just found this on Youtube
[post="http://youtube.com/watch?v=VwT9-xdEes8&mode=related&search="]Hangar on the moon[/post]
And also this pic with google (this is not related to the video)
I also know there is a video with very reliable people (high ranked military people, ex-nasa employees...) who claim that nasa has proof there is a base on the dark side of the moon, and they want to bring this to senate.
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QUOTE(anonymous007 @ Dec 22 2006, 12:41 AM) [snapback]1470426[/snapback]
just found this on Youtube
[post="http://youtube.com/watch?v=VwT9-xdEes8&mode=related&search="]Hangar on the moon[/post]
And also this pic with google (this is not related to the video)
I also know there is a video with very reliable people (high ranked military people, ex-nasa employees...) who claim that nasa has proof there is a base on the dark side of the moon, and they want to bring this to senate.
[post="http://youtube.com/watch?v=VwT9-xdEes8&mode=related&search="]Hangar on the moon[/post]
And also this pic with google (this is not related to the video)
I also know there is a video with very reliable people (high ranked military people, ex-nasa employees...) who claim that nasa has proof there is a base on the dark side of the moon, and they want to bring this to senate.
The video is obviously faked, but sort of eerie and creepy still. Why does Mexican TV always show that sort of thing? >.> The moon-base picture looks pretty suspicious as well...
Nena you're a wise women. Moon base? 
The_Truth.
The_Truth.
The link is not working.
Anyway, I saw a sergant in a interview tell about buildings and bases he had seen on the moon when he visited a friend at NASA and was shown some photos of the moon there. Interesting stuff, maybe thats why we never went back there, if we ever did in the first place
Anyway, I saw a sergant in a interview tell about buildings and bases he had seen on the moon when he visited a friend at NASA and was shown some photos of the moon there. Interesting stuff, maybe thats why we never went back there, if we ever did in the first place
QUOTE(darkbreed @ Dec 22 2006, 01:56 AM) [snapback]1470488[/snapback]
The link is not working.
Anyway, I saw a sergant in a interview tell about buildings and bases he had seen on the moon when he visited a friend at NASA and was shown some photos of the moon there. Interesting stuff, maybe thats why we never went back there, if we ever did in the first place
Anyway, I saw a sergant in a interview tell about buildings and bases he had seen on the moon when he visited a friend at NASA and was shown some photos of the moon there. Interesting stuff, maybe thats why we never went back there, if we ever did in the first place
This is the link. Seems like he added an incorrect parameter there...
There's no reason that spacefaring creatures couldn't exist and couldn't have bases on the Moon or anywhere else they felt like putting them. So it always baffles me that anyone would want to fake pictures of it. It's like any other thing that sounds far-fetched but could be true. Like, let's say I showed you a photo of myself shaking hands with Henry Kissinger, and you said, hey, whaddya know, you shook hands with Kissinger. And I responded, hahaha you fool, I photoshopped that. What the hell would be the point of that? All I've proved is that I'm a jerk.
Maybe the assumption behind such a prank is that it couldn't be true, and so anyone who believes it must be stupid. Maybe the idea is "haha, I'm smarter than you." If so, I think the joke relies on a mistaken assumption.
Or maybe the idea is to saturate the media with fakes so that people think anything about UFOs etc. is bogus. In short, a disinformation campaign. A more paranoid interpretation of the hoaxers' craft.
Maybe the assumption behind such a prank is that it couldn't be true, and so anyone who believes it must be stupid. Maybe the idea is "haha, I'm smarter than you." If so, I think the joke relies on a mistaken assumption.
Or maybe the idea is to saturate the media with fakes so that people think anything about UFOs etc. is bogus. In short, a disinformation campaign. A more paranoid interpretation of the hoaxers' craft.
QUOTE(boorite @ Dec 21 2006, 08:30 PM) [snapback]1470517[/snapback]
There's no reason that spacefaring creatures couldn't exist and couldn't have bases on the Moon or anywhere else they felt like putting them. So it always baffles me that anyone would want to fake pictures of it. It's like any other thing that sounds far-fetched but could be true. Like, let's say I showed you a photo of myself shaking hands with Henry Kissinger, and you said, hey, whaddya know, you shook hands with Kissinger. And I responded, hahaha you fool, I photoshopped that. What the hell would be the point of that? All I've proved is that I'm a jerk.
Maybe the assumption behind such a prank is that it couldn't be true, and so anyone who believes it must be stupid. Maybe the idea is "haha, I'm smarter than you." If so, I think the joke relies on a mistaken assumption.
