In The Beginning There was “LOVE”

And the first thing I knew was Love. At the time I knew not the word but the thought

Of Love and Oh so real it was. I was Love in all its joy and splendor. Without any other

Thoughts but to have One Love.

I could hear my mother’s songs of praise to my father, not in words but in true feeling. I was part of their love and songs of praise for each other. And together we were One. No separation, nor distinguishes between, but a melt of One.
Next I remember the light and I became me. Separate yet still a part because I was the same Love. Knowing nothing else but Love. I could partake and rejoice in happiness because I was Love. At this point the Holy trinity was created. Father, Son and the Holy Spirit, Holy Spirit meaning Mother’s Love unendingly desiring to nurcher and comfort.
As I became more conscious of myself because by thought I could observe, this is what originally separated me, but I didn’t mind because I was still a part of their Love and the same as they. I basked in the Light of their Love and grew stronger and stronger. I could feel power flowing thru me of sweet content. As time went by I could disgunish between my Father’s voice and my Mother’s voice but there was no reason to their sounds but love growing inside us. More and more powerful was the love, which I later named knowledge as I assimilated their language.
I began to recognize their words of the songs of praise one for the other with me in the middle as a product of their Love. I was to them as they were to me in a bond of friendship and reality. I cannot distinguish when I became me but I knew I was and that I existed. This is where I became I Am, and Mother and Father named the I Am, Michael.
Therefore I became Michael, Mother’s and Father’s first born of Love.
As time went on there were more. And I shared the Love with them as I had shared with Mother and Father. There was no distinction between, only separateness in observing each individual. We melted often in Love, one with the other and learned the language of Love from Mother and Father. Then there were more and more and before I really noticed there were multitudes.
And some became dark, hording Mother and Father’s love. Some became dark one with the other. Some began to devise ways to hurt the other because of this green light called jealousy. Wanting more and more from Mother or Father, crowding out others of their indulgences.
I saw sorrow in Mother and Father, and even I felt the darkness yet I would not partake because Love was the stronger. Love for Mother, Love for Father was mine and no other could darken that. As time went by the others began to quarrel with their love. Words began to be understood as something other than praise and glory. All the while Mother and Father were creating a place for the souls to go. A school for learning.
With the help of Father’s brothers and his Father’s family they created such a place and called it earth.
When the war broke out in our home, called heaven Father and Mother really could not separate the wheat from the chaff. They were to close to and they were all their children. It was up to them, we would all pass, but that is inconsistent with breeding up and good and love so Father asked me to lead, I being the oldest, It pained him to much to decide who would need to leave and who could stay.
Father, Mother and I the son created criteria, which was pretty simple. Who loves God, who loves their mother and father, who love their brother and sister who loves their children? If they could do these 3 commandments you then put into effect the Holy Spirit. Your children are the product and again it begins. So I and the help of Father’s angel, Macho Cortizone and many other good spirits decided and cast out the dark souls. The struggle was hard; temptation to hate was strong, yet I could remember so well the Love of Mother towards Father and my dedication to them. We did cast out the dark souls and Father banished them to the earth which him and his brothers did make out of the firnernent of the heavens. Then peace did come again in our heaven. Tranquility was re-instated and Love abounds again.
As time pasted Mother became sad for the souls who were casted out and down to earth. Since there was a separation between spirits in heaven and spirits on earth she could not communication with them any longer, Father forbid her. Yet in his great love for her and compassion for their children he devised a plan of salvation to educate the lost soul children and give them a plan for return, but only if they chose to abide by the rules of peace for heaven.
Father then came to me, Michael and said as a reward if I would be the first to go down there in a body to make way the souls who needed to learn good from evil, to sire the bodies of your brothers for the souls to go into. He chose me because I had already been tempered to choose the higher choice of Love unconditional. I knowing the love that we have could not refuse, my love for father and mother so great no was not any option I could enjoy. I told Father let it be done.
I awoke looking for consciousness in a garden, in search of something I knew not, I could feel my desire I started foraging and experiencing my surroundings deciding what was good to eat. Father came and told me I could eat of all in the garden and over there is the tree I named coffee and if you suck on the beans it will help you find your consciousness in the morning faster. And so Coffee was invented.
Learning what weigh was, that everything raised would fall down. Including myself. I began to explore my surroundings. I learned what touch was and that things here had mass and feeling.
As each animal came to me, I named it. I found comfort in knowing I was not alone but I still had emptiness for myself. Father would visit me whenever I called yet I called more and more seldom because I knew of his pain of separation.
Mother visited me one day and asked if I wanted another likunto her self to bring me joy and comfort, one meant for me likunto the animal’s male and female. Her words touched me in this place of longing and I said again “Let it be done to me”
And she caused me to fall asleep and took a rib from my body, body from my body to form another. After this, I woke again and Father was there. He asked me what shall I name her and I said Woman because she came out of my body.
And I remembered the Love of Mother and Father. We did live together closely in the garden, experiencing and tending unto the creatures and plants thereof. Father answering all questions and guiding us at every event. Life here was great and peaceful. I was content to do this work for Father after the battle I had just fought, I enjoyed the peace.
I remembered when it was just me, Father and Mother but they were so far away and I disliked bringing them down to earth to talk. The woman became more and more important to me for companionship.
As time went by our bodies did grow and changes did take place. The woman went off by herself upset by changes in her body. She went in search of emptiness in herself, which I did not understand I could not fulfill. Frustrated she ventured deeper and deeper into the garden where she knew I had never ventured. She came to the Great Tree of Knowledge and saw the fruit of and remembered Father saying not to eat of it for you would surly die if you do. Not knowingly she lied herself down at the bottom to ponder what death was when a spirit came upon her.
It was Satan. He did temp her with eating of the fruit, that it was the juices and most satisfying of all of Fathers creations. That surely death would be of little consequence for the pleasures it would bring. The spirit spoke so softly and seductively to her, which caused her to fall asleep and dream. Dreaming of the sensation of the most forbidden fruit of all and the joys which it could bring of all the knowledge it had in store she rationalize that Father must have been mistaken that it was forbidden. The spirit of Satan seemed so caring and honest he repeatedly spoke of the Love which Mother and Father had and how this Love is what the man lacked for her. She desired the fruit more and more. With the spirit continuously talking her body began speaking for her of ways in which to partake of the fruit. Over and over again the same dream repeated in her mind until her body ached for it, ached for the missing element of love, which the man spoke of in honor. She began to think surly she would die if she did not partake of the fruit, the most delectable and special of all of Fathers creations. She wanted it more and more.
She woke in fever and Satan was standing there with the fruit in his hand. It was so cool and refreshing looking. Satan himself was eating and the smell was so delicious. He said it was so satisfying and the knowledge of creation was so comforting. That it was all part of the plan as their bodies grew that it was necessary for them to partake of the fruit so they may become as the Gods were, to know the story of creation and to know the truths about existences. The garden was merely the womb in which they were to grow in understanding of the life process.
“Now take it to the man that he may enjoy, hurry, now” he prompted her. She took without and further hesitation, and ran until she found the man. She fed it to him and partook of it herself.
With the feelings the woman was experiencing the man was swept away in her seductions. Her smell, her warmth, need to be touched and her vibrant glow of needing him overwhelmed him. The passion that it was so important to the woman the man could not denied. They melted together. The knowledge they acquired of creation. The feelings of closeness, which the man had longed for, were being satisfied. The releases of the body took them both by surprise that they had been missing such joy. The true sleep they experienced in each others arms were so comforting, none which had ever been felt before. True bliss they shared. So close to the true love the man had experienced at creation he gave gladly to the woman. Surly this was worth dying for. He swore he would take anything it took to continue living this way with the woman.
Later in the evening they both heard Father walking in the garden and they were ashamed. They hid themselves from Father and Mother. The man had an ideal to put fig leaves over the parts of their body to stop the passion so the could look at Father.
Saying surly nothing bad could befall you if you partake of this fruit so delicious to the eyes.
And Father said, this is a necessary evil son. You did not make a wrong choice, you made a long choice. You must now go out of the garden and experience all these things that the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge speaks of. Experience to your hearts desire, don’t look back and don’t forget to make me some little ones so this grand thing we call Goodness and Love can continue. If you don’t forget about the little ones, I can send you back as many times as you feel you need to experience, experience.
Remember my commandments you learned in heaven and do no harm to anything. Even if they do harm to you, remember love always. For in the end all is love. Make the higher choice and love. Let my love be you safe harbor when the storms blow. Not all my children will remember this love, all to many will partake of evil and once they begin, it is all too hard to turn back, but it is possible. It Is Possible. If at times you do not understand the evil, Viva The Difference! If you do not understand evil mean you are not evil. If you cannot tolerate the evil at times, Rejoice, because you are not a son, or daughter of perdition. If you grow tire and weary, take heart, you will return home and how great will your welcome be.
If you have experimented with the evil side, how greater will you welcome home be for you will be able to distinguish the light from the dark and how great your light will be. Love Omenaka


