Satwinder Virdee
Dec 23 2006, 08:34 PM
heya guys. its the first time i have posted a topic and am a new member. i've been told by a gypsy women that i have abilities to see orbs (which i do) and if i decided to, i can enhance my ability by practice and see spirits. she told me this after i started to see orbs and i obviously kept this from her to see what she would say. this is just a brief introduction into what i can see and my abilities. i started to take photographs in my room and orbs started to show up when i asked them to in the photo's or they appeared when they wanted to. i will have given some attatchments below to prove this.
about 8 months ago, i woke up at 3.10am one night and saw this thing standing on my little cabinet and i was told by a gypsy that this was a 'jin' i was just so scared! i didn't sleep for the rest of the night. i started to get nightmares after this experience and now i'm very sensitive in my senses i.e. il instantly know when there is a spirit arouns because i see orbs flying around. i have had my eyes tested and they said i have nothing wrong with my eyesight (this was just re assurance). i know that there are people out there who do not believe in the kind of things i am talking about right now, but i can say now that i have done all my research, looked at all the different angles and i only came to one conclusion that spirits definitly exist.
so what do u think about what i have said? i would like to get different views on this subject, amd all are welcome. thankyou
Lady_Anvilabeel
Dec 24 2006, 12:03 AM
Ok, the gypsy woman used the word orb? What you get in pictures ie orb is not really thought to be the same as what you can see with the naked eye. I'm not meaning to be nit picky, so please don't take it this way, but 99% of photo orbs are either dust, insects or light reflection. What you see with your naked eye is correctly termed as light abnormlies, energy or spirit energy, not orbs. Orbs belong to photo/video footage only
If your seeing such energy with your naked eye then yes, it sounds like you're receptive to the spirit world.
king_ivan
Dec 25 2006, 03:05 PM
That photo orb thing is interesting.. my friend told me she had some pictures of a ghost, i thoguht she was being ridiculous and asked if i could see them.. anyway apparently these photos were taken at her firends house where a former owner had been burried in the backyard. When they were playing hide and seek one night in the house with cameras they were taking photos and stuff of eachother randomly and in some of the photos there was an odd ball of light in random spots of these photos such as next to people, in the background, down dark hallways etc as if it was hiding too playing the same game. But as Anvil mentioned it may have been reflection as i personally do get confused about whether ghosts do or do not exist, depending how i feel sometimes i might say yes due to experiences or no if im thinking scientifically possible and look for explanations and misunderstandings of situations because of panic, fear and shock. Right now i think we make our own ghosts in our mind, we are all grown up with this fear of ghosts just like vampires, monsters and other rubbish which starts off as ficitonal characters and develops into a real life situation apparently.. this makes us develop phobias throughout our life due to this fear which cannot be proved as completely fake or real. If i grew up without even hearing about a ghost, I wouldnt even think about anything being paranormal or supernatural.
Satwinder Virdee
Dec 25 2006, 04:14 PM
QUOTE(king_ivan @ Dec 25 2006, 03:05 PM) [snapback]1473503[/snapback]
That photo orb thing is interesting.. my friend told me she had some pictures of a ghost, i thoguht she was being ridiculous and asked if i could see them.. anyway apparently these photos were taken at her firends house where a former owner had been burried in the backyard. When they were playing hide and seek one night in the house with cameras they were taking photos and stuff of eachother randomly and in some of the photos there was an odd ball of light in random spots of these photos such as next to people, in the background, down dark hallways etc as if it was hiding too playing the same game. But as Anvil mentioned it may have been reflection as i personally do get confused about whether ghosts do or do not exist, depending how i feel sometimes i might say yes due to experiences or no if im thinking scientifically possible and look for explanations and misunderstandings of situations because of panic, fear and shock. Right now i think we make our own ghosts in our mind, we are all grown up with this fear of ghosts just like vampires, monsters and other rubbish which starts off as ficitonal characters and develops into a real life situation apparently.. this makes us develop phobias throughout our life due to this fear which cannot be proved as completely fake or real. If i grew up without even hearing about a ghost, I wouldnt even think about anything being paranormal or supernatural.
