This account is offered to the UM community (skeptics, agnostics and all) for whatever insights may arise.

Starting from an utterly naive state of mind concerning religious, metaphysical, spiritual or transpersonal knowledge at age 42, I spontaneously experienced a nirvikalpa samadhi- triggered by an ecstatic climax culminating a sexual episode. After a year of effort to understand and integrate the Neo Tantra-like scenario which occurred in 1970, I wrote up an account and finally in 1997 published it in a website at- http://geocities.com/maya-gaia/mysticalexp.html

The website has since evolved into a chronical of my exploration through the fields of new science, classical metaphysics and integrative spirituality to hypothesize a personal, plausible model of reality compatable with my transcendent experience- along with a variety of paranormal events along the way. A distinction is suggested between the non-duality experienced in higher samadhi and the OOB and NDE states in which entities, etc. are met in a state of duality.

Although I have no doubt that I experienced a high samadhi and interacted with and finally became one with a God consciousness- I am only enlightened to the extent that I know the reality of it and how at death we become joined in that consciousness of light, bliss and love. The only tangible transformation in my character is that I was imbued with an imperative compassion for a holistic nature- but strangely one that did not extend to humankind. Nor have I become a beautiful person in terms of my interpersonal behavior. I remain ego-centered and except for my environmental activism and
preoccupation with my website, uninvolved in any spiritual practice. So although I feel fully realized, I feel yet unenlightened.

In this reality, even high Samadhi is graced absent of any moral criteria or judgment whatsoever -that God grants us free will, not only to interpret the transcendent insight, but to subsequently reform our ego and shape its character and behavior within its full range from honesty to hypocricy - from love to misanthropy - from messianic missionary to detatched recluse.

In a related perspective, Ken Wilber at http://wilber.shambhala.com/html/books/boo...bar_h/index.cfm defines the boomeritus effect and analysizes the interplay of transcendent and rational consciousness that results in a variety of states and stages of enlightenment.

Samadhi answers some of the ultimate mystery but our free will determines if the transcendent experience is integrated into an enlightened, spiritualy constructive lifestyle and still unanswered is the question- is samadhi of a certain level essential for attaining enlightenment- and is the only valid reply cut-and-paste axioms from Vedic and Buddhist doctrine?

Hi-first of all, let me welcome you to u-m. I won't go into detail, because it would step on your post, but I, too have had similiar experiences after sex. The weird thing is, that it doesn't seem to happen during sex. I suspect that such experiences are "given" to us by Spirit to lead us to even greater knowledge. Instead, I had something weird happen to me in my early twenties I thought I would relate. Not "Samadhi", but something reassuring at the time. I was about to eat a hard-boiled egg. I removed the shell, only to find an inner membrane enclosing the white part of the egg. I removed the membrane, then proceeded to pull apart the egg with my thumbs. It seemed that the egg had layer upon layer, ending up with the yolk. I experienced, momentarily, diving through all the layers, into the (solid) center of the yolk. No, there were no drugs or alcohol involved. Just as quickly, the event was over.

Can you maybe explain to me how this ties together? Im not understanding why you mentioned this happened after you "did the deed."

no, it happened while eating a hard-boiled egg. Nothing to do with sex.

In a way I feel like i just read spam from what would be now, if my math is right and judging from the timetable, a 72 year old person.

Secondly, I'd like to thank the Gideon for insuring I never look at a hard boiled egg with the eyes of innocence again.

That is all.

To Goddess
Naturally I figured perhaps wrongly that this forum would be interested in the substance of a posting- and the experience described happened when I was 42 and (gasp!) I am presently 78- which could suggest unless you suffer from elderphobia, there may be sage-like wisdom forthcoming if you stay open-minded- or not.

To Gideon Mage:
I return your sincerity in welcoming Maya-Gaia into your sagacious presence where apparently you regularly lurk to proclaim your uber wisdom on the numinous world and offer the following regarding your remarkable revelation.

I will quote from the Visuddhimagga by Bhadantarcariya Buddhaghosa, translated by Bhikkhu Syanamoli, A. Semage, Ceylon, 1964...which relates to becoming aware of right actions instead of throwing away your seed: "The first transcendent shell is called the first jhana in the Visuddhimagga system, but you seem to have gone beyond the first jhana. You may have gone beyond all the congealed jhanas to the alogahana yolk of ignorance.

Since you still were involved with the yolk, you would have been in the first state of ignorance, (page 245-256). Very few people reach that point. If you had gone further, you would have been in a state it sounds like you didn't reach, from your description: the base consisting of (samatikamma) boundless ignorance. page 224"

Guess I'm about to discover whether there are any other than skeptics in this community.

Personally I do not want to reach any stage of ignorance but thats just my opinion.

or perhaps I just did.................

Perhaps your thread assisted us both to learn something from the other. Never be so ignorant as to presume you know anyone by that first impression alone. And most certainly never imply a phobia, where an opinion exists. This will then serve as an example of an open mind, rather than a defensive insecurity.


Welcome to UM.

Hi Goddess:
Thanks for expressing the epithany we both share- whereby the bubble of limitations we create around us veiling our mind- suddenly "pops" to open the infinite.

Oh, stick around. I think you'll find I pop quite regularly. Here, there, most anywhere you'll find me a poppin.


So, do you like grape gaga or strawberry bubble slush, when you do the same!? -offers you gum-

Wow! It's positively paranormal how you instantly came up with that popping anima...right on the mark! I only popped once and expect to vanish the next time.

