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virusdeath0
I just thought of something about Aura. The atmosphere around ur body can be found on all living things. When u meet someone or be around someone u may feel calm and relaxed because they have such a calm atmosphere they bring with. Just like some people can brighten a room on entry (not really. So don't question that). Some people on experience with a ghost they feel depressed or cold because the atmosphere they give of. You can find Aura on ghosts. But if ghost are dead. And aura shows on all living things or things able to be killed or destoryed. Does that mean there is a phyical way of killing a ghost? huh.gif
Accident
how can you kill a ghost if its already dead....
but don't they "kill" a ghost with exorcism or something like that...or are those spirits/demons...omg whats the difference
virusdeath0
Aura are only on living things so living things must be able to die. Maybe ghosts are alive and we just don't understand the afterlife. But has anyone tryed to hit them with a stick. I'm just acting on fact. Living things can die and energy only comes off living things or machines which can be destroyed to.
Celestial city
Ghosts are entities, spirits, they're already dead. How can you kill one which is already dead?
By the way, do ghosts ever kill humans?
Duppy Conqueror
QUOTE(Celestial city @ Oct 22 2006, 05:17 AM) [snapback]1399777[/snapback]

Ghosts are entities, spirits, they're already dead. How can you kill one which is already dead?
By the way, do ghosts ever kill humans?


Theres actually one recorded case of a ghost killing a human...they made a movie about it "An American Haunting" (which im sure a lot of you have seen)...theres also a book ...Tells of a ghost killing a man in the early 1800's ..heres a quick link I found about the movie....

http://www.bestprices.com/cgi-bin/vlink/01...tml?id=f6pNwBGp
virusdeath0
I doubt that was a ghost. The Bell Witch isn't a witch either. They think it was a demon summoned by the witch. Look in the history of the Bell Witch. And that wouldn't be the only case. If Poltergists can zoom things around rooms they could easly kill someone with an object. Look at this tv show on google video's that event came close. And wat is it that moves the onjects for ghosts if they move through things.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5406487197364769612

http://googtube.blogspot.com/2006/08/polte...st-footage.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wCSkSunmCI&NR
Lonecat
QUOTE(virusdeath0 @ Oct 22 2006, 03:53 AM) [snapback]1399698[/snapback]

I just thought of something about Aura. The atmosphere around ur body can be found on all living things. When u meet someone or be around someone u may feel calm and relaxed because they have such a calm atmosphere they bring with. Just like some people can brighten a room on entry (not really. So don't question that). Some people on experience with a ghost they feel depressed or cold because the atmosphere they give of. You can find Aura on ghosts. But if ghost are dead. And aura shows on all living things or things able to be killed or destoryed. Does that mean there is a phyical way of killing a ghost? huh.gif


Why is it that humans, on this side, have this horrid tendency to think first about killing things before finding out more about them? I don't mean you, personally, virusdeath0; in spite of your nom de plume. You may have had something quite different in mind. It reminds me of the time I was up in the Pyrenees mountains munching a sandwich together with my team-leader Jesús, when I nudged him gently, and cautiously indicated with my sandwich that there was a magnificent Golden eagle perched on a branch only about four armslengths away, eyeing either our sandwiches or us. As soon Jesús saw it he said" Oh! If only I had my rifle with me!" I never drew his attention to observed wildlife again in spite of his affable personality.
It seems to me that nearly everybody on Earth has the "shoot first and ask questions afterwards" mentality. By its very nature a ghost cannot be "killed" as it consists of pure energy and energy is indestructible though transformable. A ghost can be persuaded to leave or at least not to betray its presence. I hope you one day see a beautiful thing like an eagle in complete freedom, close up, and that you have your camera with you. Lonecat thumbsup.gif
Hypathia
I was born and raised in Tennesse and grew up hearing about the Bell Witch. Me and my cousins used to scare each other to death with that story.


I think a demon is just an evil ghost; there's extremely evil people so I doubt one's personality is gonna do a 180 once they die.


On auras -- My daughter-in-law's mother has always been able to see colored aura's around people. She thought everyone could and that it was no big deal. When she got older she figured out that she's unique for being able to see them.
Bebi
Hmmm, this is a tricky one. As there is no "correct" answer due to different people's beliefs all I can do is write about what I believe.