Or maybe the idea is to saturate the media with fakes so that people think anything about UFOs etc. is bogus. In short, a disinformation campaign. A more paranoid interpretation of the hoaxers' craft.
Maybe the assumption behind such a prank is that it couldn't be true, and so anyone who believes it must be stupid. Maybe the idea is "haha, I'm smarter than you." If so, I think the joke relies on a mistaken assumption.
Or maybe the idea is to saturate the media with fakes so that people think anything about UFOs etc. is bogus. In short, a disinformation campaign. A more paranoid interpretation of the hoaxers' craft.
Boorite,
You sound like a rational human being, and a very nice person. I certainly understand why you would question someone's motives for faking pictures of something like this.
As such, the following might not be in your mind-set, but the "why" of this matter could be something else.
One could fake such a thing in order to publish it, complete with outlandish claims and such, as has been done by the various authors who originated the moon hoax claims, in order to profit from those who are gullible enough to buy into their ideas.
Today, that's a pretty good motive. Profit.
Of course, the normal, rational person has no need for such baloney.
But the originators of things like this moon-base thing, or the moon hoax idea--they know full well they're perpetrating a complete mythology. But they feel good about themselves, because they're raking in money from a gullible generation of people who buy their products. That was their point in the first place, and they'll continue to defend their notions for as long as the cash comes in.
They likely know they're dead wrong (they were intelligent enough to recognize a market for their product, and astute enough to time it perfectly, thus , they also have to know full well they're perpetrating a fallacy), but they sit there counting their windfall and laughing. They do not mind looking like fools in the eyes of the scientific community, because they're preying on the non-scientific community for their living. Their customer base is not among those who know what happened, and how.
That, to me, is a very good reason to do such things.
QUOTE(boorite @ Dec 22 2006, 02:30 AM) [snapback]1470517[/snapback]
There's no reason that spacefaring creatures couldn't exist and couldn't have bases on the Moon or anywhere else they felt like putting them. So it always baffles me that anyone would want to fake pictures of it. It's like any other thing that sounds far-fetched but could be true. Like, let's say I showed you a photo of myself shaking hands with Henry Kissinger, and you said, hey, whaddya know, you shook hands with Kissinger. And I responded, hahaha you fool, I photoshopped that. What the hell would be the point of that? All I've proved is that I'm a jerk.
Maybe the assumption behind such a prank is that it couldn't be true, and so anyone who believes it must be stupid. Maybe the idea is "haha, I'm smarter than you." If so, I think the joke relies on a mistaken assumption.
Or maybe the idea is to saturate the media with fakes so that people think anything about UFOs etc. is bogus. In short, a disinformation campaign. A more paranoid interpretation of the hoaxers' craft.
Maybe the assumption behind such a prank is that it couldn't be true, and so anyone who believes it must be stupid. Maybe the idea is "haha, I'm smarter than you." If so, I think the joke relies on a mistaken assumption.
Or maybe the idea is to saturate the media with fakes so that people think anything about UFOs etc. is bogus. In short, a disinformation campaign. A more paranoid interpretation of the hoaxers' craft.
There's no reason why there'd be a race of spacefaring highly intelligent beings making bases on the dark-side of the moon. Why the moon? Are they going to harvest minerals or something there? Stealing it for domestic use back on their planet revolving around a star somewhere in Orion? It's really fun to make hoaxes, you know, ever tried it? I made a series of pictures depicting UFO's back in fifth grade. They looked really nice despite the simple method used, and thanks to the low quality of the digi-cams at the time the fishing line I used to suspend the objects was not much visible. Not that I spread those around claiming they were real though. But not all pictures are circulated on behalf of their creators efforts. Some frauds might simple be made on fun and then someone else comes across it and eventually it might catch on and spread like wildfire...
The answer is: yes I have heard people talk about "moon bases", and I am sick of it. It's not true. End of story.
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Boorite,
You sound like a rational human being, and a very nice person. I certainly understand why you would question someone's motives for faking pictures of something like this.
As such, the following might not be in your mind-set, but the "why" of this matter could be something else.
One could fake such a thing in order to publish it, complete with outlandish claims and such, as has been done by the various authors who originated the moon hoax claims, in order to profit from those who are gullible enough to buy into their ideas.
Today, that's a pretty good motive. Profit.
Of course, the normal, rational person has no need for such baloney.
But the originators of things like this moon-base thing, or the moon hoax idea--they know full well they're perpetrating a complete mythology. But they feel good about themselves, because they're raking in money from a gullible generation of people who buy their products. That was their point in the first place, and they'll continue to defend their notions for as long as the cash comes in.
