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Lionel
The year 2006 is to become the critical point of the outburst of the international terrorism. This conclusion was made by Israeli mathematician Dr. Eliya Rips as a result of the research the scientist had conducted with encoded Biblical messages.

Eliya Rips and former Washington Post mathematician Michael Drosnin published the book titled "The Bible Code" in 1997. The book contained the description of the attack of the Twin Towers and the crash of the Shuttle of Columbia.

The book was a great success and certain circles of the Washington establishment evinced interest in it. European newspapers wrote, Michael Drosnin had been invited for a secret meeting at the Pentagon. The journalist made a report about the deciphered information taken from the Bible, ITAR-TASS reported.

Dr. Eliya Rips deciphered, the year 2006 would become the critical point from the point of view of the terrorist threat. The mathematician believes, a crisis with the use of the nuclear weapon will take place in the Middle East in 2006. Jerusalem, Tel Aviv and New York will be the cities implicated in the conflict. Michael Drosnin said, the threat would be coming from Osama bin Laden or from his people, if al-Qaida's leader stays alive until 2006, of course.

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Naveed
I've never really trusted predictions that "come" from the bible. It seemed really odd to me that all the "Bible" predictions came out after 9-11. If they were really accurate then why don't ppl try and prevent the events in the first place? Also they never give the actual passages. I read all of revelation and found nothing that matched up with world current events. My pastor once said "The Bible says there will be unrest in the middle east." Well I got news for him. There has been unrest in the middle east for centuries. I want to see actual supporting passages and not just hear or read what ppl say the Bible predicts or the Bible says.
GreyFoxSolid
I understand your line of thinking but he's not referring to any particular passage. He's referring to the Bible Code. Look up on it, pretty interesting.
Nancy
QUOTE (GreyFoxSolid @ Nov 9 2003, 11:03 AM)
I understand your line of thinking but he's not referring to any particular passage. He's referring to the Bible Code. Look up on it, pretty interesting.

By any chance, do you have any LINKS to go with this? The Pravda article is rather short and doesn't provide the details on "Bible Code"...... thank you!
Seraphina
Really got to agree with Naveed to be honest...if this code can predict these events, then why wasn't anything done before they happened? More likely people just read actual events into whatever they think they're seeing in this 'code', regardless of whether it's relevant or not...
TheLight
This decoding of the Bible or of the Torah has been well known for a long time, basically you pick 1 letter out of n for every chunk of n letters, and it has been proven that with a sufficiently big book you could find any message you want. It's very well known in the mathemical community. So it's just mathematics, nothing predictive in there, you could find the same predictions by applying the same methods to a dictionary or to a phone book. And some mathematicians even showed such examples.

Ok, let's play a little mind game now about the future events to take place in 2006. If it's predicted in the bible then it's going to happend (if we assume the true nature of the prediction), no matter if we decode the future events or not it will happend because otherwise it wouldn't be a prediction in the first place.

To conclude I have the feeling that this Isreali mathematician finds the predictions that help push his governement agenda.

TheLight
FreyKade
well like some of the previous posts said.....why wernt these prections eve out before the event...only after...i dont really know about the mathamatics and what not...but to me it doesnt seems like the bible or torah are predicting anything...instead i feel that they are looked for after the event just to make that particular religion look more ..."real".
Kryso
I’m sorry, but I’ve never believed in this Bible Code… If you take any manuscript and go over it enough times, and extract variants, and twist and turn it every which way but Sunday, then you can make any legible – or illegible – series of words or phrases mean anything you want it too. And like wise, its easy to predict something after its happened, and as far as I know its not called prediction, its called the News!
MooseMan
I am of the opinion that there is truth in the Bible Code, and the good folk at the Pentagon are appartently in agreement with me!

A code has been searched for in War and Peace but none was found, as a control if you like.

