structure, not in discovering any kind of objective truth.


God help anyone ignorant enough to buy into this crap.

Its easier like this.


When will these people learn? After WW3 Breaks out and 2 Billion people die. It will be too late.

yeah why would you listen to your common sense when you view the collpase of bldg 7?-- why would you listen to multitudes of republican,dems,military personel or academic scholars that have come forward proclaiming THEIR belief that 9/11 was an inside job?-- why would you pay any attention to the loads of evidence pointing to a huge insurance scam tied in with an illegal war for oil and defense pork barrels? or much less pay any attention to the eye witnesses of that day like you claim above??-- are these eye witnesses,many veterans,being vague in these clips? are these quotes taken out of context? the truth reveals itself-- here in these testimonies and especially in the video of bldg 7 collasping-- you guys think a goat herder can jump into the cockpit of a big bird and navigate hundreds of miles away without air traffic control assistance-- performs a 270 degree turn while diving seven thousand feet at 400 mph knocking down lightposts while leveling off to such a perfect approach that an engine penetrates three rings of the pentagon without even touching the grass and WE are the conspiracy theorists?


9/11 NBC News broadcast with Albert Turi the Chief of Safety for the New York Fire Department-MUST HEAR
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panzer bldg demolition in detroit


similar "unconventional" wtc demolition 9/11

Suno:

Excellent Pictures, Do you Mind if I use them on my site?

Just to let it be known: Sunofone has made that exact same post at least three times in this forum alone, and it's been refuted exhaustively. This, of course, doesn't stop him from posting it, though.

Sleepy - basically my contention is that if one truly wants to believe that the government did it, no amount of evidence, logic, common sense, or expert analysis will sway him. He needs to be willing to admit he might be wrong first before any of that stuff can sink in. What we have with Sunfone and a few others are people who refuse to be wrong about anything they say...no matter how wrong it is.

If you really want to debate this in an effort to educate yourself, possibly learning something in the process, I'll put in the effort. But if your mind's already made up and you're not interested in taking into account the facts presented by the other side, then it's a waste of time.

*cough* this layered dust fold is from collapsing floor levels- The towers did collapse, or so I thought.

ok please explain to us then why the next row of windows and every progressive row below that did NOT exhibit the same features?

squibs i say

Sunny98, this is what I was referring to on the other thread

...see what I mean? Sunofone, you need some education in history, mate.

right...uhh here in the usa your mate is your significant other in reproduction soo... essentially i aint your mate-- so can i assume that you believe it would be relatively simple for an educated intellectual to learn enough about a 757 from simulations and cesna lessons to take over a commercial airliner in mid-flight and navigate across multiple states hundreds of miles without instrumentation or air traffic control assistance staring at a window full of clouds and then perform a 270 degree turn WHILE descending 7000 ft leveling off enough to miss the amazing pentalawn yet penetrate three rings in the pentagon itself???

i dont think thats possible but i just wanna add this keep an open mind?
in 1943 the british royal airforce devised and completed with success
a plan using a lancaster bomber in pitch black flying only 65ft from the ground under very very heavy anti aircraft fire to drop bouncing bombs on german dams.
without airtraffic control and no land marks hardly!!
in pitch black.at 250 miles an hour..ok thats slow now but then add all those guns blazing away.
and the people flying those bombers were the very best in the world at the time.
but its just a point that with todays technology that mission would be a piss in the ocean.
im on your side here but dont just go down the beaten track.

Yes.

Next?

To the Conspiracy theorist,
We have worked hard and is very proud of our accomplishment on 9/11. We have people who made sacrifice and did a very fine job that successfully showed the whole world how much we hate and want to kill the Americans. How dare you now try to give that credit to the US government! You people are driving us crazy! It's our accomplishment!