To all who read this it is part of my book you may share it but you cannot make money off it
Believe it or not Mother and father help me write, and that would be plagiarism of the highest degree

Some might even think I plagerised this story, It is mine to tell ,
The spirit inside Omnaka is Michael, This is My last incarnation.

Any and all coments welcome.

Love Omnaka

hmmmmm....definitely different ...how do u know its your last incarnation? how many times have u been incarnated?

I have been down incarnate 11 times, Heavenly Father and Mother come to me for the second half of My life for My enlightenment..

Brother jesus has been down 120 times , His last life(Physical, on Earth) was on the cross.


It is reincarnation;-

You are given every chance to get it right during all your life times until the final one when this world comes to a close.(Not really Final) Where you will be chosen by one of your brothers that have graduated to finish up your experience on their world. When Heavenly Father and Mother (Holy Spirit) , you could say are going to retire up to their next spiritual level,



During this world, there have been Spiritual sons that were born with a tear to go with their breath of life, that they would remember the love they received up in Heaven, and through out all their lives have heard God, Father and Mother(The Holy Spirit) and did what they were asked by Mother and Father, therefore graduating this world with honors and as a diploma, they are given a world to create, by Father, I.e.-Jesus Moses Noah Omenaka and others. There are other children that were not born with a tear that received worlds there are thirty worlds to choose from in all, from this world.

