Help - Search - Members - Calendar
Full Version: 'Only 50 years left' for sea fish
Unexplained Mysteries Discussion Forums > News, Media & World Events > Main Front Page News
UM-Bot
user posted image rSubmitted by Hurrikane: There will be virtually nothing left to fish from the seas by the middle of the century if current trends continue, according to a major scientific study. Stocks have collapsed in nearly one-third of sea fisheries, and the rate of decline is accelerating. Writing in the journal Science, the international team of researchers says fishery decline is closely tied to a broader loss of marine biodiversity. But a greater use of protected areas could safeguard existing stocks. "The way we use the oceans is that we hope and assume there will always be another species to exploit after we've completely gone through the last one," said research leader Boris Worm, from Dalhousie University in Canada. "What we're highlighting is there is a finite number of stocks; we have gone through one-third, and we are going to get through the rest," he told the BBC News website.

Steve Palumbi, from Stanford University in California, one of the other scientists on the project, added: "Unless we fundamentally change the way we manage all the ocean species together, as working ecosystems, then this century is the last century of wild seafood."

IPB Image\ View: Full Article | Source: BBC News
furioustiger
Sad but true...food fish farming is the way of the future. the seas need to be protected. thumbsup.gif
Steeler Mania
Eat more Chikin? disgust.gif
Crocodilian
Something to think about....
Its supply and demand, if you want to protect it quit eating seafood.
Personally I catch my own and don't buy it.
Col. Kurtz
More propaganda from the doomsday scientist that dont know crap about crap. 99% of these fools have never set foot on a fishing boat..but yet they know soooo much about it. Take it from me the oceans are not being over fished . I have spent 20 years on fishing boats in Maine i know a little something about it. devil.gif
thebarman
QUOTE(Col. Kurtz @ Nov 7 2006, 10:44 AM) [snapback]1417889[/snapback]

Take it from me the oceans are not being over fished .

Care to submit any evidence to support your claims. Like did you happen to count the fish?
SilverCougar
QUOTE(thebarman @ Nov 7 2006, 05:09 PM) [snapback]1418205[/snapback]

Care to submit any evidence to support your claims. Like did you happen to count the fish?



I bet he doesn't. He's the kind that likes to live in his own little bubble of nothing being seriously wrong, we can keep abusing the earth and nothing will happen, and anyone who says differently is a liberal propagandist.

Though offers *NO* proof of his point aside his own little world view.
Chase Ross
Sadly, Humans need to fish too much.
Col. Kurtz
Because i offer no proof that means i dont know what im talking about ??? Can any of you flatlanders that have never even seen the ocean offer any proof that it is being over fished? Scientist for years have said that cod was over fished and put hardcore restrictions on them.They said it would take 50 years for the stock to come back,,well in 3 years cod has come back full strength iv seen more juvenile fish than i ever had in the last 10 years. The same with lobsters,there is a size limit all the '' shorts'' are thrown back. The same with shrimp..clams..scallops, halibut,flounder. I bet the scientists that came up with this report have never spent more than a few days on a boat. I think they should make these scientist spend a whole year on a ground fishing boat and count every fish that they bring aboard i bet they would change their tune in a matter of weeks. Come up to Maine silver couger i`ll take you and show you exactly what im talking about and give you ALL the proof you crave. I hope you like cold rough weather and dont get sea sick. I`ll meet you at the dock at 4;30am if your up. devil.gif
SilverCougar
QUOTE(Col. Kurtz @ Nov 8 2006, 10:22 AM) [snapback]1418868[/snapback]

