You know, the past couple of days as I’ve been walking around the lake during lunch, I’ve postulated the theory that Jesus Christ was really an alien DNA experiment, and that the whole premise of the human race is that we are a long-running genetic experiment being conducted by a very old (by our reckoning) race of people. Maybe they have been evolving for 500 billion years, and they live for 500,000 years. Let’s say they are a very peaceful, giving people.

They started this experiment say, 20 or 30 thousand years ago, and have been making repeated visits to our planet to infuse us with some sort of gene-splicing material. That’s why there were so many different people, from early ape-man, through Neanderthal to Cro-Magnon to modern Homo sapiens. Each jump in the evolutionary tree was another genetic test.

At one point, they decided to go with one race, let’s just say the Jews, maybe because they were the most cohesive, since they don’t intermingle much with other races. All the accounts you read about in the Old Testament are just the scientists trying to make sure that their control group doesn’t get destroyed.

Let’s say these alien people have evolved to the point where they can communicate through telepathy, and manipulate the elements around them using their minds. Let’s say you’re a shepherd named Moses in ancient Egypt, and you “hear” a voice telling you to do God’s will. Maybe this voice tells you his name is “Yahweh” (which could be the actual name of the lead scientist, for example), and you must do things for him and protect your people. When really what “Yahweh” wants to do is protect his experiment, and continue to get “funding” for it! It goes on and on through the years.

They tried to accelerate the process too much by making Mary pregnant with Jesus. They impregnated her with half the DNA from one of their own. That’s why Jesus was able to do all those things. He grew up knowing he was somehow different than the rest of the kids (as he would be if his DNA was half-alien), and at some point in his life, he got a “calling” to go out by himself. (Once again, “Yahweh” communicating into his mind)

Maybe at that point, this race revealed themselves to him, and showed him some of the marvelous things he could do, being half-them. They show him how to help his fellow man, since they were a benevolent people, and thought they were doing all this to help us move closer along the evolutionary ladder toward them. He was able to know what people were thinking, when power went out of him, make food miraculously appear, heal sick people, etc. All because he was half-alien, from a 500 billion year old race. But, all that he did was not understood; he was far too advanced for the people of that time, and so he was killed.

Maybe he didn’t really die, or die as we know it, but on a cellular level went into some sort of hibernation until his body could regenerate. At that time, maybe the results of his regeneration were that he became more like the race of aliens from ??? (maybe Alpha Centauri, it’s the closest star), and they couldn’t allow him to stay or it would blow the experiment. He was physically taken from the planet.

That’s why, in the 1st book of Acts, you read of him “ 9After he said this, he was taken up before their very eyes, and a cloud hid him from their sight. 10They were looking intently up into the sky as he was going, when suddenly two men dressed in white stood beside them. 11"Men of Galilee," they said, "why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven."

Those two were other members of the scientific expedition making sure that the illusion was maintained.

Maybe they will be back in another 1000 years or so. That’s not so long to a race that lives 500,000 years. Maybe they’ll return, with Christ, since he is now a lot like them, when they think we’re ready to accept the idea that we’re not alone.

It makes sense to me ...

The tower of Babel .and the great separation...eg of speaking different languages..religions... the racial descrimination could have been to keep the races...'experiments' seperate...to see how each blend... DNA experiment evolved...


Memories of these experiments have been passed down as myths..legends... Atlantis...hints in the bible...


I found this site.... I wonder how it went????

http://www.religion-cults.com/cloning/jesus.htm

Wanderer....Your theory is a s good as any. Many more like yours out there. I like your take on the Name Yahweh....clever. My personal feeling is that somehow aliens are involved with our creation. But that's just MHO. I may be totally wrong but I'm a......

If Jesus was part alien, I would think he would have come up with some better material than the warmed over Greek, Zen, Vedic and Zoroastrian philosophy he traded in -- not a single thing Jesus said had not been uttered before by other, wiser philosphers and figures or all sorts ...

If he was part alien, why are there no reports of him looking anything different than an ordinary human being ....?

I don't think you can claim this as your theory. I'm sure I read it in a science fiction book.

Plus since you presented no evidence this really can't be called a theory. It may be a hypothesis, at best.

Who says we know what aliens look like?

