December 23, 2012 is the date on which the Mayan calendar ends, predicting an apocalyptic event.

Think this is true? Do you believe that are there clues from the bible that point to the end of days?

Its not only the Mayans who have suggested the end of the world as we know it,
there are ancient writtings which tell of a Planet x, Nibiru. which is due any time in the next 20 years ,{give or take} which will pull the earth apart with its gravity.
So clues are there to the end. but may be not the end to mankind.

my whole life iv senced the sence of forboeding and i truly belive that there is somthing is comming because every religion evver has hade some sort of end to all life as we prediction .

Wait...my calendar ends on December 31st, 2006! The end is nigh!

Calendars have ends. The Mayan calendar is no exception. And just like our calendar, it just restarts. The reason this particular date in the Mayan calendar is getting so much publicity is because it's the end of the 13th (nominal 12th) b'ak'tun, which would technically kick off another cycle of thousands of years before an event like this happened again.

While this is interesting, it should also be noted that the Mayans celebrated all kinds of "milestones" like this. They would even go so far as to build monuments for events as small as the end of a k'atun, which is approximately 20 solar years. I see no reason why this is any different.

As for the Nibiru/Planet X theories...well...Sitchin is what we call a crackpot.

"""Sitchin is a crackpot."""

I hope so !

Everything has an end just like the dinosaurs

I typed this somewhere else. But I'll post it again. Riddle me this: If they said about 'the end of the world.' How come they say about a 'new world order' afterwards?

The Mayan Calendar will probably reset itself.

Yea, but this was calender was made by a race of people that don`t exist anymore, and that disappeared, in theory.

If thats the case then they messed up pretty good with their own calendar.

They didn't disappear, they scattered throughout Central and South America after their civilization fell to internal conflicts. There's still some Maya around, in fact.

2000 was suppose to be the big mark for the end of human existence...yet I am still alive.

Who are "they" and when was the last time the end of the world was mentioned in the same paragraph as new world order? Two completely different things.

Why are people still talking about this

I was watching a program about the "2012" thing. And they were talking "The Mayans" & the "New World Order" come up. And that's how the question popped up. I understand where you're coming from.

every year at about this time something like this comes up. The Mayan calender will just restart as someone has already said, it was the Aztecs who disappeared, there are still Maya today as someone has already said. If Nibiru really did exist then there would be more geological proof of its passing us repeatedly.

here's my theory on that. the date stopped there because while they were recording it, something big happened, maybe a war or something, and they have to abandoned it.

Maybe, Bluefenix. O_O Who knows really. That could be right.

Or maybe they thought those living in 2012 would simply make a new calendar and they saw no need to go past it.
If world is going to end on Dec 23 2012 there is not much we can do about it anyway. I guess we skip buying Christmas presents that year.

Well yes I agree that we are living at "the end of days" but only insofar as we refuse to acknowledge that uncontrolled population growth will strip the Earth of its ability to support us. It is a glaringly obvious fact and a question that no Politician nor Scientist will dare consider let alone mention.
If the population of the world continues to grow at its present rate we will reach the point where the Earth will not be providing sufficient resources to support us ....by 2012. After this date we will enter a long dark period of decline as we begin to fight over diminishing resources.

Im sure we would have killed eachother by then!

Eh, it's possible I suppose, but their calendar is a little different than ours, in that it's circular. When the 12th b'ak'tun (the present one) ends, the calendar cycles back to the 1st b'ak'tun, which is actually the 13th. The next b'ak'tun after the 13th is the nominal 1st but chronological 2nd.

Also, the Mayan Loung Count is complicated, and as such, was shortened for common use by the Maya. According to the Maya, the last creation ended on a date of 13.0.0.0.0, which is a date which is approaching again in Dec. 2012. However, when the larger units of time are shown (they're usually not, due to the vast timespans they cover), the end of the last creation occured at 13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.0.0.0.0, while in 2012 we will only be at 0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.13.0.0.0.0.

We're safe for a while.

actually the end is probably on dec. 31, 2009. But I don't believe in anything. So how would I know.

You know what the end of humanity will be? A cute cudly bunny army! We'll never see it comming and bunnies are every where! There are sleeper cells everywhere! They let you take them as pets so they can spy on you.

The only hope we have is to make allies with squirrels in hope that they can defeat the bunnies.

Bugs Bunny is there propaganda...the easter bunny is WMD.

Eat your carrots kids! Starve the bunnies!

I don`t know. You don`t beileve in anything?! Glad am not you lol no offense.

The date is correct but it does not necessarily predict a catastrophic event. It states that it is the date when a new age will begin. Yes, prior ages were terminated by water and wind but there is no description of what will introduce the new age.

But if they were telling the truth, what would happen you think?

I think that global warming will destroy the earth

Until our sun goes supernova the earth will be here in one form or another. Therefore it will not be destroyed, but that doesn't mean it will be inhabitable.

''Zecharia Sitchin is on crack and pot.''

nah, they probebly coudn't count beyond that.

Anyone unsure of the ''Tzolkin''(Mayan Calender), check out the DVD...
The Mayan Calender Comes North '' The condor Flies to the Eagle''
presented by Ian Xel Lungold,...even for those that have no respect for the Ancient esoteric cultures of South America.


