I am convienced that Psi ablities in the area of 'observations' are 'easier' as such is in this field - if it has an 'emotional' base to it.

The next test will be posted tonight and will run till this Wed.

The pictures and numbers will have a very person emotional foundation to them.

More information coming.

J -

Sweet, so will I receive my prize in the mail?

When you can pick up a pen/pencil AP/OB and write down your mail adress on a piece of paper here - I will send you $25.00

Otherwise the reward is know that you succeeded in doing the first test. Which again - GB if I had the funds to send you a 'prize'.

I am honestly impressed and my skeptical mind on this focus point - is now a tad less skeptical. :

Again nicely done!!

Jj -

I find that those that believe in this were expressing more doubt and trying to debunk it before it even started.













Ok - so those that stated the above and anyone else:
It was looking like people were not going to believe or accept that this would work. By the first test results, I would suggest that it did work.

Comments??

Jj -

The next test will be posted Monday Morning PST -

It will be based on a Picture and a Date: 00/00/0000.

They will both be very emotionally based picture and date.

More to come....

Jj -

No wonder why I can't visualize the word.

To be honest, you did nothing to invalidate the test.

Oh come on, now. You're being silly here, to be honest.



Oh come on, AGAIN. I'm sure it means a place where the person can't possibly get to physically during the test.



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I think the numbers are more complex... And if they did only 6 numbers, you'd probably say "Why not 7?".



Ok... so what WOULD you accept as proof then? I think you're just shrugging it off...




How in the hell?! An APer can't do something that Astral Projection is not able to do, therefore there IS going to be some tests that "can't be done that way". For instance, you can't test how fast a race car driver can drive a car by making him drive a go-cart.

excellent job Jjbreen & ghostboy83.

on a scale from 1-10 how accurate was he?

Hey Zero -

Did you see the results? Did you see and notice how well Ghostboy did? I personally was impressed with the results of the first test.

Thus the second test that starts tomorrow.

Jj -

I am not sure 3rd what you are asking or stating here?? That was simply the PASSWORD for the first tests ZIP file - so people could open the file and see the pictures of the first test.

Jj -

4 out of 5 - I would say that's good results.

1 - 'right' - that could easily been seen as a "lucky guess".
2 - right makes the "luck guess' REALLY lucky.
3 - moves it out of "Luck".
4 - well. I would say, "What ever you want to call it, that he did. He did it right on."

The TV tray was the odd ball. I honestly didn't expect that to be 'seen' or listed, to be really honest. Not a common item at all for someone to just 'guess on'.

He was obviously 80% right with the Bathroom being the question mark. Since it's not "in" the room but just off the hallway that leads to family room - it's a tough one to call. The "in" is what I had to mark down on.

So I would say - he was at least 80% accurate.

Jj -

Uhh..no, where was it?

No.. I said it CAN be cracked.

See POST 50 - the results are there.

Ghostboy did quite well - 80% correct. 4 out of 5. His observations were not 'generic' either - but specific: Pool Table, Piano, TV Tray and Family/Rec-room.

Jj -

One thing I'm skeptical about. He pointed out all things that were in the picture.. did he point out any that were NOT in the pictures?

I shouldn't accuse him of using a password cracker, but ya never know.... For now, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. I say you PM someone(I wouldn't mind) the information, instead of having a password protected file. The file can be cracked by anyone. Then again, the person you tell may leak information. Just tell someone you trust... But someone we can trust as well..

Oh well, what the hell do I know, I'm a bit drunk right now, lol.

Huh? How could he "point out" anything that was not in the picture?? The picture was taken to validate the submissions of observations. To have something "not" in the picture would raise doubts and questions - Or did I miss what you are saying??



I know that 'cracking' is possible - but I doubt that GB did any of that. What purpose would it serve?

"Look at me! Look what I did - I know how to 'read' pictures from a cracked ZIP file.."

It would be attention based on a lie. Unless someone is seriously desperate for that kind of attention - based on a lie, I doubt they would waist their time on this test. GB simply put doesn't seem that 'desperate' for that kind of attention.

The next test will not have a ZIP file - there will be just one picture attached showing were the 2 objects in question are - (whited out).

Further information coming tomorrow.

Jj -

What do you mean? If he pointed out something that was NOT in the picture, it would BETTER validate that he did NOT crack the file, and was actually using AP.



Well, the main purpose it would serve would be to pretend your an Astral Projector. You could give accurate information about the room without letting anyone know you cracked the file. Then again, if it were not in the picture, we could also assume YOU lied about the object NOT being there if he did claim to see an object. I guess we just need to give him the benefit of the doubt.