Well sure, I have no evidence. No one has any evidence. It's all just a theory, or a hypothesis, or fanciful thinking. What caused the big bang? Who knows? Maybe there wasn't one. Again, who knows for sure? If it makes you feel better to call it a hypothesis, go right ahead.

As far as the "hypothesis" being written somewhere else, it could have been. I have been an avid science fiction buff since I was but a "wee lad"! Maybe I picked it up along the way.

Even a belief in Christ is just that --- a belief. You can't prove he was the Son Of God anymore than I can prove he was an alien experiment. I tend to think that the natural processes that have been established (by whom?) are the most logical explanation for just about anything. The simplest explanation is usually the best. And it doesn't take a belief in God, or take away from that belief, to think that way.

For the record, I do think that there is a purpose to all this, even though I fully admit that I cannot know what it is. I’m just part of the greater universe, and there’s NO way I can even begin to understand the complexity of everything that is in it.

I do think that part of the equation is Christ, whatever that part is (maybe he really WAS an alien DNA experiment), but I am more willing now to entertain various ideas, and use my own logic and intellect to look at stated doctrines with a critical eye. I no longer accept things on “blind” faith.

We're all just looking ...

Well, you do have to go with what you've got.

That's the philosophies that were around at the time. Remember, he would have been part human.

Anyway, my .02

part alien?..like a hybrid?...maybe were all aliens.

Sorry, just had to paste this (copyright Sting) as it sprung to mind.

Christ as an alien has been bandied around many times, but why assume alien means ET. Christ was just different so in that sense was alien.

[disclaimer] This is not in any way an argument for Christ as the Son of God [/disclaimer]

Actually there was one of him as a shape shifter.
He was recognized by his voice.

Kuda ides covjece? - Where are you going, Human?

Written by the Bosnian-Croation physik professor Filip Curlukic in 1990.

Topic: Alien races manipulating Human DNA to create the perfect Human.

Yahweh - the name of the CEO of the intergalactic institution.

Way of comunication: Telepathy.

I am sorry Wanderer, but I read the book. Hope you get the messege.

Really? Wow! To be quite honest, I don't know what book you're talking about.

I would love to read it.

What is the name?

Maybe we are.

We're definitely part of something much greater than any of us. Just look up into the night sky.

The name of the book is in Croation " Where are you going, Human (or Humanity ).

I have read it years ago. Very interesting.

The writer trys to combine modern science, evolution, religion and of course imagination.

I do not know if there is an English version of the book.

His stand point is that, as you said in your opening post, an intergalactic sociaty is manipulating the human DNA to create Humans much alike like them. Not necesarily in "shape" but more mentaly.

Just like on other planets, live began with Darwins evolution of live, and later came the religion to supress the agressive human nature.

That is why throught the religios history we have messengers, the CEO-s managers, supervisors etc.

I like the explanation of the time difference for God and his angels and the earthly time.

I.e. when god says ( in Quran ) that for us 50.000 or 5000 years is for him one day,
the writer explains that as possible timetravel or lightyears.

Lots of interesting stuff in this book ( close to 400 pages ).

Sounds very interesting.

Hopefully, there is an English version. I would love to read it.

Just shows great minds think alike, eh?

Really, this just kind of came to me as I was doing a daily walk at lunch. I had been reading some of the New Testament, and trying to figure out what natural phenomena could explain what happened. I have been looking at a lot of Hubble pictures from Space.com, and just being awed at the complexities and mysteriousness of it all. So, the idea just kind of came together. Like I said in another post, I do believe that the most simplest explanation is the most logical.

Along those lines, something that happens in this physical plane would necessarily have a physical explanation. Why would God create a physical universe and not use the laws he created to run it? Maybe God is using the billions year-old race to work through us.

Or not.

Who really knows anyway?

See what happens when you eat of the tree of knowledge?
(My ex-father-in-law told me that one!)

Thanks for the info.

Let us look at it from a different perspective.

1) Jesus is really the son of God and UFOs are just another clever twist by Satan to deceive people.

2) The German scientists helped the Americans to invent the Flying Saucer. The American government is keeping it secret because they are very possessive of their UFO technology.

3) Maybe the Chinese or the Japanese invented UFOs. This explains the oriental magazine Betty Hill saw in the Alien spaceship.

4) The Aliens are Tibetan monks flying with the power of meditation.

I'll think I'll choose #1

Love,
Madeline

Oh God, don't tell me that you're one of those "satan did it" people...

