http://news.independent.co.uk/environment/article2099971.ece
http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news...46-eea457e8b873
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20061228/58020089.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4141348.stm

Doesnt look like anything strange is going on.

Yeah, we're pretty screwed. At the current rate of global temperature rise I fear the "tipping point", as it's called, of CO2 saturation has already been reached. These thaws and ice regressions were predicted to take place minimum 50 fifty years from now by the most alarmist of studies. Turns out it's happening even faster than that.

You RI and me in the UK will notice the worst of is as well, the gulf stream is altering because of it.

hmmm 50 years
but i thought the world was gonna end 2012

Lol, Its not the end of the world, just for a lot of species on it. 50 years is just an estimation, but it is obviouus that the changes in the world temperature are having some profound affects.

Not!

I know, huh? The drop in salinity of the north atlantic is forcing the Gulf Stream south. Here's a quote from an article about a study in the 90's when they predicted that the gulf stream would shut down by 2200 at the rates observed from 1965-1995. They have since amended it after noting the quick increase in ice melt from 2002-2005:

"If, as a result of global warming, significant parts of the massive Greenland ice-sheet were to melt or break off, and if sea-ice formation were to shrink as fast or even faster than the rapid rate witnessed over the period 2002-05 then the timetable mooted in this study would likely have to be brought forward considerably, as noted by the authors."

They don't say when but significantly sooner than 2200 is scary enough.

Here's another excerpt relating to a recently published study in Nature:

"The Atlantic Ocean overturning that maintains Europe's moderate climate has slowed by 30 per cent according to scientists from the National Oceanography Centre at the University of Southampton in research published today in Nature (Thursday, 1 December 2005).

Professor Harry Bryden, Dr Stuart Cunningham and University of Southampton research student Hannah Longworth have been researching the flow of the Atlantic Ocean across latitude 25 degrees north - comparing measurements across the Atlantic taken in 2004 with records from 1957, 1981, 1992 and 1998. Ocean flow is measured in Sverdrups, equivalent to one million tonnes of water a second. The team estimate a decrease in the overturning from 20 Sv in earlier surveys to 14 Sv in 2004."

For over forty years it had been the same then between 1998 and 2004 you have a 30% drop off? Yeah, nothings happening. All's I can say is get a warm coat, bro. At least it won't rain as much, right?

Rain is a small loss for losing all the trees isn't it.

Uh, yup:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/20...arctic-ice.html

Stick with reputable news sources and published peer-review studies.

Nope nothing to see here.

Global Warming is a myth invented by the Democrats and world leaders across the globe to extract big bucks from the Republicans oil money and destroy America.

Its 51 degrees out in January today. Sun is shining and they day is beautiful and it occurred to me that I don't really have a problem with winter going away forever. I hate the cold. But then its the dang side effects of global warming that's the problem.

What are they again?

It's sad people don't care about destroying our atmosphere for the sake of a warmer winter. Ignorance at it's finest, doesn't get any worse than that.

Well what are the side effects. Seriously. I am curious if this is just another way of our species changing the environment to suit our needs?

Survival of the fittest. Adapt or die. Seems like humans have taken over the planet.

The negative effects are the loss of the ice in polar regions causing sea level rises, this in turn cause alteration of currents. Areas like the UK will be much much colder the US mid west will start to look more akin to the Sahara. Increased desertification in Africa and Asia's tropical regions. Decrease in the available water for everyone loss of wildlife both terestial and marine, loss of planet life through both heat and cold, flooding of large areas such as the Carolinas and Florida Holland and Denmark. Then it will probably get worse.

Well, I think the scariest and pretty much most definite one is the rise in ocean levels due melting ice caps which could potentially flood thousands of coastal cities world wide. With this you also have a drop of salinity in northern oceans. In the North Atlantic this seems to be pushing the Gulf Stream further south. The Gulf Stream is what keeps Europe's weather mild for the most part. This lack of heat is potentially disastrous for Europes climate and the North Atlantic fisheries. All the permafrost melting in the Arctic is going to start release vast amounts of CO2 worsening the problem. The rise in CO2 could also drop the pH of the ocean. The Arctic ecosystem will cease to be and the consequences for worldwide ecosystems both aquatic and terrestrial will terrible. The shorlines, both fresh and salt water, are extremely important ecological niches. If the water rises too fast and the shorline shifts inland too far these fragile areas will suffer greatly. So we're talking significant loss of animal populations and possibly extinctions. The human cost could be massive, potential toppling entire economies as the their largest cities slowly get swamped or their food production becomes impossible to due climate change. Storm cycles, on the other hand, are tough to predict and not all climatologists agree on the effects it might have on extreme weather such as hurricanes.

Thanks for the information guys!

Anytime!

this ios just a natural increase in temp, the world is still coming out of the last ice age. People are pretty full of themselves to think that we can change the weather in such a short time. We may over time have an effect, but this "global warming" is just a normal trend. If we are around to see another ice age, in how ever many thousand years, when it starts cooling down, people and the media will blame america and probably stil blame bush for "global cooling"

Actually, you're quite wrong. The science is beyond doubt now (unless you're a scientist on the GOP payroll). You might forget we have ice cores that go through many ice ages and retain their CO2 signatures. Never has CO2 levels risen so quickly and the levels are demarcated at the start of the industrial revolution. It us. There's endless research now, and no climatologist seriously doubts it.

Global Warming exists you moron! Only rednecks think it doesn't exist!

Well said

This is getting a bit frightening... When I was small, we used to have proper winters. Hell, sometimes there was so much snow in the city center that it caused traffic difficulties! There hasn't been a white Christmas for at least five years now and this year, we only had something snowish for two days then it melted away and it was only present in the outskirts of the city. Also, its now +4C, but we had around +10 yesterday instead of the normal -5 -- 0 C. We also had a severe drought in the autumn (not that I miss cold rain...). I want my Eastern European weather back with proper seasons!