Sincerely,
Al Queda

it would help if you told them to lie low for awhile afterwards?
rather then going shopping in new york london and paris for all the world to see!!!!
and if u undertake any further missions of this enourmous nature please leave some kind of solid evidence..
it really does cause havoc otherwise theres a good chap.


p.s
and for godsakes at least dont inform us so people can do these insurance scams it costs a fortune dont you know..
yours sincerly.
mr bloggs

Well, mate, Me and the majority of the worlds poulation aren't from the good ol' USofA, so I don't really give a tinkers what the word means to you. In answer to your question (thanks TK), I have met a pilot of 15 years who avers that with the aid of a texta (marker, sharpie) a complete novice could indeed fly a 757 into any building, by the simple method of keeping a horizon mark on the target.
I'm not saying they weren't lucky (or that the targets were unlucky)but to be frank, flying the planes would have been one of the easier parts of what is, after all, a complex and extremely wide ranging plan.

Due to gravity, collapsing occurs {using science here and not imagination of course} top to bottom, not vice versa.. as this photo reflects. This photo is an apparent (present tense) Collapsing from TOP to BOTTOM- These folds exist above this circle.... faded folds, but folds nontheless....in transcending order--

Anyhoo, What was the bomb? Where is this proof? About where was it's location? Where's proof?

I'm mean this is like saying suddenly "we've found out the world is NOT round, but triangler!" It's absurd.

Dear God it's so pathetic it's almost laughable..---And apparently the underbelly as to why this theory exist as of now. So, the truth of it is, it's not about whether they {"goat herders "}
have the motives to cause such an attack, or even that the CTheoritst even have the genuine evidence to back this nonsense up; BUT, instead, this theory boils down to ----whether they ("goat herders") have the intelligence, & financial resources to do an attack with this magnitude . <I could laugh at this point, but I know this is serious, so I wont>
Take some courses in Sociology, Cultural Antropology, Society and Culture, Western Civilization, World history, etc;, once you CT folks understand the extent of these people's intelligence, religion, culture, economy-- or just an inkling of their mentality or mindset--- you're headed into brick wall, and hitting it really hard. --

so you are saying that an average man unarmed with this list of ologys and the like wouldnt be able to use just his own sense of judgement?
would i need this list of degrees to work out the average tricks of a magician?
or to learn how to read a map of a new city?

your also saying that these peoples basic intelligence,culture and religion their whole way of life is about hating and destroying?
i think you should bang your head against the brick wall!!
theres many reasons that these people are angry, and many reasons why they could have wanted to carry out this attack.
and to rejoice at the attack.
and to wish it on the western world.
but that dont mean that they definately done this attack. does it??
if they study western culture and history and economics and intteligence they can see plenty of reasons to assume that the west did it themselves too.
assume i said dont just assume.

I think this all comes down to this:

It's a mistake to underestimate your enemy.

Calling these terrorists "goat herders" and implying they're unintelligent or unadvanced is obviously a big mistake. Turns out they are pretty resourceful and smart, and hell-bent on causing destruction to the West. If they were stupid, we'd never hear of them.

Now, acknowledging their intelligence obviously doesn't implicate them of the crimes of 9/11. That's when you have to take into account the confessions and sheaves of evidence which actually does implicate them.

- We already have the evidence, we already know who the hijackers were, we already know how they planned it. But no amount of evidence will be sufficient for those who would believe something that isn't so.
- Insurance scam?

oooh jesus the insurance scam?
ask your friends about it.
$7,000,000,000


so where did you get these names the FBI?
they havent released new names have they? a new list, without those that are shopping in malls in paris and london?


who would believe in something that isnt so? you do so i suppose your logic applies to everyone huh

Ho hum......

These taliban "goat herders" under enough expert aviation training could do more than that with enough funds, and the motive to do so!


one {hijacker} was said to have been on his way to being a "great pilot." Who would have knew!!

you people are in denial and avoiding the truth because of the tremendous alteration your current paradigm would have to endure-- you are only kidding your self when you make the bold assertions that it would be easy much less possible for someone who has never been in a 757 cockpit to simply navigate from the point of the "alledged" hi-jacking of flght 77 to the pentagon-- the flight paths were also suspicously routed in specific relations to known airstrips and bases-- here is a great breakdown that should raise some red flags but then again we are dealing with people who see nothing wrong with a 47 story skyscrapers instantaneously melting into its own footprint and norad being unable to respond to the heart of the nations defen in the pentagon for 45minutes-- people who also see nothing wrong with gulliani getting rid of evidence and pay no attention to a massive insurance scam that allowed the bush administration to force a natural gas pipeline through afgh seize the iraqi wells and then artificially create a false scarcity hoax in order to reap untold billions-- lets not forget that on 9/10/01 rumsfeld had just finished anouncing that there was over a trillion dollars "missing" -- expert eye witness testimony and the video evidence all point to the truth its just a matter of wanting to accept it-- bin laden was cia and 9/11 was an inside job and is still being covered up
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Animation showing military precision of flight paths