I'm surprised more people havent commented on this as it was a big article in the Daily Mail (UK newspaper)
moe eubleck
Really now! How hard is it to predict human nature ? Doesnt exactly take a genius to figure out. THERE WILL BE WAR IN THE YEARS TO COME! PEOPLE WILL DIE! BUILDINGS WILL BLOW UP !! PEOPLE WILL STARVE!!
theres my prediction. you can quote me on that. thumbsup.gif ya think it will come true?
Naveed
QUOTE (moe eubleck @ Nov 13 2003, 07:47 PM)
Really now! How hard is it to predict human nature ? Doesnt exactly take a genius to figure out. THERE WILL BE WAR IN THE YEARS TO COME! PEOPLE WILL DIE! BUILDINGS WILL BLOW UP !! PEOPLE WILL STARVE!!
theres my prediction. you can quote me on that. thumbsup.gif ya think it will come true?

OMG! You're PROPHESIZING! w00t.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
Hune
The answers are coming. Everything is gathering and approaching one point, the point of revolution. Overwhelming doubt is splintering in everyone's minds and causing people to wonder. Non believers are starting to believe and the Bible is being re-enveloped into the younger generations. Decision in yourself on whether to prepare or to stand ignorant is in our thoughts. Angels are re-appearing and prophets returning. Everything is moving faster with no sign of stopping.
Surely there is a reason why you are all searching for answers? If you doubt in the Bible then why are you all so intent on discovering? When you ask yourself if you believe there are few who say they do not.
moe eubleck
Im beggining to notice a unexplained mystery on UM. It can be called " the people who leave one profound post then never post again" phenomenon.
I wonder what it means. Aliens ? Reptoids ?? El chupacabra ??? A message from beyond the grave ???? An outburst of intrenational terrorism ????? blink.gif eyecrazy.gif
Kryso
QUOTE (moe eubleck @ Nov 13 2003, 05:36 PM)
It can be called, "The people who leave one profound post, then never post again -" phenomenon.

Or the people who shout “FAKE!” and don’t expand on that genius theory. Those are my favourites, lol…


By the way, the thread caught my attention, because it read:

Bible Predicts Outbreak Of…moe eubleck blink.gif
moe eubleck
QUOTE (Kryso @ Nov 14 2003, 01:36 AM)
[:

Bible Predicts Outbreak Of…moe eubleck blink.gif

an outburst of Me would be a event to behold of cataclysmic proportions.
May it never come true. screama.gif
Hune
Three years to go. Then in the dusk the world will be faced with a battle of two halves. Light will flicker under the overwhelming hatred and evil, letting us pick our side on which we may give ourselves for what we believe is worth saving.
schadeaux
I put Bible Code stuff in the same category as Nostradamus. We can really see the predictions they made and how accurate they were ( ohmy.gif )... after the events actually happen. Then we try to find the "hidden" revelations in anything else they said. If we believe the Aztecs, the world will end before 2006 anyways. But then no one will be around to look back and say "Hey, those Aztec dudes really knew the future!" So...


Why worry?
Seraphina
QUOTE (Hune @ Nov 14 2003, 07:36 AM)
Three years to go. Then in the dusk the world will be faced with a battle of two halves. Light will flicker under the overwhelming hatred and evil, letting us pick our side on which we may give ourselves for what we believe is worth saving.

Only three years to go...then, in the dusk, one half of the world will go to sleep like the always do, as the other half rises, while wondering what an extremely vague time was chosen for such a prophesy, given it can't be dusk everywhere. Light will flicker for a moment behind the eyes of doom sayers, as they realise "hang on, the apocalypse is late!" leaving the rest of us to pick our breakfast, and what we believe is worth eating.


Of course, after we've had breakfast, we'll add that to the list of 400+ other doomsday predictions that didn't come true rolleyes.gif
moe eubleck
QUOTE (Hune @ Nov 14 2003, 07:36 AM)
Three years to go. Then in the dusk the world will be faced with a battle of two halves. Light will flicker under the overwhelming hatred and evil, letting us pick our side on which we may give ourselves for what we believe is worth saving.

