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Atheist God
The only information I will give is it is a historical sight in Europe. If you can sketch or at the least describe the place I am thinking of it would be great. From what I hear the least amount of information about specifics works the best for remote viewing.
3rd rock resident alien
Colosseum
Bio-Mage
It would be prudent to have at least a couple of people that know of the answer to make sure you dont swing either way. A moderator perhaps or someone that can be trusted.
Ziggy Stardust
This experiment has limitations - how about something along these lines:

I have written a 4 digit number on a piece of paper. It is sitting on the windowsill of my study, in Auckland, New Zealand. It is written in the colour orange.

I sincerely doubt anyone will come close - but who knows?
Atheist God
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It would be prudent to have at least a couple of people that know of the answer to make sure you dont swing either way. A moderator perhaps or someone that can be trusted.


No my answer won't swing but i could tell a mod or someone i guess.
Atheist God
Alright AtlantisRises also knows the answer so now it can be verified.
lufia
did 3rd rock resident get it right ? tongue.gif
Atheist God
QUOTE(lufia @ Oct 18 2006, 05:33 AM) [snapback]1394831[/snapback]

did 3rd rock resident get it right ? tongue.gif

no infact he was way off
lufia
LOL false prophet
scipherel
It has some trees on the surrounding and grassses and parked cars.
People walking around, some are tourist but mostly europeans.
Roxie
Can I just suggest that everytime a location is proven to be incorrect, it just narrows down the search for everyone else? Eventaully the correct answer must be reached due to the process of ellimination.

rev r
This seems more like the classic clairvoyance experiment.

I think a remote viewing experiment would be more similar to what Socrates has suggested with the participants told to examine a specific location for a specific detail.

Much respect to Ganja Guru and Socrates for deciding to test the claims. Will we see further experiments of those who get it right?


As not to completely hijack the thread. I don't claim to be psychic so these are just random guesses for giggles (I suppose this would be a control).

GG: I'm thinking a building, not too old, maybe middle ages, used as a residence. (playing the odds wink2.gif )

Socrates: 4123 (a random number that popped in my head when I read your post)


jay322
phycics im sorry to say most of you are phycoligists and just dnt no it. although i do buelive some people do have the ability but with most its either a lie or phycoligy. well thats my opiniun! original.gif
Stellar
Stonehenge?
Bella-Angelique
If there is a prize I will throw this in. grin2.gif
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Unlimited
It is stonehenge tongue.gif im thinking of a number between one and ten what is it ?__ ..clue its not 9...... blush.gif
Jjbreen
QUOTE(GanjaGuru @ Oct 18 2006, 01:11 AM) [snapback]1394760[/snapback]

The only information I will give is it is a historical sight in Europe. If you can sketch or at the least describe the place I am thinking of it would be great. From what I hear the least amount of information about specifics works the best for remote viewing.


Actually - RV is not based on -"What place am I thinking of." There is a person or people there that are specific focal points and/or person/people put an actual object there. Meaning there is a bio/physical or emotional 'tag' at the "site" in question.

Other wise what you are doing is - "Can you read my mind..." which is very different from RV.

J - ph34r.gif
QueenOftheCramped
QUOTE(rev r @ Oct 18 2006, 02:40 PM) [snapback]1394985[/snapback]

Socrates: 4123 (a random number that popped in my head when I read your post)


Interesting. I was thinking of 4718 ??
QueenOftheCramped
QUOTE(GanjaGuru @ Oct 18 2006, 09:11 AM) [snapback]1394760[/snapback]

The only information I will give is it is a historical sight in Europe. If you can sketch or at the least describe the place I am thinking of it would be great. From what I hear the least amount of information about specifics works the best for remote viewing.


I was thinking of Stonehenge too. But then that's such an obvious choice...How about Menhirs & Dolmens...in Brittany maybe, or Ireland...rows of Stones, very green grass, ragged coastline nearby...probably totally wrong! tongue.gif rofl.gif
kitco
i saw a cathedral.....
and # poped in head was 4173
OMFG i ws so close to other person who guessed
PsiGirl
is it stonehenge, cause thats what i saw...
Atheist God
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I think a remote viewing experiment would be more similar to what Socrates has suggested with the participants told to examine a specific location for a specific detail.


