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I was reading at a site, can't remember which one now about some guys diving in a lake. I think the Lake was near Russia or in Russia. They saw some weird creatures supposedly and they were letting this one guy down in the water with their equipment and he was able to communicate with the people letting him down and was supposed to have said to the people on the other end "Don't come down after Me". He supposedly struggled and was never recovered, I believe. Anyone read that story? [Emoticons]
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nope i aint read the story, could you possibly find the link and post it?
and ...this one time at band camp!!!!!
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and ...this one time at band camp!!!!!
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Wow. Where did you read about this? Is there possibly a link to a source story that's less nebulous than yours? It sounds like an urban legend the way you're telling it.
Give a newbie a break... 
Cherrypine, in the future you might want to do some research about your topic and post a relivant link when starting a thread like this that happens to attract forum flames like blood to a shark.
Welcome to UM.
Cherrypine, in the future you might want to do some research about your topic and post a relivant link when starting a thread like this that happens to attract forum flames like blood to a shark.
Welcome to UM.
I've never read it before but interesting story.
theres plenty of un- paranormal reasons he didnt come up.
its incredebly easy to drown. did he have someone with him???
its incredebly easy to drown. did he have someone with him???
This yarn actually brought to mind an article that didn't catch much of my attention last summer. It concerns a few Coast Guard divers in the artic who were well trained and highly experienced divers for the Coast Guard.
Well, the recovery and shouting was observed by a couple of people nearby who were observing the recovery of the divers and reported "unusual" behavior and shouting during the operation. A subsequent inquiry shortly after the incident brought about a term of silence from officials.
As always the facts to these "mysterious and paranormal happenings" are quite simple and mundane: The silence was in consideration of the victim's family, not a conspiracy. And that one's possession of expert diving skills and extensive experience operating in extreme diving conditions do not make humans invincible underwater.
Check out the link: I found it after google searching: arctic diver died coast guard
http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/i....xml&coll=7
Well, the recovery and shouting was observed by a couple of people nearby who were observing the recovery of the divers and reported "unusual" behavior and shouting during the operation. A subsequent inquiry shortly after the incident brought about a term of silence from officials.
As always the facts to these "mysterious and paranormal happenings" are quite simple and mundane: The silence was in consideration of the victim's family, not a conspiracy. And that one's possession of expert diving skills and extensive experience operating in extreme diving conditions do not make humans invincible underwater.
Check out the link: I found it after google searching: arctic diver died coast guard
http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/i....xml&coll=7
This isn't the original that I read but its a similar account of a similar encounter under same circumstances: A truly fascinating chapter of Mysterious Sky focuses on anomalous creatures and objects seen beneath Russia?s seas and other large bodies of water, with the earliest recorded incident coming from 1908 when an oval submerged object paced beneath a steamship, immersing it in an unearthly green luminescence. A report from later times recounts how Soviet military divers, during training in a deep lake in western Siberia, encountered underwater ?swimmers? ? humanoid creatures three metres tall garbed in tight fitting silver suits with helmets, but minus any breathing equipment. It was decided to attempt to capture one of the creatures, but the seven divers sent to undertake this task were propelled back to the surface of the lake, consequently suffering from pressure changes resulting from the rapid ascent. Three of the divers died as a result, the remaining four becoming invalids. Similar creatures along with underwater UFOs have been reported in deep water lakes all over Russia. Soviet nuclear submarines have encountered moving objects beneath the sea, some emitting unusual noises for which they have been named ?croakers.? These objects show interest in the submarines, circling them and changing the tone and pitch of their sounds as if ?talking?.
Jeez, this all just makes me want to laugh, heartily. With great respect to all who do believe and want to believe all this garbage about UFO/Aliens, paranormal, etc I just have to say: what is wrong with the human brain??? Are we really this generally jacked up as a species? That more of us gravitate towards the fantastically impossible instead of having an innate nature to explain things in a simple and straight-forward manner?
Everytime I hear of ghosts, bigfoot, aliens, UFO's, USO's, etc the stories are always from a third-party perspective which INSTANTANEOUSLY can be written off as unreliable. Yes, our legal systems take eye-witness testimony "with a grain of salt". It is heard in courts-of-law, but cannot be relied upon totally for verdict.