They likely know they're dead wrong (they were intelligent enough to recognize a market for their product, and astute enough to time it perfectly, thus , they also have to know full well they're perpetrating a fallacy), but they sit there counting their windfall and laughing. They do not mind looking like fools in the eyes of the scientific community, because they're preying on the non-scientific community for their living. Their customer base is not among those who know what happened, and how.
That, to me, is a very good reason to do such things.
You sound like a rational human being, and a very nice person. I certainly understand why you would question someone's motives for faking pictures of something like this.
As such, the following might not be in your mind-set, but the "why" of this matter could be something else.
One could fake such a thing in order to publish it, complete with outlandish claims and such, as has been done by the various authors who originated the moon hoax claims, in order to profit from those who are gullible enough to buy into their ideas.
Today, that's a pretty good motive. Profit.
Of course, the normal, rational person has no need for such baloney.
But the originators of things like this moon-base thing, or the moon hoax idea--they know full well they're perpetrating a complete mythology. But they feel good about themselves, because they're raking in money from a gullible generation of people who buy their products. That was their point in the first place, and they'll continue to defend their notions for as long as the cash comes in.
They likely know they're dead wrong (they were intelligent enough to recognize a market for their product, and astute enough to time it perfectly, thus , they also have to know full well they're perpetrating a fallacy), but they sit there counting their windfall and laughing. They do not mind looking like fools in the eyes of the scientific community, because they're preying on the non-scientific community for their living. Their customer base is not among those who know what happened, and how.
That, to me, is a very good reason to do such things.
You talk as if you know all these people! of course i know that there is alot of money to be made in this, but that does not mean that they are all lying and are all monet grabbers.
QUOTE(MID @ Dec 22 2006, 02:27 AM) [snapback]1470565[/snapback]
They likely know they're dead wrong (they were intelligent enough to recognize a market for their product, and astute enough to time it perfectly, thus , they also have to know full well they're perpetrating a fallacy), but they sit there counting their windfall and laughing. They do not mind looking like fools in the eyes of the scientific community, because they're preying on the non-scientific community for their living. Their customer base is not among those who know what happened, and how.
That, to me, is a very good reason to do such things.
That, to me, is a very good reason to do such things.
The potential for making money is a strong motivation. And if the person happens to have very few scruples, well, there you go.
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You talk as if you know all these people! of course i know that there is alot of money to be made in this, but that does not mean that they are all lying and are all monet grabbers.
Perhaps not, but if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and has feathers like a duck....It's probably a duck!
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Perhaps not, but if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and has feathers like a duck....It's probably a duck!
some examples?
Take the disclosure project, alot of people come across as very credible. Some having very important jobs. Are they all lying, all 500 plus of them?
The inside of that base looked too much like a 'set'
Reminds me of that Martian-landing video. Some of the government conspiracy stories say we secretly visited Mars in the 1950's using captured Alien technology. A few years ago, footage surfaced on the internet purported to be from this visit. It showed the astronaut's eyes view of the martian landscape as they landed, and some kind of burrowing creature fleeing from the landing craft. This caused the astronauts voices to get excited. Seemed to elaborate for an internet fake, but later it turned out that it was a clip taken from some obscure movie.
Reminds me of that Martian-landing video. Some of the government conspiracy stories say we secretly visited Mars in the 1950's using captured Alien technology. A few years ago, footage surfaced on the internet purported to be from this visit. It showed the astronaut's eyes view of the martian landscape as they landed, and some kind of burrowing creature fleeing from the landing craft. This caused the astronauts voices to get excited. Seemed to elaborate for an internet fake, but later it turned out that it was a clip taken from some obscure movie.
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Sadly, scamming has a long history.
HHHmmm!
Well we all know that, and when it comes to the ufo subject there are many. The worse for me is Billy Meier. Also, there is a long history of good cases being ignored or has many questions left anaswerd
For me, the disclosure project witnesess ( if you have watched it
) cant be put into that same catagory. Alot of them are very credible and respected in there field. Some appear really genuine, and i have no reason not to believe them. People say they have no evidence, and that is true. But its like when you feel someone is lying or not lying, you have a feeling. I know its just a feeling,and it can be wrong, but that feeling has served me well in the past. I guess it comes from the same place when you meet someone for the first time, your first impressions of the person kind of stick, and alot of the times you kind of know what that person is going to be like by there eyes, body lauguage etc
I've seen this somewhere before. Doesn't look credible to me.