The more random it is from what I have read and seen on TV from various sources, the more accurate it should be.

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As not to completely hijack the thread. I don't claim to be psychic so these are just random guesses for giggles (I suppose this would be a control).

If people are just guessing I will ask them to stop.

NO RANDOM GUESSING PEOPLE this is an experiment to see who gets it right...

I will also soon conduct similar tests for mediums and telepaths as well. My goal with these is to assertain whether or not claims of psychic powers can be verified or not.

Now to avoid random guessing through process of elimination I will end this test after 4 pages worth of answers and although I have confirmed that the location is not the colosseum i will no longer verify any 'wrong' answers until this test runs it's course. I will only reveal the answer when someone gets it or when this test ends.

BTW no second answers will be accepted. Now if you do not know what the place is specifically called just give the details I can verify if the descriptions match.
Atheist God
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Actually - RV is not based on -"What place am I thinking of." There is a person or people there that are specific focal points and/or person/people put an actual object there. Meaning there is a bio/physical or emotional 'tag' at the "site" in question.


Which is why i picked the site i did.
3rd rock resident alien
QUOTE(GanjaGuru @ Oct 18 2006, 10:57 AM) [snapback]1394843[/snapback]

no infact he was way off

Lufia, Keep it a secret. That title poses many risk as discuss in another thread ( http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...showtopic=78738 ). I may not have tap Ganja's Target but I may have tap a more serious one from another source that pose a great threat.

Colosseum is like a stadium. Homeland Security has issued a threat alert to 7 NFL stadium .

Socrates number: 5073
Jjbreen
QUOTE(GanjaGuru @ Oct 18 2006, 12:15 PM) [snapback]1395455[/snapback]

Which is why i picked the site i did.


So there is an object there?

Did you place the object there?

Now in object finding RV wise - the person is told what the object might be that is being looked for.

I'm not meaning to be difficult here. Just that RV is not random - there are limited specific details being looked for.

IE: Missing Person - shown picture of person.
IE: Person of interest - again picture of person being looked for.
IE: Object - stolen or missing - picture show of what is being looked for.

There is some 'attachment' that gives the RV a focal point to begin with. I've not seen or witness - I'm thinking of a place - where is it? Done w/ RV.

There is some visual point of contact - an object, person, etc that is being looked for.

So I would say, IE: "here is a picture of a child/object..." (not at the place of location) just a focal point - much a like Blood hound given a piece of cloth to find the person. then told - Find it.

RV in some circles is called Psi-Blood Hounds.

J - ph34r.gif
Atheist God
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So there is an object there?

Did you place the object there?

Now in object finding RV wise - the person is told what the object might be that is being looked for.

Would'nt that defeat the purpose...
In order for RV to work no specifics can be givin. Giving numerical cooridinates for example will not be used due to the obvious reason this is the internet and you could check google maps. The place I am using i do have a strong emotional connection to and i have also visited.

I'm not meaning to be difficult here. Just that RV is not random - there are limited specific details being looked for.
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IE: Missing Person - shown picture of person.
IE: Person of interest - again picture of person being looked for.
IE: Object - stolen or missing - picture show of what is being looked for.

There is some 'attachment' that gives the RV a focal point to begin with. I've not seen or witness - I'm thinking of a place - where is it? Done w/ RV.

Again I have been to this place on more then one occasion and i have left stuff there. Again I have a strong connection with this place through family etc.

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There is some visual point of contact - an object, person, etc that is being looked for.

So I would say, IE: "here is a picture of a child/object..." (not at the place of location) just a focal point - much a like Blood hound given a piece of cloth to find the person. then told - Find it.


It's in Europe
I have a connection with it physically and emotionally
There is a specific object there i am waiting to be either named or described

Other then the info above no other information will be givin. I chose the location i did based on variables that supposedly make it easier.

I will assign the target two randomized four digit numbers if it will make you happy as this is protocol...

