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Tehuti
Why did God start it all, do you think? Life, universe etc.
Jack Black
Your implying he/she did, which is most likely untrue.........
MVxK
The proof for God not creating "Life, universe etc" - Everything we see around us plus every advance in theoretical physics in the last 100 years.

The proof for God creating "Life, universe etc" - A 2000 year old book.

Go. Figure.
Leonardo
While I might not necessarily believe the universe was created by a deity, I can certainly use my imagination and speculate on such a topic without denigrating the OP.

IMO a possible reason for such a creation would be curiosity. Perhaps such a deity may know everything relative to their creation but wonder if there is not something more? Something, perhaps, that a free-willed creation could maybe show/teach them?
Darkwind
I see the Universe as a living entity, creation and growth is a part of being alive.
Adam2006
QUOTE(MVxK @ Jan 2 2007, 11:57 AM) [snapback]1482565[/snapback]
The proof for God creating "Life, universe etc" - A 2000 year old book.


A 2000 yr old book that may have stolen ideas from many other places and civilisations, maybe even 4000 yrs before it was written.

The bible 4000yrs before
Shekinah
We are all made of energy, and thus being, we are equal. 'God' has merely transcended us physically.Not sure someone all knowing would exactly put himself and his ego above the people and write a book that makes him the center of attention if love prevails all. but that's just my 2 cents.
Moondoggy
I think God would be a purposed creative force for lack of a PC description. The Mathematical complexities of the universe themselves seem to dictate an itelligence far beyond where we are at today. Einstein arrived at this conclusion as well. I have forgotten much of the Physics I learned but I seem to recall that it is estimated that there could be about 11 to 14 dimensions in the universe we do not see. I wonder if he "supernatural realm" resides in these and we reside in the physical universe we do see? Only a proposal here as the original question asked "why?". If as the story contends we are created in His image, then maybe His puposes would not be too far from our own in some ways. Ask yourself, if you had creative ability-why would you do it?
TheMeaningOfLife
For what the meaning of life is. Only problem is, no one really knows that that is.
UniversalOverride
The big question is 'what role did WE play in it all?'
Hermenutic
Really interesting comments. A good mix. I agree with some and understand where others are coming from.

Why did God create?

I do not believe in an external God. However I believe something maybe akin to 'The Way' as Lao Tzu spoke of is inexistence. Gary Zukav in 'the Dancing Wu Li Masters' really opened my eyes in this this regard.

I truly appreciate Jesus' view of human relationships that he called 'the Kingdom of God'. I appreciate the teaching of Buddha and Buddhist mysticism as well as Zen.

I think the idea of creation presupposes a creator that is seperate. Whereas I understand an innate, inherrent divinity that is indistinguishable from what is seen.

When I look at others I try to seen the God in them. This is easy with a lover and not so easy with some others. lol But I believe the premise is correct.
exeller
QUOTE(Tehuti @ Jan 2 2007, 10:57 AM) [snapback]1482533[/snapback]
Why did God start it all, do you think? Life, universe etc.


What if he did not create it? what if God and his universe have no beginning, just as they may have no end? wacko.gif
John A Spera
QUOTE(Tehuti @ Jan 2 2007, 10:57 AM) [snapback]1482533[/snapback]
Why did God start it all, do you think? Life, universe etc.


To expand All That Is.

In other words, To Expand Love.
ivytheplant
My answer is the same as it's always been:

God was bored and wanted something to do. It's bad enough sitting in a waiting room with no one to play cards with; an eternity of nothingness must have been brutal.
demonic presence
QUOTE(MVxK @ Jan 2 2007, 06:57 AM) [snapback]1482565[/snapback]
The proof for God not creating "Life, universe etc" - Everything we see around us plus every advance in theoretical physics in the last 100 years.

The proof for God creating "Life, universe etc" - A 2000 year old book.

Go. Figure.

while i agree with this 100% i dont think it was nessessary to post it, if you cant alter your views for one minute to give a theoretical answer to the OP's point of view than you just shouldnt post.

I have also wondered this, if there is a God and he is a perfect being like everyone says, why would he suffer from boredom? why would he NEED anything? he wouldnt need us to exist, but maybe hedoes suffer from boredom and he did make us to get a good laugh, i dont know, though im sure this question has come up many many many times throughout history and no one ever had a good answer for it.
ivytheplant
QUOTE(demonic presence @ Jan 2 2007, 05:48 PM) [snapback]1483605[/snapback]
I have also wondered this, if there is a God and he is a perfect being like everyone says, why would he suffer from boredom? why would he NEED anything? he wouldnt need us to exist, but maybe hedoes suffer from boredom and he did make us to get a good laugh, i dont know, though im sure this question has come up many many many times throughout history and no one ever had a good answer for it.


Well, if he was really that hedonistic, then he'd at least want some toadies running around kissing his butt. Of course then he could have just stopped with the heavenly host or whatever. From what I understand, they're the yes-men. That's why I could easily think god wanted a challenge somewhere to make life interesting so he popped out all these humans who had a knack for telling him to shove it up his angel-kissed derriere.

That's what I'd do if I was god, but that's assuming that being god wouldn't alter my personality in such a way that I would no longer be easily bored or distracted by shiny objects.
Santos
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The proof for God not creating "Life, universe etc" - Everything we see around us plus every advance in theoretical physics in the last 100 years.

Such a close minded statement.
Serpentine
QUOTE(Tehuti @ Jan 2 2007, 10:57 AM) [snapback]1482533[/snapback]
Why did God start it all, do you think? Life, universe etc.


You imply that the creator is an entity separate from the universe at a point in the distant past but I think, for the want of clarification, that the Goddess is the creator, the created and the intent behind the process which is always the fire and light of the here and now.
ND-DAVE
QUOTE(MVxK @ Jan 2 2007, 04:57 AM) [snapback]1482565[/snapback]
The proof for God not creating "Life, universe etc" - Everything we see around us plus every advance in theoretical physics in the last 100 years.

The proof for God creating "Life, universe etc" - A 2000 year old book.

Go. Figure.


When you look at it from your point it apears that you are a big bang theory believer. But with that in mind put in perspective that you are the most intelligent being in the universe and you know everthing about everything. Now take that intellegence and use it to create a universe with stars and planets and inhabitants on those planets. Then take in theory that you are the creator of everything in that universe from the smallest molecule to the most sofisticated and complex creation. For God to make a man for example he had to break down all the fine points in making this man. He also had to think about how man would function in this world and how his physicality would accept diffrent things in this world down to the simplicity of eating a certain berry or drinking a certain quality of water. Then tie that all together and in that broken down sense and maybe you'll realise that God not only created the universe but he created everything inside that universe down to the smallest still unfound microbe. So from my understanding the big bang theory states that everything came to be from a single cellular manifest that spred out and formed everything. so the only question rationalist have on the table is, where'd that "cell" come from or as I like to explain it who created that "cell". So before you start throwing those incomplete irrational """""theoretical"""" physics and sciences into the disscusion think about an intellegent life so great that he created all the things that you base your theories on and that he created all those different things you"ve tried to disprove him with and then maybe you'll see the proof for God creating "Life, Universe ect".
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