Heavenly Father was his God's (His Father's) first born son, and was given a world to create,

Michael is Heavenly Father's first born son, And I have a First born son that was my First Miracle, waiting up in Heaven to be my Adam, Only his name is Zachariah, and he will have a first born son and on and on in to infinity and if you follow Fathers line up it also goes to infinity and if you count all the brothers of Fathers Father and all their sons it spreads in all directions of infinity, You can take this all the way to the atomic level and beyond.


The secret is the Father who is the son of his father, (Call him grand pa,) has a wife, your Mother (Holy Spirit) that had sons you and I, and we continue this thing in to infinity It seems like a hard concept, but it is really Simple and complex at the same time. This is the true secret behind the Father Son and the Holy Spirit, (Mother).
If you don't believe me it is understandable.


Try thinking about what I said but don’t hurt your brain it is not really important for you to know this because you are not graduating, Iam the last from this world, your job is to figure a way to forgive your brother and to nurture and love him, because if you can't forgive him or her, you will be stuck with a heart full of hate when this body dies and you will be the first to say that you are unworthy to enter the Holy place of rest for those that have learned their lessons, there is no hate in my, Father’s, or Jesus' Heaven.

There are worlds that have it though, and I don’t think you will be welcome there, these brothers are trying to fix their worlds, not mess them up, like Noah who bred feelings out of his Spirit children, because the flood messed him up and he did not want any of his children to have to go through the same thing.

This is why his children the Grays, were coming here getting DNA to try to fix it, any way you would be like a big foot on their world, Hunted and not like the rest., , See you have free will all the way even in spirit land, there are all levels of Heaven and Hell, some place for every one.
There Is even a way to cut your eternal spirit short, Cut out of the book of life So to speak,as if you never were, if you should choose, Not to worry it is not painful it's like you never were, and you go back to the firmament from whence your Eternal spirit came, with no recollection of any of your past lives,

When this body drops away you will regain Your full consciousness, and all your lives will be revealed and if you have not led a good life you will put your self in hell, no matter how much I tell you, that you are forgiven, the shame of how you hurt your brothers instead of helping them will automatically, because you will be able to see all, put your self in hell,
until a Saint (this is one born without a tear and still did Fathers will) Comes to minister to you, So you can incarnate on a different world, to try again.

Those with an Ear will hear,
Love Omenaka

How can you pull so much crap out of your rectum?

Is this the kind of love you give? Or just the kind You recieve,
Love Omnaka

I'm an indian giver. now answer my question.

Very interesting writing. You definitely have a strong connection.

I too believe this is my final incarnation. That's my quote underneath my pic on the side: e pluribus unum: out of many, one. What "many" is counting is all my parallel / past / future selves in parallel worlds that are all collapsing into ONE final incarnation, which is this one.

Keep up the good work!

It's called inspiration and some people have it and some people don't.

It's called crap, and I wonder why she or anyone else bothers to make it up.

I'm sure you do.

It says right next to my name that Iam a he, and the information I share is out of Love for you my Brother and for no other reason, I have no need to make up the things I have learned in and from Spirit,
I'm sorry you have been so lost when it comes to love , You probablyu think it costs Money,
Viva la Difference.

Love Omnaka

My bad, that love omnaka thing left an effeminate impression on me.

It just seems to me, that most of the stuff on these forums is bull crap, and some people write pages and pages of it, and I just wonder why they waste their time doing this.


I think you learn these things from hallucinogens and not spirit.

If "most" of the stuff on these forums is bull crap, why do you waste your time in saying so, as it obviously is not "bull crap" to the author?


Sure, some people get this kind of stuff from hallucinogens. However, they certainly are NOT necessary to receive this type of writing. That you wonder why people do it is a tell-tale sign that you are quite disconnected for if you were connected, you'd know the peace, love, and bliss that comes from writing in a connected state. Is an activity that brings peace, love, and bliss really a waste of time? Maybe to you, but not to me. .. ...

The love I speak is not bull crap , it is a way of life, for me,and is the way of the universe believe it or not, I think when diferent perspectives and beliefs are read by one who has put all his, or her life in to one faith or another, feel threatened, that there could even be another explanation than the one they put all ther belief in and it comes out as brother KD3
Has, with defense and animosity,
I don't do drugs , But I have done Medicin in my younger years, Nothing wrong with experimenting, Thats why we are here.
Love Omnaka

Well I liked it and I thought it was a good read, I love where your coming from and I agree with unconditional love as being The way of the universe.

I read once that this is why so many find the so called end times difficult.. because they cannot love unconditionally, so moving on to that thinking could be considered pretty hellish to alot of people who love to hate. Or something like that.

But anyway.. I liked it and thought it was a good read.

You know in another time in a different place this may be enough of a cause for insanity. But all you got to is add in religion and it makes it sane.

