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God versus Ialdabaoth: The Essence of Evil

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Rev 13:18 hic sapientia est qui habet intellectum conputet numerum bestiae numerus enim hominis est et numerus eius est sescenti sexaginta sex


Dateline: Monday, October 31, 2005

By: EDWARD O'TOOLE



There have always been those who are attracted to the ‘Dark Side’, usually as an act of rebellion or through ignorance. Sometimes, a simple misunderstanding can be enough to divert an otherwise logical person’s morality to malelovance.

But what if the real evil is almost universally worshipped as good? What if, through centuries of persecution, the mephitic has subdued the majority into a numbed, blind belief of which any questioning incurs retribution?

An odd state of affairs was posed to me recently concerning a young lady’s slip into the darker realms. Through misguided counsel, the young lady in question began to associate with a truly heinous figure, namely, one Ialdabaoth. For reasons unclear at the present, her adopted (or perhaps imposed) circle of friends led her to a bizarre form of “Gnosticism”; they presented her with the infamous celebrity of the Demiurge, the Creator of the Physical, and she embraced him with open arms. This acceptance of Chaos, illusion and insane jealousy was chosen for all the wrong reasons (if there ARE any right ones). Little does she realize it but this young lady has chosen, unwittingly, to worship the God of Jews and Christians alike.

The Judeo-Christian God, evil? I hear you cry. Never! He is the God of forgiveness and love!

Nay, reply I – he is the same as Ialdabaoth: an aberrant, abhorrent, genocidal maniac.

But it is the devil that is evil, you retort. And in that, you are wrong. We do not even have to resort to the Gnostic gospels or any other arcane literature to see this. Got a Bible handy?

Jehovah, the self-proclaimed god of the Israelites (and of no other tribe, let’s make that clear), appeared a few thousand years ago, according to the Bible. For the sake of argument, I’ll ignore the fact that his name changes and that he goes from being plural (Elohim) to singular (El), and that his main preoccupation is that his tribe does not worship any other gods, even though he repeatedly states that he, as an Omnipotent Deity, exists alone. No, I’ll skip that and instead compare what the God of Goodness has done, and what the foul Satan (his apparent opposite) has done. Again, for the sake of argument, I’ll not cite the different names and descriptions of the devil as that may confuse the reader into believing that the Bible constantly talks about different entities, or why the Bible’s antagonist is clearly shown to have absolutely no chance of winning.

The Serpent suggests that Eve eat fruit from the Tree of Knowledge:

Genesis 3,4 And the serpent said unto the woman: 'Ye shall not surely die; 3,5 for God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as God, knowing good and evil.'

God’s response? Curse the serpent, and:

Genesis 3,16 Unto the woman He said: 'I will greatly multiply thy pain and thy travail; in pain thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.' 3,17 And unto Adam He said: 'Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying: Thou shalt not eat of it; cursed is the ground for thy sake; in toil shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life. 3,18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field. 3,19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken; for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.'

So Man is damned for all eternity – every newborn infant is cursed by Original Sin. Very Just. Why did God do this? Fear. But, of what? That Man should really see who God is?

Note the use of ‘US’.

Genesis 3,22 And the LORD God said: 'Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil; and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever.'

Or, how about another of The Prince of Darkness’ diabolical suggestions:

1 Chronicles 21:1 "And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel

A population census? The turpitude of it all! No wonder that God responded with:

1 Chronicles 21:14 “So the Lord sent pestilence upon Israel: and there fell of Israel seventy thousand men"

Whoops, said the Morning Star; it was only an idea…

Occasionally, it gets just a little confusing as to WHO is the root of all evil. Christians will tell you that it is Satan, but the Bible shows otherwise:

1 Samuel 16:16 And it shall come to pass, when the evil spirit from God is upon thee, that he shall play with his hand, and thou shalt be well.

