I am new here.... and me and my friend are trying to do some telekinesis and psi balls... but we don't know exactly where to begin... we read some of the pages here and.... for the telekinesis we got a compass and were going to try spinning it... but with no luck so far.... and for the psi balls... we really don't know what or how things are supposed to feel to know if your doing it or not..... we really want to be able to do these things.. but don't know .....

Me and my friend have had strange things happen to each other... I can do some odd things.. and he can see some odd things with his eyes.... and we were just trying to add something new to our so to say bag of tricks.... I believe that these things can be done... because I have done things like this in the past.. but never for long and was never able to repeat it... but have not tried in a long time..... my friend would like to do it... but don't know if he really believes that he could.....

any help is appreciated

Aaron

First welcome! enyoj your time here.
first a couple of questions to you:
1) have you done reasearch on i.e google?
it's always good to know how much you know about the subject.

How psi-balls feel varies everything from cold, heat, pressure between your hands you can feel.

2) how long have you practiced tk?
it may take several months to learn, it varies from person to person.
everyone can do it, it's just practice and practice oh and did i mention practice?

"to se strange things= calirvojance"

Thank you. I have looked up different pages and for telekinesis I found this page: http://www.telekinesisnow.com/report.html?code=S01 but don't know if anyone has tried this guys method.. I have not bought his "book" or anything... just wondered if anyone else has.... but anyother page I have looked up mostly says to meditate, and focus... clear the mind... and don't really concentrate on it moving or something.... just kind of will it to move...


well if I do get a feeling like that.. can I then open and push my hands in a direction and see the ball or knock something over? and how long does it take to make a ball ususally?


well years ago I practiced it a lot.. but did not know about this site.. nor as much info as I know now.... but as for right now I have only practiced for like a day or two.... I guess my question is do you really have to litterally be thinking of nothing... or what... and how do you "meditate" or whatever to be able to move something? and how you say it takes months... the other site I mentioned above says that.. supposedly someone can learn to do it in minutes.. is this true?

Aaron

Also I have to ask... when ever I can get telekinesis to work I always wanted to test this..... can someone get a glass with water in.... and lift the water out of the glass and make shapes with it in the air???? I did not know if anyone had done this before.... or tried....

Aaron

If you got that good at telekinesis, then in theory, you could. But I've never heard of anyone that good.

As for psiballs and telekinesis help, check out my site. There's 3 psiball articles and a telekinesis article.

Good luck.

Thanks Kazuma.. I actually have seen your site.... and when my friend and I tested different things last night... we were able to make some psi balls.... welll my friend was making a lot of them.... I only made one feeling of the repelling magnets..... he had a lot...

We tested this at night in a room with the doors closed, and the lights off.... there was almost no light, and pretty much no sound....except for the slightly ticking clock..... so it was pretty good.... I got the magnetic feeling while sitting up.. and having my hands flat palms facing each other... and doing the circular motion.... it was pretty cool.....

My friend on the other hand... was laying down on his bed... and he had his hands in the shape of holding a ball... and he built up quite a good amount of energy... he also tested the way I held my hands.... throughout the night.... he was able to make a high amount of energy quickly.. so that he could not really move his hands... he even was able to make it with the light on and us both talking...

Now my friend could not make the energy high enough for me to see it... but how in my first post... I said he could see things... well he could see the energy in his hands... even when it was building up.... the first time he had a good amount of energy he opened his eyes and he could see a lot of light.... I could not... because it did not have that much energy but he could see it..... it is cool that he can see the energy.... he can even see the energy in the air and room..... and normally it is not a lot... but since we were testing things.. the energy in the room was a lot more... so he saw a lot more white dots...

Has anyone else met anyone who could see the energy????

But still we did get something of a psi ball... so we will be testing it more later today, and tonight again.. to see how good we can get.... for as much as we got in one night... I expect him to be able to make a visible one soon.....

Aaron

There have been many(?) topics about seeing these "dots" and yes I can se such dots
although both black and white.

you don't have to meditate before doing tk, although for some it will/can give better results.


If you can shield(?) it and program it, that could be possible then yes.


It varies from person to person. And with experience it can " go faster"


There are many ways to meditate, I like (mostly) to sit in a quiet place and "clear my mind"(does that make sense?)
Please keep in mind that you don't have to meditate to do tk.


Some can others can not (do it that fast)


Again this varies.



I am not even sure if you can se it, without "flaring" (spelling?)

