Ok – why pursue something with a 99.5% failure rate?

I’m talking about these “Psi Constructs”, the “X-Men typ psi Powers”
Why pursue something that is going to end in failure?

In the 20+ years that I have been more than just ‘checking it out’ – I’ve yet to see any credible reports of anyone being able to step up and say, “Look, I can do "this"”, and actually do "it".

No one has successfully moved out of the: “It works when I’m alone!” phase. It starts there and ends there. It never leaves the "Personal Subjective Realm".

Even after years of practice, reading, re-practicing and re-reading. Reading new stuff and practicing new ideas. Nothing conclusive happens. Nothing that anyone can step up and say, “See, here "it" is.”

So why the pursuit, why the effort that will effectively end in frustration because nothing will/has ever come from these “Psi Constructs”?

Yes I am honestly and actually asking. Can someone give me a logical and reasonable answer to this? I fail to understand the pursuit of energy, effort and time that has been more than proven, will fail.

i think that its beecause our minds can change how we percive reality but not how others do

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You do realize what you are doing, right?
I'm curious, what is the point of trying to discourage people who are interested in the topic of psi and metaphysical abilities? and those who actually have it. Granted there are people here and there who make things up, but it doesn't mean that there aren't sincere people out there who live along with everyone else, even they have metaphysical abilities. What they choose to do with it is of their own 'free will.' And those who don't have it, and want to learn and practice, that is still of their own 'free will.' They care about it, they're determined to succeed in their venture.
People will learn on their own if there isn't a constant teacher assisting them in learning. They will become who they want to be, it is their right. People earn what they deserve, and that isn't up to any other person to decide for them. Plus, things have a way of changing, even methods or information studied and tested before has been revised because of new information.

You have outgrown your psychic developmental years. You must develop it at an early age from someone with such abilities. Without coaching you can never attain such abilities. By middle ages all hopes of attaining such abilities vanishes unless something happen through accident that it jumpstart the process again waiting for input for the development of the psychic mind.

3rd rock,

With all due respect, this is totally unfounded speculation. While psychic abilities may show their first manifestation in youth, there is no evidence they are 'lost' over time with age.

An older person may need to overcome a psychological barrier in order to manifest these abilities if they have not trained themselves from youth, but this is not synonymous with losing the abilities .

I agree with 3rd Rock, but the more knowledge and actual experience, the more the consciousness can expand, where people find that their metaphysical abilities can expand as well. Though it doesn't always happen to every person, and that is the comprehension of the person, whether they are able to handle such and such abilities.
It also would depend what a person chooses during the time they realize they have metaphysical abilities. At times, there will be people who aren't able to handle being 'different' from the rest of the crowd and the pressure that their culture tried to dictate, and they will try to adapt to the the immediate culture by suppressing their abilities in which could lead to a closure of the mind to their abilities.
Then there are people who keep in mind the memory of it, and choose to be more open to it, and as 3rd rock had mentioned, their mind awaits the input to further their 'psychic' development.
Though granted, there are distractions people will get side-tracked from.

As common humans become older, somewhere around old age they will start losing memories and sooner if they have the abilities they will lose it too. Worst if they develop certain mental impairment it just speeds up the process.

One method to keep your mind healthy is to keep reading, learning and do problem solving everyday. That's the best way to retains ones memory. Add exercise too for mind and body.

Because people are stupid no offense to anyone here but people in general are naive and easily mislead.

I think the above also applies to this as well...

Same here i hear a lot of talk but don't see a lot of walk. It is high time people started to justify many claims they make. If they cannot well then it is BS

Thats because in my opinion anyway no such powers exist. Someone in a recently deleted thread (thanks mods for deleting it) said telepathy was was supported by scientific research no one has posted any information to support psychic powers exist. No one has demonstrated such powers exist. I have concluded that such abilities do not exist because of the lack of evidence to support them.


It is likely that nothing conclusive in the favor of such abilities will ever be presented. This is also the same as magic powers and witchcraft etc.

All this stuff is really nothing more then a big joke. What really amazes me more if how many people are naive enough to jump right on the band wagon with absolutly no evidence and nothing to support any of these types of claims.


People simply want to be able to acheive the impossible. Man has always done this however manipulating energy with the mind, seeing the future or other such abilities do not exist.



