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Avery
Hey, this is my first time at the forum, but anyways...

I haven't done much research on the topic, so if anyone has more information, please add it.

Some of the aliens and ufos people spot could actually be humans from the future who used some sort of time travel, such as a wormhole, to go back to our time. My reasons for this are:

1) Why would 'extraterrestrials' from another planet so closely resemble humans? The aliens people spot normally have eyes, arms, head, legs, and even fingers. If aliens from other planets visited us I would at least think they would have evolved to be much different, possible even into something we could not comprehend.

2) The aliens people most often see are big eyed, hairless, small, grey, and seem very in line with the evolution path humans are headed for. As humans evolve, or from what we've seen, they lose more and more hair. Dwarfed limbs and so forth is a dominate trait and likely to become the future.

3) People who spot ufo's and aliens often report the same thing. Small grey creatures with large eyes. Some people who have had alien encounters say they were experimented on or that they were left somewhere after a period of time elapsed and they have no recollection of that time. Whatever encounters you hear of aliens, it usual includes a person or small group or people, and not a mass group. This is why alien encounters are usually so hard to believe. If extraterrestrials came to our planet, it would be likely that they would actually want to communicate with the leaders of big places. After all, they just discovered they aren't alone in the universe and could want to exchange findings with us. Time travlers, however, would want to do things behind the scenes in ways that couldn't hurt the fragile fabric of time too much.

Why would time travelers want to experiment on us? Well, for the same reason we're interesting in cavemen like "Lucy."

Really, I have no idea what aliens are, just putting an idea out there.
m. Moe
Welcome to UM! thumbsup.gif

The part of this theory that I want to point out makes sense is the fact they would come back to study us. Curiosity is in human nature, therefore if they were people from the future then they would probably share that same natural curiousity. But there is a hole in your theory as well. Let's say future people did find a wormhole that would take them back to our time, how would they get back?

And that was bugging me aswell why do all alien encounters resemble humans so much. wink2.gif
Avery
I have no idea how they would have gone to the future or back. To tell you the truth, I have absolutely no idea how wormholes work. wink2.gif Wormholes is just one example. Maybe they have some other way of time travel that we know nothing about.
Sarcasms.Sidekick
Yeah, i have to agree with you. I've always wondered about how alike we look to aliens..or how humans could evolve into what we know aliens look like.
MVxK
QUOTE(Avery @ Jan 2 2007, 10:53 PM) [snapback]1483449[/snapback]
I have no idea how they would have gone to the future or back. To tell you the truth, I have absolutely no idea how wormholes work.


Thats because there is no proof they do work, or even exist.

And the reason people "see" aliens that look like them is the same reason man cast God in his own image - selfishness.
Adam2006
How we perceive Aliens is how we want to see them as little grey men, it is also how all the media see it along with every piece of alien memorabilia created. They are all small, with big heads+eyes and small limbs. They may not be, but this is how people think they should look.

Look at every other creature on Earth. They all follow a similar structure to us: a head, 2 'arms' or upper limbs (wings, flippers etc) and 2 legs (except fish). Surely this must tell you something about life in genral in the universe. This type of structure may be how much of life is created/is in the universe.

They have 'big eyes' suggesting they live somewhere dark: the ocean. This is the one place we know very little about. There have been theory's that these 'aliens' actuall come from Earth itself.

I am not disproving your theory, it is interesting and i can see where you are coming from, though a little far fetched, as is my last comment may be.
MVxK
QUOTE(Adam2006 @ Jan 3 2007, 11:41 AM) [snapback]1484295[/snapback]
There have been theory's that these 'aliens' actuall come from Earth itself.


There is no evidence at all for the existance of aliens, and the proliferation of the "grey alien" image throughout culture is known as "hysteria" - one person claiming to see something, an idea that is latched on to for various psychological reasons by the more suggestable elements of our population.
xstortionist
why would they come back from the future to study humans that today get studied on a 24 hour basis? Doesn't seem very logical either. NEXT!
KILLUMANATI
Aliens being humans of the future.......The thought has crossed my mind. I mean We dont know what they are, Space people, Angels, Demon's, Future humans time traveling, Figments of the Imagine, it's a Mystery.

