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SilverCougar
Dear.. gods...

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Saudi Arabia's religious police stopped schoolgirls from leaving a blazing building because they were not wearing correct Islamic dress, according to Saudi newspapers.

In a rare criticism of the kingdom's powerful "mutaween" police, the Saudi media has accused them of hindering attempts to save 15 girls who died in the fire on Monday.

About 800 pupils were inside the school in the holy city of Mecca when the tragedy occurred.

Saudi hospital staff carry a victim of the girl school fire to an ambulance in Mecca
15 girls died in the blaze and more than 50 others were injured
According to the al-Eqtisadiah daily, firemen confronted police after they tried to keep the girls inside because they were not wearing the headscarves and abayas (black robes) required by the kingdom's strict interpretation of Islam.

One witness said he saw three policemen "beating young girls to prevent them from leaving the school because they were not wearing the abaya".

The Saudi Gazette quoted witnesses as saying that the police - known as the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice - had stopped men who tried to help the girls and warned "it is a sinful to approach them".

The father of one of the dead girls said that the school watchman even refused to open the gates to let the girls out.

"Lives could have been saved had they not been stopped by members of the Commission for Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice," the newspaper concluded.


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I don't think I can say anything right now... I just.. can't...
chaoszerg
QUOTE(SilverCougar @ Dec 6 2006, 01:02 AM) [snapback]1451370[/snapback]

Dear.. gods...
There is more to the article...
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I don't think I can say anything right now... I just.. can't...







They are idiots for letting those girls die just over a dress code.
Red-eye Dragoon
I can't believe this. ohmy.gif What kind of police would prevent schoolgirls from escaping a fire, and even using brute force to keep them in; all because they were'nt dressed propperly? angry.gif

I can understand the police not wanting to let them out in a normal situation due to the way they were dressed but this was a bloody emrgency! I sincerly hope that this matter is looked into and something is done about these officers regarding the choice they made.

I feel sick.
Conspiracy
i think its about time we destroy religions like Islam, this is just going to far over some bulls*** codes
coldethyl
This makes me sick.
ASOP
This is just horrible.
Michelle
crying.gif There are no words...yes there are, but they aren't suitable here... angry.gif
joc
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I can't believe this. What kind of police would prevent schoolgirls from escaping a fire, and even using brute force to keep them in; all because they were'nt dressed propperly?


This is the same mindset as we are fighting in Iraq and all over the world...Islamic Extremist....

...I'm beginning to believe all of Islam is pretty extreme...
SilverCougar
Just remember.. We busted on Iraq for their doing the same kind of things. This is Saudi.. our "ally" as it were. Our government will do squat to make them stop.
Michelle
If we battled every injustice in this world we still wouldn't win...
SilverCougar
Oh yus, indeed.
brazilianguy
What a wonderful world we live in..
girty1600
What do those religious freaks care about young girls? Answer; nada. Know why? Because those mis-treated little girls are just going to grow up to be mis-treated women.

Until women are given power and influence in these fundamentalist countries the situation won't change much. Sad.
Great Big Sea
That's cruel.
eqgumby
I love finding stuff like this on a website like this. Spread the word to all your left wing liberal puke friends. This is the kind of crap we face, and this is why we are in the middle east. Principal. Religion and tradition aside, there is NO moral compass that points in the direction these people take. Pity them, don't hate them. And try to free them from the insanity that binds them to these acts. Politics aside for that matter, this is wrong on many levels, and right on NONE.
conspiracysrus
why are we so shocked?
normal behavior for that part of the world, and there are many do gooders in this part of the world who think these nutters have equal worth.
they parade down the street in the thousands shouting and defending the scums rights to practice their faith an all that rubbish.
makes me sick!!
Banw
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What is wrong with the middle-east?!
truethat
Its hard to convey the mindset of these men but this seems about right. I too agree that this is the kind of thing we are fighting in Iraq and people who keep screaming that its all about the oil just don't have a damned clue at all.

SilverCougar
QUOTE(eqgumby @ Dec 18 2006, 04:08 AM) [snapback]1465932[/snapback]
I love finding stuff like this on a website like this. Spread the word to all your left wing liberal puke friends. This is the kind of crap we face, and this is why we are in the middle east. Principal. Religion and tradition aside, there is NO moral compass that points in the direction these people take. Pity them, don't hate them. And try to free them from the insanity that binds them to these acts. Politics aside for that matter, this is wrong on many levels, and right on NONE.