Because i offer no proof that means i dont know what im talking about ??? Can any of you flatlanders that have never even seen the ocean offer any proof that it is being over fished? Scientist for years have said that cod was over fished and put hardcore restrictions on them.They said it would take 50 years for the stock to come back,,well in 3 years cod has come back full strength iv seen more juvenile fish than i ever had in the last 10 years. The same with lobsters,there is a size limit all the '' shorts'' are thrown back. The same with shrimp..clams..scallops, halibut,flounder. I bet the scientists that came up with this report have never spent more than a few days on a boat. I think they should make these scientist spend a whole year on a ground fishing boat and count every fish that they bring aboard i bet they would change their tune in a matter of weeks. Come up to Maine silver couger i`ll take you and show you exactly what im talking about and give you ALL the proof you crave. I hope you like cold rough weather and dont get sea sick. I`ll meet you at the dock at 4;30am if your up. devil.gif



Hey skippy, I live in the Seattle area. I happen to see the ocean on a regular basis. wink2.gif And yeah, because you come in making a rather crude blanket statement.. no one is going to take you seriously.

We over fish. Maybe not the US.. but *deffinatly* Japan... and it's not just the over fishing... it's also toxins that end up seeping into our food supply. Alot of the fish don't even make it to spawning season because the toxins either kill them, or mutate them so they can't spawn.(We're having that issue here with the several salmon species. One's encredibly close to extintion because of the over fishing and toxins)

Oh, and I grew up in the Adirondacks... so yeah, I lived in the mountains for 22 years. I am far far from a flatlander. I went to college in Mass in a town that was right on the coast of the Atlantic and a spit throw from Maine. wink2.gif So yeah... been there, done that.. you're little tripe ain't nothing special kiddo. wink2.gif Your proof ain't nuthing either. And before you even try to continue to "teach" me about the ocean.. my husband grew up on a boat sailing from Bellingham WA to New Zealand. His father is also a highly seasond sailor and ocean going boat builder. So I'm exposed to the sea life on a highly regular basis. Like some King Crab to go with your foot?

To edit in... should I mention my time spent along the eastern coast right on down to Florida, and some time I spent in a fishing village that's on the coast of Mexico(To which I am going back to again this year and next)?

What was that about "ass"umeing? GJFN!
Col. Kurtz
Please explaine to me what your husband and grandfather sailing careers has anything to do with commercial fishing? You went to school in Mass,,so what and that qualifys you to be what?Im sure you know exactly how to chart a course or use a depthsounder or radar you probably dont even know what port or starboard are without asking.But anyway im sorry if i offended you i shouldnt have used a '' blanket '' statement like that. We can agree to disagree. i should have made myself more clear in post..i should have said i dont think the US is over fishing because of some polocies we have in place on certain seafoods.But i Do think alot of other countries are over fishing mainly Japan and some Russian boats. original.gif
Unlimited
I agree col your particular neck of the woods; may conduct good fishing policies..but the asians and indians tear the ocean up...they go so far as using chemicals and bombs to do their fishing...when the ocean dies we all die.
SilverCougar
QUOTE(Col. Kurtz @ Nov 8 2006, 01:38 PM) [snapback]1418980[/snapback]

Please explaine to me what your husband and grandfather sailing careers has anything to do with commercial fishing? You went to school in Mass,,so what and that qualifys you to be what?Im sure you know exactly how to chart a course or use a depthsounder or radar you probably dont even know what port or starboard are without asking.But anyway im sorry if i offended you i shouldnt have used a '' blanket '' statement like that. We can agree to disagree. i should have made myself more clear in post..i should have said i dont think the US is over fishing because of some polocies we have in place on certain seafoods.But i Do think alot of other countries are over fishing mainly Japan and some Russian boats. original.gif



His father.... which would make him my father-in-law wink2.gif Not my grandfather. And how does that help me? From hearing their experiances. By them shareing their knowledge with me and showing me how things work on the ocean. The college at Mass? Again, the experiance of learning. Knowing the right people.. I.E the actual fishermen. Learning from them.

Oh and so glad you think all is right in the world with your little spot. However, when I had spent time in that little fishing village in Mexico.. the biggest complaint was that the fish they were going after keeps getting scarcer and scarcer each year. I dread to think how it will be when I return.