Note the MD80 is a McDonald Douglas plane mentioned in the air traffic control transcript for Flight 11.


This becomes particularly interesting when we look at the flght paths for AA Flight 11 and UAL Flights 175 and 93. The yellow triangles in this diagram are equilateral with 100 miles sides. They act as a template to show that many of the key points in the flight paths are 100 miles apart.

Note the locations of the air bases, especially Otis and Dover.

This "Chinese Checkerboard" pattern would be useful for timing rendezvous points for planes that are otherwise unable to communicate.

The 9-11 planes took 13 to 14 minutes to travel each 100 mile section.

Lets look at the bizarre events that occurred:

Meeting point 1: Flight 11 is issued a "merging target procedure" at 8.12. This is a warning to look out for another plane at similar altitude who is on a converging path. Both planes will appear as one spot on the radar. Just after these planes pass, Flight 11 stops responding to radio.

Meeting point 2: Flight 175 takes off at almost exactly the same time as Flight 11 is being hijacked. Due to the strange triangular path that Flight 11 follows, both planes end up very close together near Stewart Airport. The Controller turns Flight 175 to the right so he goes behind Flight 11 and avoids a collision.

Meeting point 3: Flight 93 (no transcript available) appears to have been turned to the right at take-off to avoid flight 175. Both these planes end up close together in the sky and for a brief period Flight 93 is following Flight 175

Meeting point 4: Delta Flight 1989, another LA flight from Boston that took off shortly after Flight 175 passes very close to Flight 93 just after it makes its U-turn over Cleveland airport. Delta 1989 was being watched carefully for signs of a hijack and was (at this time) poiting towards Chicago, home of the Sears Tower.

What makes these meeting points even less likely to be a coincidence is the fact that meeting points one to three are in a straight line with exactly 100 miles between each point.

Here is a very simplified diagram of the flight paths with the lines straightened a bit to emphasise the shape

1. Take-off point Logan airport
2. Flight 11 stops responding
3. Flight 11 starts to turn South
4. Flight 11 and Flight 175 paths cross
5. Flight 175 starts to turn, Flight 93 very close in sky
6. WTC

The gaps between 2, 3, 4 and 5 are all 100 miles

Observe the timings

1. Flight 11 take-off a few seconds before 8:00
2. Flight 175 take-off 8:14 - Flight 11 hijack 8:14
3. Flight 11 turns south 8:27 (Flight Explorer)
4. Flight 11 and Flight 175 meet around 8:40
5. Flight 175 is turning over Allentown at around 8:53

In light of the fact that Flight 175 was supposed to depart from Boston at 8:00 am, perhaps the purpose of Flight 11's huge detour away from its target was to allow Flight 175 to catch up with it. Or perhaps the delays of both Flight 175 and Flight 93 were arranged on purpose to allow these meetings. This would seem less likely, but what if delays were caused by carefully planted passengers causing issues on the ground?

Looking at what happened it was almost as if something was being passed from plane to plane like a virus or parasite:

1. MD80 passes close to Flight 11
2. Flight 11 is hijacked
3. Hijacked Flight 11 passes close to Flight 175
4. Flight 175 is hijacked
5. Hijacked Flight 175 passes close to Flight 93
6. Flight 93 is hijacked (a bit later on)
7. Hijacked Flight 93 passes close to Delta 1989
8. Was Delta 1989 supposed to hit the Seers Tower?