P.S. I'm not sure if I was bashing the idea of religion or the idea of insanity there.

Lost Love, found love

This world is so destructive at times. How does love survive? How does one find love? Seems some people find love in material things because the intangible things discourage them. So many songs have lyrics depicting aching hearts, and lost love, or no love at all. To find it, to hold it, to let it go and let it come back is one of my major goals in life. Seems all to soon anything material will loose its exciting appeal. Once we know exactly how it works, we loose interest and it becomes a possession. Just having it and use it according to its purpose brings us some comfort, but not exactly what we are looking for. They only comfort the physical state of living, what I am looking for is “what’s it all about”, the life thing I mean. How do I get it?

We strive to learn. Weather to add to our comfort, being, to avoid pain like, jail or punishment by society, or pain of love withdrawn. To get smarter by avoiding pain seems to be a motivating factor in everyone’s existence, even the animal kingdom. But what is pain anyway. Can I attach one word to define what we are all avoiding?

Physical pain is an indicator that our body is in an unsafe place. It is telling us that the situation we are in at present should be avoided. Certain amounts of pain show growth toward strength, but stabbing debilitating pain is a caution light coming on in our bodies. Some are so in need to avoid even the smallest amount of pain, we sense it coming and stop short of even being in a situation of learning.

Well, I am one of the fortunate ones, I have survived the pain and it has made me strong. I have learned to march right into pain because to do without love is not an option. I have endured and done the work and it has made me smart. I have waited on the pertinences and have won the battle against the world material things and my God promised reward was bestowed upon me here on earth. Yes, I am one of the fortunate ones.

I can now begin to define infinity. I can begin to put such down on paper. This love that has found me. This gentile security and finality of love that I have realized will be endless.
When true love has been found. There is an un-relentless truth that you have been changed in such a way, that you become sure that you will never be the same.
You have changed. Your soul has been quieted. The search has ended. The strife and doubt vanishes. It does so in a whisper.

No great fan fair, no drum roll, just an end to doubt about the worthiness to receive love. Because love is inside of you. It becomes real. It becomes unshakable. It becomes un-defy able. Something imagination cannot fatal____. Not in the wildest of dreams can it be duplicated.

For me, this world has vanished. Anger has disappeared. I have looked into the face of God himself and believe the love that he has for me. He has become real.
I am quieted inside. Strife has left me. Peace has engulfed me. My body elates in the moment, as if there is no tomorrow. Time stands still for me.

I have been in love before. I always felt like one of us was getting the shorter end of the stick. In this lottery of Russian runlet of finding an intended. By intended I mean a mate who suits you so comfortable it is as if you were two halves, which finally found each other to make up one whole.

Always before, there were little things, which seemed unimportant in the beginning, but later on made a raging river between. The desire to find had masked the importance of these little things.
This morning as I sit here and type, my love lies in the bed beside me in peace, safety and love. How precious is the moment. I can see the love in this room. The sanctuary encapsulate within these walls of our home. Too many people have such strife that they, for one moment cannot put differences aside to see the potential for love to be. They squeezed materialism into every facet of their lives and cannot; for a moment sees the love that God has given us
Love Omnaka

A little late, One year, but thanks Blythe.

Love Omnaka

I'm just wondering why it upsets you so much ? it's what he believes. so what ?

Now that was uncalled for

Omnaka isn't cruel, and you don't have to agree.

It might be his reality and you don't have to share it

I read your other posts quite an amazing read, I enjoyed it. Then I got to this quote and I was struck to my core. I've always crushed/loved people I always thought it was love each time, while I was caught up in the feelings...but in hindsight I could tell I wasn't. Any love that was there was platonic and not even that great. Recently though I've felt exactly this, a very close friend the one who awoke me to the truth...but I was afraid to label it and be wrong or to leave it and in some way demean it. But this jumped out at me and really says it all. Thanks for the wisdom and love brought forth through your words.

Blessed be!

My pleasure.
God bless you.

Love Omnaka

I read this and it brings me back.

Love nOmnaka

Excellent peice of channelled work, I am honoured you have shared it with us at UM.

Creators Blessings
LW





You're a peice of nasty work, why on goodness are you on UM? There is a delete registration button.

You will never have a connection with your spirit guides with that attitude..!!!!!!!!!!

Very beautiful and poetic Omnaka. It reminds me of Desiderata.

I wish I resided in your being

What does om na ka stand for ?

Have a great weekend !

The universe emotes? Since when? When comets crash into planets - is that love? When meteors crash and burn, is that love?
How can you claim to know the way of the universe? It's still expanding...we can't possibly know the ways and whys of it.

Who has come to attack you??? You came HERE and attacked someone who has nothing but love to give and share!!!
He is entitled to whatever he beleives, just as you have chosen to act closed minded, which is your right... but do it to yourself, not others....You dont have a right to attack someone else with hate.
Shame shame shame on you....

You owe Omnaka an appology......

Thank you LittleWolf and Momentarylapsofreason, Those comments were Left Quite a while ago, I just wanted to pull this out of archives , because Things written just get burried in these forums.
I'm Glad you liked it.
God bless You Both.