that is a good point as i have asked a few friends and they said the same thing. but to be honest i do not feel scared knowing that there is spirits/ghosts. i find it very comforting because i know that we won't just die and our life is over with there and then. i understand that it could of just been reflections but i do have plenty of more photo's that prove otherwise. i got some checked and my sister's fiance said that there was no reflections in the photo's i have shown. but again, i do understand everyone has their own opinion. and i know exactly what u mean about if u didn't hear about ghosts or anything and that we create our own fear by creation, but i think it's hard for me to say thats true and thats just my opinion because i see things which are always passing by. have u ever seen anything besides photo's...i.e. by eye? i think that the red blob thing that looks like it has eyes was a bit freaky because i know that that was definitly peering at 'us' (at my bday party family get together) and i know nothing was causing that reflection. and did u notice how it moved out alittle aswell from its normal position? i have another one where it looks likes its stretching across. i do look at it from the scientific view from when i take photo's aswell, so i do consider all aspects. have u ever experienced anything that has happened to u at your house besides that experience u mentioned? and did u guys use a digital camera?
virusdeath0
Dec 26 2006, 12:06 AM
I think anyone could see a ghost. Its up to our eyes. Human eyes see in Blue. and camera capture ghosts you can't see because cameras see in yellow. need proof. Take a picture with your camera of a remote control lazer. You can't see the lazer. But your eyes can.
Its no werid ability if people see ghosts. You haven't been choosen either. You just have really good eyes.
SavvyWitch
Dec 26 2006, 07:48 AM
QUOTE(virusdeath0 @ Dec 25 2006, 06:06 PM) [snapback]1473662[/snapback]
I think anyone could see a ghost. Its up to our eyes. Human eyes see in Blue. and camera capture ghosts you can't see because cameras see in yellow. need proof. Take a picture with your camera of a remote control lazer. You can't see the lazer. But your eyes can.
Its no werid ability if people see ghosts. You haven't been choosen either. You just have really good eyes.
sorry but I just want to add this from a certain song

... "red and yellow then came to be... let's me see." ( ya I know off topic... *ducks* )
Pelican_Eel
Dec 26 2006, 11:07 AM
QUOTE
I think anyone could see a ghost. Its up to our eyes. Human eyes see in Blue. and camera capture ghosts you can't see because cameras see in yellow. need proof. Take a picture with your camera of a remote control lazer. You can't see the lazer. But your eyes can.
Its no werid ability if people see ghosts. You haven't been choosen either. You just have really good eyes.
that is a really interesting point of view. never actually heard about it
Satwinder Virdee
Dec 26 2006, 01:02 PM
QUOTE(virusdeath0 @ Dec 26 2006, 12:06 AM) [snapback]1473662[/snapback]
I think anyone could see a ghost. Its up to our eyes. Human eyes see in Blue. and camera capture ghosts you can't see because cameras see in yellow. need proof. Take a picture with your camera of a remote control lazer. You can't see the lazer. But your eyes can.
Its no werid ability if people see ghosts. You haven't been choosen either. You just have really good eyes.
i totaly agree, and i didn't wana sound like the 'chosen one' LOL! everyone has the ability to see ghosts but it just depends if people open themselves up to the spiritual world. but people who don't believe in this spiritual world i will not critisize because that is their belief. alot can be debated about spirits and ghosts, but scientists will always try to prove otherwise. did anyone see that video on the main page about these two guys using a thermal radar thing and they saw the shape of a man looking at them???
Spyrotechnic
Dec 26 2006, 04:12 PM
Etymology and definitions
Genie is the usual English translation of the Arabic term jinni, but it is not an Anglicized form of the Arabic word, as is commonly thought. The English word comes from French génie, which meant a spirit of any kind, which in turn came from Latin genius, which meant a sort of tutelary or guardian spirit thought to be assigned to each person at birth (see genius). But this has nothing to do with the jinn of Islamic mythology, as this might suggest. The Latin word predates the Arabic word jinni, and the two terms have not been shown to be related. The first recorded use of the word in English was in 1655 as geny, with the Latin meaning. The French translators of the Arabian Nights later used the word génie as a translation of jinni because it was similar to the Arabic word both in sound and in meaning; this meaning was also picked up in English and has since become dominant.
Amongst archeologists dealing with ancient Middle Eastern cultures, any mythological spirit lesser than a god is often referred to as a "genie", especially when describing stone reliefs or other forms of art. This practice draws on the original meaning of the term genie for simply a spirit of any sort.
