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thaimad
just been reading about Nasa"s plans to return to the moon, and beyond no doupt.
And I wondered if the US Govt has all this secret UFO anti-gravity technology, that people who believe ufo's are from earth and not space. Then why don't they use it for space exploration. Is the cost of keeping it secret(should they actually have it) worth more than the billions they would save the US tax payers,
by building solid fuel rockets and space craft.

Is this technology firmly in the hands of the armed forces.? if so when are they going to start using it. If I was an american tax payer I would be kind of intereted in what my Govt is doing, which leads to the question....If there is no secret technology , then who or what is flying the friendly skies over the USA and rest of the world.

It is 2007 ....do govts really think they can keep people in the dark , we have the technology to communicate all over the planet in an instant.
they should fear the people,, not control them.

MasterPo
I've read claims that the B-2 Stealth Bomber uses anti-gravity technology, reverse-engineered from captured UFOs. Story goes that the stealth design of the B-2 makes it impossible to fly by normal aerodynamic laws. So it needs anti-gravtity tech to get it air borne.

I also saw a very powerful clip on a recent History Channel show about UFOs. According to the show, for many years NASA has used a special top secret and scrambled/secure radio channel to communicate with the space shuttle etc. for, amoung other things, discussions of UFOs seen in orbit. In this particular clip they play the audio (recorded by a ham radio operator who was monitoring the regular/open NASA channels) of a space shuttle astronaut calling NASA in the morning. In the clip you can clearly hear the astronaut say quote "What do you want us to do about the alien space craft that has been following us since yesterday?" He says "alien space craft" exactly, not UFO or object or anthing like that. And he says it with a straight sounding voice, no chuckle or wink&nod humorous sound. That's not the kind of words one chooses hap hazardly!
thaimad
So the million dollar question is.... why the constant denials and cover-ups. If half the population believe them to exist, why just just front up and say..ok yes aliens come here , we have their technology , we don't know their agenda.!

Maybe the real truth is the world Govt's are more afraid of our visiters than they are of their voters...

alien.gif for president!!
logikvipr
maybe the world's governments are more afraid of the REACTIONS of their citizens to the revelation of extraterrestrial beings visiting our planet.

EXAMPLE: Orson Wells' circa 1930 broadcast of "War of the Worlds" (the mass hysteria and riotous paranoia and chaos that ensued was only regional at that, and involved humans numbered in the MILLIONS of citizens)
Bella-Angelique
QUOTE(logikvipr @ Dec 31 2006, 04:12 AM) [snapback]1480175[/snapback]
Orson Wells' circa 1930 broadcast of "War of the Worlds"


Excellent point that is difficult to argue with since it did actually happen.
thaimad
QUOTE(Bella-Angelique @ Dec 31 2006, 05:03 PM) [snapback]1480196[/snapback]
Excellent point that is difficult to argue with since it did actually happen.


Yes but, compared to the 1930's todays technology and our understanding of such things is beyond compare.
the blue rinse crowd might spit the dummy but , the majority already believe. or have heard of UFO's.
character
Well for one admiting such information would cause alot of panic,also if they have alien technology there is the question of using for the benefit of the general public, which, ofcouse, would be expensive and more importantly they (whoever would have the technology) would be hard pressed to share such technology with other nations. Its in human nature to be paranoid so goverments are always hiding something, just not neccesarily anything related to ufos or aliens
SOUL-DRIFTER
QUOTE(thaimad @ Dec 30 2006, 11:32 PM) [snapback]1479987[/snapback]
just been reading about Nasa"s plans to return to the moon, and beyond no doupt.
And I wondered if the US Govt has all this secret UFO anti-gravity technology, that people who believe ufo's are from earth and not space. Then why don't they use it for space exploration. Is the cost of keeping it secret(should they actually have it) worth more than the billions they would save the US tax payers,
by building solid fuel rockets and space craft.

