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cnufos4u
I've read so many times how UFO researchers and abductees talk about being followed by M.I.B. or plain clothes guys hiding out in cars but have yet to see any evidence. Until I was followed and photographed while video-taping 2 UFOs one afternoon in downtown Phoenix.

It is not easy for me to post this story but I feel it is important to show many of you that some of us are not paranoid and have the video proof to back it up. This is one of those rare moments when we actually see evidence to what so many of us have talked about to our trusted friends and family in private.

Sad to say that getting involved with UFOs and having a website will make the government nervous to a certain degree. That is until you get the mother ship on video.

Here's my story of being followed and photographed - http://www.cnufos.com/pages/newsandstories/spyguystory.htm

I put together 6 videos in the sequence of which this happened. Part 1 says it all.

Story by
Rich Giordano
http://www.cnufos.com
Host - AzSkywatchers UFO Radio Show
Blazea58
It is a very intresting occurance and i do believe that something was more to this guys action then you may be aware of. The fact he dodged you is quite suspicious though, so to some degree it does seem targetted towards you.

Who is Jeff Willis that you speak of within the taping? And why would that have an impact if it were so etc. You being involved in the ufo field so highl i really woulnd't doubt they have some kind of watch on your site atleast to see updates incase it's something of our own your getting on video, and is top secret. Something to this degree doesn't seem far fetched in my opinion as we can't only say this would be to cover up aliens, but maybe something of their own which has very advanced technology.

I wish you would have followed the guy , like if he got into a vehicle you should have driven to catch up, or seen where he went when he left behind the building.
Miracle Alien Girl
QUOTE(cnufos4u @ Dec 31 2006, 09:22 PM) [snapback]1481121[/snapback]
I've read so many times how UFO researchers and abductees talk about being followed by M.I.B. or plain clothes guys hiding out in cars but have yet to see any evidence. Until I was followed and photographed while video-taping 2 UFOs one afternoon in downtown Phoenix.

It is not easy for me to post this story but I feel it is important to show many of you that some of us are not paranoid and have the video proof to back it up. This is one of those rare moments when we actually see evidence to what so many of us have talked about to our trusted friends and family in private.

Sad to say that getting involved with UFOs and having a website will make the government nervous to a certain degree. That is until you get the mother ship on video.

Here's my story of being followed and photographed - http://www.cnufos.com/pages/newsandstories/spyguystory.htm

I put together 6 videos in the sequence of which this happened. Part 1 says it all.

Story by
Rich Giordano
http://www.cnufos.com
Host - AzSkywatchers UFO Radio Show


ok so which dude is the spy. the one in the car or the dude with the carmara and stand then walking away. i'm confussed.
Miracle Alien Girl
QUOTE(Blazea58 @ Dec 31 2006, 09:33 PM) [snapback]1481127[/snapback]
It is a very intresting occurance and i do believe that something was more to this guys action then you may be aware of. The fact he dodged you is quite suspicious though, so to some degree it does seem targetted towards you.

Who is Jeff Willis that you speak of within the taping? And why would that have an impact if it were so etc. You being involved in the ufo field so highl i really woulnd't doubt they have some kind of watch on your site atleast to see updates incase it's something of our own your getting on video, and is top secret. Something to this degree doesn't seem far fetched in my opinion as we can't only say this would be to cover up aliens, but maybe something of their own which has very advanced technology.

I wish you would have followed the guy , like if he got into a vehicle you should have driven to catch up, or seen where he went when he left behind the building.


dudged him what do you mean by dodged?
Marley
Thats crazy.

