As most of you know,

I was visited by machines/devices not of this planet. As read in my last post. I was Visited

Many of you believe I was half asleep or sleep walking. And many of you have been of great help.

Well, I believe I was revisited again.

On Christmas Eve 2006.
I went to bed around 12am.
My brother left to go out to the store to buy me some quick little gifts from a drug store in the area.
He was gone for some time but that didn't bother me. I was so tired that I didn't care if he was gone or not. As most of you know. I have a fear of sleeping in the dark and by myself.

This Time I have felt more calm since My last visit from the camera Device.
I have tried communicating with the Aliens during some of my Yoga Meditations. Nothing was spoken back.
But it did relax me. It helped me to feel closer to the beings/devices than fear them and not understand them. It makes me feel more connected.

Fear was not in me on Christmas Eve. I was exited to wake up and eat dinner with my family members and open gifts.

Around 2am, I began dreaming that something was in my mouth. A paper/plastic like large flat object was hanging on the outside of my mouth. In my dream I was thinking of what it could be but this object felt as if it was being slide through my lips but I was rejecting it as much as possible. My eyes were closed. But I thought I was only dreaming. I felt the object slide into my mouth through my lips. My mouth was being held shut. I had to swallow. I woke up! This was REAL!! I wasn't sleeping and there was now something working its way down into my throut. I reached down into my throut with my index finger and felt the object!!!! O_O it felt like plastic. All I thought to myself was "OMG...what did I just swallow...????"
I looked around my room now focusing on what was around me. I almost forgot to think that maybe something was in my room. I was more worried about choking. I tried grabbing the object and pulling it out. I had it with my finger for a second and almost slid it out but my reflexes began to swallow again and I felt as if I was going to throw up. So I took my finger out and this time just swallowed naturally so I didn't choke. I could feel it sliding down my through. It was very rough and hard to swallow.
THIS time my mind thought of things like. "WHAT could it have been?" "Could it had been a very LARGE spider?" "But Bugs don't feel like plastic!".

I looked at the clock and it was 2am. My brother was still not home. That same silence was in my room the night I was visited twice before. I had the TV turned off this night. I wanted to get some sleep and be awake for the next day. Normally I leave it on if I am home alone. From now on, I sleep with EVERYTHING ON. not just my lamps. My computer is now left on and my TV. To stir sound and energy in the room.
I don't fear these aliens as much as I did. But I know I felt drugged again. Worse than before. I felt weak. I was so tired but wanted to know what I had swallowed. 15 minutes later my brother walked through the door. I was still very tired but he was hungry and wanted to make some soup. (my brother is a night person.) I thought some soup would be comforting and it felt nice to have him back home again.
I ate some then tried to go back to bed around 4am after watching "A Christmas Story"
I could still feel as if the object was stuck in my throut when I went back to bed. This time with TV/COMPUTER and Lights all on.

While Lying in bed. My mind thought of a million things at once. My family, My friends, My past relationships, my Job, My schooling, Everything up until now and my imagination for my future. It was weird. I went through HUGE amount of emotions. I then began to CRY! Out of no where I was crying. It HURT. I kept crying and I didn't know why. I called my girlfriend Michela. She asked me what was wrong and I couldn't explain. After an hour she calmed me down. I was still feeling VERY sad. I went to bed and awakened at 9am. Exauhsted. I made some coffee and enjoyed as much of Christmas as I could.

Okay, So thats what happened to me recently related to my experiances. If anyone has any ideas, Thoughts, Theories. Please share them. I will respect them all and take notes on what others may have to say to help with these issues. Thank you everyone!

-Ginger

I have noticed that all of your "encounters" happen when you are going to sleep at night. I believe you may have a sleeping disorder that (I don't remember the name) makes you have vivid and sometimes horrible dreams.

Just a possibility.

You were asleep and someone was trying to shove something down your throat??!! Sounds like..... nevermind, just ignore me...

Part of me really wants what your saying to be true. The other Part of me knows how real it is. And says "but I wasn't sleeping."

I hope you are right. This is why I post these things in here. To believe that Aliens could be doing these things to me seems beyond our imaginations. But to believe I was suffering from a vivid dream seems like it doesn't explain it all. I really wish I pulled out that object that was in my throut. I was awake when I was trying to get it out.

But if your not right about the vivid dream thing.
Maybe they just come to me in my sleep cause they know they can have more of an advantage to do what they want around me. Drug me. Whatever.
If these are vivid dreams and all in my head. I want them gone. Not by taking meds either. I refuse medication. Just makes a person worse in something else. But it all seems too weird. There has to be another explanation.

Thank you tho for your idea on this. There is a patern. But I want to know first if others have suffered the same thing.
-Ginger

your sick lol...

No it wasn't what your thinking. Perv lol
But yeah... just nevermind...

In most alien abduction accounts they recall having almost no memory about what happened. I heard that some abductees go to a hypnotist to recall erased memories during an abduction. I'm not sure where you could get a hold of one, but if you did you may be able to get some answers.

you may be right...