And then there are the simultaneous events:

1. 8:13 Flight 11 hijacked/ Flight 175 takeoff
2. 8:42 Flight 175 hiajcked/ Flight 93 takeoff
3. 8:46 Flight 175 switches transponder code/ Flight 11 crashes

And there's the strange identical pattern taken by Flight 11 and Flight 175 - see the last frame of the animation above

The absurdity of the flight paths in general can be seen by looking at the distance from the various airports to the various targets and comparing them to the flight paths taken:

1. The distance from Dulles airport to the Pentagon 22 miles. But the distance flight 77 took from Dulles to get to the Pentagon was 627 miles. That’s an extra 600 miles to get intercepted, shot down or for suicide hijackers to reconsider their actions.
2. Assuming Flight 93 was also targeting the Pentagon (as speculated by the media). The distance from Newark to the Pentagon is 200 miles. The distance flight 93 would have taken to reach the Pentagon is 750 miles. That’s 550 unnecessary miles.
3. The distance from Logan to the WTC is 193 miles. Flight 11’s route to the WTC was 328 miles (135 extra). Flight 175 took 368 miles (175 extra).
4. The distance from Newark airport to the WTC is 8 miles. You could see the towers from the runway.

Summary and Conclusions

A close analysis of the flight paths and ATC transcripts shows bizarre "meetings" between the 9-11 planes and some other planes.

The distances (almost exactly 100 miles between most major events) and timings (13 -14 minutes between each event) involved show that these meetings were carefully planned and co-ordinated

The fact that these meetings were between hijacked and non-hijacked planes would indicate that they were not planned by any hijackers on board the planes.

The paths and key events in the paths seem to coincide and line up with a network of air bases and airports laid out in triangles on the East Coast. These bases and airports are separated (with the exception of where terrain prevents it) by roughly 100 miles
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Since most of this information is jet enroute based, what happend to the jets? What's the conspiracy behind that?

I wouldn't doubt our gov.t would do such a thing, I wouldn't. Many people don't believe we held Japanese in concentration camps during ww2 in precaution to retaliation, but we did. We got by with M-kultra and others similar mind warping/washing experiments, etc,,.. But, in this case, our gov.t didn't. They were guilty of not taking these threats seriously while Clinton was in office, it rolled over into the Bush's term. This act was an accumilation-- We are guilty for letting it go, not seeing these taliban binladenfreaks a threat.... and we should have!

I'm no expert on 9/11, or explosives, or collapses. But watching videos of the collapses, and professional demolitions there seems to be quite a few glaring inconsistencies.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2...0145858863&

This shows the windows showing "every progressive row" exhibiting the same features of a top down collapse.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=69...2470780153&

This video is of a implosion demoltion of another tower.

A few things I noticed was in the expert demolition there were no "explosions" causing entire rows of windows to emit large quantities of debris, and dust. The collapse started at the bottom, and dust billowed out from the foundation, not from rows of windows like the WTC.

Also, all of the explosives used in demolitions are quite noisy, and flashy in every video I've seen. None of that in the WTC videos. Listen to the videos of demolitions and you hear that it sounds like a string of firecrackers going off, not simple a "explosion".

And since you used a picture from their website, it would only be fair to post this as well.

http://www.implosionworld.com/wtc.htm

I should also add, there was some points made about the steel, and how it's not hot enough to have been melted. While the melting point is around 2500 degrees, the "critical temperature" is only around 1000 degrees. That means at 1000 degrees is when it becomes unnable to be a load bearing structure. Jet fuel can reach up to 1800 degrees in temperature, so while this is unable to liquify the metal it is more then enough to raise it above it's critical temperature.

I will remain out of the hijackers, and blame trail as that's too far out of my area.

LOL! My area isn't steel, fire, bombs, aviation, etc, it's criminals actually. This area here belongs to everyone, or so it seems.

- I don't hear the Insurance company crying foul play? If there is one who would really look into any foul play it is them! Not Alex jones
- Yeah, where else? The Yellow pages?
- Really, what about the shoppers? They paid for the merchandise, so what was wrong with the shoppers?
- YOU! You are believing on something that is make believe. You bought into MANUFACTURED evidence.

Apparently, the mere fact that there existed an insurance policy for the WTC is enough for CTists to cry foul.