But when ever one brings up time travel, The Philidalphia Experiment comes to mind...1943. Thats about the same time the US UFO phenomenon began, It's also funny because when ever you read or watch any videos on the P.E. , People say that aliens were involved..So Is Time Travel and the UFO Phenomenon connected to one another? It's not Crazy to think of the possibilitys.

Check This Video Out......These guys are either Lunitic's who cant Fantasy from reality, or The US MILITARY was and is involved with some crazy @#&*!!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4...phia+experiment
The Silver Thong

I'm speculating of course but a theory as to why aliens may look like us may be that the very seeds of life that put us here on earth may also have seeded the universe with similar components/compounds. I mean the first amino acids very well could have been brought to earth billions of years and if that is the case many asteroids could have carried these amino acids to other worlds as well and given somewhat similar conditions may have evolved as did life on earth. With each new world being unique evolution would have created many different species and the chances of a creature evolving into an intellegent bipedal with similar features as humans may very well be possible. Given there are intellegent aliens out there who can say how fast or slow there evolution took place. As far as time travel goes for some reason I do think mankind will be able to travel through time one day. As far as why they would want to study us, well if i were a paleontologist I would love the chance to go back and study the cave man, so why wouldn't mankind from the future not want to study us.
truethat
I think this is as good a theory as any out there. Think 12 monkeys. What if there are only a few humans left due to a virus of some sort. They are trying to change the future by injecting a vaccine in people so that their blood lines will be stronger? Who knows.
Isis2200
QUOTE(Avery @ Jan 2 2007, 05:24 PM) [snapback]1483383[/snapback]
Hey, this is my first time at the forum, but anyways...


Hello Avery, and Welcome to our forum original.gif

My belief is that aliens(at least one faction of them) may be humans from the future. I think they may have come back to try to prevent us from becoming them. This would be true also if the aliens were able to travel along the space/time continuum.

Avery, I wrote a thread about this based on one lecturer, detective's research. This thread can be found at the following link on page 2 of the General Board. The title is "Aliens --Past, Present, and Future?". I think you will be shocked to read the information.

Happy New Year.

http://ashiana.conforums.com/index.cgi

~ Isis
Pelican_Eel
I always liked this theory. Aliens are humans from the future. I think it is very credible.
truethat
Hey maybe this is what the Rapture really means!
king_ivan
The reason people describe aliens as similar resemblance to humans is because they are making it up and following the old model of an ideal alien with the lobe heads and big black eyes, arms, legs.. whatever you want.

If life evolved on another planet such as aliens have, they wouldnt have ears, eyes, nose, mouth or even the pentadactyl limb, exactly as described by others. Evolution would be completely different due to different species and environments so the phenotype to us is unimaginable. So to say aliens have ears, eyes, nose, mouth and pentadactyl limb means they evolved form the SAME common ancestor as humans and every other life form on earth. To state the obvious.. its impossible otherwise they too come from earth. The phenotypes recognised in aliens resembles the same physiology of something that has lived on earth, this is why their claims are false.
truethat
Actually Aliens look a lot more insect like to me than human.

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rapid7

QUOTE(truethat @ Jan 4 2007, 05:06 PM) [snapback]1486358[/snapback]
Actually Aliens look a lot more insect like to me than human.


Truethat, good to see you're living up to your name because that is indeed.. very true. thumbsup.gif

Zombie Boy
It's really a mix, they only resemble insects because of the eyes. The body is humanlike
truethat
Well there usually isn't great detail given to the body. Its like a humanroach
king_ivan
lol descriptions are a mix of both, but even if that is the case to you, insects still come from earth so to share comparative anatomy this doesnt exactly say much for coming from outside earth.
Blueguardian
QUOTE(king_ivan @ Jan 4 2007, 10:30 AM) [snapback]1486006[/snapback]
The reason people describe aliens as similar resemblance to humans is because they are making it up and following the old model of an ideal alien with the lobe heads and big black eyes, arms, legs.. whatever you want.