I belive it is fake.
this video is so fake:)
QUOTE(MR_MOE @ Dec 21 2006, 06:51 PM) [snapback]1470588[/snapback]
The answer is: yes I have heard people talk about "moon bases", and I am sick of it. It's not true. End of story.
The story isn't quiet over yet. How do you know that there isn't any alien bases on the moon. Do you have proof to back up your claims. Instead of just saying oh there's no alien bases on the moon end of story. You can't just say that and expect people to believe you. You must have proof to back up what you say. In order for it to be proven true or not. And another question, did NASA ever go to the darkside of the moon and explored that area. Because if they didn't. Then there's no telling what could be on the darkside of the moon. Who knows there just might be alien bases on the darkside of the moon. So please don't be so ignorant. Try to keep an open mind.
Cheers,
Mac
Yeah thats my hangar. Its where Ive been keeping my death ray. I might as well tell you...because im going to use it soon anyway.
you know what drives me nuts about all these posts on here about how there is no way this and no way that? We have not explored 70% of our own ocean and about 50% of the rain forest ect. We have lived on this planet for thousands of years and we find new thing and species all the time. And how much of the moon have we explored? Less than 1%? Anything is possible so stop being so closed minded!!!!!!
QUOTE(McKenna @ Dec 22 2006, 12:01 AM) [snapback]1470834[/snapback]
The story isn't quiet over yet. How do you know that there isn't any alien bases on the moon. Do you have proof to back up your claims. Instead of just saying oh there's no alien bases on the moon end of story. You can't just say that and expect people to believe you. You must have proof to back up what you say. In order for it to be proven true or not. And another question, did NASA ever go to the darkside of the moon and explored that area. Because if they didn't. Then there's no telling what could be on the darkside of the moon. Who knows there just might be alien bases on the darkside of the moon. So please don't be so ignorant. Try to keep an open mind.
Cheers,
Mac
Cheers,
Mac
There is even less evidence that there is "moon bases" , so I have to go with the "no moon bases". And I don't expect everyone to agree with me, because I know that not everyone is logical and realistic.
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you know what drives me nuts about all these posts on here about how there is no way this and no way that? We have not explored 70% of our own ocean and about 50% of the rain forest ect. We have lived on this planet for thousands of years and we find new thing and species all the time. And how much of the moon have we explored? Less than 1%? Anything is possible so stop being so closed minded!!!!!!
We may have lived on the planet for a while, but it is just now we have the technologies to actually explore deepsea. And the reasons why much of the rainforest is still undiscovered is because it is a large, dense area of land that only in the past few years people actually taken enough interest in to actually try and discover it all.
Let's look at this logically,
Who would build a base on the moon, why would that group build it and when would they build it?
QUOTE(McKenna @ Dec 22 2006, 02:01 AM) [snapback]1470834[/snapback]
The story isn't quiet over yet. How do you know that there isn't any alien bases on the moon. Do you have proof to back up your claims. Instead of just saying oh there's no alien bases on the moon end of story. You can't just say that and expect people to believe you. You must have proof to back up what you say. In order for it to be proven true or not. And another question, did NASA ever go to the darkside of the moon and explored that area. Because if they didn't. Then there's no telling what could be on the darkside of the moon. Who knows there just might be alien bases on the darkside of the moon. So please don't be so ignorant. Try to keep an open mind.
Cheers,
Mac
Cheers,
Mac
We do not know that there are no alien bases on the far side of the Moon (note...it's not dark. It has as much daylight as the near side). We also do not know that there are none of the near side. Fair enough?
That being said, it should be pointed out that we have indeed mapped the far side with the same precsion and detail that we've mapped the near side. Men have orbited the far side just as much as they've orbited the near side, and many a satellite has taken very high res photos of both sides, in various forms of light.
In none of these many, many cases has anything but the Moon ever been observed. Thus, with high resolution mapping available of much of the Moon, there isn't any evidence we've seen, in visual, radio, or infrared, to indicate anything that's not natural on the surface of the Moon.
Of course, there could be a base underground someplace maybe...but still, there would have to be surface evidence of that. We've seen none.
The only logical conclusion, based on the available data, is that there's nothing up there, except the Moon. There is certainly no evidence of an alien base. Based upon what we have, we can say that there is no alien base on the Moon, as there is no evidence of such whatsoever.
Keeping an open mind is of course a good thing. But it should be noted that we have much more than an adequate standard of evidence to indicate that such a thing does not exist. Keeping reasonability in mind, it is well to remember that we do indeed have adequate proof against such an idea, and none at all to support it.
