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Ethan Cole
dragons......... if they are still here and if they were ever here, were are they now? any one have any thoughts? and have you ever sean photo's of dragon sighting's?
KCalypso
QUOTE(Ethan Cole @ Oct 30 2006, 10:33 PM) [snapback]1410897[/snapback]

dragons......... if they are still here and if they were ever here, were are they now? any one have any thoughts? and have you ever sean photo's of dragon sighting's?


From my recent experience in this forum (two days) talking bout dragons will get you some HUGE posts and arguments lol. Chek out my "dragons and dinosaurs" topic and you'll see what I mean
DieChecker
The only way Dragons could still be around would be if they were very intelligent and had some kind of abilty to hide. Perhaps chamelon like abilities. Otherwise planes, satelites and radar would be turning them up all the time. People have found weird flying cars on Google Earth for crying out loud. How hard would it be to see a ten meter scaled creature? They would have to live in the total out of the way places.

Another option would be for them to be small. A small flying reptile should be possible. Probably not very bright however.
the Shadamaun
Yeah, KCalypso is right; you are opening Pandora's Box with this one. blush.gif Try checking out one of the many other dragon related threads to see what has been said so far. Here's a hint:

Aliens

Angels

Psychic powers

Church conspiracies

Biblical allusions

Spaceships

How are these things all related? Like it or not, youre gonna find out... rolleyes.gif
sadistic jellyfish of doom
QUOTE(Ethan Cole @ Oct 30 2006, 10:33 PM) [snapback]1410897[/snapback]

dragons......... if they are still here and if they were ever here, were are they now? any one have any thoughts? and have you ever sean photo's of dragon sighting's?

Ethan Cole, eh? I see you like Area 51.
TheBoss
We kind of do have dragons. If you consider the komodo dragon a dragon.
[ Or just a big monitor lizard ] I wouldn't out rule the possibility of REAL dragons. happy.gif
capoeiranger
Well...they didn't disappear! They never exist so they can't disappear!
coldethyl
QUOTE(capoeiranger @ Oct 31 2006, 04:33 PM) [snapback]1411945[/snapback]

Well...they didn't disappear! They never exist so they can't disappear!


Unless they have a REALLY BIG cloak of invisibility.
the Shadamaun
They just all take turns sharing the One Ring, precious.
REBEL
They became extinct thousands if not millions of years ago, their souls drifting off to the Draconian star system, and have returned as Shapeshifting Reptoids at Windsor Castle.

[attachmentid=29215]-I'm guess'n Charles, note the extra large ears. blink.gif
capoeiranger
Aren't any of you watch movie? draco is the last dragon and he got to be killed to stop the evil young king from his dreadful reign...

Don't believe me? Go ask Sir Sean Connery!
Samael
Yes, I have seen several 'photos' of 'dragons.' I think that dragons don't exist and never did. I won't say 'never will' because we don't really know what crazy designs the conveyor belt we call evolution will churn out in the far distant future. Though I've read a book called After Man - A Zoology of the Future which guesses as to the causes of humankind's eventual extinction, and what animals will be like 50 million years after the Age of Man. It's really interesting. (BUY IT. BUYITBUYITBUYIT!)

QUOTE(the Shadamaun @ Oct 31 2006, 02:02 PM) [snapback]1411206[/snapback]

Yeah, KCalypso is right; you are opening Pandora's Box with this one. blush.gif Try checking out one of the many other dragon related threads to see what has been said so far. Here's a hint:

Aliens

Angels

Psychic powers

Church conspiracies

Biblical allusions

Spaceships

How are these things all related? Like it or not, youre gonna find out... rolleyes.gif


Well that's simple: angels flew into outer space, found aliens in spaceships and brought them to Earth, which is alluded to in the Bible. The Church were worried and used their psychic powers to control dragons which went to war with the aliens. Both races wiped each other out.
REBEL
QUOTE(capoeiranger @ Nov 4 2006, 10:40 PM) [snapback]1415006[/snapback]

Aren't any of you watch movie? draco is the last dragon and he got to be killed to stop the evil young king from his dreadful reign...