McKenna, those are the same people...
Miracle Alien Girl
Ok. What a waste of my time.
furryman
strange unless it is the same guy. by the way that footage was taken on my birthday thumbsup.gif
darkninja
OK, that was stupid. Who was holding the camera, because they really suck at holding it steady and not swinging it around and shooting everything but what they should be. Horrible...
Xackek
The occurances you described in the link sound like gang stalking to me. Read it in a different forum here, but perhaps gangs are playing psychological war fare with you. Maybe the government hired some to freak you out, corperations do that to important people that know too much . ph34r.gif
ShaunZero
Great video, and very interesting. One thing that makes me sick.... all these people making rude remarks towards those who post videos on these forums. Nothing but morons. You can be skeptical without being so rude.
Decepticon
WOW! Cool stuff!
LiQuiD_FuSioN
Okay, honestly, I viewed the whole series of videos.. the basic conclusion you seem to keep using is that one guy ran away when you looked at him with a camera. That can be a little strange, but it doesn't really say much. Judging from the way you reacted, I can say you really started jumping to conclusions!

The other occurances throughout your life can only be described as "bad luck". Sh*t happens, man. Break-ins happen all the time across the U.S. I'd just relax.. because I don't think the government would waste any time on amateur footage of a UFO. Just my opinions.
Jjbreen
I have to agree with LiQuiD_FuSioN -

I think you are getting a little 'over board'.

First question you have to ask - why would anyonr of importance bother? Really come one, like some how OUR tax dollars need to be spent following you - when we have terrorist to be concerned with. blink.gif

I don't wish this to sound like a "dis" - but your stuff just isn't that "Important" on a government level or degree. Now maybe there are some that are trying to follow in your foot steps. Hey feel honored there! You are a leader!!

But no - there is nothing that would suggest the government would care what you are doing - it 's just not that 'news worthy'. Again I'm sorry for the 'tone' - but it's just not.

Move on - if you are happy with what you are doing - keep doing it....
Bill Hill

Reminds me of the massive attack lyric -

I was lookin' back to see if you were lookin' back at me to see me lookin' back at you.
cnufos4u
QUOTE(Blazea58 @ Dec 31 2006, 10:33 PM) [snapback]1481127[/snapback]
It is a very intresting occurance and i do believe that something was more to this guys action then you may be aware of. The fact he dodged you is quite suspicious though, so to some degree it does seem targetted towards you.

Who is Jeff Willis that you speak of within the taping? And why would that have an impact if it were so etc. You being involved in the ufo field so highl i really woulnd't doubt they have some kind of watch on your site atleast to see updates incase it's something of our own your getting on video, and is top secret. Something to this degree doesn't seem far fetched in my opinion as we can't only say this would be to cover up aliens, but maybe something of their own which has very advanced technology.

I wish you would have followed the guy , like if he got into a vehicle you should have driven to catch up, or seen where he went when he left behind the building.


I did go over to where he was but I had to fit the tripod into my car and grab my camera bag and decide if I wanted to go over there. I took my time driving over there because I didn't think at the time that anyone would actually be following me. It took me about 50 seconds to get over there. ALso I did not have a website at this time so someone was following me because of something else. Everything was new to me back in 2004. UFOs on video, going on radio shows and tv were not in my plans back then but I did get some radio time a month before this day. I can't figure it out and that is what bugs me the most.

I wasn't prepared for this but since then alot has happened which I am now prepared for. Not all fun for me.
cnufos4u
QUOTE(McKenna @ Dec 31 2006, 10:34 PM) [snapback]1481128[/snapback]
ok so which dude is the spy. the one in the car or the dude with the carmara and stand then walking away. i'm confussed.



The one walking away. Sorry about that. It seems the volume needs to be turned up to hear the conversation. It sounded good on my end but I need to make the volume louder or you would have to turn up your computer's volume. I am sorry for the low volume.
cnufos4u
QUOTE(darkninja @ Jan 1 2007, 12:36 AM) [snapback]1481190[/snapback]
OK, that was stupid. Who was holding the camera, because they really suck at holding it steady and not swinging it around and shooting everything but what they should be. Horrible...



The reason the camera was not aimed at the security guard was because I did not want him to know I was recording our conversation. If I pointed it in his face then he might not have been as cooperative as he was. SOme people are camera shy or hat being on camera. I played it safe but it is what it is. Sorry I didn't have time to plan this out for a perfect interview and I went on the body language of the security guard. He seemed a little aggressive in his approach towards me and if I pointed a camera in his face he would have asked me to turn it off. It was a judgement call and I feel it was the correct one. He answered all my quesitons.