I'd like to say that not all ghosts/spirits have a negative atmosphere. I think that a lot of the time people can be more afraid of spirits than is needed due to all the horror stories you hear. When I was very little I saw a spirit and wasn't afraid at all, just curious. When I was a teen I saw my second, and because my sister was with me and freaked out I caught her fear and ran too. Looking back both these spirits were completely benign and made no move at all to interact. However, a house I used to live in had a malicious spirit, and the negative feelings forced my husband and I to move. Yet I have also had experience of spirits who are, if not friendly, then peaceful; I've felt a sense of ease and restfulness around them.

I believe that auras are energy. Energy doesn't necessarily have to be connected to living things, have you ever felt the energy of somewhere like Stonehenge for instance? I'm sure that some of the skeptics out there will have plenty to say on this subject, but I do feel that energy resides in everything around us, living or not. Take the work of Einstein for instance, he has shown us that what we perceive as hard matter is actually empty space with a pattern of energy running through it.

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Albert Einstein developed a theory about the relationship of mass and energy. The formula, E=mc[2], is probably the most famous outcome from Einstein's special theory of relativity. The formula says energy (E) equals mass (m) times the speed of light © squared. In essence, it means mass is just one form of energy
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Lady_Anvilabeel
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But if ghost are dead. And aura shows on all living things or things able to be killed or destoryed. Does that mean there is a phyical way of killing a ghost?



Are you talking about a ghost or a spirit?

A ghost is nothing more than a residual energy imprint/replay from the past. That's not to say that it can't be sensed or felt all the same. Residual energy can contain a wealth of information to an empath or medium. Often it's connected to a highly emotive or traumatic event before death, somehow it becomes recorded in the atmosphere. So yes the energy can go on regardless or in the right conditions become apparant to us.

If your talking about spirits, then spirit energy is the essence and sig of someone, like our aura or energy field. Physically we can be killed, but spiritually? that is a tough question. I don't think it's possible to destroy a spirit as it's energy. But it's possible for mediums to move spirits on or back to the spirit world if need be ( spirit rescue/cleansing )

Exorcisms only really matter I guess if you believe in possession. I don't but lots of people do, so I will respect that. Personally I think exorcisms work on an intense psychological level. I guess it could then be called a cleansing/healing of somesort.

I think it does have it's place though as it's so tied up with belief and culture. But the cynical side of me sees it as laststraw 'counteractive therpy' to deal the ugly side of the bible tongue.gif Religion/belief afterall can be the most powerful thing or part of a person.












Lady_Anvilabeel
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Energy doesn't necessarily have to be connected to living things, have you ever felt the energy of somewhere like Stonehenge for instance?



That's a good point, metal, stone, rocks, wood, water everything contains energy.
Aztec Warrior
QUOTE(virusdeath0 @ Oct 21 2006, 10:53 PM) [snapback]1399698[/snapback]

And aura shows on all living things or things able to be killed or destoryed. Does that mean there is a phyical way of killing a ghost? huh.gif


A couple of points. How do you know that Aura's surround ghosts, or spirits for that matter?
That is hard to prove.

But for now, let's say they do. How do you know Aura's surround all living things, and not dead or inanimate objects as well?

How does one kill that which is already dead?
Accident
why cant we live in harmony with ghosts and spirits....
demons on the other hand, they are the "minions" of the devil/satan/lucifer
which we should kill them (or get rid of them ) before they kill someone
Aztec Warrior
QUOTE(Accident @ Oct 22 2006, 11:59 AM) [snapback]1400066[/snapback]

why cant we live in harmony with ghosts and spirits....
demons on the other hand, they are the "minions" of the devil/satan/lucifer
which we should kill them (or get rid of them ) before they kill someone



I guess I missed that day in class, but exactly how does one "kill" a demon?
Leonardo
Anvil,

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Are you talking about a ghost or a spirit?

A ghost is nothing more than a residual energy imprint/replay from the past. That's not to say that it can't be sensed or felt all the same. Residual energy can contain a wealth of information to an empath or medium. Often it's connected to a highly emotive or traumatic event before death, somehow it becomes recorded in the atmosphere. So yes the energy can go on regardless or in the right conditions become apparant to us.

If your talking about spirits, then spirit energy is the essence and sig of someone, like our aura or energy field. Physically we can be killed, but spiritually? that is a tough question. I don't think it's possible to destroy a spirit as it's energy. But it's possible for mediums to move spirits on or back to the spirit world if need be ( spirit rescue/cleansing )


In your opinion then a ghost is like a recording? Would it be possible then to erase that recording? Is that essentially what happens if a ghost disappears (has any ghost ever disappeared?) Similarly with spirits. If they are energy perhaps that energy can be transformed (like electricity can be transformed to heat)?