I will have to do some research in somebody I can trust to do it for me. If I do have it done. I want to tape it. I don't remember anything of being taken to any ship or even leaving my bed. If I was taken. THey worked fast and then braught me back fast. Because I was only asleep for 2 hours when it happened. hmmm... I know I couldn't wake up when It was in my mouth. I felt drugged and weak. It was flat and rectangular tho. I remember that. I could feel it. Like a small credit card but softer so It wouldn't get stuck. I remember when I was in my "dream". The only way I could fight it off was by closing my lips tight to stop the flat object from sliding down my throut. I couldn't see. But when I did awaken I found that there was still time to get it out. I haddn't fully swollowed it. So I tried. And thats when I felt it.

These hypnotists are bogus and heres why....

The questions they ask are very specific like for example they assume you were abducted by aliens... They ask things like what did the 'aliens' do etc...
Givin the human imagination and the state of consciousness the individual is in they often manifest artificial memories.



It seems to me your dreams are similar to mine in the sense of vividness you describe...

I once had a dream i was talking to someone and then a noise woke me up being tired and half awake what have you i still heard the talking after my eyes were open. I have also had dreams in which a feel something and wake up still feeling it too. I would suggest maybe getting an X-Ray to see if anything is still there just incase you did swallow something in your slepp althought I don't think you did.

Do not go hypnotherpaist -
There are so many serious flaws with it. I have a friend that works for the Police department and this is their field of specialty.

I had a friend from Jr high school - that knew my abuse situation w/my dad. He even asked his dad & mom at one point if I could move in w/them - because of what he had seen and heard first hand.

Then about 15 yrs ago - he was having some serious issues. He went under regresive hypno - and told a horific story of abuse by his dad. His wife called me to listen to the tape, since I knew him better than anyone during that time. As I listened to the tap, he discribed one abuse I went through, NOT HIM. But he internalized it so much that he made it 'his own' - but it never happened to him. It happened to me.

Now with the flood of stories and books about alien abductions and visitations - the above is just way too easy to have happen. People taking too much in trying to see if it 'fits'....

Plus as GanjaGuru stated, most now set up their questions to 'lead' the patient into stories - facts or not -

Is there any type of electronics on the market you can save and buy to monitor the area where you sleep? Even if it is a small tape recorder that can record several hours at a time. This may help answer some questions.

You should visit a hospital to get your throat checket. You shouldnt mistake something that could be a danger for your health for something a alien device did to you. I see alot of things when i wake up and are tired but i know its just my mind playing tricks.

yeah, you could be right. One thing I know is. I would probably tell one heck of a story that would almost give me a heart attack if I went under Hypnosis. With my imagination due to me being an artist. And with my strange experiances and abuse I went through. God only knows what my mind would conjur. I kinda fear that. Then IF i listened to the tape after, I would just believe it happened and fear more messed up things on this planet.

Yes there is,
One person mentioned to me in my last post about a program that I can get that can be used on my computer. I can use my webcam to detect motion. Once motion starts. The camera will begin recording. Then I can program it to stop recording after 5 or 10 minutes. I am going to see where I can get a program like this. And keep everyone informed and up to date. I am youtube too so If I catch anything. I will upload it and show you guys and then everyone can put their knowledge together and tell me thier thoughts about it. But for now. I just got to see and wait.
-Ginger

Well,
I need to go to the docters for alot of things that I havn't gotten checked in awhile. When I lost my job 8 months ago. I lost my health insuriance as well. I then got something wrong with my back and I had to go. I got a torn ligament in my shoulder. This one trip to the docters and some stupid meds for it cost me hundreds. So until I can get my health insurance back up again. I can't go just yet. Specially not over me thinking I swallowed something and not knowing what it is. The docter would just think I was crazy and send me home. Then I would waste tons of money.
I do want a scan tho.
For now...I have to wait.
-Ginger

Good post! Thanks for the information, I will highly recommend not using this form of "therapy" to anyone. That is definitely something incredible. Sorry to hear about your experiences with your dad...

Ginger: Have you not expelled this thing yet? Aren't you curious to know if your body is going to pass it through your stool? Sorry if that is too personal but really, I would be freaking out a bit if I ingested something un-natural. Especially if it was thought to be something from an ... alien.

Ginger,

Are you still in the house with the broken window? Is the broken window in your room?

Go to the local hardware store and get some fine wire mesh (like used in screen doors) and tack it over the window. This will let the light and air in but keep visitors out.

It seems these devices have some way of knowing you are asleep before visiting, so putting yourself out of their reach might frustrate them enough to desist. This is, of course, assuming you want these visitations to stop

Set up a camera at night, maybe you capture something.

LOL... yes i am freaking out.