Is this technology firmly in the hands of the armed forces.? if so when are they going to start using it. If I was an american tax payer I would be kind of intereted in what my Govt is doing, which leads to the question....If there is no secret technology , then who or what is flying the friendly skies over the USA and rest of the world.

It is 2007 ....do govts really think they can keep people in the dark , we have the technology to communicate all over the planet in an instant.
they should fear the people,, not control them.

First, the technology is held in Black Ops Departments which work to continue to maintain absolute secrecy by limiting personnel access. It will remain that way until the power and money hungary individuals deem it in their own best interest to release it and allow the armed forces and civilian corporations to apply the technology for the betterment of all.
The economical impact of these technologies, while good for the public, are bad for them for power and money. Hence, you may NEVER see them.
rob lester
I truly wonder what if anything would happen if the Government came out and said " yes , we have crashed objects , yes we are reverse engineering them , no , we do not know where they came from"....So what?They would not put them out for public display.What would this really do?It would make people say "see , told you so" , or " the Bible never said God only created things here"...That would all blow over in a week.Than the conspiracy theorists would come in.Remember them?

9/11 - Not caused by Terrorists.

Who shot JFJ.

HAARP

Philadelphia Experiment.

The tuskagee study.

Etc...My point is , even if the Government said anything , a lot of people do not believe them anyway.This "release" of UFO's in Government hands would just be another "cover up" for somethng bigger , and something else to talk about for years to come.Than it would be " let us see them" with no response , so on and so forth.Nothing will ever come out of the "Alien" mystery unless a huge attack , or mass fly-overs over every major city , and small town in the world.Even than no one would really know what they are.Just that they exist.We were told God exists , yet does everyone believe that?....Until "they" decide to take over and make us slaves , or come here and teach the world how to get along , or whatever they are supposedly going to do , we will never know for sure.
m. Moe
QUOTE(MasterPo @ Dec 30 2006, 11:00 PM) [snapback]1480009[/snapback]
I've read claims that the B-2 Stealth Bomber uses anti-gravity technology, reverse-engineered from captured UFOs. Story goes that the stealth design of the B-2 makes it impossible to fly by normal aerodynamic laws. So it needs anti-gravtity tech to get it air borne.

No, I do not believe that the B-2 Spirit uses anti-gravity technology. But when first shown to pilots they thought that it was a joke. Also, interestingly enough, around when the B-2 started taking test flights there was a major increase in UFO sightings, all of them were triangular. So although it doesn't use UFO engines, it is still pretty interesting how all those people spotted them. thumbsup.gif
Moro
Have any of you ever heard of Sherry Shriner? I think she might have a good bit of knowledge of what is really going on around our planet!

By Sherry Shriner
Over the years I’ve heard from many people about their experiences with aliens and demons, and even the military. In fact so much is intermixed at times it’s hard to figure out exactly which group is the exact cause of the various experiences and abductions.

Satan has a strong foothold in our government and military, in fact he's running both, literally as the military/industrial/government complex is nothing more than a Luciferian takeover of our country. Through the "aliens" he controls the world today. Who are the aliens? They are the fallen angels who rebelled with him, Lucifer, during his rebellion against the Most High. Part of their punishment was to lose their angelic looks. And even yet, some of the alien races such as the small greys that are one of the most popular today, are manufactured and created. Something like our own auto industry today. Need a grey? Just pump one out. They are created beings by the fallen angels to do their footwork on the frontline. The frontline being the closest one between them and us and that many times includes actual contact with humans.

Perhaps millions of people have had experiences with these grey aliens whether they came in physical contact with them in some way or saw them. Most alien abduction scenarios include the involvement of grey aliens.

With other types of abductions people have described seeing military officers in a more military type setting and describe places such as NORAD. Many people can’t grasp the fact that our own government and military flies and possesses their own UFO air craft. And from what I have seen it’s so similar to actual alien craft most people wouldn’t be able to tell the difference. That’s why if you research the alien and UFO phenomenon you will run into stories of people who have seen actual UFOs fly into mountainous bases, or under the water or to underground bases in the desert because they’re not always alien bases but military bases. In fact there are 131 DUMB's (deep underground military bases) that are shared jointly by aliens and our military. They are working TOGETHER.