Jinn in pre-Islamic Era
For the ancient Semites, jinn were spirits of vanished ancient peoples who acted during the night and disappeared with the first light of dawn; they could make themselves invisible or change shape into animals at will; these spirits were commonly believed to be responsible for diseases and for the manias of some lunatics. Types of jinn include the ghul ("night shade", which can change shape), the sila (which cannot change shape), the afrit [ai'fɾɪt], and "marid" [mʌ'ɾɪd]. From information in The Arabian Nights, marid seem to be the strongest form of jinn, followed by afrit, and then the rest of the jinn.
Arabs believed that the jinn were spirits of fire, although sometimes they associated them with succubi (demons in the forms of beautiful women). The feminine form of jinn is "jinniyah" or "jinneyeh".
Jinn in Islam
Muslims believe that jinn are real beings. The jinn are said to be creatures with free will, made of smokeless fire by God (the literal translation being "subtle fire", i.e., a fire which does not give itself away through smoke), much in the same way humans were made of a metaphorical clay. In the Qur'an, jinn are frequently mentioned and Sura 72 of the Qur'an named Al-Jinn is entirely about them. Another Sura (Al- Naas) mentions the Jinn in the last verse. In fact, the Prophet Muhammad was said to have been sent as a prophet to both "humanity and the jinn."
The jinn have communities much like human societies: they eat, marry, die, etc. They are invisible to humans, but they can see humans. Sometimes they accidentally or deliberately come into view or into contact with humans.
Jinn are beings much like humans, possessing the ability to be good and bad. Evil or malicious jinn are called "Ifrit" usually they're malicious due to their feeling they have been usurped by humans, example "Shaitan". To protect oneself against evil jinn, Muslims say the Arabic phrase,"Bismillahi! Allahumma inna 'audhu bika minal khubthi wal khabaa'ith", or another dhikr.[1] They have the power to transform into other animals and humans, and they are known to prefer the form of a snake. It is also known that they eat bones and their animals eat droppings, that is why it is forbidden to perform Istinja (washing) with those items. Jinns also have the power to possess humans, have much greater strength than them, and live much longer lives. In fact, according to some hadith, the great-grandson of Iblis, or the Devil (who was born before mankind), converted to Islam during the time of Muhammad, so he must have been thousands of years old. According to the majority of Islamic scholars, Qur'an states that the Devil was not an angel (which is believed by Christians), but a jinn who was given the same honour and rank as angels, citing the Quranic verse "And when We said to the angels:'Prostrate yourselves unto Adam.' So they prostrated themselves except Iblis (The Devil). He was one of the jinn..." Surat Al-Kahf,[Quran 18:50]. According to Islam, angels are different physical beings,made from light and unlike the fiery nature of jinn, they are beings of goodness and cannot choose to disobey God since they do not posses the same amount of free will as humans and jinn, nor do they possess the ability to do evil. Evil Ifrit in The Book of One Thousand and One Nights are called "the seed of Iblis".
In Islam-associated mythology, the jinn were said to be controllable by magically binding them to objects, as Suleiman (Solomon) most famously did; the Spirit of the Lamp in the story of Aladdin was such a jinni, bound to an oil lamp. Ways of summoning jinn were told in The Thousand and One Nights: by writing the name of God in Hebraic characters on a knife (whether the Hebrew name for God, Yaweh, or the Arabic Allah is used is not specified), and drawing a diagram (possibly a pentagram) and strange symbols and incantations around it.
It is said that one could kill a jinn with the Inwa, a manner of throwing the stone of a fruit so hard so it could, in fact, kill something. The jinn's power of possession was also addressed in the Nights. It is said that by taking seven hairs out of the tail of a cat that was all black except for a white spot on the end of its tail, and then burning the hairs in a small closed room with the possessed, filling their nose with the scent, this would release them from the spell of the jinn inside them.
In the Qur'an, Solomon (Arabic: Suleiman) had members of his army belonging to the race of jinn. Solomon had the ability to communicate with all creatures, which allowed him to communicate with the jinn as well.