2976 and 5487
ShaunZero
This topic is for mind readers... Not Remote Viewers. And if you're going to "Test" them, you'll need to understand how remote viewing works first before creating an experiment to test the ability. An example of using a "test" on an ability when the test does not fit correctly with the ability you want t test:

Asking a blind person to describe someone's attire from 400 feet away. You wan't to test out sight, but blind people. Here you want to test mind reading, but Remote Viewers don't read minds.

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Would'nt that defeat the purpose...
In order for RV to work no specifics can be givin.


How does make any logical sense at all? Remote Viewing is the ability to view some place or person who is not in your area of vision. If you want to test if someone can do it, you need to give them information. If you say "Find me", how are they suppose to know where you are? That would be the same as walking on foot and looking for you. What you need to do is something similar to this:

I'm in so and so building. There are 20 rooms. Tell me which room I'm in, and the ammount of fingers I am holding up. Also, tell me what is to my immediate left. That way you can actually test if they can see you when they are not even in the same building as you.
Unreality
Yeah Zero hit it. You are asking people to read your mind. Remote Viewing is just that, remote viewing. It is viewing places without being there. Socrates(I think that's who it was) made a pretty good example of a test to do. In remote viewing, you are given something to look for, a picture of the place or person or something. It isn't reading minds. I think it is cool that you are doing test, it's just that you are asking of something different from what you are testing.
lufia
QUOTE(3rd rock resident alien @ Oct 18 2006, 08:24 PM) [snapback]1395537[/snapback]

Lufia, Keep it a secret. That title poses many risk as discuss in another thread ( http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...showtopic=78738 ). I may not have tap Ganja's Target but I may have tap a more serious one from another source that pose a great threat.

Colosseum is like a stadium. Homeland Security has issued a threat alert to 7 NFL stadium .

Socrates number: 5073

ah i see yes.gif , good work, keep on it wink2.gif
Triad
Try this RV test.....

http://www.gotpsi.org/bi/gotpsi.htm

The rest can be defined with respect to a smilie.... grin2.gif that being the one.

Any thoughts?
Atheist God
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This topic is for mind readers... Not Remote Viewers. And if you're going to "Test" them, you'll need to understand how remote viewing works first before creating an experiment to test the ability. An example of using a "test" on an ability when the test does not fit correctly with the ability you want t test.

Again i looked up remote viewing and I feel I have made an alright test but if your just going to b**** don't post in this thread and make you own.
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Asking a blind person to describe someone's attire from 400 feet away. You wan't to test out sight, but blind people. Here you want to test mind reading, but Remote Viewers don't read minds.

I'm not asking them to read my mind i am asking them for either a name or a more or less accurate description of a historical landmark in Europe.
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How does make any logical sense at all? Remote Viewing is the ability to view some place or person who is not in your area of vision. If you want to test if someone can do it, you need to give them information.

Again if i give anymore information then i have already i will eliminate most of the possible locations. This using the process of elimination and random guessing will ensure the answer if found w/o using psychic ability. I gave them all the information they need.

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If you say "Find me", how are they suppose to know where you are? That would be the same as walking on foot and looking for you. What you need to do is something similar to this:

They know it's a historical landmark and it's in Europe i have also provided the numerical coordinates for them as specified in RV protocol they are random numbers.

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I'm in so and so building. There are 20 rooms. Tell me which room I'm in, and the ammount of fingers I am holding up. Also, tell me what is to my immediate left. That way you can actually test if they can see you when they are not even in the same building as you.


Again the sight I chose is a very unique one, descriptions will for sure give away the answer. BTW we are not in a building which is why i chose a historical landmark in Europe all I am asking for is which landmark.

They have a general search area and they know they are looking for a landmark that is all they need.
Ziggy Stardust
QUOTE(rev r @ Oct 18 2006, 01:40 PM) [snapback]1394985[/snapback]

Socrates: 4123 (a random number that popped in my head when I read your post)




QUOTE(QueenOftheCramped @ Oct 18 2006, 05:13 PM) [snapback]1395304[/snapback]

Interesting. I was thinking of 4718 ??


blink.gif You're both reasonably close!

I suggest both of you guess one last time, with full concentration, before I reveal the number.
Atheist God
QUOTE(Socrates @ Oct 18 2006, 11:14 PM) [snapback]1396070[/snapback]

blink.gif You're both reasonably close!