Satan is responsible for all types of lies. One of his greatest lies is to convince the world he doesn't exist. Satan hates me for preaching the gospel, he tried to kill me on several occasions.

Love,
Madeline

agreed ........

Lord help me, we've got an evangelical. Somebody call mako, 'cause I don't feel like beatin' down the "born again" crowd tonight.

Whos mako? Why did you beat down the 'born again' crowd before? I don't know why any one would want to beat me down.

Love,
Madeline

Mako is a UM Legend. Just like Zandore.

Or maybe this is all just an illusion, and we'll wake up with a hangover.

Maybe the universe is just a ball of dust falling off a very BIG table and when it hits the floor, we'll all die.

Seriously though, a question.

How can you look up into the night sky, knowing that we have now been able to see light coming from billions of light-years away, and not imagine that maybe, just maybe, there are some races that are more advanced than we are? And that maybe, just maybe, they developed space flight? And that maybe, just maybe, they found out about us some way, and have wandered around trying to find out what we are like?

I like the answer in "First Contact" to the question that asks if we are the only ones out here: "Well, if we are, it's an awfully big waste of space."

To me, it's very arrogant, close-minded, and insulting to God to not think that He would create other races if He chose to do so. Why would He create a universe this big just for us?We're not even in the center of our OWN galaxy, which is 100,000 light-years across. We're seeing light from the middle that started it's journey to us 26,000 years ago.

For all we know, there could be 100's of millions of planets, just like ours, with people on them, just like us, right down to the gum on the bottom of our shoes, but we would never know, because the planets are 100's of millions (or even thousands) of light-years apart.

Like I said, no one has the definitive answer. It's all based on what someone else said or wrote.

Hey I am one of those types you speak of and both Mako and Zandore are good friends of mine. It would be a boring world if we all thought the same.

Irish

Jesus was a great philosopher whose ideas should be listened to. He was not the Son of God, the Messiah, the Christ, the Emannuel, or part alien.

whens your shift?...

Whenever I've got my references at hand.

Weellll, either Jesus is the Son of God or he is the greeatest liar ever. How can one be a great philosopher and a liar at the same time? Jesus said himself he was the Son of God, this is the very reason why the Jews wanted him dead.

1 John 4:3 - And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

Love,
Madeline.

Um everything is of god. And by his peoples beliefs we are all sons of god. And the jews didnt want him dead, certain factions who were in power did, plus rome killed him why doesnt anyone ever blame rome for his death.
Even in that bad movie the passion, rome was the one who whiped him and beat him. All they said was kill him.

According to Christianity you're wrong, if you're trying to explain it from a Christian perspective. God of the bibles beliefs we are not all 'children of God,' people BECOME children of God.

John 1:12 - But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

Love,
Madeline

I am Christian and I believe that we are all children of God.
If we were not then the story of the prodigal son becomes babbling nonsense.

While there are a few nice points in the gospel of John, it is my least favorite of the four gospels because it has too much gnostic style mysticism in it for me to trust the information passed on it as much as the information in the other three obviously older gospels.

If what you're saying is true, then John was either lying or completely mistaken when he said that we 'BECOME' children of God. The parable of the prodigal son. When we are "alive again" we are alive twice obviously. We are born once physically, and born twice because we are born-again spiritually. We are alive once because you are given life by God when you are brought into this world as a human being, and we are alive again because you are regenerated and are born-again. The phrase "alive again" is analogous of "born again" , not being born again twice!

Love,
Madeline

Only on UM

"Scientists have discovered that the coffin of Jesus Christ’s brother was made of an unknown material

A sensation happened in the world of science. Specialists are certain that they found a stone of nonearthly origin hidden under the coffin of Jeasus Christ’s brother.

The news about the incredible discovery was reported by Western news agencies. They reported that that the coffin of Jacob was found, the brother of Jesus. According to the Bible, Apostle Jacob was the only step-brother of Jesus Christ. Jacob became the first bishop of Jerusalem


Specialists and archeologists who examined the finding affirmed that it is priceless. They stated that the finding is equivalent to the discovery of Troy. The following Aramaic writings are on the off-color coffin: “Jacob, son of Joseph, brother of Jesus.�

Peter Anrik, a private collector of antiques, said that he purchased the coffin for $700 in an antique shop. This was 15 years ago. He said that he was not really willing to buy that stone, because it did not look really nice as an interior decoration. However, stayed in the collector’s house. The stone was “unveiledâ€� after Peter got acquainted with a professor of Biblical archeology, Andre Lemer. Peter invited him to come to his house and translate the tombstone’s writings.