I don't think I've ever seen a ghost or spirit, although I do believe I saw an aura once. I wouldn't necessarily think about destroying a ghost or spirit if I saw one (unless it was trying to kill me sad.gif ) but I'm wondering if that is what 'evil' spirits do - use the energy of others.

As for the original question from virusdeath0. If I understand you correctly then a ghost cannot be dead as it was never alive. It is a recording.

dontgetit.gif Help would be appreciated.
Jsilvestro
QUOTE(virusdeath0 @ Oct 22 2006, 06:21 AM) [snapback]1399810[/snapback]

I doubt that was a ghost. The Bell Witch isn't a witch either. They think it was a demon summoned by the witch. Look in the history of the Bell Witch. And that wouldn't be the only case. If Poltergists can zoom things around rooms they could easly kill someone with an object. Look at this tv show on google video's that event came close. And wat is it that moves the onjects for ghosts if they move through things.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5406487197364769612

http://googtube.blogspot.com/2006/08/polte...st-footage.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wCSkSunmCI&NR


Ghost are "ghost" that's why they are "dead" you can't kill the dead you can send them to what other side they may need to go to. I have been told that a "poltergist" is often something the person creates within their own mind. As far as the bell witch--
I think Tennessee is the only state that has ever acknowledged a "ghost" as being real. The movie though needs a lot of help.....



Lady_Anvilabeel
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In your opinion then a ghost is like a recording? Would it be possible then to erase that recording? Is that essentially what happens if a ghost disappears (has any ghost ever disappeared?)


Good question.... I think it's possible to cleanse the energy, so yeah that would erase it. Residual energy may hold more than just a visual, it may hold the emotion as well or just the emotion on it's own. And if it's terribly negitive and strong enough to affect people then it's best to cleanse it.

The right conditions plays a large key to it. Some ghosts seem to appear more frequantly than others, some seem to coincide with special dates and others are just random but repeative acts. If we can figure out how exactly the conditions work then it will help to understand this further and make recording evidence easier.

virusdeath0
God this topic is blooming faster then I can keep up. I know that ghosts are dead but everything can be destroyed so why ghosts any exeption. I may be wrong but I like to hear other peoples thoughts.

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I have been told that a "poltergist" is often something the person creates within their own mind


There have been cases of children. Trubled children who loss control of their mind which causes objects to move. Poltergists aren't just dead ghosts but living people. Poltergist means nosie spirit. If humans have spirits then they could do it to without control.
coldethyl
Is aura and atmosphere the same thing now? huh.gif
Bebi
No, but I do believe that the atmosphere in a room can be affected when you unconciously sense someone's aura. For instance I'm sure many of us have been in a situation where somebody entering the room can make everyone feel uncomfortable without quite knowing why.
poisondwarf
I think some ghosts can disappear, have their recording erased, its like they fade over time. Maybe some cease to be seen anymore as their recording somehow gets damaged and is no longer able to be played if the conditions were right
coldethyl
The atmosphere in a room changing due to someone's aura makes a bit more sense to me.

I don't know if it's aura or just energy, but I know people who can clear a room.
crouton
QUOTE(coldethyl @ Oct 23 2006, 01:10 PM) [snapback]1401455[/snapback]

The atmosphere in a room changing due to someone's aura makes a bit more sense to me.

I don't know if it's aura or just energy, but I know people who can clear a room.



I've known dogs that can clear a room.
coldethyl
QUOTE(crouton @ Oct 23 2006, 03:14 PM) [snapback]1401459[/snapback]

I've know dogs that can clear a room.


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Yep my dog can when we change his dog food.

Shew-wee.
Episteme
I was wondering when gas was going to come into play in this thread.... laugh.gif My bearded dragon (lizard) just cleared out this room - how such a little thing can make such a big... crying.gif

My grandparents lived in this house that had a room with a horrible atmosphere, though I never personally attributed it to ghosts. I went back there with my sister once so she could breast feed when there was alot of company over. We actually got up and went to another room after a couple of minutes because it was so unnerving. However two of my sisters claimed to see a strange cat in the house running into that room. They chased the cat into the room and it was never seen in the house again. *whistles the twilight zone theme*
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