I may seem calm on this forum. But it is bothering me otherwise I wouldn't be looking to find out if others have experianced the same thing. I trying to take down opinions and trying to understand it all before just jumping into conclusions. Before taking trips to the docter and so on. What if it is all just in my head? What if it is Aliens? What do i do? Who do I go to? Will people believe me? Or lock me up in the looney house?
These are things I think about when I talk about these subjects. So I choose to take the matter in my own hands. If there was something inserted into my mouth that night and I did swollow the object. Be sure I have tried to check my stool. Noticed nothing. But yet I don't like looking at it. I have been keeping a watchful eye on how my body has been reacting. At the moment I believe i am coming down with a bit of a cold. My family just faught off a terrible virus. I had caught it 2 days before christmas but my immune system for some strange reason. Killed it off faster than anyone who is still suffering from this stomach virus. My brother, Mother and Girlfriend all threw up and had terrible diareah. I felt a little nasua. But didn't suffer from the same things. My brother I had to take care of and my mother had to go to the hospital. So I was lucky.

I couldn't afford another Hospital bill.

But other than this strange little cold that came up now. I have noticed nothing else. My throut is bothering me but I believe it to be just natural cold symptoms.

I don't think It will get bad. Its not bothering me the same way a head cold used to bother me.

But I am worried about that object I swallowed. I need to really sit down and figure it all out. Either its phsycological, Physical, or alien related. Then again, they say people swallow spiders too while they sleep. Spiders like to crawl into your mouth at night because its warm and moist in there. If your a person who sleeps with your mouth open. A spider would gladdly enjoy crawling in. Its been proven by scientists. Kinda gross really. But what I felt, felt like no spider. So we can only just have our theories and ideas and work from that.
-Ginger

Hi my friend,

The window is finaly fixed. The guy came yesterday morning. He put a hole new glass window in. Thank goodness. I do have a massive window right next to my bed. On the other end of the window is my porch. Anyone can just walk on it at night and look into my window and see that I am sleeping. I hear noises out there alot. I have wind chimes out there too. I know a cat at night likes to come on my pourch and sit up on the chairs I have. Its cute. But I know when its him. My room is the "Living room" My brother and I share an apartment but there is only 1 room. He has the room and I have the Living room as "my room" I sleep on a footon so during the day my room looks like a living room but then at night it turns into a bed room. lol its silly but its how I have to live right now.

There is a video I made on youtube.
It shows my room more towards the end.

My Video

Ginger,

I had to visit a psychologist due to depression (some time ago). One of the questions he asked was 'Do you see things that aren't there?'

Well, I was. I was seeing shapes and shadows and soon as I tried to focus on them they disappeared. I was a bit nervous about telling the pysch this as, like you, I thought I'd be chucked in the looney bin, but he said it's quite common and relatively normal if you have psychological or emotional issues.

Now I don't say this to suggest you do have these issues, but rather to assuage you that you needn't be in fear of being told you're a bit looney by a psychologist like I was (afraid that is - not told I was a looney!) if you decide to visit one, or get counselling or something.

Whether these visitations are real or not (and I'm not disputing you that they are) it might be worth getting some counselling if you're suffering some anxiety over them. I don't know how your medical system works and whether it will be free though.

If this is only bothering you a little of course, it's not worth the visit. But do keep us updated on what happens. It's very interesting. Makes it sound like it's an experiment doesn't it. I know it's not and it may be a frightening experience for you, but I hope we can provide some good advice and a wee bit of comfort.

Leonardo,

It would be great to tell a counceller my visions and what not. I am sure he/she would say the same thing I have heard and proscribe me with something or teach me ways to calm my anxiaty or depression. I do yoga for this. It does help. I know I suffer from depression and Anxiaty at times. But I ONLY suffer from them when i am going through tough times. They don't come out of no where. A problem I do suffer from is Lonelyness and a thing called "SAD" that most people get when the climate changes. When summer is gone and winter comes. Less sun and more dark dreary clouds. It depresses me beyond anything. But I have learned ways to help that. Turn on lights, Open up the shades of your windows more. Get up earlier to enjoy more of the day and less of the night. It has helped. I noticed getting up around 5am or 6am has helped my depression with SAD.

But The advice you give is great. Every little bit helps. Thank you for telling me about your experiance. It is all very hard to cope with. But each day it gets less bothersome. I have been paying more attention to it all. Seeing everything in a different light. More open minded. It seems the more open minded I see it. The more it all seems to make sense. Random things can't just be given a name and then passed on as something that someone else thinks it may be. Scientists just don't understand everything. Even if they pretend they do or come up with a bunch of words we regular people don't understand. It may sound like it makes sense to them but to me... its still a mystery and they know too that in the back of their heads. Its a mystery too.

Every year you hear something new. DRINK WATER!!! it will help you lose weight. Scientist have proven it so to claim.
Next year. DON'T DRINK too much water!!! You can die from H20 poisoning.
Year after that. DRINK MILK IT HELPS YOU LOSE WEIGHT!!
People drink it and still don't lose weight just GAIN it.