1 Samuel 18:10 And it came to pass on the morrow, that the evil spirit from God came upon Saul.

1 Samuel 19:9 And the evil spirit from the LORD was upon Saul

1 Kings 22:23 Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil concerning thee.

But, still you cry, “God is Just! He is forgiving! He accepts all!” Ah…

Genesis 6,5 And the LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. 6,6 And it repented the LORD that He had made man on the earth, and it grieved Him at His heart. 6,7 And the LORD said: 'I will blot out man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and creeping thing, and fowl of the air; for it repenteth Me that I have made them.'

And so God caused the Flood, which killed every single living thing apart from Noah, his family, and as many animals as he could squeeze onto a barge with 6660 square yards storage space.

But, God did feel guilt for the virtual annihilation of Life after recovering from his hissy-fit:

Genesis 8,21 And the LORD smelled the sweet savour [Ed – the burning flesh of sacrificed animals]; and the LORD said in His heart: 'I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done.

Well, except on Judgement Day when He’ll really let His hair down.

Jeremiah 25:33 And the slain of the Lord shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth: they shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried, they shall be dung upon the ground

So, did the God of happy smiling lovey-dovey-ness keep his word about not smiting anymore? Not really:

1 Samuel 6:19 Bodycount 50,070. Method? Smiting. Reason? Looking in the Ark of the Covenant

Numbers 25:6-9 Bodycount 24,000 Method? Plague. Reason? Mixed marriage

2 Chronicles 13:15-18 Bodycount 500,000 Method? Slaughter. Reason? Being Israelites

2 Chronicles 28:6-8 Bodycount 120,000, Women & Children slaves 200,000 Method? Slaughter. Reason? Foresaking God.

2 Chronicles 14:8-12 Bodycount 1 million. Method? Smiting. Reason? Being Ethiopian

1 Corinthians 10:8 Bodycount 23,000 Method? Falling down dead. Reason? Having sex.

Exodus 32:26-28 Bodycount 3000. Method? Slaughter. Reason? Not being on the Lord’s side

Numbers 16:35 Bodycount 250. Method? Fire. Reason? I’m sure God had one at the time.

Numbers 16:44-49 Bodycount 14,700. Method? Plague. Reason? Again…

Numbers 25:1-9 Bodycount 24,000. Method? Plague. Reason? Whoring around.

Judges 1:4 Bodycount 10,000. Method? Slaughter. Reason? Genocide.

Judges 3:28-29 Bodycount 10,000. Method? Slaughter. Reason? Genocide.

The list goes on and on but we’ve been concentrating on God’s faults too much – Bias, I hear you say. And, you’re right. What’s the despicable and infernal demon been up to?

Job 2:[3] And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that [there is] none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil? and still he holdeth fast his integrity, although thou movedst me against him, to destroy him without cause. [4] And Satan answered the LORD, and said, Skin for skin, yea, all that a man hath will he give for his life. [5] But put forth thine hand now, and touch his bone and his flesh, and he will curse thee to thy face. [6] And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, he [is] in thine hand; but save his life.

Who’s tempting who? Christian Evangelicals amusingly use the same quote to substantiate the devil’s malice, including exclamation marks when Satan speaks and – and here’s the rub – accidentally omitting verse 5 and the part of verse 3 which begins “although thou movedst.”. It’s clear that even in Biblical times, prosecuting attorneys weren’t very popular:

Zec 3: [1] And he shewed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the LORD, and Satan standing at his right hand to resist him. [2] And the LORD said unto Satan, The LORD rebuke thee, O Satan; even the LORD that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: [is] not this a brand plucked out of the fire?

The Devil is called the Father of Lies (John 8:44), wily (Ephesians 6:11), and a coward (James 4:7).

2 Corinthians 11:[13] For such [are] false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. [14] And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. [15] Therefore [it is] no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

An angel of light, eh? Let’s just have a look at death tolls thus far:

God (excluding everyone and everything he killed in Noah’s time, and everyone and everything he will kill at the end of time): Several million, at least.

Satan: Erm…well….erm, he did tempt someone and he gave Job a few boils. Evil, I tell you. But otherwise that’s a big fat zero for the horned one.

What about tending to the flock? Rewards? Punishments? How do God and the Devil square up? I mean, it’s obvious isn’t it? God’s good, the devil’s bad. Right?