Glad you're impressed. lol I found it here: http://www.emotihost.com/glass4/

It's not been that long since I've had the occasion to be on-line or in these forums more often. Now I'm the artist that's like a kid, finding new image places that host smileys and such, so I can add them to my posts. It makes things more lively, I think, than just plain old words alone.

Oh yeah, I wouldn't worry about fear of vanishing after more than one pop. Even that would be a new experience, after all.

I'm all about experience. I figure it's why we're here. ok, that's gonna leave a mark.

[quote name='maya-gaia' date='Dec 22 2006, 05:34 PM' post='1471234']
Wow!
Hi maya.gaia

I've looked into the Tantric schools myself. What school of tantra did you say you were from or a student of ? The next guestion is how do you know you reached the real state of samadi, especially if you never achieved it before, smile. Lastly was their any technique involved or specific teachings. I have a few tapes that shows spiritual chants ets.?
I have e few stories of my own but I better not put them on the net . Last time it got sensored,smile!

Samadhi is simply a state of repose, silence, beingness without thought, or simply rest while awake.... very easily achieved through medatation , actually is.......

One can achieve this state in the course of living it is said to be walking meditation......... scrubbing the floor can be turned into a meditation, washing the dishes, this is a state of beingness brought to the moment consistently.....

It turns anything into the value that it is meant to be, taht is waht is meant by seek the perfection first..... generally those that have mastery over life seek this state of beingness as a tool to enrich and navigate life, it also reminds one that what is showing up is perfect because at some level one intended for it...

this is the path of enlightenment and self realization.....


GW your suggetion is valuable and clear you know of this conciousness.....

yes one doesn't judge on appearances at all, one doesn't judge, that is a clue one is caught in the illusion.......In samadhi one is who they are truely , free and unlimited by constructs, just pure beingness and from this all possiblity springs .....silence AKA the unknown..

One last thing there aren't words really for this awarenss but you will have no doubt or confusin that you have seen your essence, some call it god, some call it spirit some call it soul., some call it nothing at all...........

Some might say we are this consciousness. That what we imagine is there to be found, is really just that which is to be re-cognized. Some might say. Not all, mind ya. Just some.

Gee, Some might agree with you that it is just a process of re-membering to that which we are anyways, all of it.... that kin-dness(The actual meaning ) we are all kin ( kindred ) and re- cognizing this, gods/goddesses IN-formation............not all I agree but some... the ones that are awake.......

I don't consider great sex a religious experience. But that's just me.

as I, i consider it as it was intended, to celebrate the two becoming one, with a little fireworks for effect and enjoyment....lol

Oh then I'd say you've sexed the wronnnnng people! Or, maybe none at all. There's a reason they call orgasm "little death".
But that's just me.

I could bump it up to $250 but I'm on a tight budget.

To GW:
Oh I'm absolutely fearless about my vanishing pop...that's what samadhi is all about and- yea, those emoticons and animas definitely perk up your posts.

To jrree57:
Of course any "knowing" is subjective and relative and there's a God-awe-full lot of conflicting "opinions". There's a compendium of Hindu and Buddhist versions of classical Tantra plus all the neo-tantra innovations. All my insight is based on my own revelation from a state of virtually no knowledge and have found no "school" that reveals the true reality.
To explore the samadhi credibility issue- go to Google search and enter> credibility+transcendent+revelation
To explore Tantra- go to Google search and enter> links+tantra+kundalini+transcendence

To Supra Sheri:
You pose some wise words- "there aren't words really for this awarenss"...and..."some call it nothing at all"
The Chinese sages expressed it: "The Tao that can be spoken is not the real Tao" but think there is a much wider distinction than you imply between ordinary states of meditation, lower states of samadhi and nirvikalpa samadhi. Check out> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvikalpa.

To Ashigaru:
It's natural you won't consider great sex a religious experience until you have great!!! sex!!! ...wha dat?

maya will do thanks for the link......I was giving from experince, and wanted to be all inclusive..., i try to avoid labels , as it limits the experinceIMO , each defines it in their own way.i was respecting that...I do agree it is the language of silence....

[quote name='maya-gaia' date='Dec 23 2006, 07:27 PM' post='1472351']
To GW:
Oh I'm absolutely fearless about my vanishing pop...that's what samadhi is all about and- yea, those emoticons and animas definitely perk up your posts.

To jrree57:
Of course any "knowing" is subjective and relative and there's a God-awe-full lot of conflicting "opinions". There's a compendium of Hindu and Buddhist versions of classical Tantra plus all the neo-tantra innovations. All my insight is based on my own revelation from a state of virtually no knowledge and have found no "school" that reveals the true reality.
To explore the samadhi credibility issue- go to Google search and enter> credibility+transcendent+revelation
To explore Tantra- go to Google search and enter> links+tantra+kundalini+transcendence

Hi maya gaia,

Thanks for answering my question,

The art of Tantra was a well kept secrete but I was fortunate to find three groups of witch had active high priestess.

Many stories I could tell you about them and strange ,I'll call it sexual powers, I or probably few in know exist.

Remember the last time I talk to somebody women about her orgasim, some body ,administrator- had no I deal what I

was talking about an pulled my log. So I'm sorry I cannot tell you more ,just stay on your path? Oh, I will say this did you

know that a women has seven levels of orgasim and tha thier is a certain to activate each one.That is to say-until she

learns to do it her self, throught mediataion