People have been talking about the new world order for a long time now, but it still hasn't happened. People keep saying a new world government will take power and the US will go into a military state, but again, it hasn't happened.
What are everyones predicitions on when/if they think the NWO will begin to completely control all aspects of american life?

Is it really a new world order, or will it only effect the major world powers, specifically the USA. Where does South and Central America stand on this? Are they involved? What about places like Australia? Will there be safe havens from this new world order?

Im only asking for everyones opinions and predictions on these questions, not exactly a debate on whos wrong and whos right.

I think it will eventually happen,when I'm not sure. I think we've already started down that road with the security measures that have been brought about. I think they were needed in our current situation,however.

Still hasn't happened...? or has already been happening...

Israel IS the NWO and while you're waiting for your post card to come in the mail to tell you this while remaining completely oblivious as you are, you might want to actually want to do more than just standing around waiting. The only thing is that it hasn't reached it's fully fledged state yet but believe me, no NWO has to be announced for it to be seen as the foreshadowing has already come and gone but since the world is most likely going to end 2012, I'd say you'll see the NWO and the rise of the antichrist pretty soon, probably sometime in 2007.

Why on Earth would the world end in 2012?

Why would the antichrist come in 2007?

how do you know that?...

That's amazing that you think Israel is the New World Order, consider they really have no economic, or military power. And there only real ally is the United States. I dont believe in "New World Orders", but if I was looking for one I would look towards China, or South East Asia. Just a thought.



That's the end of the Mayan calendar, or rather the stop. Some people think the world is going to end that day. I think its bogus.

Im quite aware of that.

then why did you ask? lol

The new world order is in full swing as we speak. It is coming from America, the land of the free. America is basicly in martial law at the moment, they are using the fear of terrorism to make their own people slaves and submit to the control that their government enforces on them. The government are slowly taking away each and every civil right away from americans in the name of security. The 5th amendment states that a person or persons home or possesions can only be searched with probable cause and on oath that they have probably cause. The tyrant bush has declared that amid this state of panic the 5th amendment does not apply, anybody can be searched any time, anyplace without probable cause or reason. He also goes on record as saying he is above the law.

I believe that he used 9/11 as a way to invade iraq and build permenant military bases and therefore strengthen America as the worlds top superpower. America now has the power to launch attacks worldwide. If bin laden was responsible why invade iraq? Why step in and tell your own agents NOT to apprehend Bin laden? Anyways im kinda going off the point but, i believe that he either orchestrated 9/11 or used it to his advantage to invade an innocent country. Saddam Hussein was brutal but HE DIDNT ATTACK AMERICA.

If you get punced by somebody you dont attack somebody who didnt hit you do you? You aim for the culprit. He invaded iraq for financial and military gain. To understand the NWO you need to understand Masonry, Skull and Bones and the Illuminati.

They are basically the same organisation, a secret society that started in the 14th century. Illuminati means the enlightened ones. They started this secret society to eventually rule the world. It started with some well to do german aristocrats and eventually spread all over the world. It the UK we have Masons, in the US they have the skull and bones.

Both Bush and Kerry are members of skull and bones so either way you vote you lose. They may have different political views but their allegiencies are the same and so are their eventual goals. The last Few presidents have all been members of Skull and Bones. America are, as we spaek, building concerntration camps or gulags all over the country to be used for its own people in the event of a next terrorist attack. They use xray cameras to look into your homes with spy blimps and can stop and search you at any time they feel like it with no reason, they have your fingerprints your retina scan, they know what you eat, what you wear and all sorts of other things about you that you wouldnt like to know, ALL IN THE NAME OF SECURITY!!! America has given up its liberty in the name of security. All the fake reports and terrorism alerts are put there on purpose to scare the public into submitting to their tyranical ways and supporting their war. They want you to become tools for them to use, they want you in their armies they want you to fight in george Bushes name on foreign lands to eventually conquer the planet just in the way Hitler did.