Evil beings from among the jinn are roughly equivalent to the demons of Christian lore. In mythology, jinn have the ability to possess human beings, both in the sense that they persuade humans to perform actions, and like the Christian perception of demonic possession.
king_ivan
Jan 2 2007, 04:13 PM
QUOTE(Satwinder Virdee @ Dec 26 2006, 03:14 AM) [snapback]1473525[/snapback]
that is a good point as i have asked a few friends and they said the same thing. but to be honest i do not feel scared knowing that there is spirits/ghosts. i find it very comforting because i know that we won't just die and our life is over with there and then. i understand that it could of just been reflections but i do have plenty of more photo's that prove otherwise. i got some checked and my sister's fiance said that there was no reflections in the photo's i have shown. but again, i do understand everyone has their own opinion. and i know exactly what u mean about if u didn't hear about ghosts or anything and that we create our own fear by creation, but i think it's hard for me to say thats true and thats just my opinion because i see things which are always passing by. have u ever seen anything besides photo's...i.e. by eye? i think that the red blob thing that looks like it has eyes was a bit freaky because i know that that was definitly peering at 'us' (at my bday party family get together) and i know nothing was causing that reflection. and did u notice how it moved out alittle aswell from its normal position? i have another one where it looks likes its stretching across. i do look at it from the scientific view from when i take photo's aswell, so i do consider all aspects. have u ever experienced anything that has happened to u at your house besides that experience u mentioned? and did u guys use a digital camera?
I havent had any weird experiences with cameras. Ive had many experiences with my own eyes and ears in my house such as hearing voices and whispering my name etc.. but ofcourse science has explanations for these even how real it seemed at the time, I choose to believe in science. Although there was one occasion which really cannot be explained in my old house I was looking into a mirror right infront of me and if i looked into the corner of the mirror i can see down the hall way of my house and there are bedrooms off the hallway.. anyway at my mothers doorway through the mirror i could see a black arm waving at me when i looked in the mirror but when i turned around it was gone, then i looked in the mirror and it popped out again and started waving so i quickly turned around again then looked in the mirror.. it came back turned around again it was gone and it never came back in the mirror. I was scared sh**less i was about 10 yrs old and thought it could have been one of my brohters playing a trick on me anyway i sprinted past the hallway down to the back of the house wher ei found my two brothers playing playstation and my mum was in the kitchen. That arm didnt come from anybody in my family. Since then i have been reluctant to looking at mirrors on angles. I told my mum about it and asked if there was anyone at the front of the house nobody knew what i was talking about my mum didnt want me to get scared or probably didnt believe me and just told me it was probably my guardian angel. It was none of that split second bull sightings this was several seconds in perfect daylight i could see this.
Satwinder Virdee
Jan 5 2007, 02:21 PM
QUOTE(king_ivan @ Jan 2 2007, 04:13 PM) [snapback]1482775[/snapback]
I havent had any weird experiences with cameras. Ive had many experiences with my own eyes and ears in my house such as hearing voices and whispering my name etc.. but ofcourse science has explanations for these even how real it seemed at the time, I choose to believe in science. Although there was one occasion which really cannot be explained in my old house I was looking into a mirror right infront of me and if i looked into the corner of the mirror i can see down the hall way of my house and there are bedrooms off the hallway.. anyway at my mothers doorway through the mirror i could see a black arm waving at me when i looked in the mirror but when i turned around it was gone, then i looked in the mirror and it popped out again and started waving so i quickly turned around again then looked in the mirror.. it came back turned around again it was gone and it never came back in the mirror. I was scared sh**less i was about 10 yrs old and thought it could have been one of my brohters playing a trick on me anyway i sprinted past the hallway down to the back of the house wher ei found my two brothers playing playstation and my mum was in the kitchen. That arm didnt come from anybody in my family. Since then i have been reluctant to looking at mirrors on angles. I told my mum about it and asked if there was anyone at the front of the house nobody knew what i was talking about my mum didnt want me to get scared or probably didnt believe me and just told me it was probably my guardian angel. It was none of that split second bull sightings this was several seconds in perfect daylight i could see this.
wow.thats really interesting. i've heard whispers and a loud scream before in my house, and i've seen a few shadows before. and i understand that it makes people reluctant in doing something. what are the scientific theories about whispers?? because you said that are scientific explanations for this
Mr.Dot
Jan 5 2007, 02:40 PM
QUOTE(Anvil @ Dec 24 2006, 01:03 AM) [snapback]1472539[/snapback]
99% of photo orbs are either dust, insects or light reflection.
Hm, possible not 100%? Have you ever seen this 1%?

And how do you know its a orb? When we dont know what it is?
Satwinder Virdee
Jan 5 2007, 02:44 PM
QUOTE(ImAlien @ Jan 5 2007, 02:40 PM) [snapback]1487952[/snapback]
Hm, possible not 100%? Have you ever seen this 1%?