Whoa, brother, be calm. No need for name calling.

At least I posted the words instead of only the links.

Look up: Global warming is a hoax!


Sigh.......

I live in the Ohio (A State in the United States) and it hasn't snowed here in 2 YEARS, WTF!

Yeah I'm in Germany at the moment pretty much dead centre of the country and today 10°c with rain. Not right for a mountain region.

So far this winter in Rhode Island we've had about 2 days where it was in the 30s during the day and no snow all season. It's been in the fifties for the last week and the forties at night. This is New England! That's simply not right. When I was a kid we'd be ice fishing right now.

Yeah I have a good amount of friends in New England and in previous years they have told me of barely being able to leave the house in winter.

yeah im also in ohio in cincinnati actually... and i remember being a kid it seemed like it snowed every winter but it only snowed ONE time so far and was only an inch or two... i seriously think something bad is going to happen but who knows...

i heard from someone that it isnt global warming its just the sun is going through one of the hottest solar cycles it has had in a couple hundred years and that it should be over within the next 11 years, dont nkow if its true, just what i heard

We've only been emitting fumes for I don't know I'm going to say about 150 years.

All the volcanic eruptions spewed more C02 into the atmosphere than any of what we did.

Am I saying that Global Warming is fake? No, I'm just saying that what we do is barely effecting it. I think the Earth naturally goes through these cycles.

As I get older....all I can grunt is .....wh....bun...ch......of ....cr.....p....


No offense.

Actually the world has not had that level of volcanic activity since the end of the permian period. You are also missing other points, the removal of carbon sinks being the main. Highly decreased CO2 uptake as well as the output increasing massively as well as other greenhouse gases as well as record temperature increases in record time. Yes the earth goes through natural cycles, we should technically be getting colder now.

Actually there's more CO2 in the atmosphere right now than in the last 650,000 years:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file.../w135801S21.DTL

CO2 in the atmosphere has increased 34% since the start of the industrial revolution. Prior to that it was constant for thousands of years. Methane too has vastly increased. Once vast carbon sinks, the Arctic being a vast one, disappear this will increase faster. In fact the melting of the arctic permafrost potentially will release unheard of amounts of methane and CO2 into the atmosphere exacerbating the problem.

http://www.weather.com/multimedia/videopla...ab=3&nav=84


Hmm cherry blossoms in january? Earliest recorded previous bloom march 15 , 1990.

Nope still nothing to see here.

Lol, yeah were making it up because we don't like bush we admit it.

Ignore all the evidence.

i'm all for global warming anyways. even if it isn't caused by us.

Bet you won't say that when your house is underwater.

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...showtopic=85692

here is a pic of the earth at night just to give you an idea of the influence of humanity on this planet...





all those lights you see are citys and towns. all of witch are pumping out co2 24 hours a day 7 days a week all year long for the past 30 years!



i to remember a time not that long ago when we use to have white christmases and the snow would stay all year long. we would go sledding and ice fishing and have snow ball fights and build snow forts and snow men. we even used to have a snow sculpting contest at one of the parks in my town and then we would all get in the car and drive through the park and look at all the cool snow sculptures. now its january 2007. i look out my door and what do i see? its wet its muddy and there isn't a spec of snow anywhere. we have had one good snow fall all year and it only lasted about two weeks before it all melted. with no spring run off and the drought we had in 2005 the river where i fish at got so low that i could walk out to the islands and the water would only reach to my ankles. its bean almost two years since then and the river still hasn't recovered. we humans are about to pay a very heavy price for are greed....

The other day it was 70 degress Fahrenheit....in January.....in Connecticut.....in New England........in winter.....

Forecast for next sunday the 14th of january here in virginia is a balmy 74F.

In other news from a few months ago.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn1015...nyear-high.html

Thats when the ocean levels were 80 feet higher then they are today.

Nope nothing strange going on here.

Whether or not global warming is occuring, the world is definitely heating up. And that means that we're in trouble. The Permo-Triassic extinction, which wiped out 96% of all life on Earth at the time, is believed to have been caused by a global rise in temperature. There was a fairly large-scale extinction at the end of the Eocene as well, also brought on by climate change.

Tell me about it! Scary prospect... I DON'T WANNA LIVE IN A SIBERIAN CLIMATE




Well many bird and insect species that live in temperate regions, and require seasonal weather changes will suffer, and most likely go extinct, for a start. Silent Spring indeed.

I know. Did you see Swiss Alps today - 16°c

global climate shift/change has been happening for millions of years its natural and has to happen its part of the earths bio-sphere shift...its just we are interfering with our pollutants and co2 emission output...its a shame but we haven't made or suppressed of a free energy program on the world scale level,we will just have to do our best and not interfere as we will ultimatly pay the price its a shame that governments such as yours and ours are not pushing for a red alert...it is important and priority to look after mother earth as our children will suffer...

this has got to be my biggest fear in all this. it even scares me more then the prospect of the human race going extinct. and to think were not even feeling the full effects of global warming....

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...showtopic=67244 this is a thread i started a while back on the effects of global dimming and how this factor made many scientists underestimate the effects of global warming. to think that even now global warming is happening faster then even the most alarmist of predictions. i shudder to think what would happen if global dimming was no longer a factor....

Going back to an arguement earlier in the thread on this being the Earth's natural cycle, and the good point of ice cores by Capeo -

Said simply - Yes there are cycles, and yes this is demonstrated in ice cores, but what is concerning is the prospect of no ice at the poles which would be the first time since dates proven in cores.

So of course there is no such thing as Global Warming, but the sky is really falling, chicken little.