Hitler firebombed his own party headquaters to drum up anger and hatred against another party in germany. He also used the media to trick germans into thinking poland was invading. The picture used was of a man in polish uniform (who was a german prisoner) dead inside germanys borders. Hitler said that the polish were invading so germany went mad and invaded. Bush is working in much the same way, attacks on home turf and invade an innocent country. The new world order has started in america and is going to continue to grow. Americans are being used and they dont even realise. There is something else more sinister lurking within Bush and his regime. Its easy for him. Scare the crap out of people and in return theyl fight the supposed enemy for all theyre worth and sacrifice everything to keep safe, even if it means giving your own life. This is exactly what is going on in america today. You are being used to aid the NWO. Dont fight for another mans cause, this isnt your war its Bush's war. Its one huge game of greed and power and even if hes out next elections somebody else will carry on his fight.

I would keep a close eye on the north korea conflict, I can see a false reason being used to invade with the help of south Korea and eventually conquer and rule that country. I think that soon we will see another false flag operation. An american frigate or something parked near that country will mysteriously come under attack and therefore declaring a state of war and ending up with a full takeover like weve seen in iraq. The pattern is emerging so keep an eye out. I dont want to be saying told you so in 6 months time but i think it will happen.

Because I want to know what makes it probable that the world will end in 2012.

I heard the world will be reborn december 25th 2006. so why would it end 6 years later?

how can the us conquer the world when canada will still be there? i no for a fact that canadians will not just give up there land to the us or any type of government.
yes we are lazy most of the time but when are homes are threatened we will fight untill we die.

You people don't get it. Antichrist is alive today.. Trust me He will appear as the U.N secretary General or U.S. President. (The New Roman Empire) He will come from the seventh empire and create the 8th.

America has become a dictatorship, martial law is almost upon them and police brutality and the climate of fear created by the media are all signs that the NWO is in progress. Bush has become a dictator himself, taking away your freedom and brutalising those who oppose the new restrictions. You are treated like the enemy for peaceful demonstrations and locked in condemned buildings like pier 57, all for excercising your rights to freedom of speech, just like Saddam did. "he who seeks monsters should take care that he doesnt become a monster himself"

Cant you see thats exactly what America has become? They have become like the evil they are supposedly fighting. Bush invaded iraq because Saddam was a dictator and a tyrant and controlled the people with fear. Exactly what bush is doing, its amazingly ironic isnt it? In defeating Iraq you have become it.

Fish, I must say you are displaying the symptoms of complete lunacy. Are you for real? Do you have any education at all? You are babbling like a rabid baby, drooling and foaming at the mouth hole. Where do you live? Certainly it can't be the U.S. Are you in North Korea? Syria perhaps?

Have you ever experienced marshal law? I have. In third world countries and in communist countries. In totalitarian conditions, you can't even breath wrong or you will "disappear". If you are in America then you are the biggest fool there is. Look around you, fool. You can go anywhere, anytime, buy, sell, say, write, spew whatever foolishness you want. If you lived in North Korea or Red China and you wrote the things about those governments and leaders that you are writing about mine, how long do you think you would survive?

You can't even do a Google search with freedom in those places.

I'll tell you, I do believe there is sometimes too much freedom of speach, only because fools like you might influence some poor unsuspecting child into being an idiot.

And my President's name is President Bush or Mr. Bush you disrespectful trash. You have offended many here today with your drivel.

Good day. And GOD, THE ONE AND ONLY, BLESS AMERICA!

reader into prophecies are u....is that were you attain all your info...!...thought you was suspicious..

end of the world...2012?..there maybe stife but this is really the turn into the Golden age...soooo...if any new world order wants to appen then this would be an ideal time to do it....after all the famin and world strife..