EDIT: Have you PMed ghostboy yet? Perhaps he forgot about this topic, or has yet to visit it again. I bet he'd be happy to hear the results.

PS. Ghostboy seems like a nice guy. He doesn't come off as the type of person who'd cheat. But that's just me.

2nd TEST - This test will end on Wednesday: 12:00PM PST


The Next Test:

It has been my theory and has been proven to some extent, that it is easier to focus on and find emotionally based 'targets' then random numbers, generic objects and shapes.

So this test will consist of two pieces of paper 81/2x11.

One has a date on it in 00/00/0000 format. Neither have anything to do with - 9/11, I will post that much right now. The other is a picture, B/W. These are two very emotional events in my life - they could be good or bad.

I am looking for the numbers in the date. I am also looking for what the picture is, be specific as possible. Generic will simply be ignored.

This test will end on Wednesday - 11/08/2006 @ 12:00PM PST

The pictures are located in my family room, from the first test. They are hanging on the brick fireplace wall above the mouth of the fireplace. Again they are 8 1/2 x 11. One is Landscape and the other is portrait. The date on is BOLD black type face. The picture is clear grey scale.

Attached is a picture of the fireplace wall with the two pieces of paper 'whited out' for obvious reasons.

There will be NO ZIP file this time.

Good Luck!

Jj -

Where the Date & Picture are located:

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Hmm, I like this test. A better chance for ghostboy to awe all of us.

So is anyone going to step and try the TEST 2?? Just curious....

Jj -

Ok, one more day for the test - and no takers?

I want to ask this:

I find that those that believe in this were expressing more doubt and trying to debunk it before it even started.













Ok - so those that stated the above and anyone else. It was looking like people were not going to believe or accept that this would work. By the first test results, I would suggest that it did work.

Do the above people have any comments about the results??

Jj -

I'm just surprised that he found your house. It doesn't seem like it would be easy. Did you PM ghostboy? Perhaps he forgot about this topic.

DANG MAN
I used to be a really good APer...
I stopped because I had to work diligently on my website, in school, and in my 4 martial arts...

I'll start practicing some more, and hopefully I will be able to pick it up again.

The Picture: Pickup Truck
The Date: 11/25/2001

Anyone else?

I've decided to keep the test for a couple of more days.
3rd Rock -

No - on date.
No - on Picture. Pickup Trucks are not that emotional to me.

Jj -

What happened to Ghostboy? O_o

Did the CIA get him? Lol.. kidding.

I am not really good at this, but as a freak I'll try

Picture: a freind of yours, out in nature doing something

Date: 11/26/1966

No on the picture
No on the date.


Jj -

Ok -

Remember that I stated:

Both of these are strong emotional events to me. They could be 'good' or 'bad' - but they are NOT neutral events that carry little to no real emotions. These are very strong emotions/memories to me. Very strong.

Try focusing on the "emotions" of the paper. Then see the pictures through the emotions.

Tonight at 7pm and 8pm for 5-10 minutes I'll be down in the room looking at the pictures sharing my emotions of them. I'll also do this on Fri the same time frames.

Jj -

twin towers burning...9/11/2001

No on both

In the orginal post of Test #2 stated that it would have nothing to do with 9/11 - I did this for obvious reasons.

Post # 69:


Jj -

sorry i didnt read the whole thing...was it the columbia crash?

No.

I really cannot give any more information at this point, than what I have already given.

Jj -

It's a picture of your Ex-Wife. She's either divourced you, or died. She has brown hair.


That's just a wild guess. XD


DATE:
05/02/98

Nope on the picture -
My one and only wife of 31 years is alive and well and watching TV down in the Family Room. (The room of the first test.)

The date, no.

Jj -

I PM'd Ghostboy again to see if he was interested in doing Test #2. I will leave it open till I get an answer from him - so anyone that still wants to take a 'crack' at it - GO FOR IT!!

Jj -

I hope it wasn't a lucky guess, and now he wants to high tale it out of here.

Me too - I've sent him a PM and it's not been read yet - so I'm not sure.

But anyone is welcome to try it - the two pieces of paper are still up and a light is on them 24x7. To cover different time zones and making sure they don't see 'black'.

Jj

Yeah, the CIA has a program for this AP stuff. They come in and snatch you w/out your permission if you have this ability, and force you to go live in aphganistan or somewhere to look for Laden.... using AP.