If life evolved on another planet such as aliens have, they wouldnt have ears, eyes, nose, mouth or even the pentadactyl limb, exactly as described by others. Evolution would be completely different due to different species and environments so the phenotype to us is unimaginable. So to say aliens have ears, eyes, nose, mouth and pentadactyl limb means they evolved form the SAME common ancestor as humans and every other life form on earth. To state the obvious.. its impossible otherwise they too come from earth. The phenotypes recognised in aliens resembles the same physiology of something that has lived on earth, this is why their claims are false.


i was just thinking the same thing lol, in my opinion, there is no way that aliens could look like us unless they evlvolded in similar enviroments to us, it also makes you wonder, if they can brethe our air surly they would have had to come from a similar planet, as for the whole co exinsting together thing im unsure of it, we humans wage war against each other, how can we co exist with another race if we cant co exist with ourselves, and if we did co exist who would get to make all the decisions in the world? sure it would be great if we did co exist with them but what are the chances of another war happening, or a crazy group of people who end up hating them for some reason or another, and then go hunting them, i think things are good the way things are, aslo another question comes to mind if they were going to wage a war on us, why wouldnt they do it as soon as possible, what are they waiting for, anything with common sense would attack while they had the chance, with that in mind theres less chance that they are hostile, who knwos maybe one day we will co exist.
rapid7

Dr. Michael Swords, Professor of Natural Sciences at Western Michigan University, has done a lot of collecting and summarizing of work in this field .
His argument is basically that you may well get different life forms on different planets, but the ones who are going to develop space travel are going to resemble us...humanoid or humanoid-ish
For example, people have postulated that you could have a watery planet with an intelligent creature much like a dolphin. but the fact is, no matter how intelligent that life gets on an aquatic planet, they can't acquire fire age technology. If they can't melt iron, aluminum, titanium and everything else, the chances of them building a spaceship and coming here is very slim.
There's a sort of a selection process built in, that the technological highly advanced creatures that will eventually develop space travel is likely to have an opposable thumb and fingers or something similar to use technology.

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truethat
Well I don't believe that if they are real they are from another planet. I think they are human time travelers. Perhaps we got wiped out by a nuclear war and turned into humanroaches.
rapid7

QUOTE(truethat @ Jan 5 2007, 03:34 PM) [snapback]1488036[/snapback]
Well I don't believe that if they are real they are from another planet. I think they are human time travelers. Perhaps we got wiped out by a nuclear war and turned into humanroaches.


We can't rule out the time traveler hypothesis or theory. Imo it's one of the least likely explanation but it is still valid. The term alien still would suffice as in alien to our time frame.

king_ivan
The time travel theory makes alot more sense to me than beings from another planet. Unless humans got to the point of forming life on a new planet when earth was at an end or overpopulated hence over time evolved to better suit a new environment on another planet with same basic anatomy and then have made time travel possible.. unlikely lol but its not hard to imagine. What i find interesting is even if it were the case of time travel by future humans.. what is so interesting about this time and age? are we leading up to or at the brink of another world war? who knows but it is all fantasy for now lol.
havales
Hi Avery,
The only reason "aliens" look like they do e.g. little grey beings with big eyes, is because that's how hollywood and so called "ufo" experts portray them in movies and in every book and article that has been written on this subject. There is absolutely no evidence that aliens look like that and as for the idea of humans from the future and wormholes, who said that we are evolving into beings that could ever resemble the "greys". In actual fact people are taller and stronger and healthier , due to advancements in medicine , vaccinations , plenty of food rich in iron, vitamins and so on.

Just because the media and hollywood have typecast the aliens as "greys" , it doesn't mean it's true!!!!!!
king_ivan
exactly.. If you did a google search you will find hundreds of different alien descriptions. Its all fiction
morrison1976
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Thats because there is no proof they do work, or even exist.
And the reason people "see" aliens that look like them is the same reason man cast God in his own image - selfishness
HHHmmmm!!!!!