Now its EAT WHOLE GRAINS. what next?? lol ya see what I mean. but its the same thing with dreams and visions. Scientist I believe really just can't explain it so it becomes a sympton a "name" a "word" that sounds like an alien planet. And now suddenly we are all losing our minds. And suddenly there is a pill to help it. Which never does. But causes other problems. God I could go on forever lol. But thats my view on docters, Scientists and Phycologists. They are not open minded. They follow a book. That someone else read. That someone else wrote, that someone else came up with.

-Ginger

Screen Memories - Implanted Memories - Self Induced Memories

Screen/Implanted are pretty much the same:

Back in 1996 +/- a year a friend came out the military.

After they got out - they started talking about their ET/Alien encounters since they were child of 2/3 years old. So we finally ask them, 'where did this come from...?" They didn't understand the question. They told us that we knew about this, that they had told us prior to going in the military... No they had not, this was the first we had ever heard of it!
A friend suggested that they call other members of the unit to see if similar issues were being found out by other. - YES - They found out that the military was 'experimenting' on techniques of Brain Washing. They settled out of court and now these people have to live the rest of their lives with memories that are NOT real!!

Self Induced Memories:
I told you about my friend taking on my abuse and making it his own. With the internet and so many various sundry report of this abduction and that Alien Encounter - one's mind is being flooded with stories.

On the other thread with the drawing - I did notice that one of the drawing seriously looked like a 'device' from Star Trek. The camera reminded me of another sci-fi movie as well.

Dreams, Lucid Dreams and such do not make up facts - no mater how "REAL" they may seem.

Now understand that I am not a quick debunker. I've posted on a couple of threads some of my own events where I woke up with bruises, marks, cuts and such on my body. That were NOT there when I went to bed. I do not claim I was abducted, because well I can't. I have no memory of such events happening. A couple of strange dreams - but dreams are just that they are dreams. I am being seriously challenged that abduction of some sort might be going on - or someone/thing is coming into my bedroom and doing some serious messing around!!

The point is - the mind is very capable of 'making things up' and making them seem 'real' - even when they are not.

One has to be careful about the claims they make, as there are so many possibilities that could be at play!

I have not even touched on Over the Counter Meds, one can take that can and do mess with the mind at a sleep time - even OTC Sleep aids. Then Doctor written Rx's or the use of recreational drugs and use of alcohol. Or certain foods that one can eat within two hours of bed time that can cause dreams and nightmares.

Just some 'food for thought'...

Jj -

Ginger. At first when you said this thing felt like a spider going down your throat. I thought maybe the object could have been the first device in your other visit that came back and was so curious that he wanted to not only know what you looked like on the outside. But what you look like on the inside as well. But then you mentioned what the object felt like. And so there's no way that it could have been that object coming back.

Hi McKenna,

I don't know what it was. I will probably never know. Jjbreen believes the mind is powerful enough to create things in sleep and out. If that is so. I want to use this power for good. I wish so baddly I could dream of having millions of dollars then wake up and its all there!! LOL. but saddly thats not the case. Its more stranger than that. Sometimes Scary as hell.

But thinking with an open mind. You may be right and then again wrong. The device that visited me the first time. That was at least a foot long. So it wouldn't be small enough to try and get inside my body. It could of used its legs to try and stick something in as I slept. Who knows anymore. lol All I can do is sit back and take notes. I am tired.
-Ginger

Hi Jj,

I can see what your saying. Alot of it makes sense. I did have a dream not too long ago. I dreamed that I kept finding money on the ground everywhere I went. I would pick it up and put it in my pocket. One moment in the dream, I picked up a huge AMOUNT of cash. Probably thousands. I looked around and put it in my pocket. I continued to walk down the street and noticed again. Another large amount of money. But as I held it. I began to hear noises and trucks then found myself fading from my dream onto my bed with a noisey gas truck outside my window. But my fist was still clenched as if the money was still there. Without looking I would of sworn it was in my hand. I could still feel the money in my hand!!! I thought for one second "Have I gone mad? Could it be there?" Of course when I checked I was surprised to see like magic the money was not there and my mind was creating that illusion through my sense of touch. Actually making me believe that what was in my hand was the feeling of money.

Now yes Without holding money in my hand. I know exactly how it feels. My brain has recorded that from countless times of touching money and holding it. So it seems quite normal for my brain to be able to recreate the feeling of money in my hand. When I had the dream about the cleaning product in my eye. To me it felt like when you get shampoo in your eye but a bit more intense. So again my brain knows this feeling and recreates it from the knowledge I have collected over my years in my life. So to my brains belief. If I was to get cleaning stuff in my eye, my brain would only be able to imagine a pain or burning sensation from getting shampoo in it. But that would be all.

These things happen when I am dreaming about them. I can remember the dream I was having and wake up and find myself still feeling that dream.