And isn't it utterly amazing that they can see the obvious insurance fraud, and yet the insurance companies, who pay millions per year to seek out fraud, see nothing wrong with it?

Squibs or not, have a look here Sun.

http://www.debunking911.com/overp.htm

Homey, step back, take a breath, and see that my post was in support of you.

Gee, I'm sorry. I guess these theory conspiracies are driving me nuts,

LOL!!

http://news.netscape.com/story/2006/09/22/...debunks-itself/

Sleepy, this site is a joke!
Apparently to debunk a site you need these: not "revealing" site's authors identity {as if uncovering truth really cares} "typos," and a word "man" from fireman-- emphasized it should have been in "plural form" - firemEn.

I have a missage or the maker of that site. DONT DO DRUG!

LOL! Don't feel bad. I'm driving nuts with you. Atleast we can laugh on the way.

The trouble with all this numerology is that it assumes the hi-jacks occured at take-off. If the hi-jackers took a little time after take-off to get organised and do the hi-jack, they could easily be starting to fly to their targets from a few hundred miles away from the take-off point.

Time to be intercepted or shot down? No-one was in the habit of doing this before the 9/11 attack, what was the risk?

http://www.rense.com/general57/aale.htm

Wow. A transcript from an Alex Jones show, hosted by Rense.com.

I guess that settles it, then.

Let me know when this breaking news gets picked up by CNN.

So can anyone (that's right in the head anyway) say that this honestly makes a whole lotta sense?
-- A man
-- A man is money hungry for few million dollars (like who in hell isn't?)
-- the gov.t is best pals with greedy man-- gov.t does greedy man favor
-- Gov.t plans this man's real estate to be blown out for insurance money to give to their friend.
-- Gov.t has to tie few strings first for the conspiracy to work though-->
- Hire Bin laden CIA, and he hires suicidal homophobes do President's dirty work for dirty money hungry friend-
-All on sneaky plan -> President & office, military, media, FD, L.E, (Local, state, national level- FBI,) Ntl Airlines, CIA, City of NY--and so called victim's families who knew---- these conspiraters need to be solemn and truthful to stand by the murder of thousands of innocent people for President's good ole pal and few million dollars....
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I may be slightly off with the specifics but I know i'm close enough...This is totally irrational.

They want World Government as well as several other things. I think in order to achieve this, They need to bankrupt all "powerful" USA.

Check this out:

For the New World Order to create a one world government, they must control a central bank, eliminate the Constitution, end Christian values, disarm America, and control the media. The Council on Foreign Relations has openly said they will take us over in favor of a one world government. The American people must be warned or we may lose our freedom forever. If we do not demand our rights and uphold the Constitution, the CFR and bankers will continue their march toward socialism. If we allow them to continue, they will abolish our rights and put an end to our present government. Freedom isn't free

Taken for www.jesus-is-savior.com

They also want to accomplish the following, and most of it has already been accomplished:

1. Patriot act
2. Patriot act 2
3. Eliminate the Consitution
4. Bring forth the NWO
5. Bankrupt the USA to bring forth a NWO
6. Scare americans to give up there right in exchange for "security" when you will just get tyranny and a police state.
7. Justify an Iraq & Afganistan War.. With Iraq, Iran, and Afganistan in control ..US Should control all of the Middle East with just those 3 countries.....oh my i hope i dont disppear...
8. Bring forth a Real ID Act, which was passed on 5-11-05, and then the "mark of the beast"
9. To Pretty Much Allow Bush to do anything He wants.


That is why in the PNAC Documents, Cheney said..We need a new Pearl Harbor.

Also, Some of you said they cant even handle a hurricane how can they do 9.11?

The answer is..The had help from criminal ellimates from the U.S. Military....I think...I cant say i am 100% possitive b/c i am not in the military or the government.

But this makes more sense then the offical story..Which 90% believes it to be covere up..

36% Believe it to be an inside job.

You forgot 2 points:

1. To bring the executive branch above the legislative and judicial (no longer retain 3 equal branches of governement)
2. american union between mexico and canada so as to institute pan america and a super highway running from mexico to canada.