The point is someone was watching me and took off before I could get to his location. I don't know If you read the story but it should make sense.
cnufos4u
QUOTE(LiQuiD_FuSioN @ Jan 1 2007, 01:47 AM) [snapback]1481226[/snapback]
Okay, honestly, I viewed the whole series of videos.. the basic conclusion you seem to keep using is that one guy ran away when you looked at him with a camera. That can be a little strange, but it doesn't really say much. Judging from the way you reacted, I can say you really started jumping to conclusions!

The other occurances throughout your life can only be described as "bad luck". Sh*t happens, man. Break-ins happen all the time across the U.S. I'd just relax.. because I don't think the government would waste any time on amateur footage of a UFO. Just my opinions.



I feel the same way and agree with you. WHo am I with this amateur footage anyway? I am a nobody really. I may think I am somebody but I am really a nothing when it comes to the scheme of things. I have relaxed to a normal paranoid stage like before all this happened and do not feel like I am being watched anymore. It would be a great coincidence though.

I also wondered why someone would make themselves so visible if they didn't want me to know they were watching me? It seems like he went out of his way to get caught on video like this. Maybe it was a sign to tell me that getting into UFO research may not be a good idea but then that's talking paranoid again. Maybe it was all a coincidence
cnufos4u
QUOTE(Jjbreen @ Jan 1 2007, 02:39 AM) [snapback]1481245[/snapback]
I have to agree with LiQuiD_FuSioN -

I think you are getting a little 'over board'.

First question you have to ask - why would anyonr of importance bother? Really come one, like some how OUR tax dollars need to be spent following you - when we have terrorist to be concerned with. blink.gif

I don't wish this to sound like a "dis" - but your stuff just isn't that "Important" on a government level or degree. Now maybe there are some that are trying to follow in your foot steps. Hey feel honored there! You are a leader!!

But no - there is nothing that would suggest the government would care what you are doing - it 's just not that 'news worthy'. Again I'm sorry for the 'tone' - but it's just not.

Move on - if you are happy with what you are doing - keep doing it....



Agreed...well said and no offense was taken. I can't see anything of importance with me either for anyone to follow me.
WaltFreakinWhitman
After watching the Videos and reading the story I guess my question is.. If it happened two years ago why are you just now putting it on your website
and posting it here?
LiQuiD_FuSioN
QUOTE(cnufos4u @ Jan 2 2007, 01:14 AM) [snapback]1481881[/snapback]
I also wondered why someone would make themselves so visible if they didn't want me to know they were watching me? It seems like he went out of his way to get caught on video like this. Maybe it was a sign to tell me that getting into UFO research may not be a good idea but then that's talking paranoid again. Maybe it was all a coincidence


Well, maybe it was his lunch break? Could have been shy too, hehe.

But, feeling paranoid can be really stressful. I still have a social phobia that makes me feel like everyone is talking/laughing behind my back. All I can say is thanks for giving us your experiences.. they certainly are enigmatic and interesting. I just hope you don't worry your life away about these occurances. Like you said on your website "Am I just paranoid?" - I wouldn't fret over it any longer, but when the time comes.. you'll be ready for anything that comes along. thumbsup.gif
ShaunZero
QUOTE(LiQuiD_FuSioN @ Jan 1 2007, 02:47 AM) [snapback]1481226[/snapback]
Okay, honestly, I viewed the whole series of videos.. the basic conclusion you seem to keep using is that one guy ran away when you looked at him with a camera. That can be a little strange, but it doesn't really say much. Judging from the way you reacted, I can say you really started jumping to conclusions!

The other occurances throughout your life can only be described as "bad luck". Sh*t happens, man. Break-ins happen all the time across the U.S. I'd just relax.. because I don't think the government would waste any time on amateur footage of a UFO. Just my opinions.