Open your eyes fool and look at the way your precious country is headed. READ FACTS about bush and kerrys involvement in skull and bones, READ FACTS about pier 57 and the detention of innocent Americans, you are on constant terror alert, you are being urged to accept the dictatorship of bush (no i didnt get it wrong he doesnt even deserve a capital letter at the start of his name!) he is systematically taking away your rights of free speech and protest, he has banned protests all over america and tells you to protest in a designated protest zone miles away from anywhere you can be heard. He and his family are linked to nazi germany in the 2nd world war, he has increased military prescence in every city in america, you are forbidden from video taping in some public areas, you are being urged to accept a national identity card that contains a chip which can locate you, they have your fingerprints even though you didnt commit a crime, they tell you that one more attack will lead to complete military control, they constantly harass young black men from poor backgrounds to join the military and promise them the world and give them nothing, they build concerntration camps to house your innocent countrymen in the event of another attack, they changed the law on torture so that they can now kill and rape in order to gain information, they tell you that the 5th amendment no longer applies etc etc.

Wake up and smell the coffee pal, yeah you can go around and buy what you like, say what you like but you cant do what you like. Little by little dumb old bushy is taking it all away. Big brother is watching YOU america and its only gonna get worse for you. Just google a few things like gulags and verichips and READ about them. There is little threat of terrorism now in america yet your still on high alert, still being scared, still giving up your privacy to propaganda, still not quite awake, still not looking at the bigger picture, still believing his lies.

Why do you get so angry? Im just putting my point across as i am entitled to do on this public forum. If you dont like it dont come on here. I am giving an alternate view of a subject a lot of people feel strongly about and you wouldnt get shown on tv or in the media. Hopefully i might be able to convince a few people to open their eyes and take a look at the bigger picture, especially as mid term elections are upon you in america. The only way you can change it is by starting in the towns and voting for GOOD, HONEST PEOPLE, not these power hungry brainwashing morons whos only politaical goal is to destroy other nations and take them over.

America the land of the free! PAH!

God bless America! lets hope she wakes up.

My eyes are very open. Open enough to see that all that you have written here are lies and half-truths with terrible exaggeration at best. Yes, as I stated in my earlier post, you are very free, unfortunately, to spew your lies and foolishness on this public forum. But you are a disrespectful child without credibility. I wouldn't go around spewing insults and lies about Sen. John Kerry just because I don't agree with him or particularly like him as a person. However, he is an elected official in my nation and a leader who's position warrants respect regardless of his fallacies.

You come here puffed up, high and mighty like you know everything and anyone who sees things differently as either ignorant or "on their side" how arrogant and presumptious. You are the type of vile filth that our founding fathers gave their lives to get us away from. Now you and your ilk are breeding like cockroaches, spewing lunacy to sound half intelligent while doing nothing to help the situation here but sowing discord among people who would otherwise get along in intelligent conversation.

I'm glad and proud that we have the type of freedom here that does not allow you to be hanged for high treason as an enemy of the state like you would be in Cuba if did the same there. You are gutless and self deceived, you have no idea what you are talking about but you try to make up for your cowardess by sounding like you know something.

Go vote, go learn, go teach a child in the good things in life, in how he could make it with hard work and good ethics. I have no interest in further engaging you as a fool according to your folly. You just keep spewing, son, people will see you for what you really are.

