I have a question reqarding the widely held belief that ghosts are the"souls" of people whom have passed on in death. The way I interrpret the meaning of souls, is that it is the self aware ethereal substance that is paticular to each individual, or in other words the unmaterial conscious self after death.

To my question,
If ghosts are souls of the departed, then why do they more comomnly than not have clothes on when they "materialize" as apparitions?

The soul is the conscious awareness of self, not of the clothes it has worn in the past.

Just a question, I would appreciate any response.

Welcome to the forum obsidian_purple.




Edd: wrong thread.

It's up for debate, I dont even believe in Ghost's so for me questioning the origin is out of the question. But if I had to say something, I would think it would have those ties to religion. Because the soul rises out from the body after death, and some believe it can be trapped on earth.

I think the OP was referring to more than just photographs. Taking in your question if that is the case, one would have to believe that ghost do in fact exist and materialize.

Firstly, ghosts are not souls of the departed. Ghosts are residual energy imprints/replays in the right conditions. They're not aware or able to interact with us as the soul/spirit is elsewhere. If they appear fully clothed then so be it, it's nothing more than a projection from the past.

If it's a spirit manifestation then there's no rule to how they may appear or make themselves known. If they choose to materalise as their physical self then it will be in line of their identity.

I tend to agree with Anvil on this one. But, for arguments sake, say I decided to drop in and visit somebody when I die, I think I would choose to do so clothed. Seeing a ghost would be shocking enough, seeing a ghost naked would be downright traumatizing!

If Johnny Depp dies and decides to visit me...well you can figure out the rest.

Interesting post Anvil.
It sounds as though you are an expert on ghosts and what they are, what they do and why.
Can you please show me any proof and also expand on how you know so much...have you talked to them and had them answer to give you all of this knowledge?

All is know is they are real.
I don't think that they think about being humble or shy, so they show up clothed.
I don't have any theories on this at all.
I just know what I, and many people throughout my family, have seen and felt, and the spiritual world is real.

Oh, and ethyl, no more mentioning Johnny Depp and DEATH in the same sentence!!!!

Well I've been receptive since I was a child and grew up in an actively haunted house. My many experiences have shaped my knowledge over the years.

I've seen both ghosts and spirits and yeah I can also sometimes comunicate with them. I'm clairvoyant which means it's all visual communication. It's like using another language not quite as straight foward as having a conversation with someone. They communicate to me by showing me things, my job is to pull out the correct meanings.

For example if one was talking about what they did for a living and say they were a farmer, they may communicate this by showing me a tractor with tools or animals. It's like seeing their memories or thoughts, to me that is what one uses to communicate with in spirit - memories, feelings and thoughts. All I'm doing is recieving and then interpretating or decoding them.

You may ask at this point, how do you know it's not just your imagination and that's a good question.

It's something that with practice, development and guidence from my spirit guides that i get to know which is what. When I'm aware of a spirit that's connecting I can sense it's energy first and that is my cue to get into 'mode'. When I say 'mode' I mean focusing in on the energy, so I make a concious descion to work with it. It's quite different from just random type 'day dreaming' where your thoughts are emerged elsewhere or you suddenly find your self in a day dream. While in 'mode' I'm also fully aware of what's going on around me and fully functional. I could hold a conversation you and be in mode at the same time. Although getting to that stage has only come with practise.

When I first started to develop I had to rely on meditation to achieve it. Although I was always receptive, in the early stages I had very little communcation skills, it really has been like learning a new langauge. The only actual communication I had then was with my guides and that was deliberate, I had to learn and develop to a certain stage with them first. The hardest hurdle to overcome was trusting in my abilty and not being scared.

My guides way of helping me overcome this was to show me things and words I'd never seen before, like showing me an object and then a word in a different language and leaving me to figure it out. I could research and confirm. It's only with confirmation that you have anything to build on. With research or a dictionary I could look these things up and be amazed every time to find they matched. They still keep me on my toes with this game.

