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crystal sage
Sounds very much like how Mary spoke with Arch Angels re the coming birth of Christ....

Moses followed instructions...

Many of the mythical conversations with or from God mentioned in the bible ....

http://www.therealpresence.org/archives/An...elology_007.htm
http://www.gatago.com/sci/skeptic/26272880.html

http://www.serfes.org/orthodox/angels.htm

"One of the rarest types of UFO encounter is an onboard experience or a face-to-face encounter with an actual extraterrestrial. In my twenty years of UFO investigations, I have uncovered only a handful of these types of very close encounters. Surprisingly, in the vast majority of these encounters, there is little or no conversation between the humans and the aliens.


In the cases where there is conversation, it is often one-sided and limited to the extraterrestrials giving platitudes to the frightened witnesses. It’s the same phrase over and over again. I’ve heard it a thousand times. It’s almost like a broken record. The first word out of the aliens’ mouths (or minds) is invariably, "DO NOT BE AFRAID. WE WON’T HURT YOU."


While the aliens are usually very tight-lipped, occasionally they will engage people in brief conversations or relay brief messages"

http://www.llewellynjournal.com/article.php?id=474
boggle
QUOTE(crystal sage @ Oct 13 2006, 09:53 PM) [snapback]1389036[/snapback]

Sounds very much like how Mary spoke with Arch Angels re the coming birth of Christ....

Moses followed instructions...

Many of the mythical conversations with or from God mentioned in the bible ....

http://www.therealpresence.org/archives/An...elology_007.htm
http://www.gatago.com/sci/skeptic/26272880.html

http://www.serfes.org/orthodox/angels.htm

"One of the rarest types of UFO encounter is an onboard experience or a face-to-face encounter with an actual extraterrestrial. In my twenty years of UFO investigations, I have uncovered only a handful of these types of very close encounters. Surprisingly, in the vast majority of these encounters, there is little or no conversation between the humans and the aliens.
In the cases where there is conversation, it is often one-sided and limited to the extraterrestrials giving platitudes to the frightened witnesses. It’s the same phrase over and over again. I’ve heard it a thousand times. It’s almost like a broken record. The first word out of the aliens’ mouths (or minds) is invariably, "DO NOT BE AFRAID. WE WON’T HURT YOU."
While the aliens are usually very tight-lipped, occasionally they will engage people in brief conversations or relay brief messages"

http://www.llewellynjournal.com/article.php?id=474


Two words comes to mind:

overactive mind

here's one way of relaxing that symptom:

The hypothalamic relaxation technique
crystal sage
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rapid7

QUOTE(crystal sage @ Oct 13 2006, 09:53 PM) [snapback]1389036[/snapback]


Interesting and in many respects- surprisingly accurate- nice find.
Kazahel
QUOTE(crystal sage @ Oct 14 2006, 05:53 AM) [snapback]1389036[/snapback]

"One of the rarest types of UFO encounter is an onboard experience or a face-to-face encounter with an actual extraterrestrial. In my twenty years of UFO investigations, I have uncovered only a handful of these types of very close encounters. Surprisingly, in the vast majority of these encounters, there is little or no conversation between the humans and the aliens.
In the cases where there is conversation, it is often one-sided and limited to the extraterrestrials giving platitudes to the frightened witnesses. It’s the same phrase over and over again. I’ve heard it a thousand times. It’s almost like a broken record. The first word out of the aliens’ mouths (or minds) is invariably, "DO NOT BE AFRAID. WE WON’T HURT YOU."
While the aliens are usually very tight-lipped, occasionally they will engage people in brief conversations or relay brief messages"

http://www.llewellynjournal.com/article.php?id=474
Yeah I found it all kinda interesting.. I'm surprised that more people havent had experiences where they have talked(telepathically)with aliens though. I didnt know that was considered rare.. or not that rare you know. It's just in my main dream of 'aliens'.. that was with Lam(Iam)and we talked for ages.. it was like a guided tour hey.

I found this part pretty trippy.
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Diane was told to pick a baby and hold it. She refused because the babies appeared to be deformed. Says Diane, "Every one of them had something wrong with them. And she said it was sad, because it wasn’t planned that way, that they had all these things wrong with them....She said they had everything but love. She said, ‘That’s why I’d like you to take one and love it....They have problems. They are different. But they still need love."

Diane was unable to overcome her revulsion and refused to hold the babies. Following this experience, all the UFO encounters of the Robinson family ended.
Because the main conversation I had was over my life, and that I was to have a son after the hardships and to just look after him. I remember being very happy and I told him that I thought I would make a great dad and that I would love to have a son. I told him I had always wanted to be a dad, and he said he knew. Anyway thats why when I found out I was going to be a dad in real life I had named my child Adam before I even found out the sex of my child, and I managed to kick a 2yr heroin habit fully(methodone included) before he was born because it was just meant to be. I remembered my dream which had all come true and so it gave me the faith and strength to fill the role that I had already been picked for.