Listen up Hune, I have heard a few whoppers in my time, but taking something you found on a fortune cookie and placing it on UM takes the cake. Oh.... dont tell me , dont tell me: yes I am a sinner and Im going to burn and all that good stuff. But even in the flaming depths of hades, I will never ever take advice from a cookie.
Once again this biblical outburst was brought to you by Moe Eubleck. wink2.gif
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Hune
Why does someone so intent on disproving everything in their eyes try to prove it to themselves later? Why does one leave God to the fate of reason or logic, only to go back and save pick him up again because you do not fully disbelieve. There is doubt in everyone whether the time of reckoning will come, but even though we dismiss prophecies to the wind we secretly want to believe in what they say. We are torn between logic and faith. One gives us reason, while the other shreds our reason. No one can be forced to believe, they must believe for themselves. I am not prophesizing, as I do not have faith that I am right. I am only acting on what I feel is coming inside, and getting it off my chest.
moe eubleck
QUOTE (Hune @ Nov 14 2003, 07:03 PM)
I do not have faith that I am right.

Im sure you aren't the only one who doesnt have faith that you are right. rolleyes.gif
*pats head* Aint it great to be in the in crowd ? Welcome to the forum. thumbsup.gif

so tell me hune... aside from all the doomsday predictions, what are your thoughts on El Chupacabra?
Naveed
Hey moe eubleck, I was wondering if you have any insight as to wheter El Chupacabra is involved with the end of the world at all?
moe eubleck
revalations 17:8 The beast that you saw was, and is not; and is about to come up out of the abyss and to go into destruction. Those who dwell on the earth and whose names have not been written in the book of life from the foundation of the world will marvel when they see that the beast was, and is not, and shall be present.


This beast referred to in Revelations 17:8 is obviously El Chupacabra. For it is the beast that people claim to see , but cannot be proven to exist. The line "about to come up out of the abyss and to go into destruction" tells us that someday very soon, El Chupacabra will rise from The hollow earth (the abyss) and destroy us all.
"those who dwell on the earth" points to all living things, and the world will marvel at El Chupacabra (the beast that was and is not), for its image will be so vivid and terrifying that our souls will shriek in fear.

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This pic is a biblical painting of the beast that was and is not. Notice the fangs and dark colored fur. Clearly, the beasts on the bottom of the painting are El Chupacabra.

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The 2 beasts bear a striking resemblance to this pic taken by a sheep-herder.

Repent thy sins my brothers and sisters for the lone beast of the apocalypse will soon be upon us. Fear El Chupacabra!!!
Seraphina
Something just occured to me...when the antichrist comes and starts wreaking havoc, and killing all the sinners...

What'll happen when someone inevitably shoots him? huh.gif

Assuming Moa's theory is incorrect, that is wink2.gif (can just see the entire world going "oh...he's dead....well that was an anticlimax...")
Xenojjin
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Something just occured to me...when the antichrist comes and starts wreaking havoc, and killing all the sinners...

What'll happen when someone inevitably shoots him?


This is what is in revalations .

When the antichrist comes he will take control of 10 major nations and seemingly promise peace between the world . He will take control of trade and everyone will have a mark on them in order for them to buy food . The christians will begin to see signs of him being the antichrist as he will begin to try and claim to be the son of god ( he will be lying , he is the son of satan ) . Thats where your question comes in ... one of us christians is going to basically snipe him in the head and he is going to reserect himself . He will then in a sense have proof that he is the son of god as the only conclusion doctors will be able to make to explain him still being alive is immortality . He will then gradually get everyone to follow him and start killing the christians .

Inevitibly once the christians are gone he will reveal himself as the son of satan and it will be too late for his followers . The remaining humans who followed him will be cast into hell .