Actually, that last bit isn't true. They have done it before and it was filmed and shown on a show which aired on The Discovery Channel. Forgot the name though. It was a man who would regularly film Area 51 as much as he could. He'd store many photos, videos, audio files, etc in his house, when one day unmarked blacked cars drove up to his house when he was away, busted his door down, and stole all of his data.
Jeffryw
cnufos4u you are in violation of the intergalactic codes. We have been following and watching you. We saw you go to your bank the other day, and we folowed you when you bought that candy bar at the store too.
SavvyWitch
QUOTE(JoshB @ Dec 29 2006, 07:34 AM) [snapback]1477444[/snapback]
What People Dont Get is

There has been a war going on over there for the past 2000, it cant end like a snap, When someone is born over there they are taught to hate eachother,
So They are going to fight and fight until one of them blows themselves up, They think their religion is the only real one and the other country thinks theirs is, So they fight, And This is how it will end aswell...



Exactly. thumbsup.gif
cnufos4u
QUOTE(Jeffryw @ Jan 1 2007, 11:56 PM) [snapback]1482356[/snapback]
cnufos4u you are in violation of the intergalactic codes. We have been following and watching you. We saw you go to your bank the other day, and we folowed you when you bought that candy bar at the store too.



Sorry but I do my banking online. I tracked down your IP address where you also visited my website. Here's what you wrote and it's being taken very seriously. Don't be surprised if I find out who you are. Wooly.

This is 2 emails I received from this person.

"ur site is nothong but/all bulsh**.its not even areal off those like a
witneses,video's/pics you stop this site u just making fun off those real believer
people"

also you wrote in another email

"u realy,better stop what ur doing dont make people believe on ur nonsense
creation.one day u will right in front off your eyes w/66 inchs far away"

If that's not a threat then I don't know what is. If I were you I would go back to pre-school and learn how to spell...Jeff W.

I am not wasting my time with someone of your intelligence.
Aztec Warrior
Since I have photographed a UFO, should I be expecting a visit from the MIB?
Xackek
^^ Dont expect them. They already came o.o
cnufos4u
QUOTE(Aztec Warrior @ Jan 2 2007, 08:43 AM) [snapback]1482741[/snapback]
Since I have photographed a UFO, should I be expecting a visit from the MIB?


It all depends on the many variables regarding the photo and you. Maybe they are guardians or protectors of the skywatcher. Could be a good thing. It's all perspective.
WaltFreakinWhitman
QUOTE(WaltFreakinWhitman @ Jan 1 2007, 09:39 PM) [snapback]1481991[/snapback]
After watching the Videos and reading the story I guess my question is.. If it happened two years ago why are you just now putting it on your website
and posting it here?


Still wondering innocent.gif
cnufos4u
QUOTE(WaltFreakinWhitman @ Jan 2 2007, 06:31 PM) [snapback]1483669[/snapback]
Still wondering innocent.gif


Sorry for delay...

I was recently on a radio show talking about being followed and how this series of events changed my life. I posted this because I want to remind everyone that if you delve in the field of UFOs to be very careful. That many of the rumors/stories of other skywatchers being followed could be true. How many times have we heard of people saying that they are being followed or that they feel like they are being watched but have no proof? Well...I have proof.

Was this a coincidence? Maybe, maybe not. Then we have to ask the question, "Why me?" When I was followed I didn't have a website but did go on a radio show the day before this happened and talked about my footage. Back then I was new to the scene and they went out of their way to make me see them photographing me with hopes that I will stop taping UFOs. ALso back then there was a flap of UFO sightings and I was one of the people seeing UFOs and taping them? I don't know their motives but I was followed and probably photographed more than I know.

Even though I posted this once before on my website last year I try to refresh everyone's memory that anyone of us can be followed. It's more than a coincidence.

I hope this helps. It was an obvious answer though.
Mister Meow
The average person in the United States lives in fantasy land. Our rights are constantly being eroded. The patriot act makes it legal for you to be locked up and having your constitutional rights stripped. If one person can lose their rights, none of us have rights.