I think ive struck a chord! Dont bust a blood vessel pal, and dont get patronising with me. Fill your posts with daft phrases and fancy words all you want, it doesnt make you look intelligent. You, like your government are practicing the same double standards. You call me insulting, i am mereley displaying my feelings towards your president, yet you get disrespectful to me. You are the fool my yankee freind, you believe everything that is put in front of you (probably gossip magazines like national enquirer) and dont look at REAL news. Whilst you are watching "news headlines" on britney spears your fellow countrymen are dying in iraq, famine is killing thousands, bush goes to bohemian grove thats the real news. You are fed rubbish and your brains soak it all up, masking the real truths in the world. The media dictates what you know and the rest may as well not exist. Go look at CNN or BBC news archives about Bin Laden, military security, personal ID implants. Look at what is REALLY happening in your country.You are the kind of brainwashed idiot that will eventually lead to your country's demise. You follow bush loyally like a lapdog, doting on his every word and spewing BS like one of his propaganda machines. You are probably a polotician!!Im not from America and i can say what the hell i like on these forums as freedom of speech DOES exist elsewhere in the world. You are a facist bigot who believes only in his own fabricated, safe little world and doesnt care about other opinions. As long as your happy and tell yourself youre fine and everybody tells the truth and nobody has secrets then thats ok. You are the type of person who would never be first to raise his head over the parapit. Ignorance is bliss as you clearly prove.Youre the kind of guy who would gladly send a man to the gallows after hearing only one side of the arguament. Why not try to investigate FACTS about your government and take off those ridiculous rose tinted specs that you are wearing and take a good look around. I urge you, PLEASE google some of the things i mentioned to see what is in store for your unaware public. If you cant accept other peoples differing opinions then its time to stop looking on forums it will only make you ill!!

Oh yes! I am amazed at your vast and pinpoint accurate knowledge of exactly what I see, hear and read. Yes, you've concinced me now.

I can feel the love.

**John Q Conundrum and captain pish, the both of you are reminded of the forum rules regarding civil conduct, and forbidding flaming and insults. If you cannot discuss things like intelligent and reasoned people, then do not post. Take a walk and cool off before you start typing again.**

The NWO may start in the USA then UK, backed by the CIA, FBI and the BSS maybe even the KGB without consent from the OSS to help bring about the UN/NATO army backed by the RAAC to well and truly dominate thru marshall law with UNICEF totally powerless to help the people, which more than likely bring about WW3 bringing the WHO to it's knees as people start to rebel against GATT, NAFTA and EAG with the support APEC but not before UNESCO try to keep the people suppressed and phone tapped with the help ITT from what is really going on with the UBC with all it's suspect financial practices all done right under the nose of the OECD as the EU also join in to stabilize OPEC with the total blessing from the WTO, in raising it's oil prices for megga profits which is funding secret projects regarding NASA, UFOs and ET's to help ignite their MK ULTRA programs with the drug supplys coming from the DEA to help mind numb the population around the globe with the help of Iluminati controlled BBC, NBC, CNN and ABC after which the people have no choice but to accept the NWO or perish.

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Well what i actualy think is a bit diffrent from what you all stated but i agree with most of you, but in my opinion its more complicated. Everything im going to say is based on hours and hours and hours of reading books, stories, theories and even secret documents, and finaly my story of what i made up of all the readings. Well one more thing, i don't have prove or evidence on anything, this is just the picture in my head out of all those stories and facts i read about.

First of all i want to say in my opinion bush doesnt rule america at all, neither did every other president. It are the secret societies with on top the Illuminati. I have no idea when they settled the Illuminati but it must have been around the 14th century or even far befour. The Illuminati or how you would like to call it has always been trying to create a new world order ever since they existed. Presidents in america are far lower than the Illimunati, they made up democracy by giving us the fake picture that we decide who is going to rule the country. No mather who will be a president of America will be ordered to do what the Iluminati say's he must, he might even been given a couple solutions he has to chose from wich he'd like to apply given by them. America was secretly build up by the Illuminati to get the final step on the stairs. Look at the slave trade from africa wich was a big step forward to world domination. Now the Illuminati rules a whole bunch of things actualy created and shaped by them and the secret societies around them. The biggest things are as far as i can remember:
-All international banks
-All big press companys and journalists
-NASA
-Disney
-Holywood
-Education
-Music industry

What exactly is money? I have no true deffinition found yet. What you get told by the news just think about it. Are we might as well beeing hold back by NASA? What have they got to hide? Disney is a brainwasher for sure, if you don't know, i dont know. What exactly do we learn at school, ever thought about that? In my opinion what we get learned we actualy dont get learned we get told by and we just got to accept it and believe its true. Why do we go to school? To get a job and donate money to the gouverment to get stuck in the system as every normal citizen already is. Is the human race created to get told and just work all our lives to end up with nothing but an retirement fund and brains overloaded with useless information told to us by the gouverment? Oh sh**, doesnt nearly every famous muscian use drugs? Damn who actualy brought america all those diffrent kind of drugs, yea the DEA and other organizations are created for this mission.