Then one of my early spirit communication experiences was also a remote viewing one. This incident happened with an online friend (skeptic) who I'd never met before, we were chatting online and I became aware of a spirit. I focused in on the energy and started to reel off everything I was being shown to my friend. I told him I could see a man, I described him and gave his name. He was laughing and mocking me at first and didn't know who the man was. The man started to show me sorroundings and as I was describing these things my friend went quiet for ages lol .

He then told me that I was describing his house to a T and the room he was sitting in. Things like specific paintings on the wall, layout of the room, where all the furniture was, the colours of them etc. I then was shown the same house but in a different time period, so again reeled all the descriptions off. The house had drastically changed and my friend was able to confirm that these changes had taken place over the years. My friend was really floored by it and couldn't get his head around it. He kept saying, you have never been here, you have never seen any pics, you've seen nothing, how are you doing this!!!

A few days later we were talking again and he said by the way your not going to believe this but I have found out who the man is. He used to live here... With that my friend said you have turned me from skeptic to believer.

This experience for me was just as amazing because it was more confirmation.

Anyway, I can't offer you any concreate proof other than my experiences. But I hope this bit of insight to what I'm about is helpful

Your job is to pull out the "correct meanings". OK...that tells me a lot.
They show you things....in what way? Do they hold them up?
If they are "talking" about what they did for a living why would you have to "decode" it?
You have invisible "guides" that also talk to you?
Your "guide" showed you words that you have never seen before?
Makes perfect sense to me.
So this makes a person an expert on what a ghost is and when and where it will show itself and why.
Considering that ghosts have never been proven to exist how can anyone be an expert about the matter?

Your job is to pull out the "correct meanings". OK...that tells me a lot.

Interpretation yes. If someone shows you a picture or a painting, you'll look at it and work out what the artist was trying to convey. Sometimes it's obvious, sometimes it's not.

They show you things....in what way? Do they hold them up?

It's like reading a picture book. Communication flows with images.

If they are "talking" about what they did for a living why would you have to "decode" it?

see above...I'm sorry you didn't understand my example, I tryed to make it as simple as I could

You have invisible "guides" that also talk to you?

They are spirit, they aren't invisible to me


Your "guide" showed you words that you have never seen before?

Yep in other languages, it's a development game.

Not always...I couldn't tell you when the next ghost will appear. They are random acts.... But if I came across one I may be able to focus on the residual energy and get something from that.

You didn't answer my question....how are you an expert on an entity that hasn't proven to exist?
Thats like myself saying I'm an expert on pink elephants.
How can anyone be so precise about something that is not proven?
Maybe you can show some of your conversations with these spirits by recording or something. Also you say you can see them....maybe a picture would help.

But to me it is proven to exist. I go by my experiences as I explained. I don't have the kind of evidence on paper that you are looking for.

I've only ever seen a handful of manifestations strong enough to the naked eye so far in my life. They are rare.... And each time has been when I least expected it, no camera on hand...

Not all spirit experiences are external physical ones. Untill they work out a way to record what our senses pick up then...

The only bit of evidence I have is an EVP. It's kicking around this forum somewhere...

Welcome to UM obsidian! This subject came up before and I have searched for it for over 10 minutes with no luck. Thought it would be nice for you to see the replies. Had a really good answer, just can't remember it. I really feel like it has to do with projection and being recognized. The clothes don't really make the person or the energy. It is a way for them to announce who they are though. Other ways maybe a special scent such as a particular perfume or cigar, or maybe their special chair always being moved to an exact position. This is just my opinion. Hope you enjoy your visits.

Anvil, you have a wonderful gift and have shared it several times by being unselfish enough to throughly explain things to any people. Thank you for being you!

Hey Swampgator, what are you afraid of?
What does it mean to you if ghosts and spirits are real?

hi , like what you wrote is it possible to see a family of ghost ie mum dad son,daughter
[all wearing clothes] . i didnt know who they were

Well said.