The only logical answer I can come up with is that people are idiots and no such powers exist. Scientifically such powers are not feasable and again ther is absolutly no evidence to support powers of these nature. While people will say they do they never bring anything to the table to debate with and often look like clowns by the end of an arguement.
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Just look at where this thread is heading You wanted to start a debate and...

The second post was an attempt to demonize your post never really addressing what you said at all. The third was about how you can no longer develope such powers and more BS.
The fourth laid the smack down on the third and then went on into some psychological barrier thats needs to be broken before such abilities can be acheived.....and so on.

None of these posts never in any way really addressed any of the concerns you brought up about silly powers. All the beleivers simply dodged th points made in your post. In my opinion this makes the opposition look like a drunken surgeon asking for more scalpals instead of paddles when a patient flatlines.

As humans grew older they become forgetful. As they grew more older It's bodily function starts to fail. Last one to shut down is the mind. By now it's almost 99.9 percent failure rate.

That high of a failure rate? I don't think so.

And about your subjective theory, I've done telekinesis in front of friends many times. Frankly, though, I suck at it. I admit it. I barely practice. I have more fun things to do than practice. If I ever get very good at it, though, I plan to go have studies done.

And besides, just because people don't step up doesn't mean it doesn't exist. That makes it more likely that it doesn't exist, but it's not solid proof.

I practice because, unlike you, I am NOT a failure. That tends to make the experience just a little more fun.

Mine did.

There is the saying that if it can be imagined, then it can exist...It's for the possibile discovery that drives those interested to figure out a means of tapping into these supernatural abilities. It may happen soon, or several centuries from now - but if it's meant to happen, it will when the time is right.

You make a valid point - however, keep in mind that it takes pioneers to discover that which may be commonplace in the years to follow - trial & error, even when errors can be discouraging at times.

This 'age thing' is silly at best. This can no more be proven then disproven - since no one at any age (esepcially younger) that can actually do any of this "Psi Constructs" except inside their 'own minds' and alone. So age obviously has nothing to do with it.

Besides I know someone personally that is in their early 50's - that has, what is accepted as Psi (they hate the term pyschic) abilities. It has nothing todo with "Constructs" - but it does have to do with the working with the mind w/other people online and/or in person. So age really has nothing to do w/it.

Jj -

For some people, it does, as circumstances vary because of their choices and actions. Age has an affect on people in dynamic ways, some elderly people develop dementia, amnesia, etc., that can affect who they are, and what they are capable of doing.

Yes asking a question, that I have long wanted to ask for some time. No I'm not a 'debunker' not all. I actually accept valid Psi abilities. By "valide", I mean that which can be shown to be real when asked. Very simple.

If one has a problem with a question - it is not the question that is the problem - it is the answers that are seen to that question that create the problem.



Ah but where is the 'constant teacher'?

Where is a teacher in this field that can actually stand up and prove it? Where are they?? I see the books, read a few - and yet they cannot do themselves, they say the same thing, "here is how to do 'it" - (have not mastered it myself) - "with lots of practice..." -(they too are still practicing with no results, except too, when they are alone.)-

This is very much like the "Blind Leading the Blind" - if you ask me.

When you have "Blind leading the Blind" - where does that actually lead??

Jj -

That's exactly right.

If we follow the aga thing - If you have not mastered this before 10 years old - FORGET IT. Will not happen. Once puberty begins to set in - it's all down hill. This is only too well documented that puberty is a time of physical and emotional havoc, that basically doesn't stop for a good decade, aprox. age 23 +/- . Then what happens after that -> the reality of life sets in. Job, marriage, family, mortage, kids school. It isn't then till one is in their 50's that life once again settles down. The empty nest, kids on their own - in most cases - and one is left to re-discover ones life again.

So hmm -- when does one's life settle down enough to try these things again, if not done before 11? Wow, it could be easily argued, 50's and beyond.

In other words - the age thing as has been presented - is really honestly very silly.