Thanks again Eu_Citzen yeah he can see both black and white dots.. it all depends.... he usually sees both..... kind of like a picture made up just of noise... also me and my friend have tested his eyes at doing other things... and he can look at a light and split the spectrum of colors and see a rainbow.... he can look at an object with one eye and be able to split it in two (like crossing your eyes on an object with both eyes normally).... and with using both eyes he can split an object 4 to 8 times..... he also has sometimes been able to zoom in on an object.... and he can like strecth and squash objects that he is looking at or rearrange there order... but not literally in reality....just from his perception.... and he was able to see vast amounts of color in the dark.... can you do all of these things as well???

also is there a way that I can be.."trained" or something so that I can see these dots as well???

for when we were testing it last night we did not meditate... we just tried focusing on moving our energy to our fingertips or hands.... and it does make sense about sitting and clearing the mind... I have done things like that before....

As for "programming" it....... well I still have to play with making it easier.... and when my friend made one... I moved my hand inbetween his hands.. and could not feel anything... am I supposed to?? he could feel it and had the repelling magnets....

As for the "flareing" I thought that to flare or make it visible.. it was just adding a LOT of energy into the ball.?.? and does it have to be in a ball for you to be able to see it??? or can it be in any shape??


Aaron

Cigam, have you tried feeling your own energy? Like, your aura. I don't mean the magnetic circular technique, but tuning into your own body, and being one with your directions/'will'? There is always energy externally and internally, flowing around and inside you.
When you meditate, you feel your breath coming in and out of your body, yes? Just take a moment and feel your body accept the oxygen that you have breathed inside of you. The air that you've inhaled is energy, and your body is composed of energy. Once you feel that energy that keeps you together and alive, connect to it, and then cup your hands. Then, when you exhale your breath, hold the thought and feeling of your energy, and then "will"/direct it into your hands like water filling a cup. You should be able to feel some type of tingling and warmth in your hands. After, you can discard the energy by giving it to some plants or absorbing it back into your hands. Then after, I'd advise sheilding yourself. Hope this will help.

I am not sure are these "object" close when he does split them?
If the light is intense enough I will to se "a rainbows" colors.


I don't know if you can, maybe.
look after "clairvoyance" on google.
I have had it as long as I can remember.


I am not sure how "sensitive" you are, so I don't know.
But try to feel above and under his hands.(it works for me when I want someone to feel it)


It can be in any shape.


Eh? what? do you mean that it looks like "waves" through the air?

You mean like seeing green in the dark?(green was just an example)
If so yes.


If I remember right flaring is when you do a psiball and take a picture of it in a pitch black room, and then "work" with it on i.e photoshop. look at psipog.net I think they have more info on flaring there.

You're wrong, sorry. Flaring is making them visible to the naked eye. Also, flaring is very very very hard to do, and I highly doubt beginners can flare them.

You're supposed to feel whatever he is feeling, but feeling the "magnets" is kind of hard to do, so don't let it worry you, just practice on making your own like that.

As for flaring, it IS just adding a lot of energy. It can be any shape.

There are many guides on psi balls i think [url] psipog.net [/url] has a very detailed one as for how it feels its different for every person and every ball may feel different depending how you feel mine seem to be more hot when im angry and cooler when im relaxed but trust me when you make one youll know it

well

araezel: I have not tried... I will have to try....

eu_citzen: the objects are either close or far... he can split either... I think he has lately been doing it on close... but believe he has done it on far as well.... // the white and black dot noise.. I mean is..... like white and black dots... in a... hmm... well... like dots in random places... but that fill a whole room.... if that makes sense.... /// for the color... the room he sleeps in has a lot of different color... there are reds greens whites blues browns golds coppers.. and a lot of colors.. and he can look at an object and see the color of the object... kind of like seeing it with a light on... but not nearly as clear... but something like that... he can see the room kind of light.. to be able to distinguish colors..

and thank you all.... I will have to try more... I will keep you updated....

also can I take a picture of a non flared psi ball... or the magnet psi's? I may try later on and see if I can....

Aaron

Wow, you guys are funny. Sitting in the dark with your hands cupped and stuff, claiming to "feel" something.

Good work, I'm sure one day you will all be mighty sorcerers or something and completely change everything mankind knows about physics.
[/sarcasm]

If you can shield(?) it and program it, that could be possible then yes.


How do you sheild? Is it easy or does it take a lot of practice?

So you mean he can "split" both close and near?
The dot's are kind of "floating/hovering" around almost everywhere?