After that we move into the battle of the souls ... but that is a loooong story .
Seraphina
Is this before, or after he gets taken out of whatever position of power he's in, and tossed in a loony bin when he starts claiming to be the son of god? huh.gif
Xenojjin
he never gets taken out of position of power . He won't get tossed in the loony bin when he claims to be the son of god because he will have plenty of proof that he really is .
Seraphina
In the eyes of whom, exactly?...you seem to forget that a majority of the world's population are not, in fact, christian tongue.gif How is it you propose he magically takes control of these 10 leading nations given the current system of government in most developed countries? Exactly what astounding proof is he going to present to prove he is who he claims to be? tongue.gif

The person who wrote the bible obviously didn't take into account the shift in politics the world was going to undergo, and that one day, we wouldn't take thunder, flood, or a solar eclipse as a sign that god was angry. tongue.gif
Xenojjin
their wont be that many christians left when he rises to power . Christianity is supposedly going to lose quite a bit of popularity . The thing is , what your asking has a very big and very long answer to it . I can see how you may ask it . Someone has already explained how it can be done with the book series "Left Behind" . It should explain the answers to your confusion if you have time to read all of the books . They are very well written books anyway so you should read them just because they are good even if you stop caring about this topic .
moe eubleck
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Here is your antichrist. and he has the ONE ring............
Naveed
OMG! Where is a hobbit when you need one? And that dumb Smeagol! Smeagol where are you?!
PsychicPenguin
Uhm... bible code?

What about this?
http://cs.anu.edu.au/~bdm/dilugim/wtc.html

The Mobby Dick code thumbsup.gif
bathory
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He will then gradually get everyone to follow him and start killing the christians .



wait a second, he first claims to be the son of god, and then tells everyone to kill christians? wouldn't that give it away?
Nowhere
So it is true! The ring is the last thing you see before you die.

Just started reading this board thanks to our friends over at helpforsensitivies and I'm listing to a random playlist of tunes and some seem relevant to this post, here are some lyrics

*ahem*
The bible is bullshit, the Couran is a lie, the (hindu bible) did not fall from the sky, these are the books that were written by man, they cause wars, now follow if you can.

--Corporate Avenger


He's the farmer's barren fields, the force the army wields, the expressions on the faces of the startving millions, the power of the man, the fuel that drives the clan, he's the motive and the conscience of the murderer, the preacher on tv, the false sincerity, the form letter that's written by the big computers, the nuclear bombs, the kids with no moms and I'm fearful that he's inside me.

--Bad Religion
- American Jesus

and lastly,

Jennifer lost the war today they'll find her burned and raped, through it all she must have wondered what have I done, but nobody really cares today the world's a busy place, guess she must have really sinned now

--The Offspring.


The preceding statement is merely an observation it is not tended to treat, cure, or diagnose anything. The following statement is true, the preceding statement is false.


I remain....

Nowhere
BobaFett
I find it hard to believe the bible's "hidden messages" tells all about 9-11, but yet says nothing on Hitler or even WW2
Naveed
In all honesty, I'm sure that in WW2 there were ppl quoting parts from the Bible saying that the war was predicted and that it was teh end of the world then. It's to easy to messages out of stuff. Just look at any sermon. They don't focus on a single section (book or chapter), but instead take out verses from different books and chapters and piece together messages out of them. The bible code works the same way, just they pull random letters and words off a page and put together sentences. I'm sure you could take a Stephen King novel and pull out an end of the world or two tower thing from there to. It doesn't mean it's legit though.
bigsteff
in a word crap....like cmost things including your stars,,you tend to read things into it.....i.e,,,,,do you know someone with the letter f and where's blue alot..


yes frank,,always wears a blue coat
yes franchesca ,,always wears blue shoes


you will read things into what you want
PsychicPenguin
Have any of you actually check my link?

http://cs.anu.edu.au/~bdm/dilugim/wtc.html

It is not about the bible code, but about the code found in the novel Mobby Dick.