QUOTE(anonymous007 @ Dec 21 2006, 03:41 PM) [snapback]1470426[/snapback]
And also this pic with google (this is not related to the video)
I also know there is a video with very reliable people (high ranked military people, ex-nasa employees...) who claim that nasa has proof there is a base on the dark side of the moon, and they want to bring this to senate.
I also know there is a video with very reliable people (high ranked military people, ex-nasa employees...) who claim that nasa has proof there is a base on the dark side of the moon, and they want to bring this to senate.
Relook at that still - gang - seriously - Look at it carefully and tell me what is wrong with this picture?? Yes there is something wrong with it.
Other than it doesn't exist. This is a 'doctored picture' and you CAN see the problems -
Jj -
QUOTE(Nena @ Dec 21 2006, 05:20 PM) [snapback]1470505[/snapback]
This is the link. Seems like he added an incorrect parameter there...
Ok - wow - the video. Geesh - from all the pictures that we have of astronuats on the moom - FUNNY how these space suites are missing something that is so obvious that this also is just laughable.
Good grief - who ever pulled this off did NOT do their homework and slipped up big time!!
(Hint - It's so missing on the spacesuite....)
Plus the biggest opps - The smoothness of the video. Gee did they fly though this on a controlled boom?? Between walking on the moon and the moonbuggy - the picture simply would NOT of been so smooth.
Oh well - another one bites the moon dust.
Jj -
QUOTE(Jjbreen @ Dec 23 2006, 09:32 PM) [snapback]1472441[/snapback]
Ok - wow - the video. Geesh - from all the pictures that we have of astronuats on the moom - FUNNY how these space suites are missing something that is so obvious that this also is just laughable.
Good grief - who ever pulled this off did NOT do their homework and slipped up big time!!
(Hint - It's so missing on the spacesuite....)
Plus the biggest opps - The smoothness of the video. Gee did they fly though this on a controlled boom?? Between walking on the moon and the moonbuggy - the picture simply would NOT of been so smooth.
Oh well - another one bites the moon dust.
Jj -
Good grief - who ever pulled this off did NOT do their homework and slipped up big time!!
(Hint - It's so missing on the spacesuite....)
Plus the biggest opps - The smoothness of the video. Gee did they fly though this on a controlled boom?? Between walking on the moon and the moonbuggy - the picture simply would NOT of been so smooth.
Oh well - another one bites the moon dust.
Jj -
you sound like you are starting a moon hoax conspiracy lol JK
What it all boils down to is: We dont know.
Some may know, but unless we go there ourselves like those have done, we cant know. And we cant trust what those who have went there tells us either, we really can not know for sure until we go there ourselves. Or at best, send up our own personal satellites and/or rovers to map every inch of the moon completely ourselves.
Some may know, but unless we go there ourselves like those have done, we cant know. And we cant trust what those who have went there tells us either, we really can not know for sure until we go there ourselves. Or at best, send up our own personal satellites and/or rovers to map every inch of the moon completely ourselves.
QUOTE(darkbreed @ Dec 23 2006, 06:02 PM) [snapback]1472603[/snapback]
What it all boils down to is: We dont know.
Some may know, but unless we go there ourselves like those have done, we cant know. And we cant trust what those who have went there tells us either, we really can not know for sure until we go there ourselves. Or at best, send up our own personal satellites and/or rovers to map every inch of the moon completely ourselves.
Some may know, but unless we go there ourselves like those have done, we cant know. And we cant trust what those who have went there tells us either, we really can not know for sure until we go there ourselves. Or at best, send up our own personal satellites and/or rovers to map every inch of the moon completely ourselves.
Yes we do know - there are so many things about this video that prove it's a hoax. From the "fly through" of the camera throughout the whole video - sorry but there were NO anti-shock camera booms on the moon.
Second - the first thing that was so MISSING from the spacesuites ----> NASA LOGOS on the Backpack and the Shoulders of the astronaut. OOOPS!
No we know - HOAX and not a very good one at that! Though nice CGI effects - I'll say that much for it - Nice CGI.
I think i have seen this before! I read about it on a site that also had something about the earth and the moon being hollow as well!
It's amazing what people will come up with!
It's amazing what people will come up with!
QUOTE(Jjbreen @ Dec 23 2006, 04:32 PM) [snapback]1472441[/snapback]
Ok - wow - the video. Geesh - from all the pictures that we have of astronuats on the moom - FUNNY how these space suites are missing something that is so obvious that this also is just laughable.
Good grief - who ever pulled this off did NOT do their homework and slipped up big time!!
(Hint - It's so missing on the spacesuite....)
Plus the biggest opps - The smoothness of the video. Gee did they fly though this on a controlled boom?? Between walking on the moon and the moonbuggy - the picture simply would NOT of been so smooth.