Having someone video taping you, while you are taping an object in the sky, is not a normal occurance. Having someone follow you and video tape you anywhere, is not a normal occurance. Having people in suits trying to break into your house is not normal.

We all have god given rights, and human rights, and no government can take those away. I would say keep doing what you are doing. Even if some of the objects you tape turn up to be nothing or something extraordinary, I think its a really fun hobby. In a way, what you are doing I think is a public service.

I would love to see the faces of those nay-sayyers when you photograph some giant mother ship or something. The people who think there are no such things as ghosts, spirits, or UFO's, they are the ones who live in fantasy land. Only those who are enlightended are able to open their minds and think independently.

keep up the good work!

Jeff


cnufos4u
QUOTE(Mister Meow @ Jan 4 2007, 08:52 AM) [snapback]1486252[/snapback]
The average person in the United States lives in fantasy land. Our rights are constantly being eroded. The patriot act makes it legal for you to be locked up and having your constitutional rights stripped. If one person can lose their rights, none of us have rights.

Having someone video taping you, while you are taping an object in the sky, is not a normal occurance. Having someone follow you and video tape you anywhere, is not a normal occurance. Having people in suits trying to break into your house is not normal.

We all have god given rights, and human rights, and no government can take those away. I would say keep doing what you are doing. Even if some of the objects you tape turn up to be nothing or something extraordinary, I think its a really fun hobby. In a way, what you are doing I think is a public service.

I would love to see the faces of those nay-sayyers when you photograph some giant mother ship or something. The people who think there are no such things as ghosts, spirits, or UFO's, they are the ones who live in fantasy land. Only those who are enlightended are able to open their minds and think independently.

keep up the good work!

Jeff


Thank you Jeff. My sentiments exactly!!! SOmeday when I get the mother ship we wilol see their faces! Thanks...
Mesobaite
I don't know if it will be you but I'm sure its going to happen real soon. I can sense it...I feel it in the air.

I keep telling skeptical family and friends that when I see the shocked look on their faces from a UFO 'revelation' on CNN or Fox News that will be the most gratifiying day of my life.

People are too enthralled in their little 'boxes' of thought trend to even consider the obvious. And its a shame that even though we are supposedly the most advanced species here on earth we are so closed minded.
MVxK
I'm sorry, I don't see anything in those videos at all.

In parts 2-6, you're filming the ground while walking about being followed. Why did you post those? Where is the evidence he was filming you? The car was quite a way away, and with the glare from the sun, I'm suprised you could see anything.

So, we have:

1) A guy with a tripod walking away
2-6) You talking about a car in a parking lot, which is "unmarked" (despite being at an angle where you can't see whether it actually is or not), with blacked out windows (again, which we don't see) in the glaring sun. And thats it.

So, out of 6 videos, we can narrow it down to 1 that has any evidence of you being followed.

So, a question. If he was trying to secretly follow you, without your realising, why was he using a tripod? The difference in time it takes for him to fold it up and walk away, he's been noticed. I'm not being funny, but I severely doubt that a tripod is standard issue to someone who has to make themselves as discreet as possible.

And another thing - if you were so sure he was filming you, why didn't you lean your camera on the roof of your car to get a proper, still, recognisable take of him?
MVxK
QUOTE(Mesobaite @ Jan 4 2007, 04:29 PM) [snapback]1486306[/snapback]
And its a shame that even though we are supposedly the most advanced species here on earth we are so closed minded.


No, its a good thing that the most advanced species on earth prefer to use logic and reason over hysteria-like mentality.

(Well, some of us do anyway).
Mesobaite
Logic and reason cry out to us the obvious.

In a universe of billions of galaxies with each galaxy having billions of stars and each star with tens of planets; logic and reason shout out that we are not alone. It is reasonably logical that in this scenario we call our universe we are not the only 'advanced' life forms.
Oderint
a few things:

would a member of FBI or a "secret agency" really film you using a tripod, standing in the open? or would he do it from a hiding spot so that you wouldn't spot him?

and would said guy, dressed as a "bum" use a "unmarked car" with blacked windows? or would he have got hold of a old car with a random license plate?