Jj -

No one can truly tell someone else the exact steps on how to get somewhere, even if it is convienent. A person needs to explore more on what is right for them based on who they want to be.
A teacher can only assist, not do all the studying and thinking for the student. If so, what is the point of the student to be taught? They need to have some type of independence.
The constant teacher, if there is lack of one, it would be the person himself/herself, though there will be people who may come into their life to help transition them if the person is willing. A person needs to take time and effort to study, practice, and experience, to formulate solutions, beliefs, and perspectives on various situations based on what way works best for him/her to achieve what they want. But in order to move on and actually progress, they need an open mind.
How can a person truly learn with a narrow mind? How can they expand their horizons holding onto beliefs that hinder any type of knowledge that can be useful? How can anyone progress if they are ALWAYS doubting themselves and what they are studying? You think that they will see any opportunities that come to them? Probably not, they'd be too wrapped up. And how do you think potential teachers would react to that? They may not see the point in teaching that person, unless they are intent to prove something to them. Which isn't always the case.

The blind leading the blind, well, I would have to agree that there are people who are blind to alot of things trying to prove or teach others something. Whether a person has the good judgment of character would be based on their competence and knowledge, and that can vary.
There will be people who will be on different levels that have it in their range of experience and knowledge to teach at least something to another.
Though this also brings up the discussion of being open, again, how can anyone learn if they are so blinded by doubt and the surety that most things in whatever subject is a scam or false? How can anyone understand anything, if they are blinded by their own prideful banter of trying to define other's beliefs? Who can really know the absolute truth anyway? Reality changes for people depending on what they know, understand, and learn. Information changes because of culture, or some type of event, and what was true, can be untrue, vice versa.
I'm sure it'd be nice to have someone give us all the answers, but there are some things to be explored alone by a person, and some things will be a mystery. Even if people don't find the answer to the mysteries, perhaps later on others will.

Well ok - simple - cause this is exactly where the facts lay: Prove it. Prove that the "high reate of failure is, "I don't think so." In the focal point of this dialog - show some solid evidence that shows even, well I would say 25% success rate. (I've looked there is no solid evidence.) So good luck, I mean it. Cause honestly I would love to see some valid evidence.

Jj -

Well, that depends how much a person can handle. Whether they are willing to mentally overcome matter and try to solve their 'issues.' And no one said to simply forget it if you're at such and such age. We're simply presenting a matter that can be possible.




*sigh* Why don't people take the time to prove it to themselves? Why is it that people keep wanting others to prove so much to them? If a person really wants to learn something, why not just take the time and effort to study and experiencing it themselves?
I don't believe in defining other's beliefs, if they want proof, they should just find it on their own. Where will be the end of what proof is good enough? Especially when information changes based on various people?

I can't prove it, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't exist or that there is a 99.5% failure rate.

If you offer no proof, then we offer no belief.

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He raises a good point.
People still need to listen more to Triad...

You do realize that I have taken the time to 'prove it to myself' as have many many others - even on this board - and yet what do we see? NOTHING! Nothing at all, except the same old lines over and over again. "Keep practicing and it MIGHT happen. Case in point I've not even read in other threads that it WILL, it's always might.

So here is another question:
Why is it never stated: YOU WILL DO "THIS". "IT" WILL HAPPEN. (??)
There is never any difinitive given, never a 'money back' on the book if 'this' doesn't work. It's always left with, "maybe", "might" if you 'practice "long" enough, maybe..." isn't that expressing "doubt" in it self? Especially if you really stop to honestly think about it.

Try the psiwheel it works.

I seriously think this is EXCELLENT. Well stated, Eric!

You expect acceptance, understanding, belief, encouragement - but yet look at what is actually offered, given and seen. I'm talking even over the past 20+ years. There is nothing there, totally and completely nothing except the exact same lines - "maybe", "might", "practice long enough", and yet with 20+ years of this - nothing even remotely significant has happen in the context of this thread. Nada.

(This is NOT a good track record, if you honestly think about it. Not a good track record at all.)

I mean - if you were asked to invest money into a 'stock' with this record, would you? Say turn the time of practice into dollars.

Say you give 60 minutes a day, to = $60.00. You practice once a day everyday.
$60.00 x 365 = $21,900.00 a year.
Would you actually invest that much money into this 'stock'??
Or let's be less. say 60 minutes 3 times a week. $60.00 x 3 = $180.00 X 52 = $9360.00 a year. Would you seriously invest that money into this "stock"?
Even say $60.00 x 2 = $120.00 x 52 = $6,240.00.
Or even the $60.00 x 1 = $60.00 x 52 = $3,120.00

Now when we put it into this 'factor' - would you actually "invest"? Knowing exactly the 'return investiment' that "might", "maybe" happen -> if you 'invest long enough' might happen. Would you?? Honestly??

You have the opportunity to proove otherwise.