Oh well - another one bites the moon dust.
Jj -
Good grief - who ever pulled this off did NOT do their homework and slipped up big time!!
(Hint - It's so missing on the spacesuite....)
Plus the biggest opps - The smoothness of the video. Gee did they fly though this on a controlled boom?? Between walking on the moon and the moonbuggy - the picture simply would NOT of been so smooth.
Oh well - another one bites the moon dust.
Jj -
You'd be absolutely correct about all that...
I really like the LM outside the door of the place. But what really insults the intellect is the fact that this obviously ancient alien "hanger" has all those casement windows along the side, looks like masonary walls(?), no roof, no floor(!)...just piles of dirt, no evidence of ever having been pressurized, no machinery, no doors attached...as if it deteriorated as ruins do on Earth...ludicrous.
Ah that spacesuit!
I could mention the lack of lunar overshoes, or lunar overgloves, the lack of a cover on the helmet, the fact that the PLSS was obviously slipping off to the side of the "astronaut" in the film...and that it was too small and not the correct proportions, the fact that it had no hoses traveling it's length, or the fact that no astronaut would bend straight legged, almost 90 degrees forward on the lunar surface with a PLSS on...
But I think you might be noticing that there was no American Flag on the rear end of the OPS...nor on the left sleeve of the suit???
Oh man...the stuff that comes up....
Have you seen this clip NASA smudged moon pictures
It shows that NASA smudged pictures they got from the moon that showed mile high structures.
I think it's more interesting.
It shows that NASA smudged pictures they got from the moon that showed mile high structures.
I think it's more interesting.
QUOTE(Dowdy @ Dec 24 2006, 06:22 PM) [snapback]1473221[/snapback]
Have you seen this clip NASA smudged moon pictures
It shows that NASA smudged pictures they got from the moon that showed mile high structures.
I think it's more interesting.
It shows that NASA smudged pictures they got from the moon that showed mile high structures.
I think it's more interesting.
That may be more interesting, but again, it is by an entity called "Area 51 Productions", which makes its credibility completely dubious, and further, it shows nothing whatsoever except rather poor pictures of lunar features with blurred areas on them. The allegation is that these are NASA photos which were deliberately smudged out in areas where there were "structures".
Of course, that's nonsense, and no one seems to realize that this is ridiculous when viewing these things.
If such photos existed, why are we seeing them? How could we be allowed to see them? Further, why would they actually exist at all? I mean, think about the silliness in all of this.
If they actually did exist, and someone happened to take them, and publish them like this, as well as do interviews about them (!?), you'd think someone would be referencing these photos as pertains to lunar features and latitudes and longitudes on the surface, but no. All we see are grainy, archaic looking lunar shots...no labeling, no nothing. You'd also wonder how such top secret pictures of evidence of ET life could be permitted to be published like this, and the people who did so, again, revealing top secret stuff, wouldn't be held to account...???
There's a reason that such things are permitted to be published. It's obvious.
This, like all the others, represents nothing but a sham.
QUOTE(Dowdy @ Dec 24 2006, 03:22 PM) [snapback]1473221[/snapback]
Have you seen this clip NASA smudged moon pictures
It shows that NASA smudged pictures they got from the moon that showed mile high structures.
I think it's more interesting.
It shows that NASA smudged pictures they got from the moon that showed mile high structures.
I think it's more interesting.
I'm sorry but this information has been so de-bunked. I am amazed that here in almost 2007 - stuff that is decades debunked is still being passed around - Oh well.... I guess some stuff on the net just don't die - they keep hoping some new sucker will come along and go, "OMG!! This has to be real...." - No it doesn't, just use a little analytical thinking, a little criticle thinking, even a tad bit of common sense.
Hey I have a cloked bridge to Hawaii I'll sell you. I'll even throw in the Rest Stops for Free.
got the link where it has been debunked?
QUOTE(Dowdy @ Dec 24 2006, 04:12 PM) [snapback]1473243[/snapback]
got the link where it has been debunked?
I can supply the links - yes:
But first lets do a little analytical thinking, critical thinking and reasoning -
See I am all about people learning to see, think and reason on their own - Everyone has a brain - (I hope) so I encourage people to use them.
Review this film again - and ask one simple question: What is wrong with this video??
Then start listing the flaws and stuff being passed off -
Jj -
QUOTE(Dowdy @ Dec 25 2006, 12:22 AM) [snapback]1473221[/snapback]
Have you seen this clip NASA smudged moon pictures
It shows that NASA smudged pictures they got from the moon that showed mile high structures.
