What?are you serious,Christians worship God,Jesus and the Holy spirit of God"the Holy Trinity" all are backed by very credible sources.Islam NOT mohammed was a mad man who lusted after small children and wasn't sure of his own salvation{after a life of service to ala whatever}.The only mistake the jews made was rejecting the Messiah,and there is still time to change for the ones alive today.PS don't forget the muslims are the ones strapping bombs to their waist and blowing up innocent people daily{freaks]!!!!!They are the ones starting wars...

Because they agree with the radical views.they all do,Anyone of them who claim otherwise is a liar!Soon they will get there Holy war and will be completely destroyed and forced into hiding!I can't wait.

The West has started all the modern wars against Islam not the other way around. They strap bombs to their waist because they do not have US tax payed jets, tanks, guns, and bombs. That is what is called asymmetrical warfare since one side has superior weapons and the other does not. In most cases the ones with the superior weapons are the main aggressors. Do not forget the definition of State Terrorism and how many innocent Muslims die at the hands of the West and Israel. If it was your family members dying this way I bet you might be inclined to strap bombs to your waist in revenge. Do not blame religion blame the greed of the leaders of the West.

Femanazi? just kidding I haven't read the book but agree that women have long been treated unfairly by most religions,and definately undervalued.I am personally disturbed by the way islam treats women and the lack of outrage by our goverments,US,UK,France ect.....

Are you kidding? Twin towers,they deserve the retaliation from Isreal,and the USA{GREAT SATAN}.Those people are animals and should be treated accordingly,put them down when they show signs of rabies{and they do!!!!!}

911 was planned by the US government. No one should be treated or viewed as animals but doing so is part of the problem. If you care about what happened at 911 find out the truth:

Skip to second hour for 911 info. If you can seriously say Muslims were behind 911 after watching then be sure to let us know.

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

I guess you didn't hear the news about the muslims that were flying the hijacked planes into the twin towers,I am amazed at people that look past the obvious.Islam is EVIL,EVIL THEY ARE THE GREAT SATAN!!!YOU ARE BUYING LIES AND ISLAM PROPAGANDA,I guess you believe that the holocaust never happened either,muslims don't.

In all parts of the world there is the story of the great flood and the one who found grace and was allowed to survive weather it is Noah or Ziusudra it would mean we are all brothers and sisters but science wont admit the flood story is real but even now they admit that at one time the earth was covered with water.
Today we see how religions are distorted from 500 years ago till now so all are tainted with lies and untruths just like if you line up 100 people and whisper in the ear of the first ,by the time it gets to the last it is a different story.
so to is history people are to busy living in the past and arguing over things of unimportance's if we look to the future and leave the past were it is, we could have a beautiful world, but instead we have people robbing grave to see what they knew in the past and others saying how my god is better then your god and he gave me this land.
he is the same god and he gave us all the land to share and told us to love one another and even Adam and Eve if they were the first as it is stated in the scriptures then again we are all brothers and sisters.

Actually, UM.com is a great illustration of this. Someone starts a thread and then it just evolves and during many moments it will have absolutely nothing to do with the initial topic. I kinda like watching the "evolution of the thread."

Truethat doesnt know the truth!

Muslims dont worship Muhammad PBUH.

Could be wrong here, but many Christians believe that Jesus WAS God in the flesh.

That is generally the point in calling him the "son of God" I thought. He's not simply a prophet, but God (or part of God) himself.

Jesus is the sun-god of an ancient Egyptian religion plagiarized to death.

Light of the World? the sun...
Crown of Thorns? The sun, as you will see it if you try to open your eyes wide to it...
Son of God? Sun of God...
Only begotten Son? of Osiris, the highest egyptian God...
Birth accompanied by "a star in the east"? That really means that christian faith would suggest that the day Jesus was born a star never before seen came into view...

But then again its not like Horus brought "a star in the East", he was heralded by the morning star, Sirius.
Horus was baptised by Anup the Baptist at age 30, anup was soon after beheaded... Reminiscent of John the Baptist, No?

Does Pisces the fish have anything to do with Jesus? or for that matter... Horus?
Jesus being the "shepherd" of mankind just seems so eerie, considering how often Horus was depicted with the shepherd's crook.

If all that is too much, why then is Jesus always depicted with THE SUN behind his head?