When I saw the objects in my room a year ago and just of recent time. I was not dreaming of those objects. I don't remember any dream with them in it. I simply just found myself waking up to them. They were there. Two strange objects at two totatly different times in my life. Dreaming... was no longer there. I was mearly awakened by natural causes. During the second vision. I was just simply awakened from my dream and thought to turn over. As I was turning over. The object was infront of my face.

When I saw the first object. I was laying on my back and thought I would just wake up to do the same. Turn over. Get more comfortable. The body turns in sleep. Some people are still sleeping when they turn. I always wake up. I wake up for a second and then find myself taking a minute or two to get back to bed. But I am not asleep. I am not dreaming about these things. They were never on my mind. The first device I had never seen in my life! And I don't watch star treck and didn't understand it as a child. I never witnessed anything that creepy looking on that show. Just guys in skin tight costumes is all I can recall of that show.

Now my imagination is Grand and who knows what I could come up with. But its all too strange. If I was ever at my most creative and most imaginative in my life. I would say when I was a child would be good words to explain. I had never seen anything like that while waking up from sleep as a child. I heard things. Maybe even frightened myself thinking of things. Fears of the dark and so on have always been within me. But I never REALLY got to see anything ABNORMAL without being asleep. I have manufested some crazy ass dreams. But you wake up knowing they were just a dream. Now at 22 and 23 I start to suddenly wake up to strange things!?

WHY? I have suffered from massive stress and Anxiety all my life. Specially as a child. I went through terrible phsycological and physical abuse. Locked in my room for days at a time. I would of thought then I would of began hallucinating or imagining things then. But not now. As an adult who understands science and knows now that the clouds are not made of cotton candy and the moon is saddly not made of cheese and when you travel to the Milky Way you will not wittness swiming in Chocolat and Vanilla Milk. LOL.

This is why I am here. To Learn more. Sometimes when Reality becomes unexplainable. You got to reach for the Unexplained.

-Ginger

Hi Ginger,



I was looking at your profile and i looked at your topics and i saw this so i read it.WOW! Thats strange. I would never of expected this to happen. If this was from the same beings as last time then im not sure what to think about them. Its pretty rare for them to use any kind of physical contact. Who knows McKennas theory may be correct. Good idea sleeping with the lights on.

I though you was looking for help about alien devices why do I care to know what a "day with ginger" is like or why would I want to watch it.. when you catch an "alien" being or "device" on cam.. then you can post that. This is not holding my interest and I think it's starting to vere off. If I had something go down my throat and NOT know WHAT it was... I sure would be going to the ER and DEMANDING x-rays the whole nine yards to find out what it was, possibly even having my stomach sucked out to find out what it was, what if I had been sleep walking and ate some kind of lead weight, or anything else harmful to my body. Just because you can't afford a medical bill doesn't give an excuse to not be checked out immediately when you think you're health is in jeopardy. Come on, I'm not buyin this thread. Other people come here with legit reasons and questions looking for answers... all I see is someone looking for attention.

Hi,
This is all your opinion. And thats fine. But that video was not to show a day with me. I was explaining how my room is set up. Its more to show those who were interested in that only. Not towards anything else. Please don't turn this into something its not. I don't need any attention. Thats not what I am here for. If I wanted that, I would just stay on youtube. I am not interested in how many people see me on here. I am interested in opinions and same situations and experiances. This isn't something I like to talk about. My own family thinks its crazyness. Christ, I think its crazyness. This is why I am here. To talk to people who are or may be suffering from the same thing. I am here to find out more than what just meets the eye. I don't know what your getting so worked up about. If you don't believe me then go someplace else. I am not looking for a fight. I am not looking for your negative responses. I don't or could careless about attention. This isn't something I want to let the who world know. Just people who understand issues like this.

About going to the docters. If you want to pay 3 grand for my hospital bill over something I may have just conjured myself or some stupid alien crazyness. Well go right ahead. But Like I said before. I prefer to not just jump into conclusions. Believe what you will. Its not your Belief I am after. Also you mention this thread doesn't interest you. I am not here for your bloody entertainment. So if your bored go watch some TV. As for learning about aliens and devices that may be used. That is something I am interested in learning about. If I wanted to hear someone act negative against this issue, I would just go tell the story again to my great aunts who are in their 80's. Its like trying to explain it to a brick wall. Its embarrising. And defently not something I am happy about.

So I am sorry if your not pleased with all this. But this isn't your thread. So if you have something negative to say, say it in your own thread and move on.

-Ginger

Okay, first... slow down. I didn't get worked up I stated as you said my opinion. Trust me I'm not trying to get worked up over this to get banned. The video did start out saying " A day with Ginger" Did it not ?? This is what generated my statement. I don't plan on turning this into something it's not; and, I'm not here to start a "fight" just posting my opinion on the video. BTW, if you havn't noticed this is a public forum but I guess that doesn't matter I hope you find people to help you out, and that you can talk to.