The World Wars were failed attempts to world domination as well. Hitler actualy came from one of the fresh bloodlines connected to the Illuminati. Might also been that the 2 World Wars where to destroy some population acording to the overheating earth. Becous they dint want the Earth to get overheated incase there could not be an New world order then. If they wanted to stop all the killing, gangs, mafia, terrorism and other forms of heavy crime it would have been stopped all along. But they got the mainstream news, movies and journal in theire pocket dont they. We get all kinds of violent information everyday we dont know beter than that. Wich actualy creates hate between eachother to make us commit more crimes and more crimes. The actual rates of crime seem to drop as well wich i dont believe at all, we are beeing told. (Man,.. i can go on with these theorys for ever actualy. But its to hard to type it all out in english for me since i aint from an english country. This post is actualy already takeing over an our to type out.) Well a little bit more we got this Europion Union right now starting to look like at the end we are going to be 1 state. Wich will expand over time to include Africa at the maximum of the year 2012. And since Europe already rules America it actualy already is one. And yea America does secret meetings with Russia under the polar ice caps, but why there? Does this lead to have a connection to the innerearth wich we obvisiously dont know about becous they got the mainstream journal in their pocket? Hitler, or may i say the Illuminati wanted to end the WWII with an Aryan race. All the inner earth myths point out that the inner earth is populated by a form of humanity wich only exists in blond hair and blue eye's. Now is that strange or what?! Im not sure but this might also is connected to the african slaves, the terrorism against the islam wich is actualy made up by the gouverment it self, and the ghetto's actualy 90% populated by blacks. Obvisiously they dont care about them killing each other, actualy America trys to get all blacks in theire army becous they just dont care about those races. Isnt all this what i stated looking like sadistic some how. Why are all presidents actualy doing the devil horn sign with theire hands? Yep the Illuminati believes in satan wich they believe is our creator.

I think i messed the whole story up acording to the timelines and im not willing to go on with my story becous i will mess it up even more. I hope i puted the main picture down for you all, i know a lot more about this all but it just to hard for me to write it all out in english with common sence. NOW everything i said i dont state to be totaly true i actualy dont know what to believe and what not my self anymore, we all will see when time tells.

I hope this brought up something to discuss more about, Take it eazy all, Jack

The Illuminati globel''Pyramid of Power'' and who really conTROLLS and runs the show.
And were do we stand in all this?....well, we don't.



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Make of it what you(free)will.

We dont get it? the 33rd degree mason and leader of the knights templar is the anti-christ.....William jefferson Clinton!

2012 may be the new age. some say 2007 is the New Age...

A NWO is certainly on the rise...Our Freemason's In the White House are up to sumthin...October 17th 2006 the Military Comission Act was passed and should really be looked at and thought about..They Know something is going to happen soon and need laws like this one to apply on American Citizens....( of course this this was desighned for terrorist **cough* )

The Holy Bible is really amazing and seems to be describing these days to the "T".

With America becoming more and more alienated from the rest of the world, something is bound to happen to allow a NWO type of movement Im sure..If its not a 3rd World War, An american Civil War, or a Holy Rapture followed up with our UFO NEPHILIM buddys making a televised greeting in Israel, It could be any thing..

im honestly expecting something Biblical to happen within the next 3 years..As we Ironicly enter the Age of Aquarious...Again the bible nails the time line perfectly. With all this Freemason / Bohimium Grove / UFO technology exchange/ Holy Blood Line Solomans Temple stuff going around....Its hard not to see a NWO spreading its wings over America...

Europe is already Half way there....as well they should be, This too is in the Bible..