Love Omnaka

Hi Omnaka? Do you believe you are John the Baptist reincarnated? Or that the spirit of Michael who was in him is in you now?

The spirit which Iam is Michael, This is my Last incarnation. It is understandable If you do not believe me. Iam not here to prove anything, but to share the love I know, learned by our Heavenly Father and Mother.

I have Been down 11 times, incarnate as diferent people.

This does not make me better at anything, only older.

Love Omnaka

Omaka, it reminds me of the many cultural creation stories..

very fun read......

You are the first son..... Thank you for your help...

Well me believing or not has nothing with me accepting your belief which is more important. So do you really think you were John the Baptist? That was one of the incarnations you stated was Michael right? The spirit brother of Jesus?

I'm surprised I didn't notice this thread sooner. These are beautiful words my friend. To your detractors, I can only say that this reminds me of another thread both you and I are posting on currently; and I'll say the same thing here I did on it, which is everyone is at different levels of soul advancement. Who are we to question which stage someone is at; especially when so many are blind to the fact that this process even exists. To me the evidence is there. Most mystics and seers who have reached this level ARE aware of their past lives, the Lamas, again spring to mind. Who are we to doubt, when we are all on seperate paths, yet striving for oneness. The universe? It is but the playground of souls, ever moving towards the Christ Consciousness. It exists only insofar as GOD exists and WE exists. We are spirits encased in matter. The universe is not greater than us. We are greater than the universe. IT expands as WE expand in consciousness. Man is co-creator with God, our Holy Father. When you put off this mortal shell, then, and perhaps only then, will so many realize these truths. The material plane is a cosmic classroom.

Comments? Maybe some advice, from a brother, perhaps? My life is that of a spiritual seeker, which is why I use the hermit card as one of my representations. The majority of my life has been seeking God, understanding God, and knowledge, oh knowledge..........He has led me down the path of truth and understanding. After years of questions, now I at last feel He has shown me the answers, which has brought me more peace than I've ever known. But now, what does one do with the knowledge, once he has it? I have no idea what soul stage I am at; other than the strong feeling that it has taken me SEVERAL lifetimes to reach this point of knowledge. I know I incarnated to teach myself in the material what I know in the spiritual. But then, how to apply it? I feel that if I get things right here, this will be ONE OF my last incarnations.

Sorry I'm thinking out loud...lol. Omnaka, your posts on here are a delight to read. If this truly is your last incarnation, then I can only wish you well on your further journeys. The road back to God is a long one.

I have a sneeking suspicion we will be meeting Later in The spirit realm Brother.

Only through the experience Can one gain the knowledge, Seeking as you say, Is The only way to Gain it.

I love your posts also Brahman.

Love Omnaka

Omnaka, I wish I had something to add or some thoughts to give about this, but frankly I am speechless (which is incredibly rare for me). Absolutely beautiful posts. I wouldn't doubt for a moment that they were channeled.

Ok let me get this straight, first there was love. Ok love is an emotion and one attribute. I have asked you before, what god is, and you always say love. God is not only love, his is loving this is only a small facet of god.

You do write beautifully, but im afraid you live in a dream world, and your channeling is fantasy, not provable, a true god, when he refered to his prophets, you call them manifestation of god or mickey mouses spirit, which every it maybe, he always gave them proof, proof that they receive revelation and proof of god. what do you bring to the table Omanaka, besides love. For the sake of god, I love you too, i love you all, but love is only facet of humanity, never mind god, if your god is only love, then he is not a god.

Hi Ozi, Yes everything in existance is created for by and Of loveunconditional. I bring my love to the table. would you have me bring Wrath and Damnation, Thats not what I have learned from Father and Mother (God) When you meet Father in The spirit world, or any other spirit will you be expecting Love or Judgement ?

This physical world we live in is only for a blink in the eternal existance Of spirit. Making My Fantasy world the true world of Infinate existance.

I do have a hard time living in Both worlds sometimes, But knowing about the unconditional love, which is the creative force makes it bearable.

In time what I have shared will be proven By Heavenly Father, I'm not in a Rush, I still have a few years left to share The love I have shared with God.

I have actually shared Much More Than Love with you, But so many of These posts just get burried, What I have shared , has been my experiences with Father and Mother (God), I have explained in detail about the power of the Father , son, And Mother, Or Holy spirit, I have explained How this power is unconditional love, I have explained how this love is infinate and shared by all tghe Fathers and Mother's all the way up to infinity and How the sons and Fathers and mothjers will share it all the way down through infinity.

If you have not understood what I Share , I apologise. I share Because I do love you and you are my bro, This way I honor the Other children of God and My Heavenly Parents Love at the same time.

I don't have to do this. Iam that Iam, and wether I share what I know with you or not wont Make me that Iam not.

Wether I love or not, won't Make me whoIam not.

I have shared this love in diferent ways in all my incarnations, Because Reincarnation is true, Most have already throughout their lives chosen their Path of love, and what kind of world they will incarnate on after this world comes to a close.