Don't believe me? Go ask Sir Sean Connery!


It was called ''Dragon Heart'',.....good movie. thumbsup.gif

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draconic chronicler
QUOTE(REBEL @ Nov 5 2006, 02:22 AM) [snapback]1415388[/snapback]

It was called ''Dragon Heart'',.....good movie. thumbsup.gif

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Actually it was a very, very stupid movie. Would the intelligent Draco make friends with the man who savagely butchered the last remaining members of his species including his mate? This was as dumb as a "buddy movie" in which Simon Wiesental and Josef Mengele give up past differences and go on adventures together.

And depicting dragons as large as the Draco character, how can people be so stupid to imagine "a puny human with a sword", could possibly kill such a creature. Simple physics would show that a man would not have the strength to even cut through the ceratin scales of such a large reptile. And could a person even get that close to to a fifty foot inpenetrable monster, with huge taloned arms that can outreach any sword, not to mention flying ability, and a fiery breath that could roast anything within 100 feet.

The only reason medieval people believed St. George slayed a dragon (presumeably with the help of God to boot), is because if you ever look at the historical paintings and sculptures, the dragon is no bigger than a large goat! But even this was considered a fantastic feat because even a goat sized dragon was regarded as a terrible, fearsome creature.

The dragons "grew" larger and larger in the dragon slaying legends, as people became stupider and stupider in their knowledge of real medieval weapon capabilities. And this was compounded by the modern acceptance of "superheroes" with incredible strength.

No human, probably not even an army of humans with medieval technology could have defeated a "dragon" the size. intelligence and power of the dragons depiected in that retarded movie. Such creatures, if they existed, and were not controlled by a higher authority (as the original version of Judao Christian theology attests they were), would rule the world, and mankind would have been eaten into extinction thousands of years ago, unless the dragons wanted to keep them around to make cool golden trinkets for them to collect, and being soft and pink and without horns or claws, they would make the perfect "dragon food" if allowed to multiply.

As for "where have the dragons gone", ancient Christian theology states they reside in a place called "Heaven" until sent to punish the unrighteous, if any of that is true. Supposedly they will destroy one third of the world population if the Apocolypse actually occurs. Now they are called fire breathing horses, with sharp teeth and snake tails, but in the original text they are simply referrred to as "dragons".
capoeiranger
QUOTE(draconic chronicler @ Nov 5 2006, 06:43 PM) [snapback]1415492[/snapback]

Actually it was a very, very stupid movie. Would the intelligent Draco make friends with the man who savagely butchered the last remaining members of his species including his mate? This was as dumb as a "buddy movie" in which Simon Wiesental and Josef Mengele give up past differences and go on adventures together.


Woah...no offense, but after watching the movie, instead of learning about Draco's intelligence, I learned something bigger from Draco. It's his WISDOM. Draco was portrayed as a wise dragon. Not only intelligent and powerful. Actually, on the movie, Draco taught the main human character how to kill (or at least to attempt to kill) a dragon, by using ballista. The dragon slayer was not only armed with a puny sword, he was also fully equipped, until the wisest and smartest dragon of them all, Draco, overwhelmed him.

Here we can say that the dragon slayer was well equipped for regular dragons, but not for Draco.

Hey! Why do we argue about movie anyway?

Well, as a regular Asian, we were taught that dragon exist in heaven and guard our planet. And when the humanity is in great need, they will come down and help us. This is mostly portrayed by the Chinese Sheng Long which was believed as the carrier of the raincloud. However, in Javanese mythology, the local dragons, the Nagas were the great being that dwells on mountain, cave or sea and they will guide someone seeking knowledge and anyone is lucky enough to be guided by the Naga will be rewarded with great powers.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
I watch movies for fun. Not to find out facts about supposed dragons.
REBEL
Amen to that
This whole thread is to determine fantasy from fact not the other way around.