As soon as Lemer translated the inscription, he realized that he made an incredible discovery. Lemer turned the whole scientific world upside down. Tens of specialists have been to Peter’s house since then. They have all concluded that it was the genuine finding. They said that the inscription was carved on the stone in the beginning of the Common Era. Those words might be evidence that Jesus Christ did indeed live. The Ontario Royal Museum in Toronto, Canada has already announced its wish to possess the coffin. The administration of the museum is reportedly ready to pay almost 500 thousand dollars for the right to own the coffin. Collector Peter Anrik believes that the price of the stone is much higher. He turned the offer down and even hired two bodyguards to watch the priceless ancient relic.

Hardly had the controversy settled down when another sensation happened. Andre Lemer said after a certain period of study that it was impossible to determine the composition of the stone. The professor stated that the coffin was made of a material that does not exist on planet Earth. “Hundreds of such coffins have been found in Jerusalem during archeological excavations. The research has showed that they were made in the first century A.D. That is why, the first thought that I had in my head when I saw Jacob’s coffin was there is something wrong with it. The stone differed from all other stones that I saw before. It had very small pores that could hardly be seen. At the same time, it was incredibly solid. After the tests that we conducted in the lab, I can assure you that our planet does not know this material,â€� said the professor.

However, the professor did not answer where the stone could have come from. Many ufologists, including Russian ones, say that the material of the coffin does not belong to our planet. Dmitry Astrakhantsev, the head of the Ufology and Anomaly Center, said: “Observations and research show that aliens were involved in a lot of things that were happening during biblical times. For example, the birth of Jesus Christ. How can this be explained, the immaculate conception? There is even a hypothesis that says that Mary and Joseph were warned about the birth of their son Jesus. They were informed by aliens –they were thought of as angels, so to speak.â€�

As is well known, the birth of Jesus was accompanied by the birth of the so-called Star of Bethlehem, which pointed the site of his birth. Maybe, it was not a space star, but an alien spaceship?

As far as Jacob’s coffin is concerned, the most incredible theory is as follows. Aliens decided to mark the site of his burial. The coffin was made in the shape of other coffins, but the aliens made it of their own material, from their planet. They wanted the coffin to be preserved for hundreds of years as some sort of sign for us. One could suppose that the coffin plays the role of a radio beacon, transmitting some information, but this is not really believable.

By the way, it has recently transpired that the prime minister of Canada evinced interest in the finding. Therefore the coffin will be taken to a secret governmental lab to be examined and studied there.

Father Sergey, from the Church of the Holy Trinity in Moscow commented on the issue. “The Church rejects the existence of aliens, so any discussion of this theory is out of the question for me. Both Jesus and his brother were canonized. This means that they could work miracles. One could assume that a miracle happened after Jacob’s death and his energy was passed to the stone, and it obtained unusual qualities. Speaking about Jacob’s remains, it is a sin to exhume a burial. A person who disturbed Jacob’s ashes will never be forgiven as well as the person, who kept the coffin in his home for so long. I believe that people should forget the idea of studying the stone. The coffin should be buried again, forever. '

(Based on the materials of the newspaper Sobesednik)

http://english.pravda.ru/main/2002/11/14/39518.html

'Aliens' those that are not native to this planet.... hmm...To think about it...aren't our 'souls' created by a Creator(s) that does not originate with this planet/universe?
Though, this planet/universe is our home for the moment, even if we are so called 'aliens' of this planet.

What more is there?

Sorry for being away so long - personal issues!

I agree that he was a great philosopher, as for the rest .... who knows?

It seems from the writings that he did do a lot of strange stuff. How did it all happen?

Maybe he tapped into some as yet undiscovered bio-energy that enabled him to cure people of blindness, make people walk, and raise the dead.

Or maybe it just appeared that way to 1st century people.

I truly believe that there is a lot about this universe that we do not know.

I am just trying to find the truth, whatever it may be.

I don't necessarily believe it comes from the writings of others just like me who were searching too, but maybe it all leads where it's supposed to.