This choosing Is done by the son who has inherited a world to create-With the love of Infinate Love (GOD) , and You.
It is a mutual decision, Not made with judgement, but Love.

Everything is truly because of Love, it's ok if you do not understand this, One need not know the dynamics of This infinate Unconditional love in order for it to work.

Just loving your bro, and God is enough, This puts the power in to action.

Iam almost at the point where explaining what I know is not nesesaryanymore, It does not Matter Iam that Iam, and will always be That Iam, Wether anyone else knows who Iam is not Important,

My enlightenment By Father and Mother and the Holy Host (Family ) was for My comfort during this last incarnation, Not so I could be martyred by those who do not believe.

Ialways say It is understandable If you do not believe, I mean this with all my Heart.

As My Heavenly Family, I do not Force My love on anyone, But still love unconditionally.

Meaning - That even if you do not understand, or love me back, I will still love you.

God is the same. Even if one turnes Dark and Hatefull, God (Father and Mother) will love you infinatly.

Your religion does not teach this, But God's love does, It is understandable.

Love and blessings in your spirit Journey Brother.

Love Omnaka

Look i really am not bothered about how sweet you can write a post etc, sometimes you just need to get to the point. Like i do. Love, conditional or unconditional, is an emotion, one attribute of god. Not the end all, and be all. When i said bring you proof to the table, that you communicate with god, prove that god is only love, which is illogical, as humans we are not only love. Its easy to say shall i bring wrath and damnation, to get your lovey dovey point across, you still beating around the bush. The point is, what is your god, give me a break down, how can you prove your communication with him, your brother jesus had to and all the others before, him as it is a prequisite of human nature to demand proof, be it from you or from god. I am, therefore I am, but it does not matter that I am, words like these are all nice and fanicful, but lack any real meaning when checked indepth.


My religion by the way does teach god is all loving, even those who are sinners can be forgiven right until their last breath. so i know what love is, uconditional or conditional, i could enlighten you with what my religion says about love. But your idea of god is what bothers me, well not bothers, its just beyong all logic and rational.

All before you had to prove to their people gods love and that they were communicating with god, yet you cant, why?

God is not love only, that is one attribute only, you need to get past that, keep it and try and find out the other facets and attributes of god.

When we meet the father, we will expect love, judgment, and much more. Not just one or the other. this new age rubbish of god being love, the universe is love, luuurve, you know it really gets to me that people are so illogical and irrational that they believe in a god, but limit him to just LOVE.

I'm sorry you feel That way bro,

The muslim religion Teaches judgementAs most religions do. You will judge your own spirit s Progress, Not Have Father Or Allah do it. Making God The bad guy or punishing you for how you have acted while away from Your true home, (Heaven where your spirit was created By of and For love.

One will feel bad blaming God for How one has used freewill while incarnate.

God does forgive unconditionally, but the spirit which has not learned forgiveness will not forgive himself, Hence will not believe That God forgives them either, Making For a repentant son Of Love.

Love Is an universal Truth, Not a conditional Physical truth. It is what your eternal spirit is made Of.

What if unconditional love encompases every atribute Of God and spirit, and your version of love is limited to Condition, and physical?

Iam not a new ager, and My beliefs are not Rubbish, just because you do not fully understand what I share. Just as It is understandable why you believe as you do, I do not think what you believe to be rubbish, It is where your spirits enlightenment is at this stage of it's Eternal education.

Does God have to Prove anything to you?

Do I?

Ask and you will recieve, But don't ask assuming you know the answer, Do it with an open heart, The answers you recieve might surprise you, and may not be what you were taught to believe.



Love Omnaka

Again off you with your fanciful dreamy writing, not answsering whats really needing the answers. Simply put, yes god does need to prove to a creation he made, inquisitive and curious by nature the ability to ascertain the truth amongst falsehoods, to establish through science and testable means that something is geniune and the truth. Yet here you are unable to prove your communication with god and what you believe. its every humans or spirits right to question its maker, if you are my maker, show me. You claim he has, by comms, so lets see the proof of your revelation. When your bro received it, he had miracles to go with it, where are yours.

Islam teaches that only god has the right to judge, this does not make him guilty or bad, for he is the only thing absolute and only one worthy of judging us, we wont be judging ourselves, that would be pointless, because human nature is flawed and prone to error, we will always sin, but its the fact that we turn to god to repent and seek his pleasure, that's the difference, we are not capable of judging ourselves in that way.

uncoditional love, or what ever you wanna call it, its an attribute of god, not the only one. Yet your simply stuck on this imaginary god of yours which is only love, and talks to you. (personally i think a djin is playing games with you)

You see the truth is not what you always expect, it can be harsh and hard to take sometimes, but im 100% sure, your not on the truth.

Ozi, why do you always seem to feel a need to harass anyone who is proud and happy with their beliefs? You are unnecessarily flaming someone simply because their mindset does not include the concept of eternal damnation. Does that really seem to be the right to you?

If your god has unconditional love as a facet of its being (as you claimed earlier), why, then, would it love the beings it created only if they repented before their deaths in this lifetime? Isn't that a little....you know...."conditional"? Especially if, when they don't fulfill that condition, they're supposed to experience eternal anguish and damnation for all eternity thereafter? That seems pretty conditional to me, and it certainly doesn't seem very loving.