God:

Abandon God? He’ll kill 90% of the population (Amos 5:1-3)

Homosexuality? Kill everybody. Raze their cities to the ground (Genesis 19:24-25)

Make fun of God? Kill everybody (Isaiah 37:1-36))

Naughty children? Death by stoning (Deuteronomy 21:20-21)

Obesity? Kill everyone with a plague (Numbers 11:32-33, Psalms 78:31)

Illegitimate child? Hell for 10 generations afterwards for the innocent child and its offspring, mandatory (Deuteronomy 23:2)

Promiscuous women? Nose and ears cut off, children taken away, stripped, burned alive (Ezekiel 23:25-27)

Raping a virgin? Marry the girl (Deuteronomy 22:28-29)

Break God’s Commandments? Consumption, fever, inflammation, extreme burning, stabbing with sword, blasting, mildew, until death – plus the botch of Egypt, hemorrhoids, scabies, the itch, madness, blindness, and astonishment of heart. (Deuteronomy 28:15-28)

Complain? Burned to death by Heavenly fire (Numbers 11:1)

Worship another god? Entire community: Men – death by sword, babies smashed to pieces, women and children ripped apart (Hosea 13:16)

Satan:

Erm... well nothing, really. He did offer Jesus a nice time-share on the world at one point though (Matthew 4:1-11). Nasty piece of work.

Hopefully, you will have noticed that there’s a pattern forming here. The truth is often hidden in plain view – as Tolkein’s ‘Speak friend and enter’ made clear. The Bible tells us what Ialdabaoth is really like, while diverting our attention with pointless references to any number of Intelligences (and several then contemporary, overly gaudy, rulers) who have, in modern times, been grouped under the scapegoat’s heading of Satan or Lucifer. But, to worship Satan as a Deity is in itself idiocy. He is clearly not on the same level as God, as Jehovah – at least in the early books before the Jews got mixed up with Ahriman and Ibliss – commands him. Satan is an angel, a Seraph, and son of Eve, according to the Gnostics. His sole job was to infiltrate Ialdabaoth’s little puppet theatre and give Mankind a slap around the face wake-up-call. Unfortunately, the Divine Abomination caught him red-handed. However, we must ask ourselves WHY did the serpent want us to eat of the fruit of knowledge, so that we may understand good and evil, to understand God? What was his motive? Was this merely a selfless act of pity, akin to the sin Prometheus committed?

No.

The serpent was commanded to enter Paradise; he was the first Saviour (‘The Light Bringer’, of a similar vein to the later Christus, but of a lesser rank – and for those who think that the Messiah came to intercede between Man and the God of this world, I suggest you read the gospels that were not included in the final version) sent by the Legions of Light, in an attempt to awaken the slumbering spirits of the Heavenly Host trapped within the clay creationss of Ialdabaoth’s demented design.

The frustration and impotent fury of the Demiurge is apparent throughout the Bible. He DEMANDS absolute worship – and slaughters in horrific ways those who refuse to give it. His only desire, his raison d’etre, is to be a god – to be THE God of his own realm. Had he have stuck to lifeless automatons, then the Legion of Light would probably have left him in peace; by imprisoning the souls of the almost-pure, he condemned himself to higher retribution.

The identity of Satan seems to get a little confused in Matthew, Mark and Luke, as surely it could not refer to the Rock on which the Catholic Church was founded (although seeing as though Peter denied Jesus three times…):

Mat 16:23 But he [Jesus] turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

The Bible, and religion in its largest form, states that God/Ialdabaoth will decide the Fate of souls; that on Judgement Day, it is He who will save the faithful few (144,000 according to Revelations 7:4: 12,000 from each of the tribes of Israel – sorry, no gentiles!), and condemn the rest to an eternity of suffering in Hell.