Maybe the aura?


Look it up at psipog.net
as for how long you will need varies.

Umm, I'm kinda nervous to say this but I have this kinda ablility that I can do.
Its kinda like predicting, I usualy use it when watching tv. Like, if theres an episode of a show I havent seen in a long time or I just want to watch something, I can think of it and it will show that same day, or the next. Kinda usefull though. I've had ever since I was a little kid. I have more abilities, but I'm not ready to talk.

Oh, thanks for correcting me.
psipog link to flaring



Most probably Precognition.

Oh, thank you. I watched something about precognition on I think Science channel.

No problem and welcome to UM.

sorry it has been a while since I have gotten on... I could not get to the forum.....

Well first... my friend and I have not been able to get as good of repullsion or balls... are best time of making them was that first night we tried.... but we are still practiceing...

as for the splitting and stuff.... when he looks at an object... I think mostly close... he can see an exact copy of that object either to the left or right of the real thing... it is like seeing double or triple of an object... I don't know how else to describe it.. but I think he can mostly, only, do it on close objects... just because they are easy to distinguish...

the dots... are kind of everywhere and kind of float or hover... because they fill the room... they are usually faint, but he can see them.... now on a different note of the dots... when we were testing his eyes... at times he could see like silouettes (if I spelt that right) of shapes in the room... that would move around like ghosts.... either slow or fast... and when I would touch them or walk through them... my whole body and especially my head had tingles/goosbumps all over... so I was wondering if anyone knew what these "beings" that he sees are???? but the funny thing is... that ever since we started testing the psi balls.. he has not seen any "beings" of any kind.... just the white and black dots... and thats it...

now for his eyes seeing color... what is an/the aura??

we have still been practicing to make even the repelling magnets... but have not been able to get that again... now we can get something of like our hands in mud/sand... where you can feel some repullsion... but nothing nearly as strong as the first time... where we litteraly could not put our hands together...... any advice.?. or just keep practiceing?

Aaron

I think that has to do with your eye nothing paranormal.
(if it's close)



Your descriptions fits to what I se to.
But don't know what it is.
Mine are NOT moving, if I don't want them to..


It's a "kind" of "field" that goes around all kinds of objects. Mostly seen in different colors with "layers" (each layer has a different color)
If I am wrong correct me.
that was a simple explanation, it can be made more advanced to.


Do research, ask if you don't understand and of course practice.
Do not always use the same kind of practice or it will (mostly) get boring.

it probably is something to do with the eye... but I just found it odd that he could split an object like 4 to 8 times.... and can even split me into 2 with just one eye.... I have no idea how he can do that... I can only split somthing by crossing my eyes...

also can you make those "beings" appear... meaning if you don't see any in the room, can you imagine they are there... and they actually be there?

as for the aura thing.... I am not sure... he can see shape, accurate color to what the real object is, and finite detail... so I don't think it is an aura.. but might be..... I honestly don't know... EDIT: Also I went back and looked up more on the auric sight and from the description... that is pretty much how he has described it to me before....

yeah I have found some other things to try.... I just am surprised that we got it that one night and neither my friend nor I can get it nearly as strong since then..... we are doing the same things we did that first night, but the result is far weaker... but we will keep trying different things and see what we come up with..

Thanks

Aaron

now.... once I actually get good at psi balls.... I thought I would then be able to do telekinesis, but what about pyrokinesis, and astral projection? do all of these relate to controlling your psi energy??

I always wanted to astral project myself... so wondered if just getting good at controlling my psi /psi balls is all I need to do to be able to do that... am I right?? or how do you astral project.. and can people see and hear you... and can you hear them, and interact with them... or am I asking for to much??

Aaron

Please leave if you have nothing useful to say. Thank you.

No, psiballs are completely seperate from telekinesis and all the other -kinesises. You don't need to be able to manipulate energy in order to do anything else. It would probably help, though.

People can't see/hear you while you astral project, but some may be able to sense you and "feel" like you're there.

You can hear them, but interaction is rather limited.

I think you are asking a bit too much.

May I ask what kind of "energy" you are talking about?