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The last creation ended on a long count of 13.0.0.0.0. Another 13.0.0.0.0 will occur on December 21, 2012, and it has been discussed in many New Age articles and books that this will be the end of this creation, the next pole shift or something else entirely. However, the Maya abbreviated their long counts to just the last five vigesimal places. There were an infinite number of larger units that were usually not shown. When the larger units were shown (notably on a monument from Coba), the end of the last creation is expressed as 13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.0.0.0.0, where the units are obviously supposed to be 13s in all larger places. In this age we are only approaching 0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.13.0.0.0.0, and the larger places are nowhere near the 13s that would match the end of the last creation. (Schele and Friedel 1990: 430)

This is confirmed by a date from Palenque, which projects forward in time to 1.0.0.0.0.0, which will occur on October 13, 4772 (a Friday). The Classic Period Maya likely did not believe that the end of this age would occur in 2012. According to the Maya, there will be a baktun ending in 2012, a significant event being the end of a 13th 400 year period, but not the end of the world.

- Not by me.

^ Thank you for that, but we all know how to use wikipedia.

The calendar I'm using ends on 31st December 2006 ........... So I guess that must be the end of the world?

ummmmmmmmm...no.

On the brightside, if the world does end i don't have to pay my university fees back.

Ever thought that the Mayans just couldnt be bothered to continue, and came to a convienient point? They cant go on forever! They had been writing dates for the next couple thousand years or so.

December the 23 2012 will be the end of a age the age of the jaguar in the mayan calander. Thats what i read.

Unless it was Pii it had to zero out sometime. Is it true that the maya did it so accurately that its use as the standard?

I live everyday as if it may be my last. Not in a reckless way but right with my creator. Being Christian I believe in the 2nd coming of Christ.....not so much as the bible speaks, but a day of reckoning and major change. I am prepared to stand before my creator and enter the gates of heaven...whatever that may be.

If it happens tomorrow, so be it....on Dec 23, 2012, that'd be fine too...

Regardless when it is, i take it very seriously....after all what do I have to lose?

I doubt though that anyone will know the exact date. Perhaps that date will have some other meaning...its hard to say.

Doesn't the Egyptian calendar end on 2000?

maybe its when one of the world's supervolcanoes will errupt. I believe the world will bring order unto itself.

Yeah the ring of fire scares me too.

its not the end of the world, it's a wipeout. many people will die, but few will survive.

cause of this "end" ARE ourselves. world is now full of negative energy caused by wars, death, diseases etc. and people ofcourse are too materialistic. we don't care about spirits and all this kind of mental stuff.

This global disaster or "end" is going to wipe most of us, but there is a place/island, the Noah's Ark, the safe place, somewhere on our planet, where last humans are going to make a better world. some even believe that people, who lived before us(aliens for us) will come just before the "end" and rescue "the chosen ones".

It all may hear a big nonsense, but we should think about this, before it's too late. so everybody, think positive, love people and the nature, help each other.
all the signs in this world show that something IS going to happen. global warming, change of the magnetic pole's (i have heard that even a meteor CAN fall on earth between 2010 and 2020). I'll be not suprised when even a nuclear war starts.

i heard the mayan calender ends then and a new one begins. maybe a new order after the war? but remember just like nostradamus it wont be true unless it happens and there is somebody left to record it

There's a reason why the calendar comes to an end when it does, which has been explained in this thread, but it's really not an end but a beginning. The Mayan calendar is a wheel, not a line.



Yep.

Worlds are not planets, but mental realms created by men (world of commerce, world of religion, world of...etc.). The end of the world might just be (as other bright stars in here mentioned) the end of a way of life - or relating to one another or life in general - and the beginning of something totally different. I'm putting my $ on that.

The Mayans are gone. Even if they said the world would end on this date (which they didn't), I wouldn't give the slightest care, as they were an ancient culture with very little knowledge of the world (compared to us).

It may be the end of the world for the human race as a whole, because of our foolish waste of the resources in the planet and our overpopulation, but then, another dominant form of animal could take over. They say that cockroaches lived even in the time of the dinosaurs and could outlive us. Perhaps something would evolve out of the cockroaches to rule the future planet, when we are gone.


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Beautiful .

Time can be drawn in many ways, but only one Golden Ratio.

And you are the winner! Atmospheric lift off will change the Earths delicate polarity balance causing what I said in the Nostradomus thread.

The Date is Nov. 13, 2012.

Nov. 13 '07' is the save date. Humanity has a choice to make this year only.

They've been lying to us for years, and 'chem-trails' were real= deflection of ultra violet rays(suffocating the Earth more).

Conversion is real, Peak Oil and the War in the Middle East, and Global Warming...go hand in hand.
Time has Come Today, and we will see if the word is listened to by our governmental and corporate captains.
That's the easy part, getting everyone to let go of their prejudices and recognize that we are all brothers and sisters......so we can end the divisiveness that causes us to take up arms against one another,, will be the tough part.
That, and telling a bunch sociopathic egomaniacs that we need to turn back the hands of time and slow down the Oil Paradigm to zero point as fast as possible.

Imagine, we collectively come together with our spiritual leaders and scientists, and give them all the proof they desire,, and they look over at you like this guy .
Yep, that is what we're up against.