This is a half-truth. While the God of this world, the Creator of our corporeal forms, is indeed superior to us, he is susceptible to Judgement Himself – and his actions have thus far condemned Him, and those who follow him, to a horrible end. The Gnostics craved, through the wisdom of the Sophia, to surpass the Demiurge by acts of purity and abstinence of material pleasures, hoping to rejoin the pleroma. One must Really Choose Hard one’s guide. Perhaps one of the true benefits of Gnosticism, knowledge, is to be able to reach such a level of understanding that the gnostikoi may look into the black depths of God’s soul and see the faint and corroded spark of Ultimate Light that resides there, and be able to wrench it free – thus dispersing the chaotic mist that surrounds it and our world, at least for the individual concerned.

Perhaps the true key to accessing God, and thereby stepping over Him to the higher realms while still in mortal form, would be to locate the Gates of Paradise – the original Garden of Eden - and speak the password that would dismiss the vigilant cherub with flaming sword; to rest a while amid that ancient peace before eating of the Tree of Knowledge and the Tree of Eternal Life. Then, as gods, and knowledgeable in the errors of Ialdabaoth’s making, we could transcend. As God has apparently been in hiding for the last several thousand years, he might be there himself.

Perhaps the young lady, who has looked into the pit and been mesmerized, should think upon Paradise and how to access it – a goal far more worthy than any Spiritus Mundi or Graal, or maybe these are just synonyms of such? Leave Ialdabaoth to the fearful, the subdued and the ignorant – only the mad would want a monster for a master.

We are all, or at least have the possibility to become, gods.

Parcite Nobis, Edward O’Toole. Slovakia 2005

God versus Ialdabaoth: The Essence of Evil
draconic chronicler
You are forgetting the best one of all, and it is from the New Testament, with its supposedly "kinder, gentler, God". IAccording to Revelations, that in the coming "end times" God will loose legions of sharp toothed, fire and brimstoned spitting, snake tailed "dragon horses" to destroy one third of the human population. That has to be at least two billion?

The funny thing about it is, a lot of Christians totally misunderstand the scripture, and when Jesus warns "Some will be taken" (by these soul devouring monsters), they have misconstrued this into a nonsenscal "rapture" and they will be magically "taken" into to heaven! Boy, won't they be surprised!

I do find it interesting that Christians have embraced the Zoroastrian dualistic theology, blisfully ignorant that out ot the same texts they were quick to
plagiarize in the New Testament, it matter of factly states that the God of the Judao-Christian religions is a monstrous, bloodthirsty dragon named Zohac. (But for some reason they left that part out of the New Testament.)
GoddessWhispers
Thanks for the read Elel. Is this included in that title, Sophia Bestiae?


QUOTE(draconic chronicler @ Dec 14 2006, 02:15 PM) [snapback]1461517[/snapback]
the God of the Judao-Christian religions is a monstrous, bloodthirsty dragon named Zohac. (But for some reason they left that part out of the New Testament.)

I'm sure it was just a mere oversight. Could happen to any scribe. laugh.gif

Didn't Blavatsky mention Zohac in "The Secret Doctrine" as well!?
Ashley-Star*Child
DC, is there...any....post where you do not mention dragons? So what if there are dragons in Heaven, they only make up the Seraphim order, so who cares.
draconic chronicler
QUOTE(Ashley-Star*Child @ Dec 14 2006, 03:00 AM) [snapback]1461900[/snapback]
DC, is there...any....post where you do not mention dragons? So what if there are dragons in Heaven, they only make up the Seraphim order, so who cares.

It has everything to do with this thread. On the other hand, you have contributed nothing by your post.
GoddessWhispers
A worthy Bump. I can't see this thread falling down the page because of a certain last word and valid retort. wink2.gif
NiCkC818
Many people believe that the rapture will be a mass ALIEN ABDUCTION! LOL!!
GoddessWhispers
linked-image Cool! Then, come the rapture, I'll have my pick of better cars! rofl.gif w00t.gif
Spurious George
QUOTE(draconic chronicler @ Dec 13 2006, 06:15 PM) [snapback]1461517[/snapback]
You are forgetting the best one of all, and it is from the New Testament, with its supposedly "kinder, gentler, God". IAccording to Revelations, that in the coming "end times" God will loose legions of sharp toothed, fire and brimstoned spitting, snake tailed "dragon horses" to destroy one third of the human population. That has to be at least two billion?