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There is no evidence at all for the existance of aliens, and the proliferation of the "grey alien" image throughout culture is known as "hysteria" - one person claiming to see something, an idea that is latched on to for various psychological reasons by the more suggestable elements of our population.


What are are chatting about!!! there is evidence that life could exist and should exist in the universe. Even in our own solar system there is a chance that life may exist. Grey alien hysteria!!!! you really do make me laugh lol.
king_ivan
We must remember that an alien does not necessarily mean a flying sourcer and little people in them it may even be marine life on another planet or even bacteria! any life form off earth is alien.
avs76
QUOTE(Adam2006 @ Jan 3 2007, 09:41 PM) [snapback]1484295[/snapback]
How we perceive Aliens is how we want to see them as little grey men, it is also how all the media see it along with every piece of alien memorabilia created. They are all small, with big heads+eyes and small limbs. They may not be, but this is how people think they should look.

Look at every other creature on Earth. They all follow a similar structure to us: a head, 2 'arms' or upper limbs (wings, flippers etc) and 2 legs (except fish). Surely this must tell you something about life in genral in the universe. This type of structure may be how much of life is created/is in the universe.

They have 'big eyes' suggesting they live somewhere dark: the ocean. This is the one place we know very little about. There have been theory's that these 'aliens' actuall come from Earth itself.

I am not disproving your theory, it is interesting and i can see where you are coming from, though a little far fetched, as is my last comment may be.

Sorry, mate. I have to disagree with you there:

"According to ESA [Entomological Society of America] member and Pulitzer Prize winner Dr. E.O. Wilson of Harvard University, there are nearly 10,000,000,000,000,000,000 (10 quintillion) insects in the world."

"More than one million different species of insects have been identified, but some experts believe that there may be as many as 30 million insect species in the world that have yet to be discovered and identified." (http://www.entsoc.org/resources/faq.htm#triv1)

Surely that's more than all mammals and avaians on earth. It would seem, then, that an animal, and hence an alien, would more likely be in insect form, as has been alluded to by other posters to this thread.
Adam2006
QUOTE(avs76 @ Jan 8 2007, 06:31 PM) [snapback]1492513[/snapback]
Surely that's more than all mammals and avaians on earth. It would seem, then, that an animal, and hence an alien, would more likely be in insect form, as has been alluded to by other posters to this thread.


I see your point, but i don't see fly's and maggots building civilisations. hmm.gif
I suppose that you could count termites as building a small civilisation.

I agree though that it could be as many have not yet been identified,but i just think it is unlikely. unsure.gif

Perhapse ET is a in a completely new catagory of creature...
The Skeptic Eric Raven
Even though I don't believe it, humans from the future make more sense than aliens.
landscapecontractor
QUOTE(avs76 @ Jan 8 2007, 10:31 AM) [snapback]1492513[/snapback]
Sorry, mate. I have to disagree with you there:

"According to ESA [Entomological Society of America] member and Pulitzer Prize winner Dr. E.O. Wilson of Harvard University, there are nearly 10,000,000,000,000,000,000 (10 quintillion) insects in the world."

"More than one million different species of insects have been identified, but some experts believe that there may be as many as 30 million insect species in the world that have yet to be discovered and identified." (http://www.entsoc.org/resources/faq.htm#triv1)

Surely that's more than all mammals and avaians on earth. It would seem, then, that an animal, and hence an alien, would more likely be in insect form, as has been alluded to by other posters to this thread.

I read somewhere recently that an estimated 10,000 to several million species remain undiscovered. I couldnt find that same article but this one is similarly enlightening. I dont know how accurate any of these people are, but I've read several different articles and all say essentially the same thing....
http://news.mongabay.com/2005/0517-tina_butler.html
shun
I have not looked at the ideas put forth here, but if humans from the future, then it could be anyone from the future- given some kind of "all-knowing". It could even be anyone from this universe generated since carbon stars come into being (since that is our design, and it works), and up to the point of needing time to evolve before catastrophic occurences.