And when these stories pop up it brings to mind the game we all played in Elementary school or as a cheesy party game. The one where several people sit in a circle and the first person starts a detailed story that is passed around the circle. The last person in the circle speaks out loud the info that was passed to him. The point being is to have a good chuckle at the garbage that the original story had transmuted into.
For the record: I would like for aliens to be visiting/living here on Earth. Hell, I wouldn't mind a spin in one of their saucers. And I would love ghosts to exists...then maybe I could meet family members who were deceased before I was born! I've been reading these sites and scanning news for years in hopes of actually seeing something that I could NOT find a mundane, everyday explanation for. The closest I can come to justifying anything as a paranormal happening is that incident in 1980 near Ben****ers RAF Base where the Base Commander himself witnessed some strange moving aerial phenomenon ((attributed to a stationary lighthouse of course)). There is official documentation that contains this officer's signature and reqeust for further inquiry into the matter. But no surprise, no further investigation was completed due to it not being a National Security threat. I'm sure someday the military will declassify documents that detail an x-project was being tested that night or some other black project so all my hopes for THAT paranormal event will have, like all these other fanciful yarns, just a mundane and down-to-earth explanation.
Unfortunately, there is always a rational and LOGICAL explanation to everything that is observed by our human eyes. Like the logical explanation for the true circumstances to the accidental death of a Coast Guard diver. Someone saw something they COULD NOT explain so unfortunately again, the most UNREASONABLE and COMPLICATED explanation has to be publicized.
Everytime I hear of ghosts, bigfoot, aliens, UFO's, USO's, etc the stories are always from a third-party perspective which INSTANTANEOUSLY can be written off as unreliable. Yes, our legal systems take eye-witness testimony "with a grain of salt". It is heard in courts-of-law, but cannot be relied upon totally for verdict.
And when these stories pop up it brings to mind the game we all played in Elementary school or as a cheesy party game. The one where several people sit in a circle and the first person starts a detailed story that is passed around the circle. The last person in the circle speaks out loud the info that was passed to him. The point being is to have a good chuckle at the garbage that the original story had transmuted into.
For the record: I would like for aliens to be visiting/living here on Earth. Hell, I wouldn't mind a spin in one of their saucers. And I would love ghosts to exists...then maybe I could meet family members who were deceased before I was born! I've been reading these sites and scanning news for years in hopes of actually seeing something that I could NOT find a mundane, everyday explanation for. The closest I can come to justifying anything as a paranormal happening is that incident in 1980 near Ben****ers RAF Base where the Base Commander himself witnessed some strange moving aerial phenomenon ((attributed to a stationary lighthouse of course)). There is official documentation that contains this officer's signature and reqeust for further inquiry into the matter. But no surprise, no further investigation was completed due to it not being a National Security threat. I'm sure someday the military will declassify documents that detail an x-project was being tested that night or some other black project so all my hopes for THAT paranormal event will have, like all these other fanciful yarns, just a mundane and down-to-earth explanation.
Unfortunately, there is always a rational and LOGICAL explanation to everything that is observed by our human eyes. Like the logical explanation for the true circumstances to the accidental death of a Coast Guard diver. Someone saw something they COULD NOT explain so unfortunately again, the most UNREASONABLE and COMPLICATED explanation has to be publicized.
Jeez, this all just makes me want to laugh, heartily. With great respect to all who do believe and want to believe all this garbage about UFO/Aliens, paranormal, etc I just have to say: what is wrong with the human brain??? Are we really this generally jacked up as a species? That more of us gravitate towards the fantastically impossible instead of having an innate nature to explain things in a simple and straight-forward manner?
Everytime I hear of ghosts, bigfoot, aliens, UFO's, USO's, etc the stories are always from a third-party perspective which INSTANTANEOUSLY can be written off as unreliable. Yes, our legal systems take eye-witness testimony "with a grain of salt". It is heard in courts-of-law, but cannot be relied upon totally for verdict.
And when these stories pop up it brings to mind the game we all played in Elementary school or as a cheesy party game. The one where several people sit in a circle and the first person starts a detailed story that is passed around the circle. The last person in the circle speaks out loud the info that was passed to him. The point being is to have a good chuckle at the garbage that the original story had transmuted into.