You mean the dots?
I always se the dots.

no I mean can you make the sillouette figures.... my friend always sees the dots... but only occasionally sees these figures that move around.. and he sees them as solid black sillouettes...

nope, although I have seen human like "shades" moving around, not in a solid color but rather
like a dark bottle..(to describe the color)
(some even hover above ground)

yeah he cannot make them either... he has seen small things like a mouse.. big things like a gorilla, and normal people sized things... he even sees like strings of rope that move around... he sees them like how he can see me... with a haloy edge.... sometimes....

also can you draw things.?.?.?. my friend can also just look out into the darkness with the dots... and can draw shapes like a tank, a teapot, and other stuff... but mostly outlines like the other sillouettes

I mostly se human like shapes, but cat like shapes to.And other "shades" wich I can't identify.
I have not seen any "strings".
except if I want to move enough donts to make one.
draw things? honestly I havent even tried..

yeah my friend had not tried before, but when I asked him to he was able to draw stuff...... I still find it odd though that when I walk through these shapes or beings that he sees that.. I get tingles all over... I don't know what is up with that... except for mabey the beings are like collections of energy or something.... what do you think?

I have no idear what they are or could be. A theori though is that it is a result from clairvojance. They are drawn to you like "magnets", is that what you mean? (the dots)
I se it as they Collect around what ever person in huge amounts. But always keep a distance
to the person. Are the dots big that your friend sees?
Ask your friend to look at them if they move in any pattern.might be "cool"(?).

I don't think the dots are big... they are uaully faint and medium to smallish I think.... and the dots actually do not move... but things in the room, of the sillouettes move... I have no idea why... and they usually do not collect so to say on me... if he sees a silloette of something... I can walk through it and it still be there in the exact shape it was in originially... I just fell tingles... he actually saw one one time that sat near the end of his bed.. person size.. and I walked through it like 5 times and moved my hand in it... and it stayed there, but my head and whole body tingled majorly... it was interesting... but can't really explain it....

so we will have to test it some more when he sees them... but ever since we started practiceing the psi balls, he has not seen any sillouettes.. so have not been able to test them any more.... but it was cool non the less...

Psi.

Psi energy? So it's not really energy. What is it, then?

First off........do not tell anyone to leave if they have nothing good to say.
This forum is for all opinions as I understand it.
I have far more evidence for the existence of santa claus than anyone has of any form of kenesis or psi ball.
I'll show you my video of me as santa in my living room and you show me a video of your kenesis or psi ball.......deal?
Neither are real...but I have more proof of santa....sad really.

well... it is like The Force from Star Wars.... in a sense... but it is like an energy that you can use and feel.. that helps you to be able to do other things....

Also if you two want to debate and haggle about what is real and what is not then do it in a different post.!. not mine.. I want people that can help me with making psi balls or doing telekinesis to post in this one....

hopefully that answers some things....

Thank you,

Aaron

You cannot create energy. Whatever you are talking about is not energy. What do you do with it anyway? Does it give you great powers or something?

It's not yours, sorry.

Mine arent big either.I only (sometimes) have trouble to se the black dots the whites are quite bright (but hte most bright at the evening)


Our imaginational energy.


Yes me to, I told a freind of mine that santa is goinging to be beautiful this year, and he told me that he know that he has beard, maybe he meant that he is santa!?

I know this is not my forum... but it is my topic.. and it is only about pis balls and telekinesis.!. not if santa claus exsists or if psi energy exsists.... so make a new topic if you want to discuss that...

The dots or orbs can be psi energy programmed by the 'entities' that you guys are seeing. The black silhoutted beings can be the entities that more and more people are seeing which they call, "Shadow People." These beings from experience are obviously 'dark' in the sense of who they are and may look to cause trouble for people, especially those who are practicing Psi and what not. So, just be careful. Keep a sheild up, just in case.

Oh, by the way Cigram, did you try the technique I posted? If so, did it work?

I have not done a lot of practiceing lately, but have tried a little... I think it will work... but have to try some more.... I will tell you more, when I can get it to work...

And thanks on the info of the dots and shadow people... I will tell my friend about them...

Aaron

Well I have tried a good bit at just feeling the energy inside of me, and have not been able to "feel" it as in tingles/hot/cold, but I can still get pressure between my hands if I focus.... Also when I got the repelling magnets, my hands were not tingly/hot/cold... I just had the repelling magnets....

Am I doing something wrong? or just keep trying to feel my own energy?

Aaron

It's hard to tell everyone (can) feel it differently.

Bear in mind that there is no proof to support the existance of that kind of energy.

how many kinesisisisis are there i wonder?

i have been able to predict my fcat testing room once last year. i don't recall it happening again though...yet.

i believe it is possible, through mental influence, that extra-sensory phenomina can happen.