Seems that many of us are beginning to assume that our government has the cure for cancer, the key to limitless free energy, interstellar propulsion technology, information about extraterrestrial races currently visiting Earth, and even real alien space hardware.


Considering this, it shouldn't be too much of a stretch to assume that aliens are manipulating our government. This is a scary possibility with dangerous implications....

Would you rather crazy, powerhungry humans at rule, or possibly peaceful aliens?

Yes, and many people are wrong.

Many of us? I guess that depends on who us encompasses. I think I know one person that believes that there was a crash at Roswell, and that is about it. The rest of my friends and family are rather skeptical towards ET. And by our Government I presume you mean the US Government. I guess that many other Governments would have to be manipulated as well, or am I wrong?



Uhm, I would call quite a stretch, if not an outright fantasy from a very vivid imagination. First of all, why would Aliens even bother with manipulating Governments on Earth; I can simply not see a purpose in that. They are apparently so advanced, so if they need something I am sure they can grab it.

Best,
Badeskov

Well there are indications towards this possibility. However, as I see it, these aliens might be of more spiritual nature than actual physical other planet kind of nature. Basically all the leaders of the world at top levels are involved with the occult and secret orders which includes the contact with spiritual entities, for some even considered "gods", which they communicate with and get advice from, and even worship in many cases. I am personally affiliated with several such orders, and I am a lifelong student and practician of the occult and spiritual, so in my eyes this is a quite possible thing. I know for a 100% certain fact that this is real, and has tremendous possibilities.

I still think that they observe , but don't control. Our president is so illiterate, the aliens aren't.

This "many of us" is actually a minority. It might seem like more because of the nature of this board, which puts you in contact with like-minded people.



Any hypothesis about aliens manipulating government has to answer several questions, including "Why are they doing it?" and "Why are they keeping their talks with the government a secret?". The first is usually problematic.

David Icke says that the Bush family is really a bunch of giant, bloodsucking, shapeshifting, extraterrestrial reptiles, but I think he's being too nice.

You are wrong on all counts, the government have none of the above, so the question is redundent.

Jesus, Mary and Joseph. Where to start, where to start.

OK, firstly, you're right; if the first sentence is true, then the second doesn't take a massive leap of faith. But what on earth are you basing your assumptions on?? Have you not noticed how utterly useless the US and UK governments actually are? They can't plan and stage the invasion of a small, militarily inferior country without wading knee-deep in crap. What the hell makes you think they posses interstellar travel and "alien space hardware"????

Please, as I've said before on this board countless times, BACK UP YOUR CLAIMS OR THEY ARE USELESS.

What if-ing.... I will guess that an advanced species would not trust most politicians, current world leaders, or religious leaders in our present time. I think if they were looking for people with devotion to serving others, honor, courage, and strength, then they would more likely try to talk to some in command of the different militaries services across the planet. When communication is critical it is very important to speak with those who have been trained to mean exactly what they say and repeat what they hear accurately without adding any twists to it.

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If the government is in contact with spiritual beings from another planet. How did they get in contact with them?

I wanna contact these spiritual beings.

How? Whats your evidence?

lol ...so true

Not that I agree with any of this, but would you ever have imagined people attaching bombs to themselves and killing innocent civilians? Seems a terrible act of mutilation and brain wash, but people are doing it everyday. We as humans are doing the craziest of things, who's to say the "greys" are not?

If aliens are controlling our goverments then they must be the really thick aliens i mean just look at our goverments they are really thick also.

Can somebody please give me an answer to my question:

If the government is in contact with spiritual beings from another planet. How did they get in contact with them?

I wanna contact these spiritual beings.


If somebody knows how I can contact this spiritual beings or give me any advice about this. That would be very helpful. Thank you.

True, we have no idea what an Alien species would do as we have no idea of the psychology behind them and makes them tick. However, the idea of manipulating a government for some reason or other just seems so far out to me. They are obviously so advanced, so why would they even bother instead of just taking what they need, unless we are in one big petri bowl and being experimental subjects.

Best,
Badeskov

Very good point



imho It's a plausible scenario.

Hello we are experimental subjects. Haven't you ever heard of stories of people being abducted by aliens and having experiements done on them. Hello wake up and smell the rotten fish. I tell you. There's something fishy going on here in mayberry. What I mean is somethings up. And it's not good ethier. It's bad. I can feel it in my flesh. I can feel it in my bones. Something just doesn't seem right at all.

Why would THEY experiment on people below them on the trail to advance themselves?
Kind of useless don't you think!!
It is not plausible....is not likely and is not happening.
Of course this is my opinion because I have yet to have sp or hallucinate.