The psi-wheel has already been debunked as not really moving due to psychic powers and that thread had died a long tim ago.

The psi-wheel prooves nothing.



I beleive we are trying to find proof on our own by asking those who say they can do such feats. No one however has been able to offer proof. How come no one can demonstrate powers under controlled conditions? It prolly has something to do with the fact they don't exist.

As world is being clouded by much information justifying what proof is and who can come up with it!!!

What is it a contest to see who can come up with the miracle of proof once to everyone so that skeptic people could see how that they can prove that it is impossible and try to find some other explanation that fits their beliefs!!!!!!!

Beliefs are made to change and change they will, for all anyone knows a big phenomenon that has many people to have such abilities shown to the world comes out to the world shows the world the truth. That we humans are capable of just building machines and making money, and that our minds and consciousness is the future of what we are to achieve. Whether it is controlling the human minds on earth, human minds furthering into the infinite, or staying the same way while technology furthers us and takes over!!!!!

These are things that such people don't think of!! The mind is the number one computer and great tool on this planet and even in this universe. Yet we still don't understand everything that it is capable of and all the components and the ability that they have.

Humans are going to further whether they like it or not because some are already on the planet and are not afraid of telling everyone of what they can do and some are afraid of telling such people. Why??? Because if anything paranormal or something that people or the government doesn't understand they will be examined and further observed until what we are afraid that they have something that we don't' is fully explained. I think that that is one thing that scares people, the government who watched us everyday even though they are trying to keep us in control and weak and meager to their standards!!!

We have to know that mind over matter, psi, and many other paranormal feats. are going to be normal. It won't if the people that want to believe that it isn't and that humans are incapable of such feats. if cannot be seen. Even the mind and the eye plays tricks on us so we don't have full control on what we learn and see as proof, these are such things that bring us to Belief!!!!!!!!

DhA...OraCle
-Randy W.

The issue is whether or not it's worth putting effort into something that may or may not happen. It's only natural for many humans to be skeptical, myself included - even when I am open to the possibility, until I actually see & verify the act - all that everyone claims is merely words typed on a forum. If one boasts the claim publically, then be prepared to prove it in person - otherwise, it will be very easy to discredit the claim & the one that claims it.

There is also the problem of consequence...Theoretically, if one actually has power of a supernatural nature, drawing attention is not the course of wisdom. There are humans that will naturally fear, while others will desire to acquire such power for their own - as seen in the X-Men films for example. The chances of being captured for scientific study would almost certaintly be definite - poked, prodded & probably dissected to reverse engineer the ability.

Thats always the excuse used.
It just an excuse because no one can really perform the supposed power. Pitiful really.

Your right it is just an excuse, the US governnment at one point during the cold war had programs designed to study such abilities. Of course they cancelled these programs most likely due to the fact that nothing justified keeping them open. The only reason they existed in the first place is because they thought the Soviets were doing the same thing.

These powers simply do not exist and those who beleive in them are naive. As I have said before people are stupid and idiotic especially when it comes to things like this. Over half of the population beleives in powers like these without evidence of their existence.

In the focal point of this topic - who says "this" - is 'going to be normal'?? Except from the science FICTIONS of X-Men, Jedi, the various Annima's - these are all FICTION based on the IMAGINATIONS of people trying to make one thing - MONEY, NOT scientific predictions. It is science FICTION.

I mean if we wanted to get into Science Predictions - we were suppose to have flying cars by 2000. We were suppose to have holidays on the Moon and space stationS around the earth. There were suppose to be other advancements too. Umm, where are they?? These were actually based on science predictions based on the then predictions of science then.

Now in the Psi Contructs - this isn't even based on actual science - but pure fiction. There is nothing any where that even remotely points to this being possible, except in the hopes of making money in a few minds. Not by doing these things, but getting people to spend their money into believing they can! But even ANY and ALL books are curriously empty in actually or any valid and real proof. Why do you think that is?? Missing actual proof and evidence of this being real??

Jj -

I don't care that you don't believe.

Yes with such a high failure rate it is useless but it is even more useless to keep believing in this psi BS.

Ok -

Belief -vs- Proof.

I have seen enough post of people saying, "this is my belief..." (in many various forms.)

Hey that is TOTALLY COOL! Really, it is. I have my beliefs too.

