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=Jak=
This topic only for those who believe there is a god...

Everyone may ask why god is in hell.. You can answer it.. reason is simple.
truethat
Because he killed GOD?
Omnaka
QUOTE(j4jak @ Nov 28 2006, 05:49 AM) [snapback]1441510[/snapback]

This topic only for those who believe there is a god...

Everyone may ask why god is in hell.. You can answer it.. reason is simple.

God himself, Father does not go in to hell, thats what he has saints for.
Love Omnaka
=Jak=
QUOTE(Omnaka @ Nov 28 2006, 11:33 AM) [snapback]1441530[/snapback]

God himself, Father does not go in to hell, thats what he has saints for.
Love Omnaka


I define pain feeling as hell.. If his loving saint go to hell... Did god feel happy about that?
=Jak=
QUOTE(truethat @ Nov 28 2006, 11:33 AM) [snapback]1441528[/snapback]

Because he killed GOD?


Are you considering a person born with abilities of god... and got killed. If your belief system say so.. we can consider that too as a reason.
KingDrakethe3rd
QUOTE(BabelPlatz @ Nov 28 2006, 06:19 AM) [snapback]1441544[/snapback]

..........Profanitys edited..........


Sucks that he made us in his own image.
JMPD1
....or vice versa........
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(KingDrakethe3rd @ Nov 28 2006, 08:31 AM) [snapback]1441684[/snapback]

Sucks that he made us in his own image.

I don't believe God made man in his own image. When you step back and look at what is destroying the world as we know it, all that creates destruction, all that kills the enviorment, all that kills animals for sport and a few of these animals are soon to become extinct, the same thing that brought a killing disease/virus into our midst...(ie AIDS..the saying goes...AIDS is like Nylon - Man Made!!)... the same kind that created destructive weapons to destroy, the same kind that every time you switch on the news, has raped and killed.....the most deadliest thing ever placed on this earth...is MAN...it's hard to believe God the creator..created man in the image as himself.

IMO God is not in the image of MAN...God is a force of energy..a spirit if you will..but not in the form of man..it doesnt make sense. It was man that claimed God made us in his form...a theory..thats it.!!
Paranoid Android
QUOTE(j4jak @ Nov 28 2006, 05:08 PM) [snapback]1441534[/snapback]

I define pain feeling as hell..
I guess it then comes down to your definition of hell. My definition of hell is different, more based on what the Bible actually says. I do not think God is in hell.
draconic chronicler
QUOTE(Beckys_Mom @ Nov 28 2006, 06:06 AM) [snapback]1441790[/snapback]

I don't believe God made man in his own image. When you step back and look at what is destroying the world as we know it, all that creates destruction, all that kills the enviorment, all that kills animals for sport and a few of these animals are soon to become extinct, the same thing that brought a killing disease/virus into our midst...(ie AIDS..the saying goes...AIDS is like Nylon - Man Made!!)... the same kind that created destructive weapons to destroy, the same kind that every time you switch on the news, has raped and killed.....the most deadliest thing ever placed on this earth...is MAN...it's hard to believe God the creator..created man in the image as himself.

IMO God is not in the image of MAN...God is a force of energy..a spirit if you will..but not in the form of man..it doesnt make sense. It was man that claimed God made us in his form...a theory..thats it.!!


You are probably right, and there is a lot of scriptural evidence as to what the Biblical God's form may actually be like:

1. The Sumerian prototype for the Hebrew God, complete with sacred trees of eternal life and world drowning, has among other titles, that of "Great Dragon".

2.Before Christians "rewrote the bible", the highests of heavenly creatures, and the only ones who could withstand God's presence and group around his throne are called seraphim, which means fiery flying serpents, or "dragons" as the word was translated to Greek from Hebrew by early Christians.

3. One of the highest heavenly servants (Satan) is described as a fiery red dragon, exactly as the other seraphim.

4. The Zoroastrian Persians plainly state in their scriptures that the God of the Christians and Jews is an enormous dragon.

5. God is constantly described in the Bible as spewing fire from his mouth and smoke from his nostrils EXACTLY like the dragons in the Bible.

6. The ancient Christians were largely of Greek heritage, and accepted the idea of God having a human son, because the greatest living man prior to Jesus was alexander the great, who they believe had a similar miraculous birth when God took the form of a winged serpent or dragon and raped Alexander's mother, thus creating the greatest man prior to Jesus. There is little doubt many early Christians believed the same thing happened to bring Jesus into the world.

7. And besides, God would have had no idea what humans would finally look like until evolution turned them into what we know today. A dragon-like form suggests a lifeform going back perhaps 200 million years.

8. In the Apocolypes of Baruch, an ancient Christian scripture, Baruch is taken to heaven and he asks about a huge dragon he sees there and the angel says that the dragon consumes the souls of the wicked, and that the belly of the dragon is Hell. So back to the original post, it may not be that God is IN Hell, but that God may BE Hell!

I could go on and on, but that's enough for now. wink2.gif
IamsSon
ummm, because he's omnipresent.
cloud0729
QUOTE(draconic chronicler @ Nov 28 2006, 07:48 PM) [snapback]1442753[/snapback]

You are probably right, and there is a lot of scriptural evidence as to what the Biblical God's form may actually be like:

1. The Sumerian prototype for the Hebrew God, complete with sacred trees of eternal life and world drowning, has among other titles, that of "Great Dragon".