Yep Johnny can wear what ever he wants and visit any old time he wants with no complaints from me at all.

Sure it could.

Can you tell us more about this, sounds interesting?

Yes I would agree with that also

That is bull. A ghost doesn't know there dead or is trapped I don't care about. But I do know that a poltergist in my Grandfather (twice removed) home killed off my family in there. One stepped back and the coffee table moved underneath his feet. No one saw it but it was 2 metres from where it should have been. And his wife as described was pushed down the stairs. That same ghost would poke my Aunty in the shoulder and told her to leave. And would wake my cousin up when he was 5 years old.

Ghosts can't interact is bull. No imprint could do that.

Ghost, Spirit and Poltergiest mean different things.

If the entity interacts with you then it's not a ghost

it was about 4pm on the 9th of dec 04 they were old bluidings and a river, i could here childern laughing [but it was as if it wasnt a real laugh if you know what i mean] so i followed the sound of laughter and it took me to a dead end which was dark, i stopped
Isaid to my self dont go in there so i ask for them to come out of the darkness and out came father mother son and daughter. they all stopped about 30ft away from me , and then the father moved over to me. he put out his hand to shake mine but i declied and said to him he has a nice family and god bless you all, he said thank you and they all walked away back to the 1st place i heard the laughter i followed but could not see them
hope this makes sence to you or any one else

What was it about them that made you think spirits rather than living people?

the way i felt and that they were no one about, the way they look and dressed, looked like 1900
style clothes.

Hi, Anvil. I'm sensitive to things. It sounds like you've really developed this. Since I have experienced quite a bit in my home and have picked up on things, how does one develope this. It's not like you can go, "Hey, Spirit Guide, help me out!" Or can you?

I know I've experienced being touched and moved. I've also had music boxes play on their own, and no, they haven't been wound in years. I also see those pesky lights moving through the room.

Enlighten me, please!

Well If you really want to develop it further, and this is a serious question you have to ask yourself, lol it took me years before I decided to take it seriously and develop it, But that was alot to do with my maturity. I will say this, not everyone is able. But if you're already receptive then that is a good start.

I started out with a mentor, a very experienced practising (30 years +) medium. She discovered me as she likes to put it, and believes there was a spiritual purpose for taking me under her wing. She was on hand for me to talk to about what I was experiencing and to reasure me when things got freaky ( as it did alot in the early stages) She never dictated to me or anything, I was mostly left to figure out for myself and to establish a relationship with my guides.

When I was ready, I joined a development circle, it was then that things really started to take off for me. I was constantly getting links for people during these sessions ( it's just an oportunity to be with others in the same shoes and practise linking)

I still go along sometimes, but for the most part I'm on my own now. I'm nowhere near ready to practise properly yet or do offical readings for people ( probably another 5 - 10 years away of development) but as time goes on it's becoming clearer that I probably won't ever do that kind of mediumship work. My niche seems to be with spirit rescue, cleansing and remote viewing in which I already have a good (but unoffical) reputation for.

So basically where it all starts is with your spirit guide. Discovering them and getting to know them. The best method is with meditation. It's meditation you want to master first, if it's ment to be the rest will be revealed to you with that.

When I first started to meditate I found it hard and it took me a while to find the style that worked for me. Some like using music, some like using visual pictures to focus on. You have to experiment a bit and find out what you like. Start off little and often, 10, 15 mins daily and try to keep to the same routine. Your mind WILL start to expect it and want it as it's very peacful and relaxing... When you get used to it you can increase the time bit by bit. I've found that I can't take any longer than 50 mins at a time. Somedays I miss out and some days I may do 2 or 3 sessions.

Meditation isn't all just for development or spiritual stuff, there is alot of benifits to it as well, depends what your intent with meditation is really... But I've got the coolest meditation that really makes you buzz (natural high) by the way. Not for beginners though

Sunny if you want to discuss this any further drop me a PM...