The is a window of opportunity for life as we know it. Prior to that time, the cosmos did not support it. At sometime in every galaxy's existence, it will enter, peak, and pass beyond habitat conditions.

That goes for whatever lies ahead for time and space, as well.
avs76
QUOTE(Adam2006 @ Jan 9 2007, 04:56 AM) [snapback]1492547[/snapback]
I see your point, but i don't see fly's and maggots building civilisations. hmm.gif
I suppose that you could count termites as building a small civilisation.

I agree though that it could be as many have not yet been identified,but i just think it is unlikely. unsure.gif

Perhapse ET is a in a completely new catagory of creature...

Yeh, I see where you are coming from. An alien that looks like a maggot would be disgusting. I hope they never invade earth!

Maybe aliens that look like insects would behave in a similar manner to insects - working together, no individuality, maybe even a collective consciousness.
when.i.am.queen.
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We must remember that an alien does not necessarily mean a flying sourcer and little people in them it may even be marine life on another planet or even bacteria! any life form off earth is alien.


Doesn't alien refer to something that is not similar or unfamiliar to us?
Therefore, if they really did come from the future, would we have to change the name then?

just a thought
king_ivan
QUOTE(when.i.am.queen. @ Jan 9 2007, 05:35 PM) [snapback]1493472[/snapback]
Doesn't alien refer to something that is not similar or unfamiliar to us?
Therefore, if they really did come from the future, would we have to change the name then?

just a thought

Not necessarily.. alien just means foreign, so I meant foreign to earth. And if it did come from the future then i guess we could change the name, but how often is this theory talked about to actually give them a name so i guess alien can be given as they could be from outside our lifetime.
king_ivan
And for the people who believe aliens are insect-like I think you have watched too much starship troopers.
rapid7

QUOTE(king_ivan @ Jan 9 2007, 10:23 AM) [snapback]1493603[/snapback]
And for the people who believe aliens are insect-like I think you have watched too much starship troopers.


You're entitled to your beliefs but this is a lazy example, at least use a film which features a humanoid-ish 6 foot plus praying mantis type alien.
If you can think of any?
sandew
I had a friend who told me that his girlfried had witnessed a ufo so take this for what it is worth. she supposedly saw a ufo that was in a middle state of materiality, like a jello form not completely solid. perhaps it was in a continuum, and in some sort of shift. like a worm hole might cause to a normal materially solid form, about to leave or arrive here.
rapid7

It would probably take more scientific 'breakthroughs' for the human time traveler theory to be correct, than say it would the amount of scientific breakthroughs extraterrestrials would need to accomplish- necessary to achieve an effective form of interstellar travel.
The only improbable aspect is how they found us in the first place.

when.i.am.queen.
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It would probably take more scientific 'breakthroughs' for the human time traveler theory to be correct, than say it would the amount of scientific breakthroughs extraterrestrials would need to accomplish- necessary to achieve an effective form of interstellar travel.
The only improbable aspect is how they found us in the first place.


I was about to say that they wouldnt have to go far seeing as they were us...

but then I realized that I should actually read your comment more closely.
That could have been embarrassing.
Rocket-man
QUOTE(Avery @ Jan 2 2007, 05:24 PM) [snapback]1483383[/snapback]
Hey, this is my first time at the forum, but anyways...

I haven't done much research on the topic, so if anyone has more information, please add it.

Some of the aliens and ufos people spot could actually be humans from the future who used some sort of time travel, such as a wormhole, to go back to our time. My reasons for this are:

1) Why would 'extraterrestrials' from another planet so closely resemble humans? The aliens people spot normally have eyes, arms, head, legs, and even fingers. If aliens from other planets visited us I would at least think they would have evolved to be much different, possible even into something we could not comprehend.

2) The aliens people most often see are big eyed, hairless, small, grey, and seem very in line with the evolution path humans are headed for. As humans evolve, or from what we've seen, they lose more and more hair. Dwarfed limbs and so forth is a dominate trait and likely to become the future.