I suggest both of you guess one last time, with full concentration, before I reveal the number.


No guessing numbers here if you want to do that start your own thread.
Withoutnight
Big Ben!!!
Withoutnight
Is this a lottery? What is gained by this question?
I am sure that at some point someone is going to give you the answer that you want, but come on, is it really the truth?
Withoutnight
2713?



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Atheist God
QUOTE(Withoutnight @ Oct 19 2006, 02:55 AM) [snapback]1396204[/snapback]

Is this a lottery? What is gained by this question?
I am sure that at some point someone is going to give you the answer that you want, but come on, is it really the truth?


No lottery here and as to what is gained well my own personal satisfaction of course.

Maybe i might get my answer and maybe i won't you will just have to wait and see.
Ziggy Stardust
Alrighty then. The numbers question is being moved into a new thread.
Annointer
I agree that this is about mind reading. It's the same as saying "I'm thinking of a number, guess what it is."
ShaunZero
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Again i looked up remote viewing and I feel I have made an alright test but if your just going to b**** don't post in this thread and make you own.


You need to calm the hell down and learn how to take criticism.

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I'm not asking them to read my mind i am asking them for either a name or a more or less accurate description of a historical landmark in Europe.


How will that work? You just say "I'm thinking of a building in Europe". So in other words they do have to read your mind in order to know which building it is you want them to look for.


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Again if i give anymore information then i have already i will eliminate most of the possible locations. This using the process of elimination and random guessing will ensure the answer if found w/o using psychic ability. I gave them all the information they need.


All the information they need? Ok, here's a recap. Remote Viewing is the ability to view a location that is not near the physical body. Remote Viewers can't read minds. Now, you're asking them to find a place in Europe that you're thinking of... That is not testing RV, it's testing mind reading. You'd have to tell them a location, so they know what to look for in the first place! Such as "My room is at so and so location, now inside of my room I have something written on my floor under my bed, what does it say?". They need to know what to look for exactly, but you must also know that they can't access this location with the physical body.



Just read more. So you DID give them an idea of WHERE to look for? Or did you only tell them to go to a place you're thinking of?
Withoutnight
QUOTE(Annointer @ Oct 19 2006, 01:37 AM) [snapback]1396225[/snapback]

I agree that this is about mind reading. It's the same as saying "I'm thinking of a number, guess what it is."


6?
ShaunZero
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They have a general search area and they know they are looking for a landmark that is all they need.


You gave them a location to look for? Other than Europe itself? Let's say they can get out of their body and view Europe... How do they know wich one you're thinking of? Tell us that.
ImaLoner
I'm a bit confused, and not trying to be, uhm, difficult. Ganja.. what I want to know is: Are you asking for folks to tell you the location that you are thinking of or the two items that you have placed there (in the past), which I also need to ask... If you didn't JUST place the items you claim to have set at this location, how can you even be sure that those items are still THERE? Just curious. You mentioned that a person who is RV should be able to tell you the location, but you also state that you can't tell the items you left there (as per rv, a person is sometimes given an object to locate). You not only want location but what the objects are, as well? As I said, I'm confused. How could you telling what the objects are compromise the experiment?
Mr Walker
Edinburgh castle under lights, in the evening.
kitco
red light district...
twoscoops
all i see is a park or cemetary
majik
well which is it
ImaLoner
Jim Morrison's grave... ????
scipherel
I'd like to remind that remote viewing was only effective on real situation and not on test. There is no link for a psychic to attached anything on test. If you really want to prove this thing, find a case of a missing person and show us some link to this person like favorite dress, stuffs etc. Thanks.
Atheist God
QUOTE(scipherel @ Oct 19 2006, 11:25 PM) [snapback]1397508[/snapback]

I'd like to remind that remote viewing was only effective on real situation and not on test. There is no link for a psychic to attached anything on test. If you really want to prove this thing, find a case of a missing person and show us some link to this person like favorite dress, stuffs etc. Thanks.


See if i did that it would make it to easy and i wanted this one to be hard.

The object i left there is still there and i know it is because it is still there every year i have gone back. If it hasn't disappeard in 5 years i doubt it will anytime soon....
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