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capoeiranger
I know that...that's why I stop talking about movies. About dragons' existence? True mythical dragons remain mythical...never actually exist to me.
REBEL
QUOTE(capoeiranger @ Nov 6 2006, 06:26 AM) [snapback]1416008[/snapback]

I know that...that's why I stop talking about movies. About dragons' existence? True mythical dragons remain mythical...never actually exist to me.

Then why were they worshipped so friggin much in the past, and why when you look around the world at most of the oldest and biggest buildings even churches of today especially in Europe,have dragons and reptillian entities adornig these buildings? mighty strange. disgust.gif

Give me a logical answer to that,....i'll let my pet snake 'Leroy' go free. wink2.gif

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ythompson86
QUOTE(KCalypso @ Oct 31 2006, 01:09 AM) [snapback]1410923[/snapback]

From my recent experience in this forum (two days) talking bout dragons will get you some HUGE posts and arguments lol. Chek out my "dragons and dinosaurs" topic and you'll see what I mean


I'm going to check out your "dragons and disonaurs" topic. I have thought for some time that dragons did exist, but they became extinct. I'm not a deeply religious person, but I do believe in God and the teachings of the bible. In Genesis, the bible states that God created living creatures and then man to rule over them. It is nowhere stated that some of those animals died and then God created man. I think that what people have described as "dragons" were actually dinosaurs and that man and dinosaurs had to have co-existed at some time. I also think that one day scientists will discover that mankind has been around a lot longer than what is believed to be true at this time.
Urisk
QUOTE(ericraven2003 @ Nov 5 2006, 08:15 PM) [snapback]1415968[/snapback]

I watch movies for fun. Not to find out facts about supposed dragons.



Too true. As I remember there's a whole 32 pages dedicated to zombies... Movies shouldn't be taken seriously. ESPECIALLY Braveheart! As good as it is, it's about as accurate as an Imperial Stormtrooper with cateracts.
coldethyl
Okay this:

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is scaring me.
draconic chronicler
QUOTE(ythompson86 @ Nov 8 2006, 12:09 PM) [snapback]1419258[/snapback]

I'm going to check out your "dragons and disonaurs" topic. I have thought for some time that dragons did exist, but they became extinct. I'm not a deeply religious person, but I do believe in God and the teachings of the bible. In Genesis, the bible states that God created living creatures and then man to rule over them. It is nowhere stated that some of those animals died and then God created man. I think that what people have described as "dragons" were actually dinosaurs and that man and dinosaurs had to have co-existed at some time. I also think that one day scientists will discover that mankind has been around a lot longer than what is believed to be true at this time.

If you believe the Bible is true, dragons sing praises to God in psalms, and God rides on the back of a huge, dragon-like "Cherub" in both II Samual and Psalms. The word Seraphim was translated to Dracones by both the ancient Jews and Christians. The bible is very clear that dragons are intelligent creatures that are heavenly servants. It doesn't sound like walnut brained dinosarus to me. Welcome to the real Bible they didn't tell you about in Sunday School. And guess what, these same intelligent dragons appear in almost every world culture.
ythompson86
Hey, I'm just a simple social worker from Mississippi, not a learned scholar of mythical, religious, or scientific teachings, but isn't it possible that the brains of dinosaurs could have been larger than what is widely believed today? My "dinosaurs were dragons theory" is just that by the way, a theory. blush.gif
draconic chronicler
QUOTE(ythompson86 @ Nov 9 2006, 12:14 PM) [snapback]1420778[/snapback]

Hey, I'm just a simple social worker from Mississippi, not a learned scholar of mythical, religious, or scientific teachings, but isn't it possible that the brains of dinosaurs could have been larger than what is widely believed today? My "dinosaurs were dragons theory" is just that by the way, a theory. blush.gif


Actually no, CT scans of dino skulls prove they were very small brained. It is highly unlikely they would be capable of making deals with villages to leave them alone if they provided virgin sacrifices.

But this is not to say, if we are to accept the existence of God, that dragons and dinosaurs, or ptersosaur do not have a common ancestry, just as humans clearly have a common ancestry with smaller brained primates. Both dragons and men may be divinely improved versions of simpler reptiles and mammal that would never have naturally evolved to their current states of development.
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