3) People who spot ufo's and aliens often report the same thing. Small grey creatures with large eyes. Some people who have had alien encounters say they were experimented on or that they were left somewhere after a period of time elapsed and they have no recollection of that time. Whatever encounters you hear of aliens, it usual includes a person or small group or people, and not a mass group. This is why alien encounters are usually so hard to believe. If extraterrestrials came to our planet, it would be likely that they would actually want to communicate with the leaders of big places. After all, they just discovered they aren't alone in the universe and could want to exchange findings with us. Time travlers, however, would want to do things behind the scenes in ways that couldn't hurt the fragile fabric of time too much.

Why would time travelers want to experiment on us? Well, for the same reason we're interesting in cavemen like "Lucy."

Really, I have no idea what aliens are, just putting an idea out there.


you have a point it is logical but all it is a theroy of sort or anything is possible to point on
Rocket-man
rolleyes.gif we could have all presumptions in all what we all can discover with the human mind
king_ivan
QUOTE(rapid7 @ Jan 10 2007, 02:34 AM) [snapback]1493855[/snapback]
You're entitled to your beliefs but this is a lazy example, at least use a film which features a humanoid-ish 6 foot plus praying mantis type alien.
If you can think of any?

I thought it was a prime example.. one is just as unrealistic as the other
666XZ
Lets just say anything is pissible
Star_girl
Wow I had never even thought down these lines before! Thank you for posing a question that makes the old brain work a bit original.gif

If aliens were so advanced to come back to the past from the future surely they would know all the problems it would cause in the timeline and the unpredicability of what their actions done here would cause in the future.

I rather doubt that they would risk this kind of inteferance with the past.
aztek
if you ask any cristian or catholik, what god looks like, they all thel you different things, if you would ask ancient greeks, romans egiptians, they knew perfecty well what gods look like, why? i think all those antient gods, were living creatures with extaorinary abilities, even bible speaks of angels come to earth, to do various things, they look just like us, may be they were humans from diferent time or diferent uneverse, but how come there were no visits from them in our history, or why did they ever disapered, who knows, may be time flows different for them, or our time flow in our uneverse is different from theirs, who knows they might be among us all the while, may be even invisible, may be they were aliens, that ruled mankind, in prehistoric times. we come from uneverse, powers that created uneverse created building block for us, i think alliens, wherever, or whenever they are wouldn't be much diferent form us, they might be bigger, posses unknown powers. but look similar to us, whatever created us, created others.
i knew 2 guys many years ago, who clamed they saw aliens, they look like people but were taller, and had horoble haircut, nobody belived them, but i knew them, those people weren't known as liars, and they changed that day, i could see their face expesions were new, they acted very diferent from what they were before, they loved fishing, but after they went fishing that day, they lost desire to fish for the rest of their life, their prioriteties changed in 1 day, i'd say it was due to something extrodinary, they said when they saw them they froze, couldnt move a musle, they felt like their brain was melting. belive it or not , but someting changed them in an istant for the rest of their life.
Lilly
QUOTE(killer666 @ Jan 10 2007, 10:19 AM) [snapback]1495186[/snapback]
Lets just say anything is pissible


Err..."pissible"? Freudian slip, or just a typo?

yet another reason why spelling sometimes does *count*


king_ivan
QUOTE(Stanislas @ Jan 11 2007, 03:35 PM) [snapback]1496246[/snapback]
The future is like a dream of paradise. We think that these aliens (or at least some of them) are from our remote future because we want to believe in that future. We have a lot of problems around us, a lot of problems in the world, so this dream of the time travellers from our future gives us some kind of hope. And we think we will survive. Well, let it be. Even if this is only a dream it is much better than nothing, isn't it? But our future begins right now and depends on us. And every lived minute brings us nearer those mysterious aliens from our far future. Who knows for sure? There's a chance that when we look at them we look at ourselves. And that's a good idea! It means this world will be saved anyway.

good post
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