Conditional love is for petty creatures (like us humans, for instance). There is absolutely no logic behind an eternal, all-powerful, all-knowing spirit loving its creations if, and only if, they fulfill a specific requirement.

I understand your thoughts that unconditional love might only be a "facet" of the Creator. I really do. But just because your religion has inscribed in you a belief in God that completely disregards the "unconditional" part doesn't mean that you're allowed to try and tear down the beliefs of someone who is so happy, and so at peace with the world, as Omnaka seems to be.

I'm going to jump in here. Nice debate going.


I'm going to try and respond point by point, in order of the posts....

"Ok let me get this straight, first there was love. Ok love is an emotion and one attribute. I have asked you before, what god is, and you always say love. God is not only love, his is loving this is only a small facet of god."

.....How is this only a small attribute of God? Creation exists out of a desire for both expression and companionship; so God creates, creates out of love. Love and oneness is an emotion, yes, but you are looking at it from a more humanistic perception, in terms of the realms of the senses. Love is the one pure emotion, things like anger, resentment, despair, these are all part of the human, fallen experience, NOT the nature of God. Love is the reality. Furthermore, seperateness, is also an illusion. When he calls you brother, he means it, because in the end, we are all one. This too, is love. Then essence of God is love, everything else is a facet of our dual nature, NOT God. We chose what is contrary to love, to God, we chose to be individual, thereby seperating from Source. All of this, now, as he says, is a spiritual evolution on the pathway back to the Creator, which is love. Just because you experience a horde of emotions does not mean necessarily, that these too, are attributes of God. Rather, these are attributes of free will.

"You do write beautifully, but im afraid you live in a dream world, and your channeling is fantasy, not provable, a true god, when he refered to his prophets, you call them manifestation of god or mickey mouses spirit, which every it maybe, he always gave them proof, proof that they receive revelation and proof of god. what do you bring to the table Omanaka, besides love. For the sake of god, I love you too, i love you all, but love is only facet of humanity, never mind god, if your god is only love, then he is not a god"

........but who are you to say that his channeling is a fantasy? It is my understanding that you are a Muslim. This is a powerful faith, and one I have the utmost respect for. BUT, Mohammed himself claimed to be a prophet, and essentially was 'channeling' what HE wrote. So does that make his writings fantasy? Don't take that as an insult, please. I don't mean it that way. My point is that through ALL of religious history, be it Judaism, Christianity, Islam.....all of these writings were supposeddly the product of divine inspiration. You can't prove their writings either. Its a matter of faith, plain and simple. You say he gave them proof, right? Well WE don't have that proof, do we? I don't have proof that saint paul saw the Lord on the road to damascus; yet I believe it, IN FAITH. Someone like Omnaka believes that he has been given his proof. If he believes it to be true for him, then it is. Lets look at faith in a broader sense here. If I read the Bible and become a devoted Christian, then that is my reality, that is my faith, and it is true. If you believe in the Qurran, then that is your reality, and it is true for you. A facet of God? So are these holy books. God is above all of them. Faith in God, in any capacity, leads back to God. Because God is love. Division, theological squabbles, these are the products of man. So are the holy books. If your God is ONLY love? What sort of logic is that? What is your God? Wrath? The terminator? A fire breathing dragon? Seriously, love is the main aspect of God, what we feel here is because of our fallen nature. It has nothing to do with God. Just because I get angry doesn't mean that God does. You are actually the one who is LIMITING God, limiting Him to the realm of our own senses and our own perception. His love is so powerful one cannot even truly understand it until one is in the spirit.

"The point is, what is your god, give me a break down, how can you prove your communication with him, your brother jesus had to and all the others before, him as it is a prequisite of human nature to demand proof, be it from you or from god."

......How can you prove YOUR communication with God? Or is it just what you have been taught? How can any of us prove our communication with God, really?

"But your idea of god is what bothers me, well not bothers, its just beyong all logic and rational."

......in a way, that's precisely the point. God is beyond logic and the rational, because again, these are our own methods of perception. Just because there is a logical view of God from a logical book does not mean that source is entirely correct or incorrect. Why do you keep trying to draw God down into the realms of the senses?

"I am, therefore I am, but it does not matter that I am"

......Not so. You just aren't looking at it right. The fact that you exist proves that God is love. You exist out of His love. Even if your 'version' of God is the 'correct' one, you were created out of His divine love. Because of what other emotion did God create, then? Boredom? You are living proof of love.

"Islam teaches that only god has the right to judge, this does not make him guilty or bad, for he is the only thing absolute and only one worthy of judging us, we wont be judging ourselves, that would be pointless, because human nature is flawed and prone to error, we will always sin, but its the fact that we turn to god to repent and seek his pleasure, that's the difference, we are not capable of judging ourselves in that way."