Don't get me wrong, I believe there are life-forms out there and all. but this guy didn't strike me as a secret agent of ANY proper caliber.
cnufos4u
QUOTE(MVxK @ Jan 4 2007, 09:35 AM) [snapback]1486314[/snapback]
I'm sorry, I don't see anything in those videos at all.

In parts 2-6, you're filming the ground while walking about being followed. Why did you post those? Where is the evidence he was filming you? The car was quite a way away, and with the glare from the sun, I'm suprised you could see anything.

So, we have:

1) A guy with a tripod walking away
2-6) You talking about a car in a parking lot, which is "unmarked" (despite being at an angle where you can't see whether it actually is or not), with blacked out windows (again, which we don't see) in the glaring sun. And thats it.

So, out of 6 videos, we can narrow it down to 1 that has any evidence of you being followed.

So, a question. If he was trying to secretly follow you, without your realising, why was he using a tripod? The difference in time it takes for him to fold it up and walk away, he's been noticed. I'm not being funny, but I severely doubt that a tripod is standard issue to someone who has to make themselves as discreet as possible.

And another thing - if you were so sure he was filming you, why didn't you lean your camera on the roof of your car to get a proper, still, recognisable take of him?



I am not going to repeat myself. I explained myself a few times in the forum and in the story. You didn't read or you would have known why this or why that! I leave it up to you to decide why someone would follow someone else. Your guess is as good as mine. If you read the story you will see there are too many coincidences. Things that never happened to me before until I got into UFOs. It's very easy for you to sit there and critisize me for my horrible efforts. Read the other posts by me to find your questions. It is there you will see the answers.
cnufos4u
QUOTE(Prawus @ Jan 4 2007, 05:22 PM) [snapback]1487113[/snapback]
a few things:

would a member of FBI or a "secret agency" really film you using a tripod, standing in the open? or would he do it from a hiding spot so that you wouldn't spot him?

and would said guy, dressed as a "bum" use a "unmarked car" with blacked windows? or would he have got hold of a old car with a random license plate?
Don't get me wrong, I believe there are life-forms out there and all. but this guy didn't strike me as a secret agent of ANY proper caliber.


He didn''t strike me as an agent either. But don't you think that's the best disquise?
Oderint
QUOTE(cnufos4u @ Jan 5 2007, 02:03 AM) [snapback]1487155[/snapback]
He didn''t strike me as an agent either. But don't you think that's the best disquise?

yes ofcourse the "non-agent look" is the best disguise, but why didn't he try to hide? and IF he was a agent, why did he go away when you saw him? That only creates suspicion and makes you want to follow and confront him.
If he'd just stayed put and continued filming something else, you could have talked to him and he'd have a story prepared to explain what he was doing.

IF this guy was a agent or "one of them", then I'd say he did a extremely sloppy job.

To be honest it looks more like the whole thing was planned, but without much thought.

Sorry to be a sceptic, but this just seem staged to me. too much that doesn't make sense at all.
chaoszerg
No offense but that guy in the video did not seem like he was taking pics of you but probably pic's of the supposed ufo you were filming. I think your getting paranoid. ( sorry)
cnufos4u
QUOTE(Prawus @ Jan 4 2007, 06:13 PM) [snapback]1487179[/snapback]
yes ofcourse the "non-agent look" is the best disguise, but why didn't he try to hide? and IF he was a agent, why did he go away when you saw him? That only creates suspicion and makes you want to follow and confront him.
If he'd just stayed put and continued filming something else, you could have talked to him and he'd have a story prepared to explain what he was doing.

IF this guy was a agent or "one of them", then I'd say he did a extremely sloppy job.

To be honest it looks more like the whole thing was planned, but without much thought.

Sorry to be a sceptic, but this just seem staged to me. too much that doesn't make sense at all.