For the record: I would like for aliens to be visiting/living here on Earth. Hell, I wouldn't mind a spin in one of their saucers. And I would love ghosts to exists...then maybe I could meet family members who were deceased before I was born! I've been reading these sites and scanning news for years in hopes of actually seeing something that I could NOT find a mundane, everyday explanation for. The closest I can come to justifying anything as a paranormal happening is that incident in 1980 near Ben****ers RAF Base where the Base Commander himself witnessed some strange moving aerial phenomenon ((attributed to a stationary lighthouse of course)). There is official documentation that contains this officer's signature and reqeust for further inquiry into the matter. But no surprise, no further investigation was completed due to it not being a National Security threat. I'm sure someday the military will declassify documents that detail an x-project was being tested that night or some other black project so all my hopes for THAT paranormal event will have, like all these other fanciful yarns, just a mundane and down-to-earth explanation.
Unfortunately, there is always a rational and LOGICAL explanation to everything that is observed by our human eyes. Like the logical explanation for the true circumstances to the accidental death of a Coast Guard diver. Someone saw something they COULD NOT explain so unfortunately again, the most UNREASONABLE and COMPLICATED explanation has to be publicized.
Everytime I hear of ghosts, bigfoot, aliens, UFO's, USO's, etc the stories are always from a third-party perspective which INSTANTANEOUSLY can be written off as unreliable. Yes, our legal systems take eye-witness testimony "with a grain of salt". It is heard in courts-of-law, but cannot be relied upon totally for verdict.
And when these stories pop up it brings to mind the game we all played in Elementary school or as a cheesy party game. The one where several people sit in a circle and the first person starts a detailed story that is passed around the circle. The last person in the circle speaks out loud the info that was passed to him. The point being is to have a good chuckle at the garbage that the original story had transmuted into.
For the record: I would like for aliens to be visiting/living here on Earth. Hell, I wouldn't mind a spin in one of their saucers. And I would love ghosts to exists...then maybe I could meet family members who were deceased before I was born! I've been reading these sites and scanning news for years in hopes of actually seeing something that I could NOT find a mundane, everyday explanation for. The closest I can come to justifying anything as a paranormal happening is that incident in 1980 near Ben****ers RAF Base where the Base Commander himself witnessed some strange moving aerial phenomenon ((attributed to a stationary lighthouse of course)). There is official documentation that contains this officer's signature and reqeust for further inquiry into the matter. But no surprise, no further investigation was completed due to it not being a National Security threat. I'm sure someday the military will declassify documents that detail an x-project was being tested that night or some other black project so all my hopes for THAT paranormal event will have, like all these other fanciful yarns, just a mundane and down-to-earth explanation.
Unfortunately, there is always a rational and LOGICAL explanation to everything that is observed by our human eyes. Like the logical explanation for the true circumstances to the accidental death of a Coast Guard diver. Someone saw something they COULD NOT explain so unfortunately again, the most UNREASONABLE and COMPLICATED explanation has to be publicized.
Jeez, this all just makes me want to laugh, heartily. With great respect to all who do believe and want to believe all this garbage about UFO/Aliens, paranormal, etc I just have to say: what is wrong with the human brain??? Are we really this generally jacked up as a species? That more of us gravitate towards the fantastically impossible instead of having an innate nature to explain things in a simple and straight-forward manner?
Everytime I hear of ghosts, bigfoot, aliens, UFO's, USO's, etc the stories are always from a third-party perspective which INSTANTANEOUSLY can be written off as unreliable. Yes, our legal systems take eye-witness testimony "with a grain of salt". It is heard in courts-of-law, but cannot be relied upon totally for verdict.
And when these stories pop up it brings to mind the game we all played in Elementary school or as a cheesy party game. The one where several people sit in a circle and the first person starts a detailed story that is passed around the circle. The last person in the circle speaks out loud the info that was passed to him. The point being is to have a good chuckle at the garbage that the original story had transmuted into.