It shows that NASA smudged pictures they got from the moon that showed mile high structures.
WOW! That was just too stupid.
QUOTE(MID @ Dec 24 2006, 11:52 PM) [snapback]1473235[/snapback]
If they actually did exist, and someone happened to take them, and publish them like this, as well as do interviews about them (!?), you'd think someone would be referencing these photos as pertains to lunar features and latitudes and longitudes on the surface, but no. All we see are grainy, archaic looking lunar shots...no labeling, no nothing.
Oh, I know! I know the answer to this one... Because if one could reference to lunar features and the latitudes and longitudes one could then go to other sources of photos, or even grab a 'scope and go look for oneself. I doubt "Area 51 Productions" wants people to do this.
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You'd also wonder how such top secret pictures of evidence of ET life could bepermitted to be published like this, and the people who did so, again, revealing top secret stuff, wouldn't be held to account...???
Surely, NASA/CIA/NSA/FBI etc. would have sent their "men in black" to stop this sort of thing? Right?
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That may be more interesting, but again, it is by an entity called "Area 51 Productions", which makes its credibility completely dubious, and further, it shows nothing whatsoever except rather poor pictures of lunar features with blurred areas on them. The allegation is that these are NASA photos which were deliberately smudged out in areas where there were "structures".
Of course, that's nonsense, and no one seems to realize that this is ridiculous when viewing these things.
If such photos existed, why are we seeing them? How could we be allowed to see them? Further, why would they actually exist at all? I mean, think about the silliness in all of this.
If they actually did exist, and someone happened to take them, and publish them like this, as well as do interviews about them (!?), you'd think someone would be referencing these photos as pertains to lunar features and latitudes and longitudes on the surface, but no. All we see are grainy, archaic looking lunar shots...no labeling, no nothing. You'd also wonder how such top secret pictures of evidence of ET life could be permitted to be published like this, and the people who did so, again, revealing top secret stuff, wouldn't be held to account...???
There's a reason that such things are permitted to be published. It's obvious.
This, like all the others, represents nothing but a sham.
This is very interesting, and there have been many witnesess to such claims. esp from inside the government.Of course, that's nonsense, and no one seems to realize that this is ridiculous when viewing these things.
If such photos existed, why are we seeing them? How could we be allowed to see them? Further, why would they actually exist at all? I mean, think about the silliness in all of this.
If they actually did exist, and someone happened to take them, and publish them like this, as well as do interviews about them (!?), you'd think someone would be referencing these photos as pertains to lunar features and latitudes and longitudes on the surface, but no. All we see are grainy, archaic looking lunar shots...no labeling, no nothing. You'd also wonder how such top secret pictures of evidence of ET life could be permitted to be published like this, and the people who did so, again, revealing top secret stuff, wouldn't be held to account...???
There's a reason that such things are permitted to be published. It's obvious.
This, like all the others, represents nothing but a sham.
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I'm sorry but this information has been so de-bunked. I am amazed that here in almost 2007 - stuff that is decades debunked is still being passed around - Oh well.... I guess some stuff on the net just don't die - they keep hoping some new sucker will come along and go, "OMG!! This has to be real...." - No it doesn't, just use a little analytical thinking, a little criticle thinking, even a tad bit of common sense.
Hey I have a cloked bridge to Hawaii I'll sell you. I'll even throw in the Rest Stops for Free.
Hey I have a cloked bridge to Hawaii I'll sell you. I'll even throw in the Rest Stops for Free.
Yes it has been de-bunked, by de-bunkers of course.
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I can supply the links - yes:
But first lets do a little analytical thinking, critical thinking and reasoning -
See I am all about people learning to see, think and reason on their own - Everyone has a brain - (I hope) so I encourage people to use them.
Review this film again - and ask one simple question: What is wrong with this video??
Then start listing the flaws and stuff being passed off -
No, please tell me. I have a brain too, and i have heard some credible witneses come forward and say there is a base on the moon. Im sure they have brains too.But first lets do a little analytical thinking, critical thinking and reasoning -
See I am all about people learning to see, think and reason on their own - Everyone has a brain - (I hope) so I encourage people to use them.
Review this film again - and ask one simple question: What is wrong with this video??
Then start listing the flaws and stuff being passed off -
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WOW! That was just too stupid.
why is it stupid??
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Oh, I know! I know the answer to this one... Because if one could reference to lunar features and the latitudes and longitudes one could then go to other sources of photos, or even grab a 'scope and go look for oneself. I doubt "Area 51 Productions" wants people to do this.