Staged? That's laughable. If it were staged it would have been done much better than this. I can't take you opinion personally because it didn't happen to you and you weren't there so what else would you say? If it were planned then it was done without much thought and that is why this wasn't planned. Alot of people think the movies are the way reality happens and that's why I can't take anything personally here.

It was real and maybe a coincidence but it seems to me that you didn't read my story or you wouldn't have made that comment.
WaltFreakinWhitman
QUOTE(cnufos4u @ Jan 4 2007, 10:39 AM) [snapback]1486233[/snapback]
I hope this helps. It was an obvious answer though.

I don't see how your answer was "obvious" although if you put it on your website a year ago that sorta helps. I don't believe the guy in the video was a Govt official or anything of the sort. I can't explain why he was "following you" that day. All I can say is he doesn't look like a Govt Agent. Anywhoo good luck to you as you continue your pursuit of the truth they are hiding from us thumbsup.gif
cnufos4u
QUOTE(WaltFreakinWhitman @ Jan 4 2007, 08:17 PM) [snapback]1487354[/snapback]
I don't see how your answer was "obvious" although if you put it on your website a year ago that sorta helps. I don't believe the guy in the video was a Govt official or anything of the sort. I can't explain why he was "following you" that day. All I can say is he doesn't look like a Govt Agent. Anywhoo good luck to you as you continue your pursuit of the truth they are hiding from us thumbsup.gif


To be honest I need to do a better job explaining myself and my situations whenever posting to a forum like this. I usually don't post anything unless I feel it's important and maybe someone else has seen this guy. When I posted this to my site 2 yrs ago I received an email from a gentleman who said he's seen the same guy. He then sent me a picture of this guy sitting in his car outside his house months before I shot my video of him watching me.

Here's a thought...If he had nothing to hide then why wouldn't he want to make contact with me to see what I was videotaping? It's one of those things that makes you wonder why. Plus the many other unfortunate timely incidences which have no clear explanation. I may be a little paranoid but not much more than before this happened. I blow it off like it is a coincidence now because the reality of it is it probably is a coincidence. I am not a wacky guy who lives in the sticks with limited education (stereotype). I have a great sense of what is going on around me at all time to the best of my ability of course. That came with studying people in college and taking psychology for a few years along with criminology courses. I read many books about how people are professional liars, thieves etc... SO what I am saying is that this was not normal and you just had to be there to feel it out. I will do better next time in my story telling.

Thank you for the support. Happy New Year!
ShaunZero
QUOTE(MVxK @ Jan 4 2007, 10:37 AM) [snapback]1486319[/snapback]
No, its a good thing that the most advanced species on earth prefer to use logic and reason over hysteria-like mentality.

(Well, some of us do anyway).


It's logical to assume there are more advanced species somewhere in the universe.

It's not illogical to believe that some of these UFOs are from somewhere else in the universe.

It's illogical, or at least farfetched to believe that after all of these sightings, pictures, UFOs, very possible coverups etc, there is absolutely nothing to suggest something is going on.

It's actually a bit arrogent to beleive that a more advanced species figured out a way to travel across the universe. Just because we can't imagine how it would be done, doesn't mean it can't be done. I wouldn't be surprised if we are on the bottom of the list when it comes to the most intelligent and evolved species in the universe.

Also, it's very possible that these UFOs are man-made secret anti-gravity crafts.

I see not where any of this is illogical. If you do, please explain. I see no need to try and make fun of "believers" by saying they use no logic, when the logic is actually right in your face. It just shows you're biased.
Oderint
QUOTE(cnufos4u @ Jan 5 2007, 02:53 AM) [snapback]1487233[/snapback]
Staged? That's laughable. If it were staged it would have been done much better than this. I can't take you opinion personally because it didn't happen to you and you weren't there so what else would you say? If it were planned then it was done without much thought and that is why this wasn't planned. Alot of people think the movies are the way reality happens and that's why I can't take anything personally here.