And remember, the bible forbid any form of divinations

BTW, it's nice to see that most people don't know that it is a hoax, so my next book "The Quran Code" can alo be a best seller wink2.gif
Naveed
Yep I read your link. I thought it was hilarious. I wonder what I can intereprate out of the song lyrics to Iron Maiden's - Number of the Beast besides the obvious. lol
crosswarrior
Why must the pitiful masses attempt to interpret the future whan we do not even understand the past or the present.
Fluffybunny
That is so, so deep... crying.gif
marduk
QUOTE(moe eubleck @ Nov 13 2003, 09:47 PM)
Really now! How hard is it to predict human nature ?  Doesnt exactly take a genius to figure out. THERE WILL BE WAR IN THE YEARS TO COME! PEOPLE WILL DIE! BUILDINGS WILL BLOW UP !! PEOPLE WILL STARVE!!
  theres my prediction. you can quote me on that.  thumbsup.gif  ya think it will come true?
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Moe next weeks lottery numbers
what are they
isis-999
QUOTE(BobaFett @ Dec 6 2003, 08:08 PM)
I find it hard to believe the bible's "hidden messages" tells all about 9-11, but yet says nothing on Hitler or even WW2
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Never seen the doc.s on the codes have you!.. They are full of ww2 and hilter! as well as the US bombing of Japan!.. But since it's what almost 70 years later, it's pretty easy to predict what the out come was! w00t.gif
DJ_Quinn
Here are my predictions for the next 12 months:

A major world leader will die in office.
There will be a massive earthquake in Asia.
There will be many suicide bombing attacks.
A major celebrity will be murdered.


Its a numbers game. make enough predictions and a few will come true.
marduk
for what its worth
my prediction
I predict that this year I will NOT win the lottery
now come on irony don't let me down
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isis-999
Those are very good. I would say at least two will happen! laugh.gif laugh.gif
DJ_Quinn
QUOTE(marduk @ Jul 27 2005, 02:34 PM)
for what its worth
my prediction
I predict that this year I will NOT win the lottery
now come on irony don't let me down
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I'm still buying my Euro-millions tickets. £89 million is a nice jackpot.
isis-999
I can't believe people buy into this.. Take any book that has a vast amount of words, And you will be able to find words that line up. hmm.gif
Solofront
QUOTE(Xenojjin @ Nov 15 2003, 06:56 PM)
QUOTE
Something just occured to me...when the antichrist comes and starts wreaking havoc, and killing all the sinners...

What'll happen when someone inevitably shoots him?


This is what is in revalations .

When the antichrist comes he will take control of 10 major nations and seemingly promise peace between the world . He will take control of trade and everyone will have a mark on them in order for them to buy food . The christians will begin to see signs of him being the antichrist as he will begin to try and claim to be the son of god ( he will be lying , he is the son of satan ) . Thats where your question comes in ... one of us christians is going to basically snipe him in the head and he is going to reserect himself . He will then in a sense have proof that he is the son of god as the only conclusion doctors will be able to make to explain him still being alive is immortality . He will then gradually get everyone to follow him and start killing the christians .

Inevitibly once the christians are gone he will reveal himself as the son of satan and it will be too late for his followers . The remaining humans who followed him will be cast into hell .

After that we move into the battle of the souls ... but that is a loooong story .
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i say, if we all are still here when the antichrist is revealed that we snipe him and all those who oppose...f*c#ing lucifer he knows hes allready lost thumbsup.gif
marduk
Does this kind of thing worry you guys
Theres still time for you to convert you know
my religion guarantees me life everlasting right here on earth til the end of time or the destrcution of earth, whichever comes first.
I'd be like switzerland in any future religious war
Neutral
if anyone would like me to look after their cash during this trying period let me know
i'd be glad to help
and remember if you're a christian you really can't take it with you
personally i can leave it buried here and collect it each time i get back
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