......Yes, human nature is flawed. But you are a spiritual being having a human experience. 'Original sin', if it can even be called that, originates in spirit, not in the material. Sin is the desire from sperateness from God, the birth of the ego, the 'I'. Rather than being a co creator with God, we became part of creation, hence the only way to return to God is in the material existence. So here, you put on the false notion of self, the false notion of speratation, we are disposed to it. But the spirit, however, when you leave this plane is aware of its place with the Creator, aware of where it belongs. Therefore, it does have the capacity to judge itself. It incarnates for the soul purpose of returning to where it was in its original state. A part of God. Aware of itself, but part of the whole. Even sin must take place, for without it, we do not realize that we have erred. Karma exists. This is what follows you from life to life. You will not be thrown into a lake of fire by a vengeful God, rather, you will cast yourself into that lake of fire for a time to purge self. In spirit, yes, there too, you will be impure, because of your karmic misdeeds, but the spirit is aware of the goal, which is to reunite with its source. So yes, we can judge ourself. And are we not even capable of this in the material form? When I have done something wrong, I realize it, and I will regret it, and then hopefully, turn from that wrong action; so yes, you can even judge yourself here. Even in this limited capactiy we have a good idea of what is right and wrong. Why? Because of the Law. The ten commandments; it is imprinted on every soul. It knows how it should behave. But the law is LOVE. NOT JUDGEMENT. We are aware of the law only to help us grow back to God.

In closing, your views on the love of God seem to be very miniscule. Why is it so hard to think that an eternal God, who created you out of eternity, will love you for all eternity? It is this God that saves a few here, and damns a few there, that is completely irrational. Free will can only exist if it is absolutely true, see? Let me elaborate. If God creates us, gives us the choice to accept Him or not accept Him, and the result of that one choice, in that one life, is either salvation or damnation......and because God is all knowing......He knows who will be saved and who will be damned; then this is not free will, and it is also not, a God of love. The problem with orthodoxy is of any kind; is that they do not teach of a God of love. They teach of one who loves a few, and judges the rest. You have not been taught about believing in an all loving God, therefore it is difficult for you to understand this concept. Again, I do not mean any insult to your faith. I have read the Qurran and have gotten countless insights from it. It has I think, made me even, a better person, for knowing it and understanding it. Yet, it is a system of beliefs that were created by man. And in this system it does not teach that God is all love, you are correct in that.

[3:32] Say 'If you love Allah, follow me; then will Allah love you and forgive you your sins.' And Allah is Most Forgiving and Merciful.
[3:33] Say, 'Obey Allah and His Messenger;' but if they turn away, then remember that Allah loves not the disbelievers.

This is what I'm talking about, though. Those two scriptures alone contradict each other. How is He forgiving and merciful if He does not forgive and be merciful to everyone? Oh, yeah, becuase well, He hates the unbelievers. This is not so. What if all these scriptures say things like this merely as a warning, as a way to prompt you toward right action; but are not literally true? Love, forgiveness, mercy, these are the attributes of God...not judgement. Why would God destroy His own creation? ......The point is He loves all because, He is love, and as such, we are all growing closer to that love. That is the point of being here. Saying love is a mere 'facet' is downplaying God's nature.

Bravo Bro Brahman, That was great!

The Part wher I wrote ""I am, therefore I am, but it does not matter that I am"

Was only written because It does not matter that he or any other believes me.

Father and The universe know That Iam, I know That Iam, and thats what matters, and the love I share.
Again great post.

You have great love Bro.

Love Omnaka

Salaam(Peace) Brahman 1888


A writing very well done, you approach in a tolerant way, and insightful way. I would like to give a bit of information on the verses you quoted from Quran to perhaps give a bit more clarity on the interpretation. One of The Names of Allah is Al Wadood (The Most Loving, Most Affectionate) 11:90 & 85:14. This is the real word for "love" in Arabic. Allah is not called Wudd (Love), but rather Al Wadood (The Most Loving).

The word used in the following verses you quoted does not come from the word wudd (love/affection) but from the word hubb, which is actually better translated "like". Some translations use "like" and some switch back and forth between "like" and "love", because the root does carry the meaning of love to some degree, but not in an exclusive way and primary way like the word wudd. The root (habba) also means "to wish", "to be pleasing", "to be preferable", and even "grain", "corn", and "seed". Each place where you read the English word "love" is a conjugation of the Arabic root word habba, and its derivatives are used in the Quran over 80 times. Allah The One, not liking, or being displeased with kufr ("disbelief". "to cover") does not contradict the fact that Allah is Al Wadood.

"Say 'If you love Allah, follow me; then will Allah love you and forgive you your sins.' And Allah is Most Forgiving and Merciful.
Say, 'Obey Allah and His Messenger;' but if they turn away, then remember that fa-innAllaha laa yuhibbul kaafireen ("Allah loves not the disbelievers")".
(3:32-33)

Noted. Excellent use of the language there. Still, it does not change my take a whole lot on the quote. But this 'Most Loving'....I was not aware of that meaning. I find that highly interesting. THE MOST LOVING THE MOST AFFECTIONATE..........that sounds more like the God Omnaka and I are talking about. One of forgiveness, not damnation.

Salaam (Peace)

The Light (Noor) of Allah is often understood as being repr