Again you're "ASS"umeing.... Startboard is right... Port left. Bow is front, stern is back. Abaft is rear... Abeam is at right angles to a ship.. Fore is also the front of the ship. Halyards are ropes used to raise the sails. Need I go on? No probaly not. Again you'll probaly "ASS"ume that I had asked or looked it up. Truthfully I knew these things since I was a little girl while boating on a few lakes in the Adirondacks. True that's not near the ocean.. but atleast it was a base study. X)

Your innitial statement wasn't just a blanket statement, it was arrogant. Every post you've bad smacked of supiriority and arrogance... You might sail and fish in one little area of the world.. but other's have been all over to other places and see the effects of over fishing and toxins. Again, it's the same with the salmon here... toxins and overfishing is being very devistating. But as a certain TV host said.. You don't have to take.. my word on it. X)
woody82
Sad but we do over fish for example near enough every supermarket in england here stocks fresh fish so lets take a 24 hour store Asda think about how much fish comes in there in a day per store and we can see why.

But at the end of the day everyone feels fish is good for them so it's not a simpel solution of banning it or cutting down the amounted fished as no one will listen....
vlanos
i guess we cant say "theres plenty of fish in the sea"
REBEL
I love fish/fishing so i never thought i'd live to say this, but GM and fish clonning maybe the way of the future.

What was once a dream in somebody's lab is now a reality, right here and now.
SilverCougar
QUOTE(REBEL @ Nov 9 2006, 07:59 AM) [snapback]1420202[/snapback]

I love fish/fishing so i never thought i'd live to say this, but GM and fish clonning maybe the way of the future.

What was once a dream in somebody's lab is now a reality, right here and now.



Actually, what would help the sealife rebound would be to *NOT* fish the oceans for a year... two if we'd really want it to be stronger then now. It's not the end of the world... there are plenty of fish that are farmed raised that taste just as good. Need an example? Next time you make say.. fish tacos, and the recipie calls for halibut. Use talapia instead. It's a farmed raised white fish that tastes just like halibut. Same texture as well. And the upside.. because it's farm raised.. it's *way* cheaper then halibut. Halibut can go up to $16 or so per pound. Talapia, $4 bucks a pound.

Sadly, there is no tuna farms. (I'm a total fresh tuna addict) However, I'd gladly give tuna up for a year or two if that would insure their presence 50 years down the road and beyond.

That's one of the fish this village in mexico I visit catch. And the major complaint from the fishermen is that the fish are becoming scarcer each year. Rather disturbing.

Sure sushi places will suffer... well, it's either suffer for a year or two... or suffer forever in 45 years.
REBEL
QUOTE(SilverCougar @ Nov 9 2006, 05:53 PM) [snapback]1420222[/snapback]

Actually, what would help the sealife rebound would be to *NOT* fish the oceans for a year... two if we'd really want it to be stronger then now. It's not the end of the world... there are plenty of fish that are farmed raised that taste just as good. Need an example? Next time you make say.. fish tacos, and the recipie calls for halibut. Use talapia instead. It's a farmed raised white fish that tastes just like halibut. Same texture as well. And the upside.. because it's farm raised.. it's *way* cheaper then halibut. Halibut can go up to $16 or so per pound. Talapia, $4 bucks a pound.

Sadly, there is no tuna farms. (I'm a total fresh tuna addict) However, I'd gladly give tuna up for a year or two if that would insure their presence 50 years down the road and beyond.

That's one of the fish this village in mexico I visit catch. And the major complaint from the fishermen is that the fish are becoming scarcer each year. Rather disturbing.

Sure sushi places will suffer... well, it's either suffer for a year or two... or suffer forever in 45 years.