For the record: I would like for aliens to be visiting/living here on Earth. Hell, I wouldn't mind a spin in one of their saucers. And I would love ghosts to exists...then maybe I could meet family members who were deceased before I was born! I've been reading these sites and scanning news for years in hopes of actually seeing something that I could NOT find a mundane, everyday explanation for. The closest I can come to justifying anything as a paranormal happening is that incident in 1980 near Ben****ers RAF Base where the Base Commander himself witnessed some strange moving aerial phenomenon ((attributed to a stationary lighthouse of course)). There is official documentation that contains this officer's signature and reqeust for further inquiry into the matter. But no surprise, no further investigation was completed due to it not being a National Security threat. I'm sure someday the military will declassify documents that detail an x-project was being tested that night or some other black project so all my hopes for THAT paranormal event will have, like all these other fanciful yarns, just a mundane and down-to-earth explanation.
Unfortunately, there is always a rational and LOGICAL explanation to everything that is observed by our human eyes. Like the logical explanation for the true circumstances to the accidental death of a Coast Guard diver. Someone saw something they COULD NOT explain so unfortunately again, the most UNREASONABLE and COMPLICATED explanation has to be publicized.
Everytime I hear of ghosts, bigfoot, aliens, UFO's, USO's, etc the stories are always from a third-party perspective which INSTANTANEOUSLY can be written off as unreliable. Yes, our legal systems take eye-witness testimony "with a grain of salt". It is heard in courts-of-law, but cannot be relied upon totally for verdict.
And when these stories pop up it brings to mind the game we all played in Elementary school or as a cheesy party game. The one where several people sit in a circle and the first person starts a detailed story that is passed around the circle. The last person in the circle speaks out loud the info that was passed to him. The point being is to have a good chuckle at the garbage that the original story had transmuted into.
For the record: I would like for aliens to be visiting/living here on Earth. Hell, I wouldn't mind a spin in one of their saucers. And I would love ghosts to exists...then maybe I could meet family members who were deceased before I was born! I've been reading these sites and scanning news for years in hopes of actually seeing something that I could NOT find a mundane, everyday explanation for. The closest I can come to justifying anything as a paranormal happening is that incident in 1980 near Ben****ers RAF Base where the Base Commander himself witnessed some strange moving aerial phenomenon ((attributed to a stationary lighthouse of course)). There is official documentation that contains this officer's signature and reqeust for further inquiry into the matter. But no surprise, no further investigation was completed due to it not being a National Security threat. I'm sure someday the military will declassify documents that detail an x-project was being tested that night or some other black project so all my hopes for THAT paranormal event will have, like all these other fanciful yarns, just a mundane and down-to-earth explanation.
Unfortunately, there is always a rational and LOGICAL explanation to everything that is observed by our human eyes. Like the logical explanation for the true circumstances to the accidental death of a Coast Guard diver. Someone saw something they COULD NOT explain so unfortunately again, the most UNREASONABLE and COMPLICATED explanation has to be publicized.
That is a very scary story. Sounds very real. But i don't know if it's real or not.
So many posts! 
Its just silly.
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An Onymous fan by chance? Anyway, I don't really see what is alien about this.
Well, generally newspapers don't print garbage and false stories. Those are called Tabloids. This newpaper in Oregon, US is NOT a tabloid, and the link to it was provided to verify this thread's authors confirmation that a story he/she heard was actually grounded in fact.
Believe it or not Jonas16, it's real. But this incident is not so fantastic it should be relegated to the paranormal. Humans have accidents doing all types of different things everyday and they end up DYING in strange, absurd, and extraordinary ways.
Believe it or not Jonas16, it's real. But this incident is not so fantastic it should be relegated to the paranormal. Humans have accidents doing all types of different things everyday and they end up DYING in strange, absurd, and extraordinary ways.
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Antarctic Mystery Lake and Deadly Creatures
By Joseph Held July 15, 2001
This is part of a conversation I had with my friend Bill, a down to earth ex-air force man who's seen enough things to know we are not alone. Anyway, this has to do with Antarctica, it's kinda spooky, so I thought I'd share it.
Joe: Haven't heard anything more about Vostok lately. It's been hushed up.