I think that speaks for itself. But yes.. if I was worried about my personal health and well being I sure would be 3k more into debt with my local ER room. Have you checked any other threads while you have been here ?? Try this one Click here for the thread.. Highlighted Area#2 I don't bloody appreciate your reaction within this reply towards MY (as YOU stated) PERSONAL OPINION so if you don't want negativity from me.. Refrain. Because I never "Bloody" got negative with you, while posting my opinion, and I still hold true to my stance on MY opinion 8 minutes on a youtube movie that's clearly edited in the begining stating " A day with ginger" isn't going to change my opinion.


I take it negativity by your standard is not believing you ?? and thinking that an 8 minute youtube video that was a waste of time when you could have edited for the "main" purpose it was supposed to stand for ??

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way to get your post count up.

The fact is, for any "conventional" investigation by authorities, physical and background evidence would need to be gathered; evidence about your room, your house, your family, weather and other conditions during these events.

What happened to the screen on your window. Next comes the psychological evaluation asking about current or previous issues or episodes or histories of mental illness or instability, either in yourself or your family, any recent traumatic events. What about alcohol or drug abuse, you or any of your family? Were you on any drugs, or drunk, or on any sort of medication? Have you had any sort of psych screening or evalution previous, or since - are you on medicaton? Do you NEED to be?

And what about religion or philosophy of life? Are you a member of a church? A cult? A pagan? What about the rest of your family? What is your family history where religion is concerned?

These are not "out there" questions or things to be considered an attack or insult - these are very real and very important, vital, questions, which would HAVE to be answered, fully, in complete honesty, for a successful followup to your claims.

Look,
Indeed this is a public forum. But if my story bothers you so much. Why do you keep coming back? Why not just click "the back button" and go look at something that interests you more? If I see a thread I am not interested in. I just don't bother replying or don't even bother to write back in it.

This is common sense. And it seems to me you have a strong "opinion" of my story but then again you say it "DOESN'T interest you anymore" So why care about what you say to me or what I say to you? It just doesn't make sense. I don't mind replying to you to explain my view on this. I just see you reacting to this very strongly. So somewhere down the line. You are condradicting yourself.

As for the video. I didn't feel like editing it all over again. I made that video I think a month or 2 ago. I told you where the room part begins and thats at the end. You were not FORCED to watch it.
The title of video is misleading thats only because that video was not made to show my room to people here in this forum. It was for my youtube fans and friends or anyone else who is interested in crafting wood and art.

But I had figured to save time from the editing and reuploading of the video. How hard is it to just click your mouse towards the end of the video?

You did pass on negative responses tho. It was not that you believed me or not. But you were suspecting me of wanting attention and other means. So therefore to me thats against what I am here for. It bothers me to imagine people want attention from telling a story that sounds crazy even to my own family. But its far from what I want when it comes to attention or being noticed. If anything. I don't want others to really know. Those who watch my videos on youtube and myspace don't need to know. They wouldn't know how to understand all this. I have alot of little kids who watch my videos. So it would just make me look crazy trying to explain something like the experiances I been going through to 12 year olds who look up to me for my Art, Costumes and other means.

So I am sorry if there was a problem in understand my point of view. These things can be mistaken. I would actually prefer a real life get together about all this. I hate trying to explain it all in words on a screen. Sometimes a nice cup of coffee or tea and a good debate or discussion in real life is alot more fun. But in this case. I don't know of anyone who would understand here in my area.
-Ginger

To Answere most of your questions.

The window has been fixed thank goodness
I have no mental illness or instability problems.
I do not do drugs and havn't
I hate drugs actually
I do not drink often. Its very rare and when I do its a glass of wine, bailey's Irish cream or a good Magners
When I was younger my mother and father were alchoholics. So I LEARNED from their mistakes.
I do not NEED medication. I do suffer from a bit of depression but that happens when my life gets quite depressing. SO its natural for the body to feel sad. When things around them are nto going good. You can't feel good and happy all the time otherwise we would just take it for grantid and never appriciate true happyness when we have it.

I grew up in a Italian Catholic family. Went to a Catholic school until I reached 5th grade.
I still believe in Jesus and God. But i don't obsess over it. I believe in many religions that may almost resemble the God or Jesus. I have an open mind and feel that somehow they are all connected.
To Hell with creepy cults and Satan.

But I understand your studies of this research. I look at it all myself. I observe life around me and my life. I take notice of the things that are bad and good. I like to lean more towards the good and avoid taking risks if they seem threatening. My room is large and I have a large window (three section window) right next to my bed. I sleep with my windows locked at night and the lights on.

So Now if I witness or see something. Its clear as day.

-Ginger

I'm going to keep this simple.

1. Aliens do interest me or aparently I wouldn't have checked your two threads. 2. The youtube movie completely lost my interest.

Yes, I do have a strong opinion because I'm a very opinionated person. You're story is brilliantly wrote BTW.

Indeed, and this is why I didn't watch a full 8 minutes of your life, or waste the time to download it completely (seeing how some of us are poor and still have dial-up. )

How hard is it to edit a video off youtube ? (some of us arn't youtube fans.) You certainly have enough time to type out long dramatic posts in a forum.