A long time ago I read a series of books wherein the author translated ancient tablets that describe an alien race being the gods of humanity. And I think it's interesting that religious icons , windows of churches, and the like, are seen to depict flying craft , some with little humanoid shaped people at the wheel. All long before the advent of flying machines. And I wonder if, in the bowels of the Vatican library for instance, there isn't some secret transcripts that allude to an alien presence in our genetic history and our religious.

After all the christians god is a sky father. Living in a heavenly abode, looking down, involved in everything and even has his angels organized in sects , like archangels, etc..., to assist his human creation. It's not a unique myth, in fact it's similar to the cosmology those books I read about ancient Mesopotamia , say. Only in a manner in keeping with their contemporary understanding.
Maybe jesus was an alien hybrid, like we all are to hear those books tell it. Ascending to his heavenly father, coming back, ascending again till some future day to save us from all that they watch happen to us now. Just like the old Sumerians, Mesopotamia and even Egypt.

Maybe aliens aren’t actual physical beings that we often think them as. The idea that earth has being contacted by aliens is the assumption that life on another planet emerged at some time, but I think the problem with that theory is that those life forms would have to somehow locate earth, build space ships that can travel faster than the speed of light and make them invisible so that they could “spy” on us. So if you were to look at this from a logical stand point, it doesn’t seem to make that much sense.
If aliens truly exist, I think it’s probably an illogical phenomenon perhaps a supernatural one. I’m more convinced that aliens are hyper dimensional after reading Alien Encounters by Chuck Missler. His explanation for aliens is that they are spiritual entities like angels and demons recorded in the Old and New Testament. In the Old Testament, the Book of Genesis says “The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.” He suggests that aliens are these sons of God and furthermore stresses the idea that the fallen angels had materialized and interbred with man creating a race of nephilim (a hybrid) He also emphasizes that UFOs could not be literal space crafts because the rate at which they move appear to defy the laws of physics and do not create sonic booms (which happens when something moves faster than the speed of sound like a military aircraft)
Of course his theory is just one of the other possibilities, it still remains as one of the less popular explanations for Aliens, UFOs, abductions, and so forth.

half-alien ? Like me ?

[quote name='Reincarnated' date='Nov 18 2006, 02:34 PM' post='1431493']
Only on UM
Yes, Only at Um. I could not think of another place I know of that would call our lord Jesus an alien, HAHAHA, Always a pleasure.

He that believeth in me shall have everlasting life.

This means we have lived before.

and will live again, it refers to reincarnation. most would not want to believe this because then they would not be able to judge others, for who knows what the acuser did in his lifes before.

Iam a son Of God , and My Eternal spirit has been around since before this world ever was.

Love Omnaka

Actually it does not refer to reincarnation. (There's no such thing).

If you read the scripture you would see that "believing" is a prerequisite to the "everlasting life".

Thats the great thing about Reincarnation, it does not matter if you believe or not for it to be true.

The spirit is eternal created in Father, and Mother's (GOD"s Immage.
If Eternal means Living only once or twice , I think you need to re,examine the definition of eternal, and infinate.

I have believed ever since Father created my spirit, which was born with a tear to go with The breath of Life, before this world ever was.

Iam that Iam, And your unbelief will not change That Iam. God's son.

Jesus is my brother.

Love Omnaka

How can Jesus posibbly be an alien? He didn't born to this planet Earth by parthenogenesis or did he? We, his true followers are then of course aliens like him with very little love for this world and its inhabitants. Are we then more like lizards than humans or what? Yes, and he was influenced by zoroastrianism.

None of our spirits which are eternal were born of or on this Earth, we are of , and Born in what most call Heaven.

Did I tell, That aliens have eternal spirits too, Just like ours?

This is true, only theirs is not restricted to their bodies, and they can leave and come back to their space suit whenever at will, guess we are all aliens.

Love Omnaka

Waow , you always impress me Omnaka ..Love

I made the very same point early this morning, How does anyone know for sure that what one person or ten people record as history, Is truly genuine, Could have been just their pov or could be just completly made up. The people who don't believe in god will point out that the bible that we hold so close and dear is just merely an account of what people said happened. History is the same way, We do sometimes find out we thought wrong or learned wrong when some proof gets dug up and then we say well we were wrong this is right. It just gets me that people will believe what you want them to as long as it's not about God or religion. What does that say about us? We are suppossed to be the most intelligent on the earth aside from God of course. Always a pleasure