Bill: Yeah! I noticed that. When I was working with old navy divers working on Ice Harbor dam I heard an interesting story. They were in the Antarctic diving in a secret location way below the ice. They wouldn't say where. They had one buddy that was deep and panicked when something came at him. Whatever it was got him. They said it was not a whale or shark because it was in a fresh water lake. Inland. These guys had been professional divers their whole life. Made me realize that these guys were either diving in Vostok or there is a similar place somewhere else in the Antarctic that is secret. They said they refused to work any more at that location and the Navy flew them out, debriefed, and discharged them. But it was supposed to be quite close to McMurdo station and that is a long way from Vostok. I listened real good. As you know stories are what keep me going. Yeah! They were diving at the dam working for me. I was the Foreman They were doing the underwater work on the new spillways. When they were out of the water decompressing I would chat with them and this story came out. Yeah! It rang my bell at the time. In light of the Vostok story it has renewed my interest in the conversation. Strange goings on at the bottom of the world. They said that the guy underwater said a few words. "It's horrible I don't have a chance!" and "Don't come down here." before he screamed. I would like to know the real story on that one. You know that these sorts of things contain only a grain of the real facts. But these guys were so serious. And they were a couple of real serious first rate people. I'm sure about the fatality they were too serious about that.
Joe: The facility wasn't the McMurdo station, but somewhere else?
Bill: No Lake Vostok is way up in the central part of Antarctica in the region the Russians have claimed. McMurdo is on the western coastline. Somewhere close to McMurdo in fresh water. I know that there is no such known place. But I'm remembering them saying something about fresh water in caves. And that it was secret. I remember the conversation started with me talking about Ham Radio and how my favorite radio contact had been with McMurdo station on CW. These two guys were real interested.
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Antarctic Mystery Lake and Deadly Creatures
By Joseph Held July 15, 2001
This is part of a conversation I had with my friend Bill, a down to earth ex-air force man who's seen enough things to know we are not alone. Anyway, this has to do with Antarctica, it's kinda spooky, so I thought I'd share it.
Joe: Haven't heard anything more about Vostok lately. It's been hushed up.
Bill: Yeah! I noticed that. When I was working with old navy divers working on Ice Harbor dam I heard an interesting story. They were in the Antarctic diving in a secret location way below the ice. They wouldn't say where. They had one buddy that was deep and panicked when something came at him. Whatever it was got him. They said it was not a whale or shark because it was in a fresh water lake. Inland. These guys had been professional divers their whole life. Made me realize that these guys were either diving in Vostok or there is a similar place somewhere else in the Antarctic that is secret. They said they refused to work any more at that location and the Navy flew them out, debriefed, and discharged them. But it was supposed to be quite close to McMurdo station and that is a long way from Vostok. I listened real good. As you know stories are what keep me going. Yeah! They were diving at the dam working for me. I was the Foreman They were doing the underwater work on the new spillways. When they were out of the water decompressing I would chat with them and this story came out. Yeah! It rang my bell at the time. In light of the Vostok story it has renewed my interest in the conversation. Strange goings on at the bottom of the world. They said that the guy underwater said a few words. "It's horrible I don't have a chance!" and "Don't come down here." before he screamed. I would like to know the real story on that one. You know that these sorts of things contain only a grain of the real facts. But these guys were so serious. And they were a couple of real serious first rate people. I'm sure about the fatality they were too serious about that.
Joe: The facility wasn't the McMurdo station, but somewhere else?
Bill: No Lake Vostok is way up in the central part of Antarctica in the region the Russians have claimed. McMurdo is on the western coastline. Somewhere close to McMurdo in fresh water. I know that there is no such known place. But I'm remembering them saying something about fresh water in caves. And that it was secret. I remember the conversation started with me talking about Ham Radio and how my favorite radio contact had been with McMurdo station on CW. These two guys were real interested.
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A big fish does not a space-alien make. This probably should be in cyrptozoology instead of the ET/UFO forum though. Is it now more scientific or plausible to equate unknown creatures with UFOs? I don't think the first modern scientist to see the Giant Squid or Komodo Dragon thought they were from outer space. If Nessie is real, does that mean her spaceship in somewhere in the Loch? But still an interesting story. If true, some sort of cryptic, unknown creature may very well have "gotten" the diver.