We have our own facilities such as the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in California and several others who build these UFOs. Where did we get the technology? From a combination of crashed UFOs and from the aliens themselves who have helped our gov/mil develop their own fleets of them in exchange for their ”aliens don’t exist” official policy. It’s the government’s job to deny their existence so the aliens can continue human abductions under a cloud of conspiracy and secrecy.

How many times over the years has the government or military created a bureau or group to study UFOs and aliens to come out with the official explanation they don’t exist? Despite the glaring proof and perhaps thousands of official reports from citizens who have had contact with them. They’re doing their job to deny the existence of aliens, it’s part of the treaty agreements our past presidents Eisenhower and Roosevelt signed with them starting back in the 1930's and continues to this day. Is our White House involved with having contact and continued relations with aliens? Yes!
Link - SherryShrinerNwo
SOUL-DRIFTER
I do not have much faith, in those that still believe in Satan or the Devil...sorry.
Stellar
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Excellent point that is difficult to argue with since it did actually happen.


Granted... but it was presented as a news report and in it the aliens were destroying the Earth..
Graylady
QUOTE(thaimad @ Dec 31 2006, 07:18 AM) [snapback]1480080[/snapback]
So the million dollar question is.... why the constant denials and cover-ups. If half the population believe them to exist, why just just front up and say..ok yes aliens come here , we have their technology , we don't know their agenda.!

Maybe the real truth is the world Govt's are more afraid of our visiters than they are of their voters...

alien.gif for president!!


are you talking about your country population or the world population?

If you are talking about the world population then I will say (4 Billion) ASIAN people still don't know what UFO and ALIENS are...Like me..I never ever heard about aliens, ufos, big foots, loch ness, ghost other paranormal activity that goes on around the world...I got to know all this weird thing when i settled in USA and had nightmares when I first hear all this paranormal existence..Yes also don't ignore the skeptics population because they never believed in such things...
thaimad
true , I'm from newzealand but live in thailand now, there are parts of asia where there is a general lack of lknowledge about such things, I know in Thailand there is a very strong belief in ghosts and spirits (nearly every thai movie is about ghosts)....if we stick to western countries then yes people are clued up, due to news reports and programs on tv. In asia this type of thing IE the paranormal/ UFO is not given airtime.

I have seen unexplained lights in both NZ and thailand, and my beleive we are under alien observation. and I personally can't wait till they beam us up.!!
MID
QUOTE(thaimad @ Dec 31 2006, 12:32 AM) [snapback]1479987[/snapback]
just been reading about Nasa"s plans to return to the moon, and beyond no doupt.
And I wondered if the US Govt has all this secret UFO anti-gravity technology, that people who believe ufo's are from earth and not space. Then why don't they use it for space exploration. Is the cost of keeping it secret(should they actually have it) worth more than the billions they would save the US tax payers,
by building solid fuel rockets and space craft.



Well,
The major part of the question is in the "if".

Let's just say that they do in fact have access to some form of alien technology.
The reason for not using it would probably be because they don't know how to use it. The technology involved in interstellar travel would likely be so far in advance of our present technology, that it would take many, many years to understand it, let alone implement it pragmatically.

IF they had access to it, the cost of keeping it secret would be little in comparison to the costs of studying it, and attempting to understand and utilize it. And this cost of space exploration thing is relatively over-valued at any rate.

In the past month, Americans have spent 4 times more than they will spend over the next 10 years to implement a return to the Moon. They spent this money on Christmas. By the time we actually do land on the Moon again, approximately 8 trillion dollars will have been spent on Christmas alone by Americans...which is about 80 times what will be spent on returning to the Moon in the same period.

The cost factor is not one, relatively speaking.

However, the IF is a big one. I think the reason that alien technology is not used for space exploration is because we don't have it.

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