Some people have brown eyes
some a different hue
Some chicks like chicks
some dudes like dudes
grass is green
sky is blue

Maybe, if people STOPPED treating them as if they were abnormal, they wouldn't have to be so vocal about it.



What does that have to do with anything?



So, by your reasoning, if it were "noraml" to have blue eyes, we would ALL have blue eyes?
Or if it were "normal" to have red hair, we would ALL have red hair?

As to being "judgemental", I think you are confusing that with being defensive. By your arguments, people being put upon, whether for reli8gious, sexual orientation, or racial reasons, shouldn't speak up?

So the next time some low life uses the "N" word, I shouldn't voice any objections, right?

One could also argue that these are the result of organized religion, and not the result of following God. Even people claiming to act in the name of God do not in fact act in the way God wishes Whatever happened to Love your neighbour? The world is the messed up place it is because everyone's running around pretending to be little gods. Running their life their way. Too bad that when we try to run things our own way we inevitably stuff up, thus making the world the way it is today. The people in religion are no less guilty of this than the secular community.

Actually everything they did was because "God wanted it" They got it from the same bible that says "Love thy neighbor".

Organized religion doesn't make them any less Christian.

But is what they thought God wanted actually what God wanted?

And there, my paranoid friend, you have hit the nail squarely upon its head.

If people claim that their actions "are what god wanted.....", how are we to know this? You can say "god came to me and said......" but did god really? And how presumptous of man to dare speak for god. Can't god speak for him/herself?

How then, can we accept that a 2,000 year old tome is "what god said"?

Personally, I have a problem with very elderly drivers: I think that they create a risk for others. Now, if I were writing what was to be the supremely authoritative book on The Rules Man MUST Obey ('god' author, Paradise Press, 1st printing: beginning of time), then I very well just might be tempted to throw a line in there to the effect of "And God decreed verily that 70 and 1 shall be the age of the pedestrian.....". And if I claimed that the line was divinely inspired, who would disagree?

Indeed, the argument can work both ways, JM. Because of human's nature, we will all live as our own little gods. Becoming a Christian doesn't mean one stops disobeying God. It just means we try not to. I just don't think setting ourselves above God is the way to achieve a better result.

And the prophet JMPD spake unto the people of UM, saying, "Wither thou shalt go, be thouest mindful of thy elder driver, for it is they who shalt bring destruction upon all who cross their path" (JM 3:34)

LOL A prophet? Well, I always knew I was Devine.......




See, I always felt that the bible was a social code of ethics, and was given the "god" stamp of approval by the authors just to dissuade anyone from disobeying.

On another note, do you really think god really cares who sleeps with who?

Do you really, really think that god has nothing better to do than keep track of the supposed deeds and misdeeds of men?

And ofcourse you speak as if we all should be worshiping this god.

My wise old woman is gone.. replaced with a bitter tired feline. I have no nuggets of wisdom to show why it is best to let people worship who or what ever they please... I know it'll be ignored or passed off into "But all roads lead ti what /I/ believe is the one true god/faith/pink elephant of doom."

Feh...

I believe God cares about what we do and how we act. Though i think he has a lot of things better to do also. But I think God's great at multi-tasking..... hey, I guess that's proof right there that God is a woman

If you are going to use words of mine in quote at least use the right one would you. N_A_T_U_R_A_L, is different from N_O_R_M_A_L. Normal is a social word, natural is a science word. Don't use different words when you quote people you look like Joey from friends in that episode where he was using the pantomime quotation marks at the wrong time. Someone made a comment about people who were handicapped not being gay (actually they were more offensive about it but you get the point) (and also I'm reasonably sure there are homosexual handicapped people) So thats what that was about, read all the posts,not just the ones you want to attack. I don't know where you live but where I live people don't treat people differently because of sexual orientation, we're not that ignorant. By making such lame generalizations, and painting so many with the same brush you don't allow your arguments to speak for themselves. It would be NATURAL for everyone to have Blue eyes if genetically thats all that ever developed. It would be NORMAL for people to be gay if people weren't so hung up on people's personal lives, and already didn't have a deep seeded aversion to the lifestyle based on years and years of indoctrination and moral brainwashing. Homosexuality has enjoyed periods of acceptance and periods of unacceptance, from place to place. Hetorosexuality has had these ups and downs too, witness the puritans. We would all like it to be different, but the fact is not enough time has passed for it to become the norm rather than the exception. Not long ago in just about everywhere you want it was a crime to be gay.

And yes I was talking about people being judgemental because I actually know the real meaning of words. To judge everyone as if they come from the same ignorant neck of the woods you must be from, you end up looking like the people you rail against.

Perhaps, you need to re-read what you posted... I underlined and bolded the relevant line

I questioned your line:

because it seemed like a non-sequiter and I was asking for clarification, which you provided in your later post. But, you assumed it was an "attack"

As to being judgemental......
Well, it looks like you've already made your judgement of me, and although I agree with your statement that peoples personal lives should be their own business, I will refrain from further discussion with you.

ta.

Homosexuals should act "normal" and keep it to themselves?

Right so Heteros keep it to themselves? Sex is everywhere for heteros. Just the same way you feel about Homo sex being shoved in your face, they feel about Hetero sex.

I was in a literature class recently and a gay guy remarked "God I am sick of hearing about hetero love."

Take the movie Click for example. You have on and on about how he loves his wife, she loves him, flash backs to the first kiss, his bosses girls all over the place in hootchie mama clothes, Jennifer Coolidges character whining about cheating and then hooking up with the boss. You had him going on about his daughters tits and his wife's new husband. They were kissing, everyone was fooling around. The parents even had sex in it. Heck the DOGS even had sex in it.

To a homosexual heterosexual sex is EVERYWHERE>

So they are acting normal. Its just you are prejudiced against it because it grosses you out.

My life will forever be less now.