Here an article very similar to the original article that I read regarding this:
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Antarctic Mystery Lake and Deadly Creatures
By Joseph Held July 15, 2001
This is part of a conversation I had with my friend Bill, a down to earth ex-air force man who's seen enough things to know we are not alone. Anyway, this has to do with Antarctica, it's kinda spooky, so I thought I'd share it.
Joe: Haven't heard anything more about Vostok lately. It's been hushed up.
Bill: Yeah! I noticed that. When I was working with old navy divers working on Ice Harbor dam I heard an interesting story. They were in the Antarctic diving in a secret location way below the ice. They wouldn't say where. They had one buddy that was deep and panicked when something came at him. Whatever it was got him. They said it was not a whale or shark because it was in a fresh water lake. Inland. These guys had been professional divers their whole life. Made me realize that these guys were either diving in Vostok or there is a similar place somewhere else in the Antarctic that is secret. They said they refused to work any more at that location and the Navy flew them out, debriefed, and discharged them. But it was supposed to be quite close to McMurdo station and that is a long way from Vostok. I listened real good. As you know stories are what keep me going. Yeah! They were diving at the dam working for me. I was the Foreman They were doing the underwater work on the new spillways. When they were out of the water decompressing I would chat with them and this story came out. Yeah! It rang my bell at the time. In light of the Vostok story it has renewed my interest in the conversation. Strange goings on at the bottom of the world. They said that the guy underwater said a few words. "It's horrible I don't have a chance!" and "Don't come down here." before he screamed. I would like to know the real story on that one. You know that these sorts of things contain only a grain of the real facts. But these guys were so serious. And they were a couple of real serious first rate people. I'm sure about the fatality they were too serious about that.
Joe: The facility wasn't the McMurdo station, but somewhere else?
Bill: No Lake Vostok is way up in the central part of Antarctica in the region the Russians have claimed. McMurdo is on the western coastline. Somewhere close to McMurdo in fresh water. I know that there is no such known place. But I'm remembering them saying something about fresh water in caves. And that it was secret. I remember the conversation started with me talking about Ham Radio and how my favorite radio contact had been with McMurdo station on CW. These two guys were real interested.
Joe Held
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Antarctic Mystery Lake and Deadly Creatures
By Joseph Held July 15, 2001
This is part of a conversation I had with my friend Bill, a down to earth ex-air force man who's seen enough things to know we are not alone. Anyway, this has to do with Antarctica, it's kinda spooky, so I thought I'd share it.
Joe: Haven't heard anything more about Vostok lately. It's been hushed up.
Bill: Yeah! I noticed that. When I was working with old navy divers working on Ice Harbor dam I heard an interesting story. They were in the Antarctic diving in a secret location way below the ice. They wouldn't say where. They had one buddy that was deep and panicked when something came at him. Whatever it was got him. They said it was not a whale or shark because it was in a fresh water lake. Inland. These guys had been professional divers their whole life. Made me realize that these guys were either diving in Vostok or there is a similar place somewhere else in the Antarctic that is secret. They said they refused to work any more at that location and the Navy flew them out, debriefed, and discharged them. But it was supposed to be quite close to McMurdo station and that is a long way from Vostok. I listened real good. As you know stories are what keep me going. Yeah! They were diving at the dam working for me. I was the Foreman They were doing the underwater work on the new spillways. When they were out of the water decompressing I would chat with them and this story came out. Yeah! It rang my bell at the time. In light of the Vostok story it has renewed my interest in the conversation. Strange goings on at the bottom of the world. They said that the guy underwater said a few words. "It's horrible I don't have a chance!" and "Don't come down here." before he screamed. I would like to know the real story on that one. You know that these sorts of things contain only a grain of the real facts. But these guys were so serious. And they were a couple of real serious first rate people. I'm sure about the fatality they were too serious about that.
Joe: The facility wasn't the McMurdo station, but somewhere else?
Bill: No Lake Vostok is way up in the central part of Antarctica in the region the Russians have claimed. McMurdo is on the western coastline. Somewhere close to McMurdo in fresh water. I know that there is no such known place. But I'm remembering them saying something about fresh water in caves. And that it was secret. I remember the conversation started with me talking about Ham Radio and how my favorite radio contact had been with McMurdo station on CW. These two guys were real interested.
Joe Held
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