So yeah anyway, reading that part kinda fits in with what I consider my 'alien' style dream because the good news part was the child at the end of it all. Like that was the most important part... like the point of it all for me personally.. once that stage was reached I had finished the deal kinda. Almost.

I also liked this bit that was in the other link..
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But the most striking reward Christ ever promised to the elect and righteous ones, who lived according to and suffered for His Gospel on earth, was that they shall be equal to the angels..
I liked all of that part because that also kinda fits into things I've dreamt. Which I dreamt around the time of my sons birth.. which was... timely but I dont want to get into that really. grin2.gif Anyway dreams are strange things hey and the only 'alien' conversation I've had has been in one major dream, so I dont know if that counts to others because I wasnt awake in.. real life.

But I've met another person who told a very similar story to mine, which is why I thought it wasnt that rare. And her child is the same age as mine and she's called Eve. Which spun me out too. happy.gif
crystal sage
QUOTE(Kazahel @ Oct 16 2006, 07:37 PM) [snapback]1391697[/snapback]

Yeah I found it all kinda interesting.. I'm surprised that more people havent had experiences where they have talked(telepathically)with aliens though. I didnt know that was considered rare.. or not that rare you know. It's just in my main dream of 'aliens'.. that was with Lam(Iam)and we talked for ages.. it was like a guided tour hey.

I found this part pretty trippy. Because the main conversation I had was over my life, and that I was to have a son after the hardships and to just look after him. I remember being very happy and I told him that I thought I would make a great dad and that I would love to have a son. I told him I had always wanted to be a dad, and he said he knew. Anyway thats why when I found out I was going to be a dad in real life I had named my child Adam before I even found out the sex of my child, and I managed to kick a 2yr heroin habit fully(methodone included) before he was born because it was just meant to be. I remembered my dream which had all come true and so it gave me the faith and strength to fill the role that I had already been picked for.

So yeah anyway, reading that part kinda fits in with what I consider my 'alien' style dream because the good news part was the child at the end of it all. Like that was the most important part... like the point of it all for me personally.. once that stage was reached I had finished the deal kinda. Almost.

I also liked this bit that was in the other link.. I liked all of that part because that also kinda fits into things I've dreamt. Which I dreamt around the time of my sons birth.. which was... timely but I dont want to get into that really. grin2.gif Anyway dreams are strange things hey and the only 'alien' conversation I've had has been in one major dream, so I dont know if that counts to others because I wasnt awake in.. real life.

But I've met another person who told a very similar story to mine, which is why I thought it wasnt that rare. And her child is the same age as mine and she's called Eve. Which spun me out too. happy.gif



thumbsup.gif ...Wow!!...that's brilliant...

I do recall having a few strange 'dreams ' where I was in a white room...that looked like a hospital??? well operations were being done there... once when I was due to give birth to my first child...and I was rather frightened about whether I could cope or not... they showed me this six month old child..with a Napolean curl on the forehead... and the child told me not to worry that she'll help me where she could and would be easy to manage...

3months later she was born... had the very same curl.looked the same..and wasn't a bit of trouble ever...slept thru the night from about 6 weeks.. was very mature for her age.... :..I didn't name her anything biblical though...


Also had other dreams of being operated for some illnesses... and kind of felt it when I woke up... unsure.gif .. very spooky....!!!... Or them telling me to watch out for something...or being concerned about something that's going to happen...having a meeting over it ...then telling me not to worry ..they'll handle it... and then finding that 'sychronicity' helped me thru some difficult...sticky... or potentially dangerous times.....

Very weird!!!! cool.gif ..Guardian Angels ??? or ET's???

or just prophetic dreams????
hazzard
Dreams, Angels and Extraterrestrial life.......?

..... We just dont know.
scipherel
I wonder why the Aliens always leave a scars when they can do it perfectly without leaving any traces. They can totally erased our minds too. Bloody Aliens, too hard to get their messages.
hazzard
The vast majority of humans are fantasy prone, otherwise they would not believe in God, angels, spirits, immortality, devils, ESP, Aliens on Earth, Bigfoot, etc. A person can function "normally" in a million and one ways and hold the most irrational beliefs imaginable.

Those who believe that they have been abducted by aliens may be neither crazy nor telling the truth. It might be better to think of them as sharing a cultural delusion.The only evidence for their experience is their belief that it happened and the account they give of it. There is no other evidence. There is no evidence that there is even microbial life anywere else in the universe. And untill it is, I see no point in taking this Aliens on Earth fantasy serious.

Unlimited
QUOTE(hazzard @ Oct 21 2006, 01:31 PM) [snapback]1398948[/snapback]

The vast majority of humans are fantasy prone, otherwise they would not believe in God, angels, spirits, immortality, devils, ESP, Aliens on Earth, Bigfoot, etc. A person can function "normally" in a million and one ways and hold the most irrational beliefs imaginable.