It was real and maybe a coincidence but it seems to me that you didn't read my story or you wouldn't have made that comment.

you wanna know what's laughable?
secret agents standing in the middle of a street in broad daylight with a camera on a tripod and blatantly filming a guy who has his camera aimed at the sky.
a secret agent using a "unmarked car" directly after that incident
that's laughable.

sure reality is different from TV (who said it wasn't?), but what makes you think a agent (or whatever you think he was) is stupid enough to stand there like a deer in headlights looking at you and then just walk away when you spot him?.

and what made you take your camera away from what could be a UFO and start filming (and following) a this guy?
I'd think that the discovery of a extraterrestrial craft would be more important than "Guy taking his camera and walks".
explorer

Is Mister Meow on Pg 3 the Jeff Willis in video 1? Why be concerned about him filming you when you appear to know his name yet describe him on your website as a possible govt official or private eye?
You write that you were adjusting the tripod when you noticed him filming you but your camera doesn't move.
He didn't appear to have his camera attached to his tripod.
What about the pixelation around the alleged UFO in video 1. I'm no video analyst but it looks odd. Superimposition?

Lots of holes.
Mister Meow
This guy comes on here with videos of things flying in the air, so he obviously spends a lot of time looking at nothing just to wait for something to fly by. And all half of you do is rag him.

As far as small things like being photographed, or watched, its all part of intimidation. You guys sit behind your keyboards all day shoving Twinkies in your pie holes, looking at internet porn, chatting with 14 year olds, and posting smack on message boards, while this guy is outside with his camera looking for something good to get some pictures of.

Obviously someone doesn't like what he is doing. Whether it is just a couple of stalkers like you guys, or some organized group, government or otherwise, he is being hassled to one degree or another.

Some people like to photograph birds and some people like to photograph ariel activity, whats the difference? Its his time, and his hobby.

So you yankers with nothing better to do, just wipe the sweat off your double chins, stop browsing the junior high school girls on My Space, and go do something creative that doesn't involve eating.
Bill Hill

QUOTE(Mister Meow @ Jan 5 2007, 09:32 AM) [snapback]1487706[/snapback]
You guys sit behind your keyboards all day shoving Twinkies in your pie holes, looking at internet porn, chatting with 14 year olds, and posting smack on message boards, while this guy is outside with his camera looking for something good to get some pictures of.


That's not true... I don't like twinkies!
Oderint
QUOTE(Mister Meow @ Jan 5 2007, 10:32 AM) [snapback]1487706[/snapback]
This guy comes on here with videos of things flying in the air, so he obviously spends a lot of time looking at nothing just to wait for something to fly by. And all half of you do is rag him.

As far as small things like being photographed, or watched, its all part of intimidation. You guys sit behind your keyboards all day shoving Twinkies in your pie holes, looking at internet porn, chatting with 14 year olds, and posting smack on message boards, while this guy is outside with his camera looking for something good to get some pictures of.

Obviously someone doesn't like what he is doing. Whether it is just a couple of stalkers like you guys, or some organized group, government or otherwise, he is being hassled to one degree or another.

Some people like to photograph birds and some people like to photograph ariel activity, whats the difference? Its his time, and his hobby.

So you yankers with nothing better to do, just wipe the sweat off your double chins, stop browsing the junior high school girls on My Space, and go do something creative that doesn't involve eating.

Wow, no wonder they are out to get you. The level of intellect you are showing must scare the crap out of them. Thank god for us "yankers" that you are on this earth and fighting the man for us. rolleyes.gif

Again: I do believe in the existance of ETs and that they may have crafts here on earth. I even think there are some form of organization that don't want the common man to find out about it.
but you have to remember that there's a difference between faith and blind faith. I hope for your sake that you don't believe everything people tell you as long as it fits in your view of the world. Never underestimate the significance of rational thinking.

Your narrowminded insults towards everyone who is not holy enough to spend their days recording the sky only damage yourself and noone else. so please do yourself a favour and rethink your view and at least respect the fact that others don't share it.
and always remember that what you say and how you say it will determine what kind of impression you give people. If you give them a bad impression, they wont believe you and you have to fight your holy war alone.



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