You talk as if A 51 is unreliable! I find these programes very good, but only if you are will to look at them with an open mind!QUOTE
Surely, NASA/CIA/NSA/FBI etc. would have sent their "men in black" to stop this sort of thing? Right?
Please tell me what you know about men in black. You say this as if its a joke!
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thats a fake!
QUOTE(morrison1976 @ Dec 26 2006, 10:44 AM) [snapback]1474050[/snapback]
This is very interesting, and there have been many witnesess to such claims. esp from inside the government.
Please name one....and while you're at it, clearly indicate the empirical evidence they can show to illustrate that they can in some way prove what they say....
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WOW! That was just too stupid.
Blunt. To the point.
But spot on.
This video is indeed about as stupid a thing as I've seen.
I know this is a fake, however, I can't help but have a .000001% possiblity in my mind only because I don't always trust the government.
No no, the base on the Moon really exists, i have been there. I swear by the moon and the stars in the sky
And I swear like the shadow that's by your side
ignore this post
And I swear like the shadow that's by your side
ignore this post
QUOTE(Dowdy @ Dec 24 2006, 05:22 PM) [snapback]1473221[/snapback]
Have you seen this clip NASA smudged moon pictures
It shows that NASA smudged pictures they got from the moon that showed mile high structures.
I think it's more interesting.
It shows that NASA smudged pictures they got from the moon that showed mile high structures.
I think it's more interesting.
I have a really sweet telescope and can see pretty fine details on the moons surface givin the sky is clear....
I have looked at the moon lots and not once have I ever seen mile high structures or bases etc. Something as large as a mile high building imo should have been seen by not only me but others who gaze night skies from time to time. I have also been to various observatories as well and gazed at the moon in excellent detail.
I think this is more myth then fact and as mentioned the source of the clip appears to be a highly dubious source.
The main problem with these 'smudged' photos is that if these object needed to be deleted from the photo, they couldn't have done a more ham fisted effort if they had tried.
I could have done a more professional job with a pirated copy of adobe photoshop. Judging by these photos NASA doesn't even have access to photoshop.
Totally bogus.
I could have done a more professional job with a pirated copy of adobe photoshop. Judging by these photos NASA doesn't even have access to photoshop.
Totally bogus.
QUOTE(morrison1976 @ Dec 26 2006, 08:19 AM) [snapback]1474080[/snapback]
thats a fake!
Wait - Just a minute there - This is a FAKE and yet the other one's are not???? What qualifies as a "FAKE" ?????
I can come up with my own governement witnesses to state that this 'cover ups' are simply claims of attention.
Ah - but here is an interesting point that seems time and again to be ignored.
How many 'backyard astronomers' are there?? 100's of 1,000's
How many of them take pictures of the moon?? 1,000's
How many of these found NO SUCH BUILDINGS on the moon??? ALL
Do you actually think that these backyard astronomers would "hide this"??? ANSWER: NO!!
So I guess all these people scanning the moon and the night skys just happen to 'miss' all these UFO's - Aliens Moonbases and such?
QUOTE(Jjbreen @ Dec 27 2006, 10:06 PM) [snapback]1475433[/snapback]
So I guess all these people scanning the moon and the night skys just happen to 'miss' all these UFO's - Aliens Moonbases and such?
Yes, I guess this must be the case.
I've been looking at the night sky for more years than most of the posters here have been alive. Only once have I seen something *weird*, and by this I mean unidentified, not definitively an ET space ship/moonbase.
QUOTE(Lilly @ Dec 27 2006, 04:46 PM) [snapback]1475580[/snapback]
Yes, I guess this must be the case.
I've been looking at the night sky for more years than most of the posters here have been alive. Only once have I seen something *weird*, and by this I mean unidentified, not definitively an ET space ship/moonbase.
I've been looking at the night sky for more years than most of the posters here have been alive. Only once have I seen something *weird*, and by this I mean unidentified, not definitively an ET space ship/moonbase.
Me too - on all the above stated.... So I just find it funny
ALL those eyes on the night sky - and yet - I mean what are the ODDS...??
If the bases are on the dark side of the moon they obviously wouldn't be visible to astronomers. That picture is fake, but there are pictures from nasa that show some kind of structures on the moon and pictures that have parts censored with a small black square.
Edit: if you look at lower right corner of the moon base picture it has the Disney channel logo.
Edit: if you look at lower right corner of the moon base picture it has the Disney channel logo.
Actually - during 1/2 moons you CAN see the 1/2 the darkside from Earth Shine... No not as clear as the lightside - but it is visiable.
Jj -
Jj -
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