Those who believe that they have been abducted by aliens may be neither crazy nor telling the truth. It might be better to think of them as sharing a cultural delusion.The only evidence for their experience is their belief that it happened and the account they give of it. There is no other evidence. There is no evidence that there is even microbial life anywere else in the universe. And untill it is, I see no point in taking this Aliens on Earth fantasy serious.


just because the truth is being covered up ;and your being told so little. you conjure up your 10 cent psychology theory?...trust me the top world governments know of intestellar life..because they choose to tell you nothing thats your problem. ph34r.gif
hazzard
QUOTE(limited @ Oct 21 2006, 01:54 PM) [snapback]1398965[/snapback]

just because the truth is being covered up


That is your answer for everything. While endlessly appealing, this is an argument from ignorance, to saying we cant show you good evidence because we havent got it, and this implies that every government in the world has efficiently slammed the TOP SECERET stamp on the box and hid all the evidence and alien artifacts for the last 50 years or so.

Two things mystify me about these recurrent paranoid claims that NASA/THE EVIL GOVERNMENT/CIA..or whatever agency is covering up evidence of extraterrestrial intelligence.

First, we would love nothing more than to find such evidence and there is absolutely no reason at all for anyone to cover it up. NASAs budget would skyrocket with such a discovery.

Second, anyone who thinks the government is capable of covering up something as monumental as this must not pay much attention to national political news.

Despite the considerable efforts of the few that believe they have seen or otherwise witnessed an alien spaceship. Not one has been able to show proof that what they saw was of alien origin. Of course there is always going to be some things unexplainable. That is only because we do not see well what it is.

I have seen several things myself that I am pretty sure that people with less knowledge of the sky would have considered an alien spacecraft or a UFO, One was the ISS, one a satelite, one was a distant helicopter with a search light and the other was Venus, apparently moving due to fast moving clouds,etc.

I think that all the known UFO cases so far have been cases of misidentification or hoaxes (some perpretrated by the observers and some on the observers.) As of yet I havent seen any evidence that would totally convince me of an Alien presence in any shape or form anywere.Everything that is presented concerning this topic always comes down to "You either believe or you dont.". What we need are facts, not opinions. It doesnt matter if the entire world believes in aliens; if they are not real.


Might I remind everyone that there was a time when everyone believed in witches enough to execute thousands and thousands of people all over the world. Just because everyone believed in witches didnt make them a reality.

Today, 2006, there are a billion people that believe that a son of a carpenter, 2000 years ago, could walk on liquid water.
Banater
QUOTE(hazzard @ Oct 21 2006, 08:31 AM) [snapback]1398948[/snapback]

There is no evidence that there is even microbial life anywere else in the universe. And untill it is, I see no point in taking this Aliens on Earth fantasy serious.

So you are saying if NASA announced that microbes were found on Mars tommorow you would consider the possibility that aliens are visiting this planet? Personally I don't need the government or the science community to tell me if aliens are visiting us. First, I don't think the government would tell us if they did know. There would be many more reasons for them to hide it than to reveal the truth. Second, the scientific community would never announce anything of importance unless they had a UFO or alien in their hands. That is if the government would let them have such evidence.

Many of us on this forum have seen objects on the ground and in the sky that defy known physics and current technology. Yes, many people have misinterpreted terrestial objects for UFO's and believe blindly they are from another world. But you have to consider the eyewitness reports that cannot be easily explained. I have seen enough things with my own eyes to convince me that there is technology out there way ahead of us. I can't say if these craft are piloted by aliens or humans. But I would be a fool to close my mind and eyes to such occurances just because the government says they don't exist. No, I can't prove to you what I saw was extraordinary. But I don't have to because this is a discussion forum, not a courtroom. Until this phenomena is explained I think we should take this subject very serious.
crystal sage
QUOTE(hazzard @ Oct 23 2006, 06:25 AM) [snapback]1400193[/snapback]

That is your answer for everything. While endlessly appealing, this is an argument from ignorance, to saying we cant show you good evidence because we havent got it, and this implies that every government in the world has efficiently slammed the TOP SECERET stamp on the box and hid all the evidence and alien artifacts for the last 50 years or so.

Two things mystify me about these recurrent paranoid claims that NASA/THE EVIL GOVERNMENT/CIA..or whatever agency is covering up evidence of extraterrestrial intelligence.

First, we would love nothing more than to find such evidence and there is absolutely no reason at all for anyone to cover it up. NASAs budget would skyrocket with such a discovery.

Second, anyone who thinks the government is capable of covering up something as monumental as this must not pay much attention to national political news.

Despite the considerable efforts of the few that believe they have seen or otherwise witnessed an alien spaceship. Not one has been able to show proof that what they saw was of alien origin. Of course there is always going to be some things unexplainable. That is only because we do not see well what it is.







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