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Nineteen
1: Where did god come from.

2:If there is an after life (post life), what is the before life (pre life) like?
Қain
The after life is the pre-life.
Nineteen
elaborate sir.
Cadetak
QUOTE(Nineteen @ Dec 29 2006, 10:36 PM) [snapback]1478460[/snapback]
elaborate sir.


He could mean reincarnation or that before you are born your in heaven...or before we are born we are nothing.
JMPD1
QUOTE(Nineteen @ Dec 29 2006, 10:19 PM) [snapback]1478420[/snapback]
1: Where did god come from.

2:If there is an after life (post life), what is the before life (pre life) like?



1. From the mind of men, trying to understand the world around them.

2. the 'afterlife' and the 'prelife' are the same: It is where the soul resides between physical lives.
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truth's last stand
QUOTE(Nineteen @ Dec 29 2006, 09:19 PM) [snapback]1478420[/snapback]
1: Where did god come from.

2:If there is an after life (post life), what is the before life (pre life) like?


1. Provided God exists, no "creation" would be necesary. If not, from primitive humans looking to deify things such as the sun.

2. I don't believe in a "pre-life," although if there were one, I suppose it would be the same as the "after," as someone else pointed out.
rixtar
QUOTE(Nineteen @ Dec 30 2006, 02:19 PM) [snapback]1478420[/snapback]
1: Where did god come from.

One of the oldest philosophical questions is "why is there something rather than nothing"? If you can answer that, then you'll know where God comes from. blink.gif
Leonardo
QUOTE(rixtar @ Dec 30 2006, 05:41 AM) [snapback]1478664[/snapback]
One of the oldest philosophical questions is "why is there something rather than nothing"? If you can answer that, then you'll know where God comes from. blink.gif


In the minds of Mankind 'nothing' cannot exist. Everything has a cause and, when the cause is unknown, that's when the dreams of god appear.

So with the after/pre life. We fear nothing (as in the nonexistence of anything) so we have to create something to calm that fear.

Mind you I actually believe in an 'afterlife' but I'm rational enough to know this could be just my fear of nonexistence asserting itself.
Omnaka
QUOTE(Nineteen @ Dec 30 2006, 03:19 AM) [snapback]1478420[/snapback]
1: Where did god come from.

2:If there is an after life (post life), what is the before life (pre life) like?



God , Heavenly Father and mother Came from Their Father and Mother, You can call them granpa and grama, and they came from their Parents, all the way to infinity, thyis is the meaning behind eternal spirit , it goes the other direction also.

Love Omnaka
SoulSlayer
QUOTE(Nineteen @ Dec 29 2006, 07:19 PM) [snapback]1478420[/snapback]
1: Where did god come from.

2:If there is an after life (post life), what is the before life (pre life) like?

1. He always was

2. I don't know, I think we'll remember that in the after life....life is like taking a trip away from the other realm to this realm..

QUOTE(Nineteen @ Dec 29 2006, 07:19 PM) [snapback]1478420[/snapback]
1: Where did god come from.

2:If there is an after life (post life), what is the before life (pre life) like?

1. He always was

2. I don't know, I think we'll remember that in the after life....life is like taking a trip away from the other realm to this realm..
GoddessWhispers
1: Where did god come from. Primitive imagination, that witnessed the wonders of all around it especially relative to it's own beingness. (i.e. birth from a woman, sustaining the new life from her body, death (that sudden immobility of someone and which they couldn't understand)), their own reflections in ponds, etc... which made them cognizant in their own way, they were different than all else around them, thus they presumed they were unique. In the ancient times, the witness to child birth and sustaining the baby from one's own self, caused the ancients to revere woman form, (or/goddess). Because the male role wasn't actually recognized until as late as 1843. (And the book: "A Mind of It's Own ~ A cultural history of the Penis" By: David A. Friedman)
God continues to exist today because believers give it life because they can not accept they are human and yet no more special than anything else that exists. God is in the mind. Nature , power, is what people are really envisioning when they "think" on god.






2:If there is an after life (post life), what is the before life (pre life) like?
I believe we return to the energy that we were in the beginning. Becoming one with the chaos and living eternally in any , many, other forms. (Thinking Physics here, energy can not be destroyed just reformed)
truethat
God is a side effect of consciousness. Consciousness is a side effect of evolution. Evolution is a side effect of code. Code is the result of time.
Chauncy
1: Where did god come from?

In the beginning Man created God; and in the image of Man created he him.

2:If there is an after life (post life), what is the before life (pre life) like?

I believe the ideal way to live is as if there is no afterlife. That is to say that every moment here and now counts towards your final state of being the second before you die. That split second before you die could be filled with regret and saddness or it can be reflected upon with great pride and dignity. For maybe the afterlife is how the brethren you leave behind remember the way in which you led your life. The memories that others maintain of your existence should be thought of with circumspection in every action of everyday.
Caana
QUOTE(Nineteen @ Dec 30 2006, 03:19 AM) [snapback]1478420[/snapback]
1: Where did god come from.

2:If there is an after life (post life), what is the before life (pre life) like?