I posted my opinion, You took it negatively. There are people who do such things for attention. I believe in your first thread you began, someone did mention setting up a video camera in your room to catch something if you suspected such things. Shame.. you were visited again and unprepared. By the way did you check out that link I posted ???



Ditto. Execpt... I'm sorry if there was a problem in understanding my point of view. This should be putting an end to it. I'm not drug into a flame war because you aparently can't handle the fact of not being believed by any means at all, and you feel the need to undeniably defend yourself.. with this matter. I can understand being touchy, and I can completely understand being defensive to an extend. But in MY view you are taking it too far to make your case as to why I should move to another thread. On that note... I'm not going to get banned for your reactions. But I'll also not tolerate being downed for my opinion as well, and if need be I will explain it. Because.. I do have an explination. Thank you.

keep strength sister
much love
♥ spirits everlasting ♥

I don't see how you can get banned by posting your opinions.
Why are you so worried about it?
You are I believe turning everything around. I was never the one to get into conflict about this. I was just sticking up for myself and explaining myself more clearly.
Like I said, I don't care if you believe me or not. Thats not why I am here.
I believe people make up stories. But I have better things to do no offense. I DO have a life.
I have trouble sleeping at night which here its 4:48am. I been up mostly since 2am.
I don't mind responding to you or anyone else. Its the reason why I made this post. To get feedback and then to give feed BACK. To get information. Learn more. Understand more. BUT most of all.
I want to know if ANYONE has ever witnessed the same thing I have. I am going to stick around until then. I NEED to know. If there is someone. I want to speak to that person. Ask them questions. It actaully kinda sucks having no one who has seen anything like this in full detail. This is not fun for me. I am TIRED... I am scared at times. I don't have MONEY either. So Unlike most people. I am struggling living in my own apartment and dealing with rent and bills like everyone else. I been unemployed for 8 months but just recently got accepted to work for a Game Company.
So I am thrilled about that! Now that is my dream coming true. Thats what I am leaning towards. Not this stupid alien crap. I wish I could just forget it all. I wish I didn't have to spend most of my time trying to figure it out. I am interested in learning about it not for fun. But for scientific / physcological reasons.
Saddly tho now. I came down with the soar throut this morning. If anything. I may end up having to go to the docters. I don't want to explain to him my experiance. ITS embarrising. It sounds crazy. But then I am thinking. What if it is serious like you mentioned. argg...

Oh well, I don't think all of this is alien related. I can't explain it. I thought somoene else could. So if no one else could. Then its hopeless for me to be here. If I were to capture this stuff on video. Would it even be safe to show? Do you think that I would be put on TV and asked millions of questions. Have my house stalked and then be called a liar?? OF COURSE! I kinda fear that too. I wouldn't want it to become anything like that. It would be great to show you guys something like that. But its not about believing or not believing. I am just looking for answeres. I don't want any fame or fortune and no offense but you can't get much fame and fortune or even attention in a forum.

I would of made some fake ass video on youtube by now if all i wanted was attention. Not write down my experiance and then share it with all of you.

-Ginger

Ginger,

We tend to dream more when we sleep lightly. Often our dreams are composed of things we are currently thinking about. I think yours was a dream thought only.

I've dreamt many things that seem real. I have a whole separate existance in my dreams; places i've been to, things I've done, things I do repeatedly. Such as being able to fly.

Once and only once I felt an evil presence trying to smother me, it felt really real and I woke up and sat up in a panic. I don't ascribe this to abductions or spirits.

My suggestion is to sleep more soundly. Just before you fall asleep think of something you want to dream about and it will probably occur.

To get best sleep:

Simplify your sleep environment.
No lights or sound.
Lie with head to North.
Ground your bed with a wire to a ground.
Fresh air.
Get up when you wake up.


Pleasant Dreams,
Alien Tech

You know, I seem to remember a big spiky ship covered in cobwebs on Christmas Day....

No, wait, that was the Doctor Who Christmas special.

Ok I am not normally one to get angry at people but you really need to lay off.WHAT THE HECK DO YOU MEAN YOUR NOT GETTING WORKED UP!If you are not interested in Gingers experiences then leave and dont come back. I personally think Gingers threads are very fascinating . Also what do you mean you donte appreciate her reaction. If somebodys first post on your thread was as if they were infuriated over you having an experience that you know was real how would you react. Come on dude put yourself in Gingers shoes. And what do you have against youtube I mean its not like youtube is going to send you a virus that will destroy your computer. Also you say you would gladly go 3grand in to debt to find out if something was implanted in you. Just think if it turns out nothing was their. How would you feel if you went into debt getting an x-ray of something that might be invisible to that stuff or might not be their at all! What do you mean being put down for your opinion thats the exact same thing you did to her.


sry everybody for getting so frustrated over this but I HATE it when people just type before they think and not put themselves in that persons shoes.