And how do you know its a orb? When we dont know what it is?
well people who see them know what an orb is. so therefore when they are seen in the photo's some can be related to what is seen on photographs/digi cams
Mr.Dot
Jan 5 2007, 02:52 PM
QUOTE(Satwinder Virdee @ Jan 5 2007, 03:44 PM) [snapback]1487955[/snapback]
well people who see them know what an orb is. so therefore when they are seen in the photo's some can be related to what is seen on photographs/digi cams

Wow, its all makes sense now
QUOTE(king_ivan @ Jan 2 2007, 11:13 AM) [snapback]1482775[/snapback]
I havent had any weird experiences with cameras. Ive had many experiences with my own eyes and ears in my house such as hearing voices and whispering my name etc.. but ofcourse science has explanations for these even how real it seemed at the time, I choose to believe in science. Although there was one occasion which really cannot be explained in my old house I was looking into a mirror right infront of me and if i looked into the corner of the mirror i can see down the hall way of my house and there are bedrooms off the hallway.. anyway at my mothers doorway through the mirror i could see a black arm waving at me when i looked in the mirror but when i turned around it was gone, then i looked in the mirror and it popped out again and started waving so i quickly turned around again then looked in the mirror.. it came back turned around again it was gone and it never came back in the mirror. I was scared sh**less i was about 10 yrs old and thought it could have been one of my brohters playing a trick on me anyway i sprinted past the hallway down to the back of the house wher ei found my two brothers playing playstation and my mum was in the kitchen. That arm didnt come from anybody in my family. Since then i have been reluctant to looking at mirrors on angles. I told my mum about it and asked if there was anyone at the front of the house nobody knew what i was talking about my mum didnt want me to get scared or probably didnt believe me and just told me it was probably my guardian angel. It was none of that split second bull sightings this was several seconds in perfect daylight i could see this.
I would suggest you read this book called "The Holographic Universe" by Michael Talbot. It explains how mirrors act as conductors for holographs.........I'll let you decide to believe what you want about it all...Im still reading it myself and your post caught my attention.
king_ivan
Jan 7 2007, 02:14 AM
QUOTE(Satwinder Virdee @ Jan 6 2007, 01:21 AM) [snapback]1487922[/snapback]
wow.thats really interesting. i've heard whispers and a loud scream before in my house, and i've seen a few shadows before. and i understand that it makes people reluctant in doing something. what are the scientific theories about whispers?? because you said that are scientific explanations for this
To explain it simple, a visual hallucination can start off as peripheral vision, then we get paranoid and scared, and then we think we see more when we are scared and jump to the conclusion that when we get scared ghosts "play" with us more. This isnt true, it only takes imagination and paranoia and you will convince yourself youve seen something but you are creating your own ghosts in your mind. People who believe they constantly see ghosts for long periods of time, I believe is nothing but a functional deficit of the brain. These hallucinations can happen more often time to time such as falling asleep, in dim light/dark, confusion, drugs, disease or scared. i.e. schizophrenia
Now, the same concept is linked with auditory hallucinations. I guess we can call it a mistake by the brain if you understand how normal sound is perceived? basically through various vibrations through the middle ear through the inner ear and to the auditory nerve which transmits the sound message/vibrations to the brain for translation/recognition. It is possible for your brain to misinterpret sounds or make them without any external stimulus. for example.. if you have ever faintly listened to the radio or television from a distant room and could have sworn you heard your favourite song being played? when it fact it may have only been a second of beats similar to part of your song yet as the sound continues your recognising the rest of the song being played.. this is because of memory and hallucination.
Hallucinations are not only visual and auditory but can also be smelt, tasted and felt. All senses experience this so remember if you believe enough that you will see or hear something you think is 'paranormal' it is likely it may happen, not because it exist but because you make it.
edit: I hope you understand this as it can go into alot more detail. I used music as an example because it is a common misconception.
king_ivan
Jan 7 2007, 02:29 AM
QUOTE(Becca L 143 @ Jan 6 2007, 03:54 AM) [snapback]1488133[/snapback]
I would suggest you read this book called "The Holographic Universe" by Michael Talbot. It explains how mirrors act as conductors for holographs.........I'll let you decide to believe what you want about it all...Im still reading it myself and your post caught my attention.
Sorry to sound like a cheap ripoff but would you have an e-book version?

I wont have time to find it from a book store and read it all because I will be busy soon.