Preach Bredrin!

A Psalm a day keep the doctor away.

Ditto!

I think you need to get "learned" some more

I think theres gonna be a New World Order of love...get out your grateful dead records; it's a revolution.

wow! i'm surely convinced that the NWO is going to sell us humans to the draconains for a meat source come 2012 ! ROTFL!

Well take a closer look at it, are we realy on earth to go to school, an other school and might an other after the first 2 schools, just to get a job to survive on earth. Then get a retirement in your 50 or 60+ years just for you working all those years receiving it at the years you can't do sh** with the money becous your to old?

I hardly doubt it...

They did that in 2001 ..the federation stopped them though.

I agree with you. Mr Heartless cannot run the world forever.

And he will resemble the Ronald McDonald clown .lol

I don't know about a new world order but what I can say is this country is very much weaker and more unprotected then 5 years ago .
What would happen right now if there was a staged terrorist attack on the united states that took the form of a major biological attack and wiped out half of the U S population and what if The top 1% percent of the ruling class was uneffected by this outbreak .As of now with the new laws that have been passed the government could take your land under eminent domain take you out by calling you a enemy combatant not show you the evidence for placing you under arrest and get this Torture you ...

Do you still feel safe in your free country ?

{heavy sigh} I'm much aware of this, and is why I like to go online to forget those
possibilities and make it through another daycoping with depression . meaning i dont cope well with depression. Good point to make because some dont realize that a free world hasnt been free of political buerocrosies.

hey bud dont let the basterd get you down I'm a believer.We are still Americans the people who like to think they are in charge are getting very arrogant they think they are the masters of this planet .The American people are asleep this is true but I believe Americans come together always in a time of great crisis.Even if that crisis is self made .We have many problems in this country and the chips are stacked against us with the propaganda machine on overdrive but even still the truth will come out and I already see people starting to wakeup and when they do things will change the best thing you can do is help someone else it always makes me feel good and also if you ever get down just watch this clip it always gives me goosebumps take it easy man there is still good out there .

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=45...;q=vendetta+911

My favorite line in that movie: " Blowing up a Building Can Change The World"

this antichrist sh** is all prophecy and prophecy has unfolded before r eyes and people of today dont take it in to perspective....they have taken the bible in hebrew and put all the words together without spaces or punctuation,and put it into a computer that interperates the code and turns it in to a number code that is than translated in words.anyway there are words that pop up that say things like hitler,jews,terror,holocaust , and sh** like edison,lightbulb,electricity etc. .... prophecy is writen in ancient code text that happens to be the mathimatical language a computer can understand. the nwo is uppon us, its psycological warefare just like that cold war and all the prapoganda...fear is instilled out brains to makes us act a certain way and if ur acting a certain way different from natural instinct than its control!!!!! [attachmentid=29076]

N W O = NEW WORLD ORDER; Thats what it means for us.


N W O = NEW WINDOW of OPPORTUNITY; Thats what it means for them.

I don't like it when people bag our current president,...it's not his fault he's stupid.

No no.

But as you judged, he is STUPID.

And, so are the people for electing him. But hey, I just sit and watch from up above, what do I know.

The way i see it K,
Presidents are not elected they are selected, predestined and or hand picked if you like by....
you guessed it the globle elite.

Im sure you are partly right dear friend.

If one cannot realize it is set up with such a moronic and mind bogglingly chimpanzee look-alike fool. Then, doom is what we are all headed for. Compare him to JFK, no wonder JFK got shot.... his visions were understandable.

I read on the net somewhere, that North,Central and South America will merge into an American Union for political and economical reasons. Some say that this plan is already in the pipline. It would be a reflection of the European Union. Mosts smaller countries would merge with other powerful nations for security reasons.

I think the new world order will emerge in 2012. Either that or Im just delusional LOL

lol..good one..his NWO plans have fizzled...he's not really from texas..and he's not really dumb...which one is true?...the illuminati are a bunch of losers!