But here in still is the question that I saw got ignored:

The changing the "Psi-Construct" into a "Stock Investiment" w/the time spent practicing to dollars. Each minute equals $1.00 out of your pocket.

Here is the honest question - Knowing what you know and understand about "Psi-Constructs" would you invest your money into this "Stock" - would you hand over the money, w/the only assurance being - "maybe", "might", if your practice (invest) enough - maybe it will work (create a return on your investment.) Would you hand over your money under these conditions - knowing that thus far - NO RETURN has been seen, noted or recorded. It has returned NO RETURNS for you investiments.

Say you give 60 minutes a day ($60.00.)
$60.00 x 365 = $21,900.00 a year.

60 minutes 3 times a week.
$60.00 x 3 = $180.00 X 52 = $9360.00 a year.

Even say 60 minutes 2 times a week.
$60.00 x 2 = $120.00 x 52 = $6,240.00.

60 minutes once a week.
$60.00 x 1 = $60.00 x 52 = $3,120.00

Would you actually invest any of these amounts into this 'stock'??

They say, "time is money" invest it wisely - to ensure a return on your investiment be it time or money. Is there really an honest return?? Or would you consider the investiment to high a 'risk'? Be honest...

Jj -

Great Post Personaly I would not waist my time on any of this Psi!
I mean i have tried the Psiwheel thing with thermodynamics and that works well,
But as far as investing money in a stock of maybe it works I really dont think so.

Well people still buy lottery tickets...and i think you have beter odds of being a psychic then winning the lotto.

Yes this is true on the Lottery Tickets - but they know what they are 'investing' in - the knowledge and understanding is totally upfront. The "risk" is completely understood.

But Lottery Tickets are not the same as investing into a "Stock". Totally two different worlds.

I mean if one wishes to compare Psi Constructs to that of the gamble of Lottery Tickets. Then we throw in another new term: A Gamble or Game of CHANCE

Jj -

PSI Construct Going IPO? I'm buying 500,000 shares from 5 to 15 dollars. By a month it "may" go as high as $ 30 per share. It's a buy.

Do what you need to do!
I feel you are being a dumbass though.

I know you're going to buy it when it reaches $ 50 per share. It would probably split many times.

Possibly how do any of you know o any possibility that the government is not still running these types of programs. Put it this way if they and the press told you they stopped it then that was only to distract your attention from whatever they was doing. The government, who controls the press which you believe in this everyday world, comes on if it will make the government look bad or obsessive you think it is going to be printed or told!!! What you think ToP sEcReT was made for come on not for us to know!!!!!!!!





No it is not an excuse because the only way that a person could actually come out and do what he says to be real to him is to go out in the public place where you really pay anyone to fake it. Then when it is spread all over the country then the world about what he/she can do especially if it looks dangerous enough or extraordinary enough to take down another country everybody will be after him/her. These are things that you will never hear about, like when a person disappears and goes into the government never coming out because they keep control over the population stopping you from asking the wrong questions!!!!!

They would probably keep your attention on something that you would think is interesting while in the background they are doing whatever!! It doesn't matter because the government is the best magicians in the world always pulling something over you eyes while making the illusion of what they are doing is for the good of the country!!!!!!

Half of the world population believes in GOD but has never seen him or really have any proof of his existence and creation!!! They believe so what!!!!!! what does that have to do with your belief and how skeptic you are these are the people of the people who invented such things that we use today, not the people who run their mouths about what cannot be done!!!!!!!!!! This is the things that we have to overcome; that we cannot do anything that we want, that any possibility is too big for the human race!!!!!!!! It is getting very tiresome to say that belief in anything other than science which everyone thinks can explain everything is bogus!!!!!

For many years scientists still cannot figure out why we are here, the secret to life???? Life is not numbers and equations that are technology and applications!!!!!!! Belief, consciousness, ego, mind, socialization, and knowledge are some of the main applications in our life!!!!

This is what it is, because the truth is that don't either want to or am trying to change your mind, just open your mind up to something bigger than what you believe in or more knowledge that this world is nothing but a limit of numbers and possibilities!!!!! Because even numbers grow always in every situation like money, come on Bill Gates will be a trillion-aire in about 10 or 12 years . People back in the 60's didn't even think a billion would exists but the biggest economical venture is about to hit a trillion.