EDIT: until i shaved today jesus looked alot like me... lol.

This is not a recent charge but seems to have been gaining more momentum lately.



There is a difference between the Greek words 'helios' and 'phos'. Matthew 5:14 claims believers are the light of the world too and then the light is then compared to good works. Jesus also refers to Himself as the light of world in John 9 but it was in reference of those having the light would not walk in darkness. No one believes this to be the kind of darkness without the sunlight but rather ignorance of divine things and wickedness. The light of the world being compared to the sun can only be a comparison that one lacking in biblical knowledge can make.



Squinting? I have never found sound doctrine in squinting.



Son and sun are hardly homophones in other languages besides English that I know of. They certainly are not homophones in the Greek. This comparison is a mistake one makes when they lack knowledge of language besides English.



Horus as Ra or as Osiris is a Hellenic conception and not an Egyptian one.





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horus



A star never seen is one explanation among several but all are considered speculation since the Bible is not definitive on which theory is correct.



There is no proof within any classical sources of this belief that Horus was baptized by Anubis at the age of 30. This is a modern invention of the internet and can be found on many sites but none reliable.



Horus has a staff but it is not a shepherd's staff. The crook and flail belongs to Osiris. A quick search on google images between the two will reveal the difference.



This is totally nonbiblical and no where does it say Jesus should be represented in this manner. The sun behind the head can be attributed to ancient pagan art. When Rome convened the Council of Nicaea part of what they did was change many of the pagan beliefs held across the Empire and added a Christian facade over them. All nonbiblical.



This might be the best proof you have offered so far

Mostly everything you offered is part of the same list circulated among several sites. This link has the rest of the comparisons which any amateur student of mythology can research and find that most of the comparisons are all false while the rest can be attributed to the Roman state sponsored influence of sponsoring Christianity which added in many pagan elements all which are nonbiblical.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa5.htm

Here is a site that debunks some of that list which also shows that the original comparison between Christ and Horus was initially made by soemone with very little knowledge of the Bible, since they claimed Christ had three wise men while Horus had three solar deities but the Bible actually never mentions the number of wise men and believing they were three is just a common misconception, and they also had no knowledge of ancient Egypt since they claim the birth of Christ and Horus were both heralded by an angel though ancient Egyptian mythology has no belief in angels.

Ending the Myth of Horus

There have been stronger cases made to compare Jesus to previous myths but the one religioustolerance.org offers is sadly weak.

not alot of difference between you and Islamic extremists is there ?


it's fundie thinking like this that makes me glad we don't live in a relgious run country like in the middle east. Other wise with Christianity at about 80% of the population ........ those fundie few would have us no different than the extremists.

thankfully those founding fathers didn't found the country on religion. smart guys.

Things can change Lieutenant

There are some danger signs in the horizon

I was shocked to see someone like Hucakabee get so many votes

To some degree Obama maybe right

Declining US economy is making people turn to fundamentalism, fanaticism and guns

There are some solid roadblocks placed though for christian fundies though

1 is presence of a large educated middle class in the US

Another is the power jewish aristocracy wields over the US government

Overall I think it is unlikely some extremist christian sect can get absolute control over the US government during current times.

Thank you Clovis for dealing with all of those misconnections between Jesus and Horus. I am so sick of seeing those, especially "son of god -> sun of god" which pretty much only works in English (and even then, not really).

Also, as far as Jesus being portrayed often with a "sun" behind his head...One might take into consideration that other holy figures, especially the Buddha, are often portrayed with a Golden Disc behind their heads.
For instance:
http://www.utilitarianism.com/gautama-buddha.jpg
So do you think Buddha, too is a misrepresentation of the Sky God of Egypt now?

A better theory is that the Golden Disc is derived from auric sight. It is said (I can't say from experience; I cannot see auras) that the aura of a person with spiritual knowledge will have a golden "halo" (or disc?) around the area of his head. Someone like the Buddha or Jesus would be seen as on another level entirely from a "person with spiritual knowledge," I'm sure all of us can agree. Thus it is fairly safe to assume that (in keeping with this theory and not arguing about "auras don't exist" and whatnot) the portrayal of Jesus with a Golden Disc behind his head is simply an artistic technique lifted straight out of the ancient pagan world.

All Abrahamic religions came out of the desert, Islam from the worship of the moon god, a good candidate for Christianity is the Magi