Don't you get it were seen as animals to them the aliens. It's like the Nazis with the Jewish people in Europe during the 1940's. The Nazis thought the Jewish people were nothing but cattle. And that the only job they could do because the Nazis saw the Jewish people as cattle were work to the death and starve to death. Well I wouldn't be surprised if the aliens see us in the same kind of light that the Nazis saw the Jewish people in the 1940's.

No offense if we ever or have came across alien beings i bet we would or have cut them open and experimented on them. We are no different when we find something new we experiment on it and research it.

That's not true and you are just using that illustration to fit towards alien beliefs so you can 'identify with them'.

Are you saying that the human race has never killed and disected something to do research on? Because we have.

All im saying is that we look down on animals, Insects and plants so maybe it is the same for a alien species maybe they look down on us and just see us as something to mess about with.

I dont think alien's are manipulating our goverment why would they need too? If the alien beings are advanced why would they need to manipulate us when they could probably just force us to do what they want us to do.

no matter how you look at this extraterrestial hype there is one factor that stands out, how advance is a civilization if a lower one insists to limit one or more areas?

Ugh. Politics are already crazy enough as it is, you don't need to bring in your alien conspiracies.

Our goverments are messed up anyway and if they were being manipulated by aliens then they are doing a damn crappy job about it.


Was the millenium dome in the UK a result from a alien species manipulating our goverment? Was their evil plan to baffle us with stupidity?

I doubt aliens are manipulating our goverments and if they are i doubt we have anything to fear since they are rubbish at doing it.

If one is to claim that there is an advance civilization that is light years ahead of ours that is the basis of my reply, do you have a problem with that? pointing out the extraterrestial hype is far from proposing a conspiracy unless of course you dont understand what you read and jump to conclusions.

Okay, let me makes myself clear. Our governments ARE NOT being controlled by aliens. Thats all. End of story, mystery solved.

I really don't understand this statement. Anyone?

scroll back to post #27

It still doesn't make much sense.

ok thanks.



Can you explain what this statement means? Limit to what areas?

Simply put, any limitations so as to bring down to you a level of understanding and yet still remain within a paradgm that best describes an advance civilization.

Thanks I get it now..
er wait no I don't...
Can you reword it just a a tad with the emphases on the word 'simply'

Wow I never knew my post about:

Don't you get it were seen as animals to them the aliens. It's like the Nazis with the Jewish people in Europe during the 1940's. The Nazis thought the Jewish people were nothing but cattle. And that the only job they could do because the Nazis saw the Jewish people as cattle were work to the death and starve to death. Well I wouldn't be surprised if the aliens see us in the same kind of light that the Nazis saw the Jewish people in the 1940's.

Would make a big arguement on this thread. I guess I was wrong.

Yeah, what with keeping their race 'pure' and seeing themselves as the 'master' race.
OK That's the Jews out the way, now onto the Nazi's..

So you believe that an advance civilization would be one that promotes itself as a 'master' race? advancing is progression and that seems all too much like regress rather than progress. They must then have a problem with their scope of observation. Isnt the fact that many claim 'aliens' at least observe humans? perhaps they are so advanced intellectually that they just decided that instead of co-existing with the ancient cultures in harmony they must now revert to anti-social behavior.

Yes, it is. You're absolutely right, especially when it's a faction of evil dark aliens who are manipulating our government.

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~ Isis

a faction of evil dark aliens? lol fixation of dark aliens surrounds the thought of something mysterious.

Ok. Yes evil dark aliens might be a little far fetched. But you certainly can't consider it not to be a possibility now can you. I believe that there are at least some if not more evil dark alien races out there who would want nothing better to do. Then to hurt or even making the human race extinct like the dinos. In fact, I kind of have a feeling that Satan and his followers are here on Earth trying to do just that. Just a feeling. Like a gut feeling. But there's also good aliens here on Earth as well who want nothing else to do but to save the human race from these bad aliens. Their the ones that work for God. Let's pray to Heaven on high that the good side wins over the bad.

??? let me get this straight, first you express this:

then you express this:



'far fetched' means not to be taken seriously lol I see an intermingling of mein kampf and then digress to refer to satan and his followers, perhaps trying to identify biblical frames of reference to then modify that towards an alternative interpretation so as to promote universiality within the various belief systems. Are you doing this so you can feel accepted?

I think er no er I mean a yes but it's all wrong, that is... I think I disagree.

you think you disagree with no explanation?

The explanation is neutralized within the paradigm shift of questionable origins.

Well, if you put it that way, the adjunct vociferation doesn't coincide with the absolute paradigm of the adjacent bilateral phase of reinforcement.

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~ Isis

how is it neutralized? lets drag this out to small increments so that perhaps we will come to a conclusion. Define advanced 'civilization' what all components necessary would be in place to enable an alien civilization to be light years advanced than us lowly humans if taking all basic common references together and concluding that, yes that would equate to being an advanced civilization.