The sick imaginations of those who like control. And a metaphoric reason for all they do, to placate themselves.{not guilty, the so called truth}

Either you were just made, or you already "lived" several dozen, or thousands of other lives already. Or you are a program drone that die's when it die's. Or you are outside it all, and are being forced to participate, with no memory of it being against your will. Whatever your particular situation, were all screwed anyway.
Caana
QUOTE(truethat @ Dec 30 2006, 04:56 PM) [snapback]1479147[/snapback]
God is a side effect of consciousness. Consciousness is a side effect of evolution. Evolution is a side effect of code. Code is the result of time.


And what is the result of time? Imagination?, whether in poor taste like this current "reality", or the many other one's.
There is no time or motion within the mind. And your mind can be made to imagine many things from outside itself.
I give you time.
exeller
WOW ALOT of athiests here huh?

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1: Where did god come from.


I'll ask him when I die.
Caana
I am a free human, and resent religious virus infected terminalogy words they have made up, to degrade anyone else but themselves. Anyway, i know the truth about them. The religious want respect for what they believe in, yet they themselves don't know what that means outside their limited purviews, so in the end, they will destroy everyone else. The've gained to much power and control for it to be otherwise.

There is a surprise for them, which will be activated after the've finished destroying humanity here with their beliefs. They will be destroyed by what they percieve as their faiths. The illusions of their various beliefs and the faiths from those beliefs, will manifest, and eat them in various ways. They will be utterly destroyed, and humanity will begin once again, without religion, or it's ever being allowed to develop again.

You see, the survivers will make sure of it. better yet, the survivers destroy themselve's, rather then chance letting religious virus infection and all it's horrors loose again. There is no peaceful intent with religion, their whole theme is to spread the virus, through all means.

Their current and past actions are louder then words, or proof of intent. So stop calling people silly names made up to identify what the religious percieve to be their enemy's. Thank you.
Nova Scotia
Where did God Come from ? well thats a question I , even me can't answer . Scripture Don't tell us .

Christ created the heavens and the earth If Heavens means Universe What kind of A being can create a Universe ? Some on here make fun because they judge their opinions of God . And none of us are thinking Big enough when we Judge God . Make a Universe ?? And we make fun of him ?

All i know is the creator is our Older Brother , And he had a Father that commanded what to do and say .

So the creator is not even the Big Guy ... But whats a Man if we can become the Creators brothers and Sisters ? Just what is Man? The first stage of God reproduceing after his own Kind ? A being that can create a universe is our brother ? Every body judgeing God is thinking too small .

No wonder Paul said he reconed the sufferings of this world was not worthy to be compared . Christ also created the Spirit world inclueding Satan .

Where he came from i think thats a big question that no man can answer now . Maybe paul Could of told us (he didn't)as he was taught by the Glorified Christ 3.5 years in the deserts of arabia . But the rest of Us really are not told .


As far as former lifes . Only one man ever had a former life . Christ the Man before he was a man lived with the Father and was a spirit being capable of creating a universe . No other man had a former life .
They may think they did As the spirit world can make them see parts of other mans lifes . But no other man had a former existance . its tricks from the spirit world to help keep the world decieved.

Life after death? only one is partaking in it now Christ .

Some will recieve it in near future (the Church )( the church that passes their judgement) (only the church is judged now) the rest get a chance about 1100 years later .
All other men Accept Christ are Dead Now , sleeping no thoughts.

Christ the creator was Dead for 3 days and 3 nights . dead no thoughts . the Holy Father resurected him . So other then the 3 days 3 nights he has always been alive . The rest of men have only lived their lives so far .
Caana
well, i did mention we are all truly pucked.
Nova Scotia
Caana are we really being honest with all this religous bashing .

You do know there has Been men on this earth that had no religion some even in high positions , there has even been countries that shed religion . But none really proved you to be right .
Alot of these religionless men actually became very cruel and killed without mercy .

Now maybe there was some that was decent too . But alot of Athiest where very cruel men .

There is also Exsamples of very decent people fearing God . Actually some God fearing men proved to be some of the worlds most decent people . I know some religous people where cruel monsters also . But blaming religion is kind of Unfair or maybe even bearing false witness .

Some of the smartest men that walked this planet Beleaved in God also .

Not every God beleaver is a idiot like you would like people to Beleave .

Too completly Reject Religion i think you have to Put your head in the sand .

Too much unexplainable things on this planet .

Maybe your just angry at a God not being there some time in your life or Something.
Caana
QUOTE(Nova Scotia @ Dec 31 2006, 02:39 PM) [snapback]1480302[/snapback]
Caana are we really being honest with all this religous bashing .

You do know there has Been men on this earth that had no religion some even in high positions , there has even been countries that shed religion . But none really proved you to be right .
Alot of these religionless men actually became very cruel and killed without mercy .

Now maybe there was some that was decent too . But alot of Athiest where very cruel men .

There is also Exsamples of very decent people fearing God . Actually some God fearing men proved to be some of the worlds most decent people . I know some religous people where cruel monsters also . But blaming religion is kind of Unfair or maybe even bearing false witness .