Tuna farms are popping up around Australia in a big way making the owners mega rich.
With trying to stop fishing altogether for just a year or two is almost an impossbility. The die hard professional fishermen around the world will go ape.angry.gif supply and more so demand is far too great.
Then eventually if the fishermen if they don't get their way, it goes underground straight on the black market just like everything else that become$ prohibited. Thats when most of us will become vegetarians. grin2.gif If your a fresh tuna addict theres tons down under South Aussie BlueFin Tuna the best in the world.fact. thumbsup.gif
conspiracysrus
QUOTE
. Startboard is right... Port left. Bow is front, stern is back. Abaft is rear... Abeam is at right angles to a ship.. Fore is also the front of the ship. Halyards are ropes used to raise the sails. Need I go on?

great googling there silver thumbsup.gif
FISH EVERYBODYS FAVORITE DISH meeoowww tongue.gif
SilverCougar
QUOTE(conspiracysrus @ Nov 9 2006, 07:53 PM) [snapback]1420894[/snapback]

great googling there silver thumbsup.gif
FISH EVERYBODYS FAVORITE DISH meeoowww tongue.gif



great being a troll con! thumbsup.gif


I didn't google.. I actually know these terms.
frogfish
*sigh* It's not just commercial and sport-fishing...It toxins being dumped into the oceans, it's oil spills, it's pollution, dredging, and other things that DESTROY habitat.

Fishing is not solely to blame. I would never give up fishing original.gif
REBEL
QUOTE(frogfish @ Nov 10 2006, 09:16 AM) [snapback]1421233[/snapback]

*sigh* It's not just commercial and sport-fishing...It toxins being dumped into the oceans, it's oil spills, it's pollution, dredging, and other things that DESTROY habitat.

Fishing is not solely to blame. I would never give up fishing original.gif

Good point frogfish, it's also now common knowledge that we are pulling more out of the ocean than it has time to reproduce, and it has been that way since the 1970's on and since then technologiy has unforTUNAtly made it even easier to rape our oceans at a mega pace.
The biggest destruction and destroyer of all is ''line net fishing'' which professional/commercial have masterd to an art, trapping and pulling in everything and anything. What they brought back from one week out @ sea ten-twenty yrs ago they can pull in the same amount in half a day today.

As for pollutants, yea your right it does do xtream damage what dos'nt kill some fish others absorb over time evently ending up on our table.
Who knows in thirty or forty years from now we might all start 'glowing in the dark' from the toxic side effects. grin2.gif

It's funny how you brought that last comment up. Whenever theres a problem with dwindeling fish stocks in certain areas the ''Dept of Fisheries and Aquaculture'' always blame the little guys like us frogfish with our ''fishing rods'' rolleyes.gif because we're over fishing the waters, and now they've enforced a capping on the size of what we can keep a what we HAVE to throw back, otherwise massive fines is all we're going to catch...if we get caught. What a joke.


take care.

Rebel
conspiracysrus
wow imagine there will come a time when there are more fish in tins then in the sea?
imagine what that fish will cost.
REBEL
QUOTE(conspiracysrus @ Nov 10 2006, 06:40 PM) [snapback]1421775[/snapback]

wow imagine there will come a time when there are more fish in tins then in the sea?
imagine what that fish will cost.

I cant remember who posted it and were but i remember it saying ''when all the fish are gone, the oceans die and then we die...how true.

If you have some spare $$$ to invest C, buy shares in fish farming, who ever owns them now will be controlling the market in twenty years. wink2.gif
Bearly
QUOTE(frogfish @ Nov 9 2006, 11:46 PM) [snapback]1421233[/snapback]

*sigh* It's not just commercial and sport-fishing...It toxins being dumped into the oceans, it's oil spills, it's pollution, dredging, and other things that DESTROY habitat.

Fishing is not solely to blame. I would never give up fishing original.gif



It is not individual fishing that is causing the problem, it is factory fisheries that are causing the problem. Another problem to face is the dying off of coral reefs. Pollution in many forms is really stressing them out. As we increase the carbon dioxide level in the atmosphere, it changes the pH of the ocean water. Most sealife have very little tolerance for quick changes in pH. Ask anyone who has had a seawater fish tank. This is real reason not to add carbon dioxide into the atmosphere, even if you question global warming.
This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please click here.
Invision Power Board © 2001-2008 Invision Power Services, Inc.