DhA...OraCle
-Randy W.[/i]

umm - 3rd Rock, you do realize that the past 20+ years showed 0 growth, thus 0 earnings?? Not even remotely a good track-record for a stock. In fact it would be pulled and the company would close down.

You do understand that "current trends" show exactly the same growth?

So for it to even grow in value is ZERO, let alone "split" - that's even a ZERO.
(I removed "chance" because it's not even a zero "chance" - it's just zero, period.)

You have shown one thing - you do buy into the 'hype' not reality.

So from an investiment standpoint you are showing that you really do throw your money away?

But I guess - throw it way dude - after all it is your time and your money.

Hey throw some my way - I'll atleast return 10% of what you gave me. I'll take 90% and return your10% - that's a better deal than this - trust me!

You really do use A LOT of !!!, don’t you? (But they do not help to prove your point, trust me.)

What does ANY of the above have to do with “Psi Constructs”? I fail to see the relationship at all.

Government TOP Secrets have NOTHING to do with “Psi Constructs”.
Faith in God has nothing to do with “Psi Constructs”
Inventions based on science and physics have nothing to do with “Psi Constructs”
The Secrets to Life, socialization and such have nothing to do with “Psi Constructs”
Bill Gates financial empire has nothing to do with “Psi Constructs”

So umm, what does this post have to do with investment of time in something that has been well proven in 20+ years to NOT WORK? There has not even been a semi-minor ‘break through’ in this “Psi Construct” fantasy?

As the analogy of it being a ‘stock investment’, it would have been pulled 15+ years ago as a very serious BAD INVESTMENT! No one in their ‘right mind’ would invest in it, nor would anyone of any integrity or ethics even touch it in recommending it, unless they were simply going to pocket your money and leave. The returns are simply NOT THERE! Period.

Also note: With these authors of the books and lessons and such: There is NO guarantee, or money back. Wonder why that is?? They know they cannot offer that, if they did: NO publisher would publish the book, for good reason! Same as with the stock – except the publisher and author would go broke! But that means nothing too, I guess??


Jj -

Then don't get upset when skeptics call you out.

all of which i said are disclaiming what these people said such as believing in psi, or what the government has done or could be doing all pertaining to what they are doing. The government is not just doing something on money, technology, or human resources, they have many more projects on there hands!!!!

This and everything else that i talked about has much to do with it because i try to explain............but it doesn't really so i will try t explain myself much better than this time on what those people said about what they said about psi and the government!!!!!!!!!!!!

DhA...OraCle
-Randy W.

Ok - I look forward to it - just do me a favor, please - loose the !!!!!! they only make your case you look weak. Kind of like a guy trying to prove his point by cussing - it only weakens the case/point - it doesn't help it. One or two !! will do the same.

But remember this isn't focused on Psi in general. I have already stated quite clearly in a number of posts/threads - that evidence for RV'ing is really quite strong that it is real and does work. I have no issues with that. Nore do I have issues with people telling me they are an "empath" which some equate to a psi ability.

What the thread is specifically addressing is the waste of time on "Psi Construsts" specifically or X-Men type psi abilities of manipulation of fire, ice, weather, flying, saping another 'life force' - moving small and even large objects with their mind. This is what is being addressed.

So let's keep it focused - Ok??

Zero growth? look at the numbers. There's no declining. It's growing. Think of it as your safety deposit box. Its a buy.

My psi construct investment would make me:
Say you give 60 minutes a day ($60.00.)
$60.00 x 365 = $21,900.00 a year richer

60 minutes 3 times a week.
$60.00 x 3 = $180.00 X 52 = $9360.00 a year richer

Even say 60 minutes 2 times a week.
$60.00 x 2 = $120.00 x 52 = $6,240.00 richer

60 minutes once a week.
$60.00 x 1 = $60.00 x 52 = $3,120.00 richer

Nothing can go wrong.

You really have no clue how the investment stock market works do you??

In all sincerity if what you are looking for is a ######9.5 failure rate, in respect to history, all one has to look at is the skeptical response. This in relation to just about everything that today is taken for granted (like planes and just about every other thing including the fact that the Earth is flat) As far as a ######9.5 inability to engage in paranormal type ability (in a valid way) with respect to an individual, obviously this is a person who should engage in some other vocation.

Any thoughts?

PS: Why in Gods name is a percentage rate blocked in this forum???????

I've only seen evidence to support Telepathy. The tests were done on 2 young twin boys. The results were in no way a "failure".