Some of the smartest men that walked this planet Beleaved in God also .

Not every God beleaver is a idiot like you would like people to Beleave .

Too completly Reject Religion i think you have to Put your head in the sand .

Too much unexplainable things on this planet .

Maybe your just angry at a God not being there some time in your life or Something.


I never said they were stupid, if they were, we would'nt be where we all are today. It's not bashing. Those non-religious guys of cruelty had no societal formats to go by, other then religious one's, real civilization having been destroyed by the religious thousands of years before, and their memory washed away. You can love and live by whatever perspective has been instilled with you, you can be good as well as religious, but religion does not know what freedom is, thinking only what they do is the right thing. The hairs on the knape of my neck rise whenever something is implemented supposedly for the good of all, by people who think like they do. The point is that you can love the people around you, and the next day you could be at war with them.

My head is out of the sand, and as far as unexplainable, when you force a common set of probabilitys for cause of things happening, of course you end up with unexplainable things. Angry? it's more indifference at this point, which is the purpose of them doing what they have, to get rid of the seething anger that has destroyed whole scenarioverses and their populations. As far as your god not being there, it does'nt exist to begin with.

The illusions that form your worlds societys, what i'll loosely call civilization, will destroy itself, i don't have to lift a finger to help with that, it has it's own force now. All the elements you think of as life on your world.
Nova Scotia
I will agree that alot of the time religions have been in the past what started wars .

And i Can see that religion may be part to blame why this world can not have peace now . The City of Jerusalem alone being holy to the jewish , christians and also muslims whith none wanting to give it up due to their faiths is probly enough to fire up some major wars in the future . maybe even 3d world war .

My only point is Non Religous men don't suddenly become peacefull when getting away from religion . in alot of cases they are worse .

Remember in Scripture Christ Said THINK NOT THAT I HAVE COME TO BRING PEACE . he was not a failure he just never came to bring peace Not Then . He actually fortold much more wars and Killing .

He did thogh Promise Peace in The future , in micah 4 we see it fortold that all war will stop someday . Acording to Scripture to get peace on earth the spirit world has to be locked up .
The real problem with this Earth is man does not walk this earth alone . Hes here with Many lieing evil Spirits . Almost all religion comes from these lieing evil spirits .

But iF they did not work with religion they would work with something else . They do on occasion work with Athiest also .
The problem on this earth is mostly this hidden spirit world that lies and lies and promotes hate . And yes it organises 99% of all religion .

Most men that are Aware there is a Spirit world trust the spirit world when it should not be trusted . They take it Lightly that this spirit world could be very evil liers . Only the bible Can lead us in truth of knowing good from evil .

You can prove the Bible is truth by the way most twist it . study it away from religion and you will see something very different maybe even something You Could beleave in .

If its all false , Why so much effort into twisting it and hiding it . They don't do that to other Books
Caana
QUOTE(Nova Scotia @ Jan 1 2007, 02:00 AM) [snapback]1480944[/snapback]
I will agree that alot of the time religions have been in the past what started wars .

And i Can see that religion may be part to blame why this world can not have peace now . The City of Jerusalem alone being holy to the jewish , christians and also muslims whith none wanting to give it up due to their faiths is probly enough to fire up some major wars in the future . maybe even 3d world war .

My only point is Non Religous men don't suddenly become peacefull when getting away from religion . in alot of cases they are worse .

Remember in Scripture Christ Said THINK NOT THAT I HAVE COME TO BRING PEACE . he was not a failure he just never came to bring peace Not Then . He actually fortold much more wars and Killing .

He did thogh Promise Peace in The future , in micah 4 we see it fortold that all war will stop someday . Acording to Scripture to get peace on earth the spirit world has to be locked up .
The real problem with this Earth is man does not walk this earth alone . Hes here with Many lieing evil Spirits . Almost all religion comes from these lieing evil spirits .

But iF they did not work with religion they would work with something else . They do on occasion work with Athiest also .
The problem on this earth is mostly this hidden spirit world that lies and lies and promotes hate . And yes it organises 99% of all religion .

Most men that are Aware there is a Spirit world trust the spirit world when it should not be trusted . They take it Lightly that this spirit world could be very evil liers . Only the bible Can lead us in truth of knowing good from evil .

You can prove the Bible is truth by the way most twist it . study it away from religion and you will see something very different maybe even something You Could beleave in .

If its all false , Why so much effort into twisting it and hiding it . They don't do that to other Books


Think of humans and curiousity, what would be the surest way of making people believe something? You twist and try to hide it. As i said, the mainstreamers are not stupid, they have some of the best human behaviorists around. The parasites you speak of are no different from the one's the religious call their god and it's angels, indeed, what do you think those angels are?

None of the things are human, and they are the one's who set up the good/evil system after destroying humanity here at it's hieght. And implementing humanitys worship of them. They cover all the bases. They have divided themselves to give opposing forces in a war that has no meaning, humanity just does'nt know it.

But that is just how the scenario has been set up. To escape, you must be able to see through it all.
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