Well that's just a "Conservitive .. puke..." opinion. wink2.gif

Like I said.. we will never go after Saudi for the same crimes we tell ourselves we're in Iraq for.

So far.. the reasons for this war has changed so many times, I don't even know why we're really there.

First it was "We have to get Osama!" To which we couldn't. So Bush seemingly went.. "Well we can't find Osama.. butlookatIraq! Sadam has WMD! He's hideing terrorists! He's.. abusing his people! We must stop him!!" To which the WMD has gone from "He has them.. er. no he doesn't.. Yes! Yes he does! Oh wait.. no.. no he doesn't... Oh look.. EVIDENCE!!" Well due.. he used biological weapons on the Kurds, but after that, he didn't have WMDs anymore. He wasn't hideing any terrorists.. and practicaly half the middle eastern countries treat girls and women piss poorly.

So yeah, while you might think my confusion and opinions are just "worthless liberalism" it's not.

It's the opinion of someone who's an American, who votes, and watches and listens, and reads about this war.. from ALL sides.. Not just "liberal" not just "Conservitive" All sides. And form my own damned opinions. I'm not liberal.. I'm not conservitive. And I don't rather like the tone of alot of the conservitives... Your words and insults betray your points and argument. When people see nothing but filth and insults... it lessens your credibility.

Now in my searches, occationaly, I come across something like this article. And it angers me because one of the damned excusses for this war is that we were trying to bring a better life to the people in Iraq... meanwhile in our Aly's county... they're doing much the same thing. Only the real "shockers" , like this article and the one about the woman being whipped for being raped, make it out. To which, if they make it here.. it's to show that we, as a country, would be doomed to police the whole of the Middle East if we truly over there to bring a better life to the peoples there. wink2.gif
truethat

This is what makes me mad about the bans on the hijab. There are serious problems in the middle east. But instead par for the course for France, lets take the easy way out and ban the hijab in France so that it looks like we are actually doing something when we are not.

Further, lets bash the US for actually being willing to get itself dirty trying to do something about the leadership in these kinds of countries.
truethat
SIlvercougar your logic blows my mind. I have heard this sentiment before. It literally stops me in my tracks. Do you have even a toe in reality?

We can't changed the world. We certainly can't change the world with everyone against us. If people keep treating foreign countries with behavior like this as "different cultures" and insisting that we back down because its a "civil problem" then nothing is ever going to change.

Saddam needed to go. End of story. So do a whole bunch of others. Since Europe is filled with anti Semites, they usually take the side of people like this as well. Additionally they do sweet things like renege on embargoes and do back door trading on oil for food plans.

What la la land do you live in? It isn't the Justice League where the US gets to swoop in with the Green Lantern and the Wonder Twins and make it all good.

We have to have allies over there. And someone has to do something about this stuff. But of course every time the US tries to do anything for these reasons either no one believes us or they won't help us and accuse us of interfering. You know the way Bush Sr. was told that we had to back down from Saddam and let the people rise up during the Persian Gulf war, and so the Kurds were massacred.

What is your argument? Unless we stop them ALL we can't stop any of them?
eqgumby
QUOTE(truethat @ Dec 19 2006, 11:37 PM) [snapback]1468118[/snapback]
SIlvercougar your logic blows my mind. I have heard this sentiment before. It literally stops me in my tracks. Do you have even a toe in reality?

We can't changed the world. We certainly can't change the world with everyone against us. If people keep treating foreign countries with behavior like this as "different cultures" and insisting that we back down because its a "civil problem" then nothing is ever going to change.

Saddam needed to go. End of story. So do a whole bunch of others. Since Europe is filled with anti Semites, they usually take the side of people like this as well. Additionally they do sweet things like renege on embargoes and do back door trading on oil for food plans.

What la la land do you live in? It isn't the Justice League where the US gets to swoop in with the Green Lantern and the Wonder Twins and make it all good.

We have to have allies over there. And someone has to do something about this stuff. But of course every time the US tries to do anything for these reasons either no one believes us or they won't help us and accuse us of interfering. You know the way Bush Sr. was told that we had to back down from Saddam and let the people rise up during the Persian Gulf war, and so the Kurds were massacred.

What is your argument? Unless we stop them ALL we can't stop any of them?