Ginger ,

After doing some "research" on the net I formed my opinion...First , I want to tell you "spiders climbing into mouths while sleeping" is bogus ,and a urban legend.Actually anything going into our mouths while sleeping.Our bodies natural reaction would be to gag , spit it out ,move it away from mouth with hand.This is science fact , I did not bother putting links to this , I consider it commen sence.After looking at some sites ,and than your sites , including myspace , I realise now the nature of these threads.Those swords or whatever they are you make?...They are diferent looking , very original.And VERY VERY VERY much the same style art work as your first picture you made of your " visitor"....You either "enjoy" telling stories and getting responses , or you are definitley dreaming this stuff up ( I lean towards my first opinion ).Your "visions" are too much like your "swords" and lifestyle.You are into goblins , fantasy ,etc...( not that anything wrong with that , to each is own)I tend to believe people who "dress up" , gothics , punk rockers , etc...are people looking to be looked at , and want more attention than normal.I think your posts are fitting from what I have seen.

Now you will ask me why I visit this thread if I am not interested?...I am interested in this particular subject , especially yours.Why you ask if I believe you are just getting your dose of attention?...Because it intrigues me as to why so many people read similar posts , and those posts are mainly "bashing" if you want to call it that ,but it is truly opinions.But as said , yours gets more "positive feedback" than all the others like this.I would bet strongly you have boosted your "friends" on my space from this , and I would bet even stronger you have recieved a ton of personal messages here.And I think you rather enjoy that.

Sooo ,my interest in this is rather "off subject" , I am researching why your story gathers so many "fans" while same subjects actually get true feedback...So far I have a reasonable and accurate opinion:

1. Your name : it is sexy ,and eye catching.
2. Your picture : Very Beautiful ,especially on your myspace...Some would say very "hot" ( you have a strong male audience here , they must not have read your bio on myspace ...)
3. your links..i.e..myspace , etc...

Now if you had joined with a generic name and no pic , I guarantee this thread(s) probably would not be going this long.I think peoples opinions would have been a little diferent,not "swayed" like they are..

To narrow down...I think your lifestyle , and by seeing your sites proves to me you are as I said a good "story" writer , and you are loving the feedback.Just knowing complete strangers are taking time out of their lives to give you some attention.Feels good doesnt it?....I just did it also...I will continue to follow thread , in hopes you will shed light on true meaning to all of this.Little " hints" each and every post...You mentioned you do not have time , 2 jobs , all those sights ,etc...But you sure have a lot of time to write paragraph aftr paragraph on "your life"...That time could be well spent researching your "issue" , or actually getting some sleep.

Call me harsh , or whatever , but I say what I feel , and yes , I do have a opinion on this in a OPEN public forum......

Here is your my page I looked at , and gentlemen read more on it before you go pm'ing poor Ginger for dates

http://myspace.com/gingerannelondon


P.S. http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...=84985&st=0

jerk do you kiss your mother with that mouth. Your just like all the other sceptics out their insensitive and uncaring go wreck somebody elses beliefs

I agree with savvy

"Ok I am not normally one to get angry at people "

"What do you mean being put down for your opinion "

"sry everybody for getting so frustrated over this but I HATE it when people just type before they think and not put themselves in that persons shoes."


Hey Ghostboy , Ginger is very adept to answering posts , I do not think she needs you to answer for her...Those quotes above , they are from you.I gave my opinion , and as allways will allways do so.If my opinions "hurt" your feeler in some way I do not apologise.I never said anything bad in my reply ,if you read into it wrong that is your problem.Those are ALL my opinions on this.No need to explain it to you ,this thread not about you.We all have a chance to voice our opinion , that is this is called a "public forum"...

Now please let Ginger have her topic back.

All that says is that she's WICKED COOL!!! I love nonconformists!

Oh no ,do not get me wrong.I never said anything was wrong with her at all.To each is own i say...What I was getting at is tredding water here , so I need to be carefull.I was mentioning to the guys attempting to make "good friends" with her to take a better look at her bio before they get heart broken.....

And nothing wrong with that either....( her bio )

Was just making a point , we all know about "internet" pervs looking for love in all the wrong places.

Nothing wrong with being a perv, is there? Not saying that I am. But it's never a bad idea to make new friends.

"

Some Opinion. More like accusing and ridiculing. Your opinion makes no sense. You assume I am doing one thing when I am doing another. This is not an opion just based on what I posted. This is an opion about my life. And personaly thats envading space that I never asked anyone to peek into. You don't know me. You can look at my pictures all you want. But you will never know me truely. Believe in what you will. But only a fool sees past the trueth. They blinded mostly by ignorance and jealousy.

-Ginger

haha... don't worry... I can be a perv at times too n_-
my girlfriend will call me a scoundral at times. haha... but indeed making new friends is always a plus. I have no problem with that. cheers my friend and hope you have a wonderful new years incase I don't hear from you sooner.

-Ginger

Ghostdude,

your the best lol