2.Before Christians "rewrote the bible", the highests of heavenly creatures, and the only ones who could withstand God's presence and group around his throne are called seraphim, which means fiery flying serpents, or "dragons" as the word was translated to Greek from Hebrew by early Christians.

3. One of the highest heavenly servants (Satan) is described as a fiery red dragon, exactly as the other seraphim.

4. The Zoroastrian Persians plainly state in their scriptures that the God of the Christians and Jews is an enormous dragon.

5. God is constantly described in the Bible as spewing fire from his mouth and smoke from his nostrils EXACTLY like the dragons in the Bible.

6. The ancient Christians were largely of Greek heritage, and accepted the idea of God having a human son, because the greatest living man prior to Jesus was alexander the great, who they believe had a similar miraculous birth when God took the form of a winged serpent or dragon and raped Alexander's mother, thus creating the greatest man prior to Jesus. There is little doubt many early Christians believed the same thing happened to bring Jesus into the world.

7. And besides, God would have had no idea what humans would finally look like until evolution turned them into what we know today. A dragon-like form suggests a lifeform going back perhaps 200 million years.

8. In the Apocolypes of Baruch, an ancient Christian scripture, Baruch is taken to heaven and he asks about a huge dragon he sees there and the angel says that the dragon consumes the souls of the wicked, and that the belly of the dragon is Hell. So back to the original post, it may not be that God is IN Hell, but that God may BE Hell!

I could go on and on, but that's enough for now. wink2.gif


1.) Not sure how you can compare what the Sumerians think about God being a "Great Dragon" because they believed in multiple gods, not just one.

2.) Where did you get this information from?

3.) Correct.

4.) How can Zoroastrians say that the Christian God is a dragon when christianity was influenced by judaism, which was influenced by zoroastrism?

5.) Please show what verses you're talking about.

6.) Possible that God took FORM of a dragon.

7.) Evolution is based on as much faith as religion is, basically making evolution a religion. Also, where did you see anything about people evolving from a dragon-like form?

8.) Please show the verses.


Venomshocker
QUOTE(IamsSon @ Nov 29 2006, 03:22 AM) [snapback]1442865[/snapback]

ummm, because he's omnipresent.


Right on the money! devil.gif clap.gif
Heru
QUOTE(Venomshocker @ Nov 30 2006, 03:57 PM) [snapback]1445122[/snapback]

Right on the money! devil.gif clap.gif


Well my God has a omnipresent cloak so your god cant be where my god is. My god also has anti god rockets and destroys your god. He also created a time rift and traveled before there was time and is now the oldest thing. I win, my religion owns yours.

And Judaism didnt come from old zoro. It can only have come from two possible locations egypt or Ur (Sumerian mythology). Alot of people lean toward Egypt.
And I think he means satan in christianity came from zoro.

But who cares my religion is the only true religion and your gods are nothing but demons. (Thats how we played the religion game in the old days)
TheOsirian
If God is a dragon does that mean he has Sean Connery's voice? A 007 dragon...cool.
Tangerine Sheri
QUOTE(Beckys_Mom @ Nov 28 2006, 04:06 AM) [snapback]1441790[/snapback]

I don't believe God made man in his own image. When you step back and look at what is destroying the world as we know it, all that creates destruction, all that kills the enviorment, all that kills animals for sport and a few of these animals are soon to become extinct, the same thing that brought a killing disease/virus into our midst...(ie AIDS..the saying goes...AIDS is like Nylon - Man Made!!)... the same kind that created destructive weapons to destroy, the same kind that every time you switch on the news, has raped and killed.....the most deadliest thing ever placed on this earth...is MAN...it's hard to believe God the creator..created man in the image as himself.

IMO God is not in the image of MAN...God is a force of energy..a spirit if you will..but not in the form of man..it doesnt make sense. It was man that claimed God made us in his form...a theory..thats it.!!

Geri its official you have the heart of a visionary and humanitairian...why does man insist on saying this is diety ..what a stretch to insist this is the creator, I gotta tell you my standards are set alot higher..then insist we should all worship (god/man) wink iwnk ..oy vey.
hrmes
because he decided to come back here and see for himself how bad we ****ed up
=Jak=
QUOTE(Paranoid Android @ Nov 28 2006, 07:43 PM) [snapback]1441858[/snapback]

I guess it then comes down to your definition of hell. My definition of hell is different, more based on what the Bible actually says. I do not think God is in hell.


I don't know much about bible.. but if i m right.. jesus taken everyone's sin.. is he undergone pain because of that? That time population was less and believer was less.. now he have lot of people who beleive jesus.. then how much suffering he has to under go.. because still we do sin... that is sure..
=Jak=
QUOTE(IamsSon @ Nov 29 2006, 08:52 AM) [snapback]1442865[/snapback]

ummm, because he's omnipresent.


Yes.. if he is omnipresent... he should be the suffer too.. he may undergo suffering which we not even guessed! isn't that true?
GoddessWhispers
I know people that call themselves, "Pantheistic Christians". So, given their belief (among others) I'd say your right. God is in hell, God is hell. The creator of all things, that says in the old T. , I am that I am. That Alpha & Omega.


Which would then lend to the conclusion that God is also the Devil. (Good/Evil)
Besides, what do the religious worship except their own ascent to a delusion, called God?! Which is a whole other thread. rofl.gif
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