I saw it on the TV. :}

Wow.. i didn't know AP can do so many amazing stuff. I tried once and saw myself sleeping on my bed from the corner of my room. Took me 4 weeks to do it and when i did it.. i scares the s*** outta me ( though i was dead or something). Is it dangerous? I heard my friend said that once the link to your 'soul' or something disconnected. "That's it"

I need to ask if Sleep paralysis is related to Astral Projectile? Anyway good job 'ghostboy', your really amazing, can't wait to get to the equal level as you are

Actually based on some evidence that has been brought to my attention - Ghostboys 'results' have to be qustioned now.

It would very much look like he got the ZIP file and cracked it!

I like to do my best when people do these test to think they would play by the honor rule - but seems that is too much to ask for.

If I should do another test - I have a method that will archive it in such away - that it would take some serious progaming to know how to crack it.

I will decide if another test is worth the time.

BTW: The two pieces of paper.

My Wedding date 03/12/1976
The picture My Grand-daughter (a baby) born 01/06 of this year.

Jj -

What evidence?

At this point I'm not able to state, but I can state - as I am awaiting informatoin but added to what is being 'suspected' - I've written GB 5 PM's and I know that he read them all and did NOT repsond to any of them - He has at this point ignored them comletely - which one has to wonder why he just reads them and would not even bother to say, "to busy right now ..." or something.

Plus with the some 'issues' that I am suppose to be getting - let's just say - serious doubt has been raised. Which I hope all is just a serious and BIG misunderstanding and such. I HOPE!!

Jj -

I have a feeling he got really lucky, and now wants to leave the topic in hopes to keep a few "believers". He's just casting more doubts is all.

Well for what ever the reasons may be - I would agree that to drop out like that was 'not cool'. It would of been better stay and see. One never knows, 4 out 5 was pretty good score!

But yes the drop out created more doubts, a lot more doubts. Several PM of some people that were honestly impressed were hoping to see a little more - even if failed as one put it. "At least they gave it a shot..." another stated, "wtih 4 out of 5, if he got 1 or two right in the next few tests ..." that would of continued to build some much needed and serious crediblity in this.."

So I am thinking of doing another test - that is how we learn.

Jj -

I don't think your soul leaves your body. I think it's just your conscience.

As for the link being broken, it can't be unless you die.

Ok - here is a question:

How does one tell if they are AP -vs- RV -vs- a form of Meditative Precog -vs- Some kind of OBE??

Seriously Asking.

Because some of what I read about AP, I go, but isn't that more along the lines of RV'ing?

So how does one tell the difference??

Astral projection is placing your consciousness into the astral plane. Remote viewing is placing your consciousness into the earth plane, or what is sometimes called an "earth projection". These two planes are different in that they do not share the same vibrations. The astral is "finer" and can include a much broader range of frequencies. Whenever you have finer vibrations, the bandwidth for perception is greater (colors, sounds, entities, etc.)

When you astral project, you may or may not see other life forms, lower astral entities or higher entities. You may also detect radio and television waves. Your vision in the higher planes will include a broader range of light. None of this is the case with remote viewing. When remote viewing, you will see the same range of colors, objects, and frequencies, as you would during normal physical awareness. With astral projection, you may see "astral junk" as this is the emotional plane and form follows thought. The only "overlay" with remote viewing is that sometimes the time dimension overlaps and you will see an object that does not currently exist because it "will" exist in the future. As an example, you may see a building on a field, yet that building does not currently exist, only to find out in a few years time, the building has been built. This instance has been cited several times. This is why remote viewers have to master "time lines".

The one similarity is that time/space is independent for both forms of projection, as it has nothing to do with light and sound which are affected by vibrations. What I mean by this is, during both projections, you are able to transcend time and space.

In some ways, remote viewing is a better way to start the projection of the consciousness than astral projection. This is because you can develop the skill for remote viewing a lot quicker than astral projection. There are different forms of remote viewing as well. Regular remote viewing (viewing while in alpha), extended remote viewing (viewing while in theta) and associative remote viewing (associating objects with targets). Results can be attained with regular remote viewing in as little as several days, while conscious astral projection can take months, years, or not even in this lifetime. My step mother, a very gifted remote viewer, bi-located (projected her consciousness to the target) on her first day of learning remote viewing. I was able to bi-locate to Stonehenge on my second day of my training class. These same results are a lot harder to achieve with astral projection.

Astral projection can be exciting, once achieved, because you can go to the higher planes of the astral, and nothing near the earth's vibrations (as in remote viewing) can come close to this experience.

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About the test... I believe he might have cracked the file. There are programs that easiliy crack passwards and stuff. There is sufficiant evidence to believe this. Really had me excited until I kept on reading through the posts...

The second test was good though. Don't put files over the net, just be trustworthy that you will let someone know the answers you have because anything can be cracked or hacked.