I hope you found some things of interest in the read draconic chronicler, I enjoy your input on the subject of dragons and seraphim. I'll let Edward know, I'm sure fire breathing dragon horses killing a third of the population would be one of his interests lol. As Ed says in the article about Judgement Day, its when God will "really let His hair down" lol.

QUOTE(GoddessWhispers @ Dec 13 2006, 06:39 PM) [snapback]1461546[/snapback]
Thanks for the read Elel. Is this included in that title, Sophia Bestiae?


The exact article, no its not. The information found in this article, yes and more. Sophia Bestiae was actually just translated into Polish and will be released as soon as Edward gets through the bs of Polish cencorship. Amazing in some countries even today you cant just call God a genocidal maniac without the cencors peeing their pants. Funny part, a Christian aquaintance of his did the translation but by the end had a "conflict of conscience", gave him the finished translation and left. I guess the truth can hurt sometimes lol. I dont really care didnt really know him, we had an argument about heresy before then and I didnt really like his attitude lol.
GoddessWhispers
Well that certainly explains why my local booksellers can't find the title so as to even issue a special order request through a distributor. Amazon claims to carry it, but I'm wondering if one orders they'll get a notice, after they've paid, that it's not yet in stock!?

So, after the Polish censorship, that what is left bound and considered fit for human consumption, will be only a shadow of it's former self!? hmm.gif Has your friend that has to submit this to polish censoring ever considered mailing the uncensored original to someone here and then having them publish via an publisher like LuLu Press!? From what I gather it's far more user friendly than big publishing houses and might afford a chance at the complete work being published.
mofire
wow, that is awesome! thanks for clearing up the picture for me
RadicalGnostic
Iadabaoth is not considered evil by Gnostics. He is blind and arrogant, but not evil. We consider evil the result of spritual wickedness in high places.

Peace,

RadicalGnostic
Swandancer
I'd like to refer everyone to "Thunderbolts of the Gods" - a DVD which helps clear up the mysteries here. It's very scientifically based, yet accepts neither the Orthodox Creation nor the Darwinian theories at all.

These two authors also have books: "The Electric Universe" and "The Electric Sky" by David Talbott and Wallace Thornhill. Both excellent speakers which I have heard on the radio.

Also recommended is:

God Star By Dwardu Cardona
Drawing on ancient sources and recent discoveries in the sciences, author Dwardu Cardona describes an ancient sky remembered around the world, when early nations worshipped the planet Saturn as the first "sun" and the original "supreme god." 518 pages.

This explains the ancient knowledge of the planet Saturn, and how those observations have been formed into belief in the God named "Jehovah" or "Yahweh" also known as "El" or "Saturn". Saturn was the basis for our Sun, and Jehovah is a Sun God.

At the formation of the Cosmos, when great cataclysms took place, everything settled and became what we experience today as our universe. The story is about the cataclysms as though they were "Wars of the Gods" which now have become "Holy Wars" on earth due to personifying all these things and making them into human entities.

As an aside, it is an extremely enlightening venture to do a search on the etymology of the word "Holy". It comes from the Greek "Helios" meaning:

At thefreedictionary.com it says

He·li·os

(hl-s)

n. Greek Mythology

The sun god, son of Hyperion, depicted as driving his chariot across the sky from east to west daily.

Also: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&def...on&ct=title
sol in Latin, sun in English, assimilated etymologically with the Hebrew 'El and 'elohim, the Chaldean Bel, and the Phoenician Ba`al. Helios is paired with Selene the moon, as Sol is with Luna.

"Holy Bible" is nothing more than the English translation of the Greek "Helios Biblos" meaning "Sun Book" or "Book of Astrology". It is the story of the formation of the Cosmos, the study of the stars and planets, and nothing more than that.


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DVD—Intrinsic Redshift Halton Arp
In this 60-minute lecture, astronomer Halton Arp discusses a fundamental mistake of modern cosmology—the misinterpretation of redshift—a mistake that has had dire consequences for all of astronomy. The first fatalities are the modern myths of the Big Bang and the expanding universe.

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