I see your point, and I agree that Saddam had to go. However, as time goes by, I find myself leaning more and more to an isolationist mindset. While I agree that what they do is wrong I am tired of American people getting killed over it. I am leaning to letting them do whatever the hell they want, in Darfur and anywhere else. I say we tried, and got no support, so screw them. Let the crap hit the fan and let the EU deal with it. No more aid, no more support. I'm sick of my tax dollars going to governments that crap on us and call us "The Great Satan".
SilverCougar
QUOTE(truethat @ Dec 19 2006, 11:37 PM) [snapback]1468118[/snapback]
SIlvercougar your logic blows my mind. I have heard this sentiment before. It literally stops me in my tracks. Do you have even a toe in reality?

We can't changed the world. We certainly can't change the world with everyone against us. If people keep treating foreign countries with behavior like this as "different cultures" and insisting that we back down because its a "civil problem" then nothing is ever going to change.

Saddam needed to go. End of story. So do a whole bunch of others. Since Europe is filled with anti Semites, they usually take the side of people like this as well. Additionally they do sweet things like renege on embargoes and do back door trading on oil for food plans.

What la la land do you live in? It isn't the Justice League where the US gets to swoop in with the Green Lantern and the Wonder Twins and make it all good.

We have to have allies over there. And someone has to do something about this stuff. But of course every time the US tries to do anything for these reasons either no one believes us or they won't help us and accuse us of interfering. You know the way Bush Sr. was told that we had to back down from Saddam and let the people rise up during the Persian Gulf war, and so the Kurds were massacred.

What is your argument? Unless we stop them ALL we can't stop any of them?



Hmm.. if you read what I said.. I clearly know that we can't police the world. And my personal opinion is.. that I don't even think we should be trying.

But.. keep on insulting people like you always do. Now I'll just sit back and wait for you to complain that I'm attacking you. wink2.gif
truethat
QUOTE(eqgumby @ Dec 20 2006, 01:30 AM) [snapback]1468239[/snapback]
I see your point, and I agree that Saddam had to go. However, as time goes by, I find myself leaning more and more to an isolationist mindset. While I agree that what they do is wrong I am tired of American people getting killed over it. I am leaning to letting them do whatever the hell they want, in Darfur and anywhere else. I say we tried, and got no support, so screw them. Let the crap hit the fan and let the EU deal with it. No more aid, no more support. I'm sick of my tax dollars going to governments that crap on us and call us "The Great Satan".



Yeah I kinda agree but then when you hear stories like this you realize that you can't just sit back and listen to Europe. I think that the reason Europe got so pissed off with Bush is he's the first president to actually treat them like the useless two faced countries they are. They are angry that he ignored their hissy fit and went ahead and got rid of Saddam.

I know there's a lot to this war that's wrong. Believe me, I'm among its first critics. But there is no denying that him being gone is a good thing. When I hear people whine about "Well what about North Korea, what about them???" "Well what about Iran huh?"

It's like they must come from Brad Pitt's family where they are missing sensitivity chips. We can't just stomp all over the world. We might need an alliance for oil at the moment or for strategic reasons. Plus keeping good relationships with some of these countries allows us to allow people to migrate to our country and offers them another out.

Its a sad state of affairs that is not going to go away. That's what we did during WWII and we got dragged into it anyway.
eqgumby
QUOTE(truethat @ Dec 20 2006, 02:49 AM) [snapback]1468312[/snapback]
Yeah I kinda agree but then when you hear stories like this you realize that you can't just sit back and listen to Europe. I think that the reason Europe got so pissed off with Bush is he's the first president to actually treat them like the useless two faced countries they are. They are angry that he ignored their hissy fit and went ahead and got rid of Saddam.

I know there's a lot to this war that's wrong. Believe me, I'm among its first critics. But there is no denying that him being gone is a good thing. When I hear people whine about "Well what about North Korea, what about them???" "Well what about Iran huh?"

It's like they must come from Brad Pitt's family where they are missing sensitivity chips. We can't just stomp all over the world. We might need an alliance for oil at the moment or for strategic reasons. Plus keeping good relationships with some of these countries allows us to allow people to migrate to our country and offers them another out.

Its a sad state of affairs that is not going to go away. That's what we did during WWII and we got dragged into it anyway.


I am tempted to wait, like in WW2, then when France or some other bunch of pussies cries that they just got their asses handed to them by a bunch of idiots living in mud huts, we can crush them like the vermin they are, and we'll get a few decades of thanks, before they turn on us again. Yeah, as time goes by, I get angrier and angrier at the crap the US endures politically from socialist, elitist twits with short memories. They left us with the s**t-storm in VietNam, why not do the same in the middle-east?
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